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Post by paulette on Sept 14, 2014 12:31:28 GMT -6
A question came to me and I'm not sure anyone else has done work to answer it. I know there are a lot of vague theories about people who say they've have encounters of the 3rd kind (made by people who are not experienced and are ready to blow off anyone who says they are.) That we are attention seeking, overly imaginative, crazy...
Here are some questions that come to my mind. I would love to see a dialogue about this?
What mood would you say you were in immediately prior to your experience? sleeping intent on whatever you were doing? (absorbed and unemotional) drunk or stoned? sad mad glad feeling sexual lonely happy asleep worried .....................etc etc etc.
Looking back several weeks or more prior to the experience, what was you prevailing mood? See above and add your own. If sleeping, mention whether you had more nightmares prior to the event.
Immediately after your experience (even if at the time you didn't realize you had HAD an experience) what was your mood?
What was it after you had time (say 2 or 3 weeks) to process what happened?
If you no longer have contact experiences, do you think your overall mood has changed - not as anxious, not as depressed, not as whatever.
If you had more than more experience - was your feeling state BEFORE contact different at different times???
I am not going to judge or analyse any of us. I am curious though. Are you?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 15:30:16 GMT -6
As far as my memory goes of my encounter when I was eight years old I didn't feel anything out of the ordinary... Maybe a little excited because I had the whole couch to myself because my sister wasn't feeling well enough to watch tv with us. I just passed out and woke up and they were there in the living room... Shrug.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 16:17:52 GMT -6
Passed out, as in drunk at 8 yrs. old? LOL. Please laugh, Lor .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 16:34:18 GMT -6
A question came to me and I'm not sure anyone else has done work to answer it. I know there are a lot of vague theories about people who say they've have encounters of the 3rd kind (made by people who are not experienced and are ready to blow off anyone who says they are.) That we are attention seeking, overly imaginative, crazy... As you know, I pondered this exact question in the opening lines of my personal thread (but not to the extent that you are presenting ). My next question is, where are we keeping all the mentally ill people these days? Are most of them living with a semi-cure (medications, etc.) , functioning on a daily basis, and have a therapist to guide them? Black Dog hinted at care he had seen and given over the years in the mental health care field. Are we privy to that information otherwise (retired Dr. filling us in)?
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Post by paulette on Sept 14, 2014 17:33:08 GMT -6
I'll answer my own questions too.
I have scattered encounters, some redefined as such after a long passage of time. So I think I had at least one encounter as a very young child and tried to hide when alone in the fields beside my house. (I recovered a fragment spontaneously while having a relaxation light hypnotic session and more came out (with the same hypnotist) later. But as a child - I loved being outside and was used to being alone. I always (since forever) liked connecting with nature. So I would boil that down to fearless. As for my surrounding life emotions - my family had secrets (alcoholism) and we not the happy family we may have appeared to be. So I was a wary child and lonely as well as lone. Since I didn't define my experiences as a child as an encounter and possible reaction to it I can only say that I was extremely claustrophobic and was very uncomfortable riding in an elevator until I took things into my own therapy and went caving. Caving made elevators safe and spacious!
The night that the UFO came down near the farmhouse I was 19 going on twenty and my first summer away from home. I was doing summer sessions at University and I was very alone and lone and often lonely. Some would call me depressed I suppose. I had depressed moods but more anything I was grieving - I had given up on having a "home" that I could return to and in losing that I lost the island I grew up on, the ocean, surfing, all my old friends and was recovering from a first love experience in which it was made clear me at the end that I had not been important to the person I gave my heart to. It seemed to be missing for a long time. I was attempting to face down my demons and dancing in the night alone and invoking a visitation was part of that. I was euphoric and fearless and probably had a very loud mind as I was under the influence of a psychedelic. Afterwards I was shocked. That's the only way I can put it. My friends NEVER SAID nothing happened but in a way I felt that they wished nothing had happened and that it was my fault that it did. I felt that way too. I was silent about it for a long time. I might hang out with someone, sleep with them, travel with them and never mention this event. It was far more of a vulnerabilty that taking my clothes off! I made it through University but in a profound way I was lost. The NORMAL world seemed wrong and even ridiculous to me. It was like I knew something and that was that there was a hell of a lot more going on that what 99% of the people around me thought. I also assumed I wouldn't grow up and have a happy family and a white picket fence and a two car garage. And I never did have those things!
So I feel like I was affected after and certainly for a long time I felt that I had caused a situation which made things difficult for my friends. I actually got validation that someone else saw a UFO in the same area and although I can't say it was the same night, it was the same summer anyway. I heard this second-hand and never did manage to talk to that person. I don't think I even tried to. The stories fit though.
Even though my children had experiences that would suggest that they are contactees, I never felt that I was the focus of anything. Except in dreams. As as I have written before, the feeling in the dreams is a feeling of being touched somehow and then anxious and hoping that they will "miss me" and then watching a star come down and drift over the house I am in - and going outside with a feeling of yearning and also fear and also inevitability. And that's still a stronger feeling than most other events kindle in me. But in those dreams, I am not old.
So I might be able to say I was in a vulnerable lonely situation in my mind prior to contact.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 20:06:08 GMT -6
First when I was 5 or 6 (can't tie down which)..I was terrified..crying..in turmoil that my parents were splitting up. Lots of time crying and begging God not to allow this to happen. Angry when he didn't prevent it.
Second time..in general afraid of my father...but on that day..happy and excited riding with my friend..then adrenalin rush when we found the note in the shack..and then terrified to be chased by men in black suits..FBI I am positive because that was referred in the note. All strong emotions and I broadcast well.
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Post by skywalker on Sept 14, 2014 22:27:46 GMT -6
I was sleeping when I had my first experience. Just lying there minding my own business and all of a sudden...ZAP! It scared the crap out of me at first because I knew it was happening but my mind was telling me there was no way it could possibly be happening. My best friend had the same experience so that confirmed it even though I still remained a skeptic for the next twenty years or so.
My feelings in the weeks before it happened weren't bad. I was playing football at Texas Tech that year and was pretty busy doing that. I was happy with what was going on though.
After the experience I started having the nightmares about the sharks...20 of them in the first month after and 15 the next month. I counted them because it was extremely unusual for me to have nightmares. I hardly ever had them before and never about sharks. That's what they were all about afterwards.
My emotional state gradually deteriorated after that. I had another possible experience a couple of weeks later. Don't know for sure if it was. The same goes for any other possible experiences I may have had since then. I've had a lot of weird stuff happen...much of it unexplainable from a conventional point of view...but if it is UFO/alien related they are doing a better job of covering it up. Either that or it just doesn't traumatize me as much as it did that first time.
My emotional state now many years later is much better than it used to be. I think this forum and the others we have been on has played a very big part in that. Just being able to talk about these things really helps. I just kind of accept that it happened and don't worry about it now. I can't do anything to change it. I just try to understand it.
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Post by paulette on Sept 15, 2014 11:05:13 GMT -6
Skywalker - I don't know if I expected to get "data" but I so appreciate your last remark - "My emotional state now many years later is much better than it used to be. I think this forum and the others we have been on has played a very big part in that. Just being able to talk about these things really helps. I just kind of accept that it happened and don't worry about it now. I can't do anything to change it. I just try to understand it."
I think (I know I have) many of us have benefitted from telling our stories to an audience that is willing to hear them respectfully.
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Post by sunbow on Sept 16, 2014 18:32:10 GMT -6
I highly suspect childhood visitations. I suspect my Grandmother on my dad's side also had experiences. The one that got me: I was in my early 20s and had just broken up with my girlfriend who I lived with for probably a year. I was going to be alone in the wilderness and wanted to have a vision or figure out what my life was to be about. The friend who drove me up there and was there that night sent me his description of what happened, a little different than mine, but close. No doubt about ET telepathic craft at tree top level and missing time as the key event. I guess similar to you Paulette, I was in a very extreme emotional state.
Afterward, I lost something. All the strong emotions seemed dissipated. About a month or two later the dreams started, crystal clear. We went to the same mountains six months later and it was waiting for us. Over three years we had several more encounters. At one point a friend brought his 10 and 11 year old children who also witnessed the lights dancing in the sky.
Eventually all our lives fell apart and we drifted apart, no bad feelings, just doing whatever to survive in Babylon. Post abduction stress syndrome perhaps. I have had a few sightings since, but none in a long while. Not sure why. My wife is very fearful of these beings, because they don't come during the day and meet us on normal grounds, so I am sure she prays protective barriers. Also I am not sure if I am as intense, which I believe is what broke the amnesia which they induced.
Perhaps we are all abducted multiple times during our lives and few ever remember anything. I have seen a luminous object dance in the sky with several friends. One very smart friend whom I have known for a long time was absolutely convinced it could not be anything conventional. The next day he claimed it was a plane (even though it turned corners) and had written it off in his mind. Another friend was drinking and remembered nothing, though at the time was exclaiming how amazing it was. Our minds are designed to delete the unknown in many ways, perhaps as a survival strategy.
I must also add, prior to the breakthrough event, my sense of religion was more traditional. I studied them all, but interpreted them more literally. Afterward, the understanding of being surrounded by a vast and populous galaxy changed everything. When I read Daniel talk about 'one like a son of man' after a thundering tower lands, well IMO that would be an ET, instead of just a mystical spirit being. Moses following a glowing hovering cloud around and offering up flour oil and lamb chops, IMO ET. Not saying mystical spirit beings don't exist. We are each very deep mysteries. Also we are at evolution's cutting edge and may be superior to some or many ET in some ways, but not technologically for those that visit.
The universe is so vast and has been for so long that it is absolutely mind blowing!!! Once you get that, there is no going back.
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