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Post by lois on Mar 23, 2011 11:25:30 GMT -6
This is old news, but thought I would post it here on the forum. This filmed has not been discussed since Mufon pro board. I for one believe it may be for real. Has it ever been proven a fake?
Lois
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Post by lois on Mar 23, 2011 11:28:13 GMT -6
The little bouncing blue light, has always drove me crazy, what was it for?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2011 14:06:55 GMT -6
...wow...
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Post by auntym on Mar 23, 2011 15:04:33 GMT -6
This is old news, but thought I would post it here on the forum. This filmed has not been discussed since Mufon pro board. I for one believe it may be for real. Has it ever been proven a fake? Lois
i always believed this was real.... and it freaks me out....
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Post by lois on Mar 23, 2011 16:31:47 GMT -6
I think I got my answer here. He talked about them watching the aliens heartbeat. Is this the blue light. I have never seen this taped before..
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Post by lois on Mar 23, 2011 16:39:04 GMT -6
I have watch this for 10 years pausing each frame, and you can see the aliens eyes under the black lens. Some time I will do it and take a picture of it. It is when his head is up. It looks like cat eyes with the vertical black pupil.
Sort of scary to see, believe me..
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Post by skywalker on Mar 23, 2011 18:40:52 GMT -6
Looks fake to me. Everything looks fake to me. I think I have been brainwashed by Cap'n Flash...
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Post by heidihybrid on Mar 23, 2011 18:46:35 GMT -6
Nah it's fake, don't worry Plus, if it was real, the government would have arrested the person who uploaded the video, like how it happened to that man from Russia who captured on camera a trailer escorting 2 UFO's and dozen of cops around the trailer or something like that.
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Post by lois on Mar 23, 2011 20:15:34 GMT -6
You will not change my mind about his one Yet.... This was not released to U- tube in the beginning, It was on a TV special first. The who stole the tape from area 51 has never been found, he was not the one who released it. I have him on one of my vhs tapes.
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Post by lois on Mar 23, 2011 20:25:37 GMT -6
Auntym.. never leave me on this forum alone.. I would not have anyone who sees eye to eye with me.. I could make a list.. Of all we agree on, but it is too long.. I think we see into things more.. We don't say too good to be true for one thing. And if it does not look right or normal we never say it is not.. because of it. No one knows what to expect to find in the ufo phenomena. Im about 70 real 30 fake..
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Post by auntym on Mar 23, 2011 20:47:40 GMT -6
Auntym.. never leave me on this forum alone.. I would not have anyone who sees eye to eye with me.. I could make a list.. ;D ...i promise i never will...unless i'm kidnapped & never returned.. ;D
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Post by Steve on Mar 23, 2011 23:40:20 GMT -6
Seen this a number of times already. I do not in the least mind discussing it again. It is to me the most impressive alien video footage yet. I won't state it is 'real', just it's very impressive. It makes me feel sad for the being too. But knowing so little, should I feel sad, or relieved? I would think if this being was video recorded in 1989, it's friends would be able to pluck him out of that situation easily without much difficulty if what abilities these beings possess described by experiencers are true. If one suspends disbelief and speculates, then did the entity choose to remain? Or if a crash survivor, are these beings more or less helpless without their technology? If the roles were reversed, we might feel just as helpless. How do experiencers respond to seeing this video? We know about Whitley Strieber's reaction. If true, I feel ashamed for us too. The attending humans seem to know enough already it seems in the way they all are 'handling' this creature. I hate even using the term creature. And who really are the creatures - the ones in front or behind the glass? This is not the imagined image of 'contact' I really had in mind perhaps. Perhaps not what many hoped to see too? Are our expectations absurdly naive? More like Planet of the Apes. It seems to be a video on a level all to itself. So having a comparison to gage it's reality seems to me meaningless. It seems that to prove it's reality, one would have had to have been present when the video was taken it seems to vouch for it's authenticity or not. Did 'Victor' ever get monetarily compensated for making this video public since then? It seems to be all over you-tube now, so has any issue about money evaporated? It is not really all that difficult to stage if it was a hoax. What impresses me is it just describes literally what it is, no more or less. There does not seem to be any kind of exaggerated depiction in an effort to convince, it just is. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2011 1:06:49 GMT -6
From my own experience Lois..if one of those things doesn't want to be in such a position..it will not be. I don't say they possess 'powers'..that I didn't see but they are not fragile or weak. Even to 'capture' one sick and dying..I don't feel that would be allowed unless it suited some purpose. We know now that the Roswell 'autopsy' video was faked..and it was in ways similar to this. If real..I don't think you'd find it in so many places online. Like so many other 'artifacts' it would be vaulted somewhere for further 'professional' study. Because you can see something behind the eyes makes it really suspicious to me..the ones I saw were nothing like that at all in the eye. I don't want to be a 'buzz kill' here..maybe it's real as can be.. these are just my thoughts on it
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2011 1:57:21 GMT -6
I get no emotional response from seeing it. ~shrug~
I don't think it's real either... mostly for the reasons Jo mentioned... but I can't be certain that it's a fake either. Let's just say that I am very skeptical of this one...
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Post by Steve on Mar 24, 2011 7:23:08 GMT -6
Jo brings up a good point, all have been fakes in the past, why not this one too? Not writing this to be a debunker, hardly, just somberly, we know we all have been jerked around before. Extraordinary evidence needs extraordinary proof.
Steve
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Post by skywalker on Mar 24, 2011 8:06:31 GMT -6
If we truly believe that alien beings are coming to this planet then there is a possibility it could be real. I'm just going by the impression that I get from watching it...it just doesn't look right to me. There have been so many fake photos and videos put out over the years that anytime I see one I automatically think it's a hoax. Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. It doesn't look like what I remember from my own experiences but my "memories" could be just as manufactured as any video.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2011 10:31:45 GMT -6
I think we're all pretty much on the same page with this one..we think it's fake but the possibility exists that it's real and we're wrong One thing I've been remembering Lois..and another reason I figured they might be lab created things. They were cocky. That's not the right word but since I can't think of a better one..it'll do. They wouldn't ever be humble or show intimidation. The one in that video looks pitiful...hopeless. They just aren't like that..like it is not an emotion they posses. I think that one reason they don't show compassion during abductions is because they don't comprehend it themselves and what you can't experience..you can't provide to someone else. The implications there are not so great. If they are created creatures doing the work for another race..it brings up more issues rather than less. Do they manufacture the 'grey's' because they are not physically capable? Or because they don't want to dirty their hands playing with the monkeys? Always more questions rather than less. Bah Humbug LOL
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Post by lois on Mar 24, 2011 13:32:01 GMT -6
Steve . Do you mean this has never be proven either way?
Jo.. When I seen this I thought how pitiful and helpless also. Could we really be recreating a gray? I guess we would have to have a body of a gray then. I thought I had pondered on everything over the years. But never ever thought we would do such things. No! not us!!!
Lois
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Post by lois on Mar 24, 2011 13:45:42 GMT -6
Grays may not all think alike. There could be good grays and bad grays like the human race. It does not sound like the ones who crashed in a flying saucer in Roswell was evil.. if it did happen.
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Post by auntym on Mar 24, 2011 14:23:29 GMT -6
i look at this video and all i see is an alien in total distress....the eyes say so much to me.....a puppet would not be able to show this kind of emotional distress.... i find this video highly disturbing.... i believe its real....
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Post by sansseed on Mar 24, 2011 15:54:09 GMT -6
It's peeked my interest...
I wonder, because we have seen so many hoaxes, that we have been conditioned to assume a hoax. Would we know the real thing when we see it? I'm just wondering...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2011 17:17:43 GMT -6
We have a tendency (as mostly good people) to try and create in our own image. We have a very full set of emotional capabilities..compassion, love, anger etc..we can't make the mistake of assuming other races do. To us a toothy grin is an overture of friendship or good grace..to them..it could be an insult or an aggressive baring of fangs. We're geared to exist among humans like ourselves (although some come with mental or anti social problems) still..human. We know right from wrong..good from evil and have the free will to be good or bad. If we assume everything in the universe follows this rule..not only is it egotistical..it's not realistic. I imagine that black widows enjoy each others company just fine until she eats him. If they were here to make nice nice...they would have long since followed through. There really is too much visual testimony to not think someone is cruising our skies. They really are here..they really exist and they are not like us...we shouldn't try to turn them into us. IMO
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Post by skywalker on Mar 24, 2011 18:24:36 GMT -6
It's peeked my interest... I wonder, because we have seen so many hoaxes, that we have been conditioned to assume a hoax. Would we know the real thing when we see it? I'm just wondering... That's exactly the way I am feeling, Sanseed. Anytime I see any video I automatically assume it is a hoax just because I've seen so many of them. But maybe that is why we have seen so many of them. Maybe all of the hoaxes that are being perpetrated are part of a government disinformation scheme to make people think they are all nothing but hoaxes so nobody will take the UFO/alien abduction theory seriously.
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Post by lois on Mar 24, 2011 18:26:13 GMT -6
I will try and find the VHS tape of this. I have about 60- 6hour tapes of ufos from 23 years of taping. It may take some time. Play it on my TV .. in slow motion. lol I have done this many times. One time I played the Canada one with the flares below it 7 hours . My husband thought I was crazy. That ufo is a circle with two wedges one on each side. And the metal is totally red. It is before any lights come on the underneath, as it comes over the trees. You know the one that Guardian took. I will never catch it as it is only about 1 tenth of a second on the film..
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Post by lois on Mar 24, 2011 18:56:01 GMT -6
I told my husband.. you did not see what I saw, I will do anything to jolt my memory back on.. ;D ;D
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Post by sunbow on Mar 25, 2011 18:05:00 GMT -6
This video makes me sad. I agree, the eyes seem too shiny, the head bobs too much to match my memories. The body stays obscured as if it is being manipulated as a hoax. But in final judgment, if this is a hoax, it is done as professional disinformation to make powerful beings seem weak, which would help ake people worry less about their activities.
I wonder if the beings are engineered and telepathic, then perhaps the ones from Roswell and this one could have been created for the job: as a captured being that is telepathically interrogated.
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