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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2011 16:13:37 GMT -6
This picture very much reminds me of what I saw in a dream over a year ago. The exceptions are the boney protrusions in the shoulders and hips. The being in my dream didn't have these. It also didn't have such big hands. Otherwise, it is pretty close to what I dreamed. What really got me was the head. The being in my dream didn't have the big bulbous head the others have described, and the eyes were not as large as has been described or drawn. This picture comes much closer to what I dreamed. *shiver* I had a dream about one of these beings too when I was about 19 years old. It was a female... in the dream she was almost the exact same height as me... 6'0. I want to say they didn't have a really huge bulbous head too, it was bigger than it should have been proportional to the body, but not really super-huge... and you're right. Smaller eyes... This image doesn't make me shiver... it makes me feel like I'm looking at a mug shot. I almost want to ask my best friend if she can draw one like it only make it more like what I remember... not sure if she'll go for it. I gave the link to her last night in chat on facebook and she said it freaked her out. She said it looked really creepy. ~shrug~
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Post by sansseed on May 2, 2011 18:37:19 GMT -6
Yes, definitely tall. In my dream the being appeared next to the door in my bathroom. It is a six-panel door, so there are markings on the door to compare height. Based on the top of the head in relation to the door, it was close to 6 foot. Maybe a couple of inches short.
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Post by Steve on May 2, 2011 23:07:46 GMT -6
Thank you Cliff for accepting my phone call. I enjoyed our discussion. You answered some important questions. Particularly about how these entities lift or carry heavy objects - in this case the other person with you during your encounter.
Referring then to the drawing above = the feet then are accurate. The neck should be shorter, and the hands smaller with four appendages - an opposing like thumb, and three long fingers. The eyes slightly larger? No pupils in the eyes, and the eyes highly reflective shiny black. Even reflecting the square lamp shade in one of their (leader) eyes.
No smell, telepathically speaking in a 'firm' voice (leader communication only). No clothing worn.
You gave me a real visual description in my mind about the play & sequence of events.
I am firmly convinced now these beings are not necessarily physically stronger - the two beings lifting a 160 lb. human body without any apparent strain or exhibiting shifting their body weight to lift - no leveraging their body weight. They can apparently focus & manipulate gravity or mass related to specific local objects. It would also explain other abduction encounters of beings and humans lifted up defying gravity.
Amazing how they reassured you your partner was alright by simply and rather matter of fact taking her out of her bed, bringing her 14 or 20 feet down the hall, into the living room, presenting her to show she was fine in her unconscious state, return her to her bedroom with all the ease of carrying a beach ball. Almost comical, certainly astonishing if the scene wasn't so serious. If a device - I wonder if this comes from devices the entities carry with them, or from the UFO we assume nearby remotely?
I do not think they have the physique to lift people as they demonstrate on their own, they are using some kind of telepathically interactive technology remotely to assist them.
Will talk more soon I hope. Thank you.
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Post by auntym on May 2, 2011 23:46:24 GMT -6
touched your story blows me away....the fact that you demanded they leave your house after saying 'in the name of the father, son & holy spirit.' and they said 'what did you say?' and then left.... WOW.... i wasn't aware that would scare them off.... good to know in case i ever need it.... LOL .... i only have memories of pleiadeans or beings that look like us ( that appears to be good memories)... and i've seen little grays 2 ft. tall, a red alien and hooded aliens & balls of lights coming towards me, but i have no idea what kind of encounters the latter were....i just remember the beginnings, never the endings....or maybe it was all the endings.... i wish i knew.... i probably have blocked all the bad ones out...i really don't know.... i believe i've been involved with them most of my life....even to this day... its very weird....i wish i had the answers to all my questions...
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 2:08:13 GMT -6
hi everyone, I agree leia77 about the demon thing,,,,,as for the height of the beings,its possible as a small child that they may have appeared that way to you or as I mentioned before, it may have been the taller grays. as for your friend drawing the pic, I think thats a great idea !!! it may help you recollect lost memories . I may attempt drawing one myself, although im not that good artistically. you however, have talent, and I truly mean that. I saw your pic that you drew on one of your posts,,,,,good job !!! hugs as well !!! the dreams you mentioned,(yours too sansseed) ,they may be more than that. I had one(maybe)that I question as well and may never know for sure.from what ive gathered, these things can be manipulative. steve, thank you for taking time out of your evening to discuss this with me and kelly!!! I hope in some way this has helped . Ive often wondered myself how these skinny arms and legs could lift my x without exerting any effort. thats a good hypothesis !!! the cranium area was large and bulbous,and the eyes were large as well. feel free to call anytime!!! I hope this helps you and others as well in some way !!! auntym,ive seen drawings of the pleiadeans,and they seem to be attractive.ive also seen a couple of videos of quick little gray type beings that looked real to me. from what ive been researching through mufon reports, there have been many sightings of orbs also . they seem to be happening more common with multiple witnesses as well !!! it seems youve had many encounters,and hopefully youll (well all) get the answers were looking for !!! Ive heard in other reports that demanding authority in the name of the FATHER, SON,and the HOLY SPIRIT has worked for others as well, but some they didnt . since these encounters have happened, ive spent alot of time researching other peoples encounters as well,and it seems the more I study, it just seems to lead to more questions. I have the feeling someday well all know the truth !!! if ive missed any questions, feel free to ask !!! cliff
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 2:56:32 GMT -6
Cliff: I don't do drawings. I'm a musician lol. I think you have me confused with someone else. I can't even draw a decent stick figure... lol... seriously... it's really sad... I think it's a great idea too...but I have to convince my friend to do it... that's the hard part. You know how artists are... Steve: I'm glad you did your homework on this. It does seem that they are able to manipulate gravity with their craft, but now apparently they seem to be able to do it as individuals too. That's really interesting... Auntym: Pleadians? You mean the Nordics? Wow. I've heard they're nice aliens. I'm glad you remember good encounters with them.
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Post by auntym on May 3, 2011 9:27:17 GMT -6
Auntym: Pleadians? You mean the Nordics? Wow. I've heard they're nice aliens. I'm glad you remember good encounters with them. the way i understand it....they are one & the same....they are the pleiadeans (where they're from) ....they got the name nordics because of the way they look.... (human, blonde & fair skinned)....also, they're not all blonds....
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Post by Steve on May 3, 2011 19:08:18 GMT -6
We went uselessly over the demon/angel vs. alien thing endlessly even in the old Mufon forum.
Until new information surfaces, I reject at the present time aliens are demons/angels or supernatural.
1. Their appearance just conjures up old pre-science beliefs and misconceptions (maybe prejudices too).
2. To be demons or angels, they would have to be supernatural, not mortal. Then why in countless abductions we constantly read these beings take mortal pre-cautions for their own safety? (restraining understandably terrified humans).
3. They make mistakes. More mortal tendencies. (in their haste accidentally swapping night clothes - one abductee taken in one set of clothes - occasionally returned in another's)
When some pastor or minister tells someone these 'beings' in such accounts then must be demons, ask them how many UFO cases they have ever investigated?
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 19:31:58 GMT -6
Hello again Touched..one of the things I remembered the strongest about my 'experience' was exactly how reflective their eyes were..like a mirror. I'm glad I'm not the only one who mentioned that..I feel a bit less alone ;D thanks
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Post by Steve on May 3, 2011 20:10:15 GMT -6
touched your story blows me away....the fact that you demanded they leave your house after saying 'in the name of the father, son & holy spirit.' and they said 'what did you say?' and then left.... WOW.... i wasn't aware that would scare them off.... good to know in case i ever need it.... LOL .... Perhaps, that could have been one interpretation. Another might be Cliff started to become conscious again, yet still paralyzed. The entities some distance away conversing among themselves (the leader's back turned) turned it's head around looking back over it's shoulder at Cliff 'states "what did you say?". Maybe whatever was controlling Cliff was wearing off, and before he could finish all he wanted to say, they put him under again? When he woke - they were just gone. Up to Cliff really. We may never know quite the intent in each scene - just careful trying not to put more into it than the bare facts. I know Ann Drufflel has written an interesting book about preventing alien abductions - mentioning in her book too about evoking religious beliefs for protection or driving these beings away evoking the Holy Trinity. But what might be misconstrued as driving away evil like spirits could be simply they were late for their next abduction that same night. Who knows! If I take these accounts seriously (I do) , I cannot also help but think there is a bit of comedy in all this too - incredibly such as it all is. Played as a movie scene - a brief comic relief in a frightening moment on screen - the abductee shaking frightened thinking afterward all puffed up - "they're gone now [again] - I guess I showed them!" ;D Steve
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 20:10:49 GMT -6
I agree with you steve about the demon thing . I truly think these things are life forms from somewhere, maybe even our own planet ? Imo theyre from somewhere else wherever that may be. I respect my ex-inlaws opinion though,,,even if I dont agree . jokelly, your not alone, from the experiences ive read here on this forum, it seems were all in this together trying to find answers !!! leia77,,,,ooooooooops !!!!! I saw a drawing of a "thing"somewhere on this forum and thought you drew it, my bad,,,,lol. whoever did,,,good job !!! ill try and search around and see which one I was referring to.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 20:15:37 GMT -6
jokelly, if you dont mind me asking,,,where is your experience posted ? I havent quite had a chance yet to go through the forum and read all the experiences, but hopefully soon ill get there,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 20:35:36 GMT -6
steve, something caught my mind last night after we talked, and im not sure of the significance, but for the first time since this encounter happened, I just thought about it ! remember how I said when the lead gray turned around and asked me "what did you say "?after using the holy trinity I blacked out again. I was still sitting on the RIGHT side of the loveseat . when I came to for the final time and tried to call my exs name repeatedly, I just remembered that I was now seated on the LEFT side of the loveseat which means I was moved again for some reason,,,,,hmmmmmmmm ,,,,, I wonder now what happened when I blacked out the last time,,,,,this seems ,,,,,I dont know .
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Post by Steve on May 3, 2011 22:21:04 GMT -6
steve, something caught my mind last night after we talked, and im not sure of the significance, but for the first time since this encounter happened, I just thought about it ! remember how I said when the lead gray turned around and asked me "what did you say "?after using the holy trinity I blacked out again. I was still sitting on the RIGHT side of the loveseat . when I came to for the final time and tried to call my exs name repeatedly, I just remembered that I was now seated on the LEFT side of the loveseat which means I was moved again for some reason,,,,,hmmmmmmmm ,,,,, I wonder now what happened when I blacked out the last time,,,,,this seems ,,,,,I dont know . I just got off the phone with the hypnotherapist I work with. I was discussing your account with her. She was fascinated. Several things were new to her. How they presented your ex wife before you the way they did, then returning her to her bed. then about the authoritative tone and words told you. "we can do whatever we wish....". This I am not to surprised to hear. The other point was interesting was them seeking 'information', either about you, or as a lead about finding someone else. I had another case were the aliens also were looking for information - about the mineral content & geology of the land were their abduction occur ed. She suspects (as I do) more may have happened there than you perhaps are fully aware of. We are very impressed by the level of detail describing everything. This is wonderful. We suspect your ex-wife was examined - based on the position of the clothing we discussed on her afterward. They may have put you out several times while they may have been examining her. Your instinct to protect may have been kept more under control by them if you were unconscious perhaps at that point we both speculate. It is possible she knows more, but as a coping mechanism, being in denial is the best way for her(and likely wrongly) - they were demons - easiest way her paradigm can handle it. No reflection on her, this is where she is at, and how she best copes. You in contrast seem clear - looking at it, unafraid to see what you see (admittedly you saw a great deal more). And though you may have similar beliefs, you are more objective & matter of fact. My friend thought you might make a good policeman based on your observing skills. Noticing now the shift in your position on your love seat could as you suspect indicate you were moved or handled while unconscious, I suspect that too. As you discuss this more, new memory 'triggers' may likely emerge. Don't force these - sure you won't. But expect some new things may just pop into your head from time to time now. You also did not notice any breathing from these beings. Do you have any impressions these beings could have been bio mechanical perhaps? Steve
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2011 3:53:38 GMT -6
Perhaps, that could have been one interpretation. Another might be Cliff started to become conscious again, yet still paralyzed. The entities some distance away conversing among themselves (the leader's back turned) turned it's head around looking back over it's shoulder at Cliff 'states "what did you say?". Maybe whatever was controlling Cliff was wearing off, and before he could finish all he wanted to say, they put him under again? When he woke - they were just gone. Same thing with me... I was in a panicked state, and the one looked over his shoulder at me, then came over and put me under, and I woke up in bed in another room... I didn't say anything about God or Jesus though... I didn't say anything at all... all that was going through my mind was blind terror, which was escalating. Apparently he was able to recognize that. I guess that was bad. No cognitive thoughts really other than hoping they would go away...
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2011 14:00:04 GMT -6
Only bits and parts of it are here Touched..it was posted in both MUFON and UFOMANIA but I haven't put it here.
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Post by lois on May 5, 2011 22:09:49 GMT -6
Cliff......That is a good sign, they left after saying father son and holy spirit. I believe they knew exactly what that meant. I experience this once myself.. My family was terrized by what we believe had to do with a ufo every night for a week. When I said .......This is the house of the Lord Jesus Christ you cannot enter..... They never came again. I have all my four children who witnessed it. Some poor victims do not have such faith to lean on..
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2011 16:29:23 GMT -6
I dont mean to be dramatic about this,but as I was drawing the pic of this being like steve asked me to do, it became alot more difficult than I thought it was going to be. I dont know how to describe my feelings, but part of me felt a resistance like I wasnt suppose to be drawing it. Another part of my mind went blank when trying to draw some details that I could picture before clearly, and the worst part (and this is especially why im mentioning this) is the nervousness and shaking of the hands that I experienced . steve forwarned me that drawing this would probably trigger more memories and hes right, this has helped in a therapuetic way . More surprising memories of details came as well, and thanks steve, it has helped !!! I mentioned in another post today about a foggy memory that ive had all along and im still uncertain about it . As its hand came up to my face (or in my nose) and applied pressure I heard a high pitch sound which is similar to a dentists tooth cleaner followed by a crunch sound (I recall reading about skywalker hearing this crunch sound also),but the memory is too foggy like I mentioned to be for sure yet its there,,,,hard to explain. these little dudes have overwhelming powers and as more memories spring forward, im starting to realize just how effective the trance that they can put a human in really is .
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2011 16:39:21 GMT -6
Cliff......That is a good sign, they left after saying father son and holy spirit. I believe they knew exactly what that meant. I experience this once myself.. My family was terrized by what we believe had to do with a ufo every night for a week. When I said .......This is the house of the Lord Jesus Christ you cannot enter..... They never came again. I have all my four children who witnessed it. Some poor victims do not have such faith to lean on.. Lois It is a very good sign lois and its the same for me also,,,,,,they havent been back since !!! You know as well as I that there is a power greater than any other , so great that the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain HIM !!! thats the greatest feeling of all knowing that GOD the creator is on our side and that HE is the ultimate power over everything
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2011 16:52:04 GMT -6
Hello again Touched..one of the things I remembered the strongest about my 'experience' was exactly how reflective their eyes were..like a mirror. I'm glad I'm not the only one who mentioned that..I feel a bit less alone ;D thanks very true jokelly about their eyes !!! I distinctively remember seeing the light cover which was on the ceiling reflect off its left eye. The beings eyes is what "captured" me the most . It almost seemed as though its telepathic communication and its paralyzing ability seemed to originate from its eyes ,but I can only speculate on that. It felt like its glossy ,black, obsidian like eyes were peircing straight through me . Its hard to describe. were the eyes in your encounter similar ?
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2011 16:52:39 GMT -6
I dont mean to be dramatic about this,but as I was drawing the pic of this being like steve asked me to do, it became alot more difficult than I thought it was going to be. I dont know how to describe my feelings, but part of me felt a resistance like I wasnt suppose to be drawing it. Another part of my mind went blank when trying to draw some details that I could picture before clearly, and the worst part (and this is especially why im mentioning this) is the nervousness and shaking of the hands that I experienced . steve forwarned me that drawing this would probably trigger more memories and hes right, this has helped in a therapuetic way . More surprising memories of details came as well, and thanks steve, it has helped !!! I mentioned in another post today about a foggy memory that ive had all along and im still uncertain about it . As its hand came up to my face (or in my nose) and applied pressure I heard a high pitch sound which is similar to a dentists tooth cleaner followed by a crunch sound (I recall reading about skywalker hearing this crunch sound also),but the memory is too foggy like I mentioned to be for sure yet its there,,,,hard to explain. these little dudes have overwhelming powers and as more memories spring forward, im starting to realize just how effective the trance that they can put a human in really is . ~hugs~ I would really really love to see the drawings when you finish them Cliff. I get that way too when I try to think back on my encounter... fuzzy. Like, I remember seeing them, but when I try to remember details I can't remember them... I can just look at the drawings others make and say, "No that isn't quite right..." or "That's almost right..." I wish I could draw like you can...
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2011 18:01:18 GMT -6
Cliff:
I could see myself reflected in their eyes..but there wasn't any kind of communication. There was a horrible pressure in my head that I've come to think was a control level..and it lessened after my friend became quiet. Like they had combined efforts and I was getting some kind of second hand whammy. After that..things were very drifty and surreal.
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Post by skywalker on May 17, 2011 20:58:56 GMT -6
touched your story blows me away....the fact that you demanded they leave your house after saying 'in the name of the father, son & holy spirit.' and they said 'what did you say?' and then left.... WOW.... i wasn't aware that would scare them off.... good to know in case i ever need it.... LOL .... Perhaps, that could have been one interpretation. Another might be Cliff started to become conscious again, yet still paralyzed. The entities some distance away conversing among themselves (the leader's back turned) turned it's head around looking back over it's shoulder at Cliff 'states "what did you say?". Maybe whatever was controlling Cliff was wearing off, and before he could finish all he wanted to say, they put him under again? When he woke - they were just gone. That's a possibility. When I was being picked up in the air that first time in 1988 I yelled at myself to wake up and I was instantly awake and everything was back to normal, but that was right at the beginning of it, and judging by some of the things I've remembered since then that is not all that happened. I'm assuming they just erased my memories from that point onward, possibly because I was trying to struggle against them? Maybe they did something to me right then that made me lose consciousness which could explain why it is so hard for me to remember anything. My mind is a total blank after they picked me up in the air.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2011 7:48:30 GMT -6
theres one other thing I need to add right now to this before I forget that ive never mentioned before . when I came to the last time after "they" left, I remember the tv was having static like it wasnt on air. we didnt have cable at this time or satellite, just the standard outside antenna . I feel I need to keep notes of details no matter how relavent they may seem . I remember as I was trying to regain speaking ability and trying to move that the static was annoying and when xxxxx came in and asked "what happened", she went over to the tv and turned it off.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2011 13:31:08 GMT -6
theres one other thing I need to add right now to this before I forget that ive never mentioned before . when I came to the last time after "they" left, I remember the tv was having static like it wasnt on air. we didnt have cable at this time or satellite, just the standard outside antenna . I feel I need to keep notes of details no matter how relavent they may seem . I remember as I was trying to regain speaking ability and trying to move that the static was annoying and when xxxxx came in and asked "what happened", she went over to the tv and turned it off. Maybe they wanted to watch The Simpsons? lol... sorry. I had to say it. ~hugs~
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2011 15:50:07 GMT -6
thats funny leia77,,,lol,,,,I needed a good laugh ! Im not thinking theres much to it,,,, (I hate to speculate) maybe the tv station went off air for the night, not sure. It was just not like me to sleep on the couch, or to fall asleep with the tv on. What made me sleep there in the first place is beyond me, it was out of the norm for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2011 2:11:36 GMT -6
Ive asked myself before just to be open and consider every possibility,"was this just a bad nightmare"? The answer: no way . Ive also considered sleep paralysis which ive never experienced before but read about out of curiousity . Thats not it either. Theres too many details with too many other witnesses seeing the same thing, otherwise id have to question myself(or sanity) further to not be what it is. I guess I just have to accept this at face value and get over it which is difficult to do. Ever since this ordeal happened its been etched in my brain. I wonder now if these other sightings I had with other witnesses had anything to do with this ? Just something im curious about.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2011 10:18:41 GMT -6
Ive asked myself before just to be open and consider every possibility,"was this just a bad nightmare"? The answer: no way . Ive also considered sleep paralysis which ive never experienced before but read about out of curiousity . Thats not it either. Theres too many details with too many other witnesses seeing the same thing, otherwise id have to question myself(or sanity) further to not be what it is. I guess I just have to accept this at face value and get over it which is difficult to do. Ever since this ordeal happened its been etched in my brain. I wonder now if these other sightings I had with other witnesses had anything to do with this ? Just something im curious about. Well Cliff, if they did indeed put an implant in your nose, perhaps they are still tracking you for some reason... possibly "checking-in" on you every now and then... I've had a few sightings too... I've seen weird lights off in the woods several times... I saw a highly reflective silver disc/dome shaped object hovering over the trees in broad daylight which I saw when I was 12 while riding home on the school bus with the sun glinting off of it... a silent black triangle gliding over the highway back in February of this year... There must be a reason... ~nods~ Right? It must be connected somehow...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2011 17:15:31 GMT -6
I made another error, I did have sleep paralysis one time when I was in my mid twenties. It wasnt pleasant either and I hope it never happens again. I remember laying on the bed flat on my back and wasnt able to move while struggling to wake up . I think I do have an implant lorelei, but I just dont know. Not too long ago I said the word implant to my fiance and right then my left ear started having a high pitched sound as if a warning of some type went off.I told her about it and she just kind of looked at me with an eyebrow raised,,,lol. Ive hesitantly said it since a couple times out of curiousity to see if it would happen again but nothing did. I dont get ringing of the ears very often so it was quite a coincidence that it happened as soon as id mentioned it. If you dont mind me asking, how did you feel when you had these sightings ? scared ? threatened? calm? just curious. I felt amazed but scared( it takes alot to frighten me) when we saw the perseid ufo, and so did my friend. The armada that we saw recently was an adrenaline rush, and we thought we were being invaded. Going back to the implant, I remember the being twice putting pressure against my head as my memories went backwards. But then, I kindve remember what felt like an internal pain as it did something to me which I think was in my nasal cavity(steve mentioned that it could have been put in my 3rd eye), im just not sure. I think I already mentioned also the pain and high pitched sound along with a crunch as if it was taking a small sample of "meat" but I cant clarify these parts of the encounter to legitimately say it happened, either or, my memory and conscienciousness (if thats a word,lol) was affected . I dont know if theyre tracking me or not, but Ive certainly thought about it and it makes me wonder along with the thought of having an implant. Do you suspect that you may have an implant ?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2011 17:47:35 GMT -6
I think I do have an implant lorelei, but I just dont know. Not too long ago I said the word implant to my fiance and right then my left ear started having a high pitched sound as if a warning of some type went off.I told her about it and she just kind of looked at me with an eyebrow raised,,,lol. Ive hesitantly said it since a couple times out of curiousity to see if it would happen again but nothing did. I dont get ringing of the ears very often so it was quite a coincidence that it happened as soon as id mentioned it. I get ringing in my ears all the time. In both ears. I also get dizzy spells which I am sure is related to my ear problems. I always chalked it up to hearing loud music for too long though. While I was living in NC, I would get frequent ear canal infections but now that I'm back home thankfully I haven't had any infections. They are very painful. I think it's because the air is much drier up here in the frozen North. If you dont mind me asking, how did you feel when you had these sightings ? scared ? threatened? calm? just curious. Do you mean the UFO sightings? When I saw the disc/dome when I was 12, I was captivated by it. I don't know how else to explain it. I wasn't excited, I wasn't exhilarated. I couldn't take my eyes off of it. I couldn't speak about it until it was out of sight. I couldn't take my eyes away from it. I couldn't move. I was afraid... but it's like it was controlling me. It's like someone wanted me to see it and did not want me to look away. It had my full attention, and I was helpless. A deer caught in headlights if you will. When I saw the triangle flying over the highway this February, I was nervous, but I was trying to rationalize it too at the same time. I was like oh... it's military jets flying in formation... then they came closer and I realized how slow they were moving. And they were still perfectly spaced apart. None of the three lights drifted any at all. And there was no sound... even when the lights glided overhead right in front of my car stopped at the stop sign. I couldn't believe it, but was still trying to rationalize it. I just shrugged and turned in the opposite direction because I was already late for work and just decided not to worry about it. Going back to the implant, I remember the being twice putting pressure against my head as my memories went backwards. But then, I kindve remember what felt like an internal pain as it did something to me which I think was in my nasal cavity(steve mentioned that it could have been put in my 3rd eye), im just not sure. I think I already mentioned also the pain and high pitched sound along with a crunch as if it was taking a small sample of "meat" but I cant clarify these parts of the encounter to legitimately say it happened, either or, my memory and conscienciousness (if thats a word,lol) was affected . I dont know if theyre tracking me or not, but Ive certainly thought about it and it makes me wonder along with the thought of having an implant. Do you suspect that you may have an implant ? I don't know Cliff. I just know that I see weird lights in the woods, I have sleep paralysis, lately I've been seeing weird visions before I go to sleep, and I remember seeing the beings when I was 8. I don't know if I have an implant or not... but... there is this small raised bump on my head that never goes away. I've had it for years... I don't remember how long I've had it exactly though. It hurts sometimes... it's very tender when I touch it at times... other times it's not... touching it right now. It's not tender at the moment. I've never had it looked at. ~shrug~ I do have sinus trouble. I've had sinus surgery twice. I don't know though. I might. Or all of these things I remember could just be my imagination or bad dreams. ~shrug~ But why is it that you and I had almost the exact same "dream"? With the conversation, the looking over the shoulder... the getting up in your face and touching you... the mind manipulation... Why is it that my story starts out "I was paralyzed with fear" because that was what I believed when I was a child because you read things like that in books and I really believed that was why I could not move. It was the fear that was paralyzing me. This is what everyone else says too when they tell their stories, and I don't think I had ever heard these other stories when I was 8. Why does everyone see grey colored beings with big black eyes? There must be something more to this than just bad dreams and sleep walking and sleep paralysis... there must be something more... ~hugs~ You can ask me anything Cliff. I don't mind answering any questions. I also would like others to answer some of mine... but it seems everyone else is asking themselves the same questions I have been asking myself and nobody seems to really know the answers...
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