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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2011 9:49:59 GMT -6
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Post by sansseed on Mar 17, 2011 10:12:42 GMT -6
There are many mysteries in this world, but if we take a moment to observe things become less mysterious. I have never heard of this guy, but I think he is on to something. He is just simply observing trends before, during, and after a quake. Interesting article. Thanks!
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Post by skywalker on Mar 17, 2011 11:05:41 GMT -6
Scientists have been predicting a large earthquake in the northwest for a long time. There was a huge quake 300 years ago that caused the entire Portland area to drop by approximately three feet, and a 600 mile long piece of the west coast to slip by an average of 22 yards. That was a HUGE quake and it caused many coastal forests to be totally flooded by sea water. These quakes occur approximately every 300 to 500 years so they are due for a big one pretty soon. Here is what Wikipedia had to say about it: The geological record reveals that "great earthquakes" (those with moment magnitude 8 or higher) occur in the Cascadia subduction zone about every 500 years on average, often accompanied by tsunamis. There is evidence of at least 13 events at intervals from about 300 to 900 years with an average of 590 years. Previous earthquakes are estimated to have occurred in 1310 AD, 810 AD, 400 AD, 170 BC and 600 BC.
As seen in the 1700 quake and the 2004 Indian Ocean Earthquake, subduction zone earthquakes can cause large tsunamis, and many coastal areas in the region have prepared tsunami evacuation plans in anticipation of a possible future Cascadia earthquake. However, the major nearby cities, notably Seattle, Portland, Vancouver, Victoria, and Tacoma, which are located on inland waterways rather than on the coast, would be sheltered from the full brunt of a tsunami. These cities do have many vulnerable structures, especially bridges and unreinforced brick buildings; consequently, most of the damage to the cities would probably be from the earthquake itself. One expert asserts that buildings in Seattle are vastly inadequate even to withstand an earthquake of the size of San Francisco 1906, much less the much greater one that may well occur.
Recent findings conclude that the Cascadia Subduction zone is more complex and volatile than previously believed. Geologists predict a 37 percent chance of a M8.2+ event in the next 50 years, and a 10 to 15 percent chance that the entire Cascadia Subduction will rupture with a M9+ event within the same time frame.[6] Geologists have also determined the Pacific Northwest is not prepared for such a colossal quake. The tsunami produced could reach heights of 80 to 100 feet (24 to 30 m).en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1700_Cascadia_earthquake
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2011 11:31:20 GMT -6
I agree with him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2011 12:46:44 GMT -6
Meh. We'll find out. ~shrug~
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2011 13:08:31 GMT -6
Laughing..you can shrug..I LIVE in California..about 30 minutes from San Onofre nuclear power plant which has not been upgraded in awhile.
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Post by lois on Mar 17, 2011 13:19:05 GMT -6
Jo .. we have one here where I live also.. Don't know if it has been upgraded either.. It was a nice place to fish, till they sit it right on top of this area. Many still fish there and eat it also.. My brother still goes there, it is only two miles from him..
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Post by lois on Mar 17, 2011 13:25:24 GMT -6
Yes , funjay use to tell me about the quake in the northwest. She asked me on facebook when I was looking for a small Island with tail on it, before the Haiti quake.. she check and did not see anything like what I described to her. We never found the spot. We looked for weeks on maps.. I could not believe it when I seen Haiti on the map after the quake. How we missed it..I will never know.. the island off Australia looked somewhat like it, so I told Aaron, be on the watch.. lol .. the tail is at the wrong end there so I was not so sure..
She tells they are over due for that one Sky... they say Vancouver is right in the middle of it..
Lois
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2011 15:07:38 GMT -6
Laughing..you can shrug..I LIVE in California..about 30 minutes from San Onofre nuclear power plant which has not been upgraded in awhile. I live on the ring of fire too Jo... The Pacific Northwest. It might hit here too... ~shrug~ I've been through big quakes before... but the nuclear power plant does seem to complicate the matter in your particular location. ~hugs~ We tend to have more frequent and violent seismic activity here than you do down there... with all the volcanoes and stuff... My advise to everyone living in the ring of fire is to be prepared for the worst... but expect the best. No sense in worrying about something that may never happen. Just stock up on canned goods, some gallon jug water and dry beans. I always try to keep such things in the house... just in case... and remember... the front door frame is the sturdiest part of any structure. Other door frames are sturdy too. ~nods~ I'm more worried about being attacked and stabbed by a drug-addict in the liquor store during the night shift than an earthquake personally...
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Post by Steve on Mar 17, 2011 18:38:15 GMT -6
Another prediction? Not again! These always pop up around the anniversary of the 1906 San Francisco quake. What can nature do that the idiots in the California state legislature have not done already with their 26 billion (with a 'b') state deficient? I welcome an earthquake! Maybe then we can get the roads fixed now at least around here.
Predictions... someone's fifteen minutes of fame in the real world always translates on the Internet to about... 15 seconds.
I say "bring it on!"
Steve
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2011 18:57:14 GMT -6
I'm not so sure I see fixing the roads at the expense of lives an equable trade off. Color me silly.
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Post by Steve on Mar 17, 2011 20:02:40 GMT -6
Your not silly Jo, but California is.
Steve
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Post by paulette on Mar 17, 2011 20:14:30 GMT -6
I say "bring it on!" - Steve
I'm guessing you don't live on the Pacific coast.
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Post by lois on Mar 17, 2011 21:14:01 GMT -6
Paulette .. but he does.. he should know more than anyone about California. oops
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Post by lois on Mar 17, 2011 21:15:01 GMT -6
Steve you have not left California have you ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2011 0:27:11 GMT -6
Well he knows about our notorious roads, so he must travel them Northern Cal though..I think. You'd think they would be perfect as much as Cal Trans works on them. California's a mess..even without quakes.
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Post by skywalker on Mar 18, 2011 21:05:26 GMT -6
I agree that California is a mess. Beautiful country but stooopid politicians. It would take more than an earthquake to fix those types of problems.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2011 21:23:21 GMT -6
Well heck this is what you get when the Arnold..ator is your guvanator *sigh*
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Post by lois on Mar 18, 2011 21:28:37 GMT -6
Jo.. auntym posted one heck of a storm out in the pacific today.. but it is headed toward Lorelei sad to say.. Wonder if she has seen it. They had no imformation on the wind, which I thought to be very strange..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2011 3:11:04 GMT -6
Jo.. auntym posted one heck of a storm out in the pacific today.. but it is headed toward Lorelei sad to say.. Wonder if she has seen it. They had no imformation on the wind, which I thought to be very strange.. I haven't heard anything about it. I went to the weather channel website and they have a high wind warning out for the penninsula and the Aleutian Islands... far far away from here. It seems to be just the coastal areas in that area Lois. I'm 300 miles inland on all sides... Alaska is a pretty big place. ~shrug~ I think I'll be OK.
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Post by skywalker on Mar 19, 2011 7:43:04 GMT -6
Did anybody listen to Coast to Coast last night? I think this Jim Berkland dude might have been one of the guests on it but I am not sure because I came in halfway through the conversation and I never heard the dude's name. He was talking about his prediction of the World Series quake and he was saying something about how animals in the area were acting really, really weird just before it happened. Dogs were biting people, pets were running away, some Panda bit somebody at the zoo. Animals seem to be able to sense these disasters long before people do. I remember when that tsunami hit Thailand and Indonesia a while back it killed tens of thousands of people but not a single elephant was affected by it because they had all fled inland before the wave got there. Animals seem to be smarter than people when it comes to natural disasters, maybe because they pay more attention to their feelings than to their intelligence. If you see the animals suddenly start going wacko watch out!
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Post by sansseed on Mar 19, 2011 9:07:16 GMT -6
I listened to C to C last night, but I only heard the ghost guy. I'll go back and see if I can't find a podcast of the section of last night's show.
Animals are much more sensitive than us. I've said it before, and I will say it again, I look to my dog whenever I feel something might be up. If she is restless and alert, I know to keep my awareness up. If she is happily napping, then I know there is no reason for alarm.
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Post by skywalker on Mar 19, 2011 9:29:00 GMT -6
Well heck this is what you get when the Arnold..ator is your guvanator *sigh* I was just curious to know if you California peoples think Arnold is as bad as the former guv, "Gray-out" Davis? Maybe the political system is so bad out there that it doesn't matter who is in charge...it is still going to be screwed up. It might take a big quake to shake things up a little. Maybe all of the politicians will get scared and leave.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2011 10:03:13 GMT -6
Jim Berkland was supposed to be appearing on coast to coast..he's trying to spread his warning for a big quake between now and next month. We're expecting rain tomorrow ..slight chance of it today. Tonight is the full moon..should be amazing tides and other stuff according to some. If..Californina splits and I end up on an island I'll invite y'all for a barbie
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Post by Steve on Mar 19, 2011 12:20:39 GMT -6
This is so silly. So all this is based on the assumption our relatively large moon will be 2% closer than usual to Earth? The moon orbits around all of the earth, not just California (though some in California may think so ). Maybe what unscientifically speculated effects on Earth's many thousands Earth's earthquake faults has already occurred sadly in Japan? Has anyone bothered to check for historical correlation to previous lunar events? Has anyone also considered such speculative effects by the moon might also relieve such stresses? Of all the fault lines everywhere we know of and yet to know...why just California's? If your local weather is favorable, enjoy the moon for what it is. Marvel that humans have visited there in your lifetime - unless your one of those doubters and believe in that junk too. We are all errked because someones ego who failed science in school are making irresponsible predictions - writing checks their bodies again can't cash. Catch up well instead on that lost hour of sleep in restful peace. No howling at the moon tonight please... need my ZZZZ's too. ;D Love to meet everyone, what should I bring to the 'barbie' Jo? Steve
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Post by swamprat on Mar 19, 2011 12:27:45 GMT -6
Jim Berkland was on the Joiner Report Thursday night. The archives should be up soon.
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Post by Steve on Mar 19, 2011 12:52:28 GMT -6
Joiner? Her and her mentor LMH are the 'Martha Stewart's' of ufology. I'll definitely pass then!
Steve
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Post by swamprat on Mar 19, 2011 13:20:57 GMT -6
'Prophet of doom' calls for better U.S. quake preparation By Thom Patterson, CNN March 15, 2011 7:03 p.m. EDT (CNN) -- Earthquake scientist James Roddey is known up and down the Oregon coast as the "prophet of doom" -- a nickname that seems even more ominous after the disaster in Japan. As an earth science officer for the state, Roddey educates communities on how to prepare and survive the earthquake and tsunami that he predicts is virtually inevitable. "They want to know more. They want to know what they can do," said Roddey, who spoke to CNN on Monday shortly before his scheduled appearance at an Oregon school near Gold Beach. He's the bearer of bad news. Very bad news: there's a one-in-three chance that a major quake will strike the region by 2061, according to Oregon State University scientists. The risk lies along a fault line that extends near Newport, Oregon, to Northern California. Despite those odds, many Oregon coast residents are nonchalant about the threat of a catastrophe on the scale of the temblor that struck Japan last week. "A lot of people don't even realize that we get earthquakes in Oregon," Roddey explained. "This used to be the place where Californians moved to get away from earthquakes." As Japan reels from what its prime minister called its "toughest crisis" since World War II, emergency preparedness officials in the United States and around the world are paying close attention. Friday's 9.0-magnitude quake was the strongest in recorded history to hit Japan, according to U.S. Geological Survey. "What you are seeing in Japan today is what you will also see in our future," said Oregon State University geologist Robert Yeats. "Except they're better prepared than we are." Disaster preparations have been permanently imprinted on Japan's collective memory since the terrible Kanto earthquake in 1923 killed more than 140,000 people. The breathtaking damage from this most recent quake speaks to how bad the toll could have been -- if not for preparation. "On a scale of one to 10, with 10 being the most prepared and zero being the worst-prepared ever, you can put Haiti at zero, you can put Japan at eight and you can put the U.S. at five," said Erwann Michel-Kerjan, managing director of the Risk Management and Decision Processes Center at the Wharton School. A nation's mindset surrounding disaster preparedness is directly linked to disaster frequency, say experts. But even in California, where so many quakes have occurred, less than 10% of residents have earthquake insurance, Michel-Kerjan said. Read more: www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/15/disaster.preps/index.html?iref=hpbua
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Post by auntym on Mar 19, 2011 14:04:20 GMT -6
I listened to C to C last night, but I only heard the ghost guy. I'll go back and see if I can't find a podcast of the section of last night's show. sometimes they show up on you-tube.... i copy & pasted a lot of old C2C shows from there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2011 15:02:26 GMT -6
Berkland has left himself a ten day window (between today and the 29th) basing his 'prediction' on seismic activity, animal, bird and fish behavior as well as forces pulling on the earth (moon and planets on each side of the earth). Others are 'predicting' based..on 'psychic' impressions. There is definitely a lot of 'pressure' right now..and no I don't think it's just sinus' making folks edgy (including me).
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