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Post by lois on Feb 16, 2011 0:02:09 GMT -6
This story I heard as a child, and never forgot.. Later it was taught in American History class. I still wonder about the people and what happen there. One Mystery which will never be solved. Why would the Indains take every one of their bodies off that Island? No bones nothing, if they had been burnt.. How many boats would it of took. Or did they tie them to weights and sink them into the ocean ;D Of course not.. www.mendhak.com/77-the-mystery-of-roanoke-island.aspxLois
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Post by Morgan Sierra on Feb 16, 2011 8:55:42 GMT -6
There is actually a very intriguing theory that says that during the winter the starving colonists left Roanoke and settled with a group of native Americans who were living on the nearby island of Croatan. Some of the descendants of these indians had pale skin and blue or gray eyes suggesting that there is some truth to the story. Whether or not the colonists went there willingly or were captured and dragged off is unknown. Many native American tribes had a custom of adopting captives and making them members of the tribe in order to replenish the people who were killed in combat, so it is very possible that the colonists ended up there, one way or another. Here is a link that I found with an article about it... www.williamsburgprivatetours.com/The%20Lost%20Colony.htmLost Colonists Found
There is wide spread belief that colonists at Roanoke took refuge with the Croatan Indians during the first winter when Governor John White didn't return.
In 1719, a group of visitors found a tribe of Indians with light skin, gray/blue eyes and light brown hair that spoke Elizabethan English. These Indians told these visitors that their ancestors "talked from a book." Their customs were similar to the early English Roanoke Colony.
This visit brought about a theory that the starving colonists at Roanoke took refuge with the Croatan Indians during the first winter when Governor John White didn't return.
The Croatan, Cheraw, and other Carolina Indians were ancestors of the present-day Lumbees. Many Lumbee Indians to this day declare they are the descendants
In 1998, East Carolina University organized a archaeological investigation to see if any evidence fo the Roanoke colonists could be found on Croatan (Hatteras Island). Yes, the found it. . The excavation team sent to the island uncovered a 10 carat gold 16th century English signet ring, a musket flintlock, and two 16th century copper farthings at the site of the ancient Croatoan capital, 50 miles (80 km) from the old Roanoke colony. These items represent a definite connection between the Roanoke colonists and the Indians on Croatan (Hatteras Island).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2011 11:15:16 GMT -6
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Post by lois on Feb 17, 2011 0:48:09 GMT -6
When was the coins dated. some of this stuff could of been lost later on the island.. I suppose many people walked the grounds of this place. in the near future of the colonist who may of went there.. with the natives..
why did they destroy everything before they left Roanoke? American Indians did burn captives home down.. They should of let the world know what happen to them even if 50 years had passed. Or their children you would think would of.. others had to come to this other island.
anyway thanks for posting. both of you. I had not heard about the investigation that went on there.
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Post by skywalker on Feb 17, 2011 6:54:03 GMT -6
The coins and other artifacts they found were from the same time period as the colonists who lived at Roanoke, so they might have carried them over with them.
As for why they destroyed everything when they left, maybe another hostile indian tribe did it after they left. Or maybe they tried to take a bunch of the stuff with them. There are lots of possibilities.
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Post by graveyardhound on Jul 11, 2011 9:12:04 GMT -6
Coming from N.C. and having been there, to the island, more times than I can recall, the latest, generally accepted "tale" is that the remainder of the English that stayed, were more or less "adopted" by a local tribe of "friendlly" native Americans, not all Native Americans were friendly,btw,and hence you had early reports of light skin Indians, those with blue eyes, not typical Native American traits to tribes along the coast or even several days journey inland. Supposedly, the ghost of Virginia Dare is seen as a white doe, that no one seems to be able to catch or even get a good photo of. BTW, she had beautiful, blue eyes, supposedly.
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Post by skywalker on Jul 11, 2011 18:26:46 GMT -6
I'm guessing they were probably adopted by the local tribes also. It was very common practice for a tribe (even unfriendly ones) to adopt captives or strangers. Adoption and initiation helped to replace all of the tribe members who were killed in combat.
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Post by skywalker on May 13, 2012 21:43:29 GMT -6
Ooooohh!! That is interesting. Those marks had to have been put on the map for a reason so maybe there really is something there. The question is why did they cover them up with patches? And why doesn't the history books say anything about what really happened to the colonists. They had to have gone somewhere. If the dude in charge had to leave for three years there is no telling what happened while he was away. Three years is a pretty long time. Of course it is only speculation that the markings even apply to the lost colony though. It's possible they may have been added at a later time for some reason. I guess nobody will know for sure until archaeologists can find the site and start digging...if that is even possible. It may be under a parking garage for all anybody knows. It's still interesting though. Good find, Jc.
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Post by DEADnGONE on Oct 25, 2012 17:54:48 GMT -6
Adoption by a friendly tribe make sthe most sense. Also being frrom N.C. and having been there more than just once or twice, I don't buy Sspanish troops comming up from Florida and wiping out the fort and killing al they did not need for various things, I don't buy the members taken hostages by Native American tribes and later killed, no, they were not kidnapped by aliens, either. The native Americans in the area and further inland still will be noted as ssome with lighter skin than others in their tribe or even family, blue or gray eyes are not typical, but when first noticed, back then, the inbreeding that would take place alter, had not started. So where did the DNA ccome from to produce the 'odd' physical apperances. guess we'll never know but it's darn sure interesting to speculate about.
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Post by bewildered on May 17, 2013 18:12:30 GMT -6
Very fascinating information, @all. I agree with your thoughts on this, sky. Numerous native tribes were known to "assimilate" outsiders, either singly or in larger numbers. Sometimes this was on a "friendly" basis, and other times it was not so friendly. The stance of Native American tribes ran the gamut from friendly and peaceful, to friendly but suspicious, reclusive and aloof, hostile but reclusive, to aggressive and very unfriendly.
The "average" Native tribe at that time was probably "aloof and somewhat suspicious" as it pertained to outsiders. I have no doubt that the tribe absorbed the settlers in order to add to their own numbers. I suspect it wasn't altruistic at all.
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