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Post by auntym on Apr 1, 2011 14:47:53 GMT -6
www.brooklyneagle.com/categories/category.php?category_id=27&id=42440 Give UFO Witnesses Respect, Says Brooklyn Retireeby Harold Egeln (edit@brooklyneagle.net), published online 04-01-2011 Capp Runs Group and Writes Blog To Support WitnessesBy Harold Egeln Brooklyn Daily Eagle BROOKLYN — UFOs are not April Fools Day-type jokes, claims Brooklyn retiree Joseph Capp, who is taking UFOs and their witnesses seriously by giving them support through monthly meetings arranged by his online UFO Meetup Group and his UFO Media Matters blog. “The UFO Meetup Group is dedicated to the principle of having a non-commercial safe place where UFO witnesses may come to share their feelings and to get help,” said Capp on his meetup site. The group’s purpose, he said, is to benefit close encounter and paranormal “experiencers” who ask for guidance and protect their anonymity. The group meets monthly at a city diner, and people are invited to attend by contacting Capp through the meetup group, which also has made field trips to Pine Bush in Orange County where UFO sightings have made a media sensation for three decades. Capp, a retired computer business consultant, empathizes with witnesses, having his one-time experience back in 1962 that convinced him that something extraordinary was happening, as reported by millions worldwide for decades.
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Post by lois on Apr 1, 2011 16:46:39 GMT -6
Thanks auntym , I live in Brooklyn for awhile when my husband was station there for 6 months. The ship was put into dry dock for repairs. He just heard on the news where his old ship is still in operation.. Wow. They had the captain on the news last night. Now I do not know why. I did not watch it. He only told me . Can you believe that? it is still running.. lol
This may be an interesting place to visit, I mean the link you give us.. thank you
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2011 17:11:58 GMT -6
There are always going to be skeptics and scoffers and debunkers until the day (if it ever comes) when something quits playing around and lands publicly. Eventually...I think everyone will be aware that something does exist whether it's from outer space or something interdimensional. Until then..like any one who has ever reported an encounter (myself included) it's just something we have to put up with and as I've said before..if it had not angled into my life..I'd never have believed it either.
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Post by Steve on Apr 1, 2011 18:39:02 GMT -6
In many UFO cases I have investigated in the field, the witnesses are always first, the information gathered a close second. It sounds like a boastful UFO organization slogan (hearing allot of these lately from one organization to keep up appearances), but it works for the benefit of all in the investigation. They feel relieved someone will listen and take their story seriously at face value. A positive situation is created where the witnesses will open up considerably more as well. This can bring out other information which might on the surface seem inconsequential, but could be telling with clues to an experienced investigator.
To those who have never had a UFO experience, as AuntyM's quote by Franz Werfl states - "For those who believe, No explanation is necessary. For those who do not, no explanation is possible". Usually till one has a UFO - or another high strangeness event - everyone is a skeptic till that moment.
Afterward, their life and their outlook about many things changes. If some people laugh at those to claim to have had such experiences, their attitude changes dramatically when they themselves have a similar experience. Perhaps another analogy perhaps is: everyone hates lawyers, till they need one.
I often would get UFO reports that were 40, even 50 years old. I always ask why now are you reporting this? What took you so long I would ask with a smile? The answer usually is they would be considered a 'kook' long back. They remark attitudes about such things are different now. Unless these old cases contain a potential missing time experience which can still be regressed and retrieved, they are usually chocked up as a 'historical' case. Still a historical search might still correlate their experience with another event in the same time and location, but that is usually about it at that point.
I have interviewed whole families, professional people, a homeless man, a pastor, police officers, military people (even one who was in USAF air intelligence convinced they saw a 'triangle' which was later mis-identified and turned out to be RC model airplanes flying at night with lights on them). Every kind of person for the most part. They are seldom if ever 'kooks'.
Most who are brave enough to report and are willing to be contacted personally and show the location where it all happened...look to the investigator for possible answers. Many times we find them, and often we don't - supplying 'feet on the ground' explanations. The important thing is to always listen, and appreciate they're convictions to come forward. It is not hard to listen, the stories tell.
When scientists scoff about UFO witnesses, often they maybe often right in a conventional explanation for the majority of reports, but consistently they fail to consider the other 15% that remain still unexplained using their own assessments. A scientist - often a debunker or one from the CETI crowd will state on radio or television: "but consider the enormous distances in space involved to travel here!". I facetiously reply "your quite right - using your argument - consider the many many months today it takes still to cross the United States by ox drawn covered wagons".
While we rush kids off to school, drive to work, reporting for jury duty, do grocery shopping, and though it sounds so simple - what most of us fail to comprehend is the enormity of the sky above us. Wide open sky. Open sky that goes on & on forever. And often in the forever span of infinite distance, come also infinite possibilities.
Any fool can have courage. But honor, that's the real reason you either do something or you don't. Hope for courage and try for honor. To these witnesses, with love & respect....we salute you....or as Lacombe tells Roy Neary - "Monsieur Neary, I envy you."
Steve
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Post by paulette on Apr 1, 2011 21:12:17 GMT -6
and what most of us fail to comprehend - is the enormity of the sky above us. Wide open sky, and it goes on & on forever. And often in the forever span of infinite distance, come also infinite possibilities. - Steve
Thank you Steve. There IS a lot of possibilities "out there" - above our back yard, over the familiar lake cabin, over the less driven highway....
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