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Post by skywalker on Jul 16, 2011 15:43:17 GMT -6
Funny you should mention that Steve..I don't see them 'whole' I see pieces of them in flashes. I'll see the eyes..or a hand or smooth torso but not a complete critter. I'd be hard put to put them together and I never ever noticed that before ... I've never seen the lower body I realize. I've seen them from 'table' up. When they were bending over my friend they were on the off side of her table or close to mine. How strange. Same here, Jo. I just see bits and pieces also, and never the bottom because I am lying down the whole time too. I also remember them off to the side with their backs to me like they were working on somebody else.
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Post by lois on Jul 16, 2011 23:42:55 GMT -6
I have never remembered my encountered beings . but things slip in and out of my mind. I do know they walked like robots. Jerky arms and legs. but never a face..They definitely had elbows that bend..Does this sound familiar to anyone? I know it is not like the drawing of Lorelei"s figure above.. I have also seen it wearing a long like gown touching the floor.. hanging from shoulders without any waist sort of flaring out as it gets to the floor. Very Very tall, not like the short grays. I never get a single glimpse of a face ..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2011 0:51:23 GMT -6
I have never remembered my encountered beings . but things slip in and out of my mind. I do know they walked like robots. Jerky arms and legs. but never a face..They definitely had elbows that bend..Does this sound familiar to anyone? I know it is not like the drawing of Lorelei"s figure above.. I have also seen it wearing a long like gown touching the floor.. hanging from shoulders without any waist sort of flaring out as it gets to the floor. Very Very tall, not like the short grays. I never get a single glimpse of a face .. That's definitely different than the ones I saw Lois. The ones I saw moved gracefully and smoothly... like dancers. Very frail and thin, but graceful... it's really hard to explain... Steve, I noticed you had modified your post from before when I responded to it. I tried your suggestion... tried to draw the whole thing. It didn't turn out very well at all. I crumpled it up and threw it away (after attempting it four times and erasing it). I tried again. It didn't come out right so I threw that one away too... ~shrug~ I just can't make it look right...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2011 9:50:16 GMT -6
I guess it makes sense Sky if you're lying down, you're not going to see it all. Lois the ones I saw were fluid when they moved, not robotic at all and wearing nothing I saw either.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2011 12:56:55 GMT -6
The best way I can describe their movements is like leia77 said,"graceful". She pointed out a video to me that lois had posted june 21,2011 in the ufo and alien video thread titled "the encounter wmv.". Although it appears to be a human at the foot of the bed (imo), the movement of this made me go back and watch it many times because of the similarities . I agree also with Jo about them being non robotic and not wearing any clothes . Im curious if what lois witnessed was a pleiadeian type of entity ?
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Post by Steve on Jul 17, 2011 13:08:21 GMT -6
I have never remembered my encountered beings . but things slip in and out of my mind. I do know they walked like robots. Jerky arms and legs. but never a face..They definitely had elbows that bend..Does this sound familiar to anyone? I know it is not like the drawing of Lorelei"s figure above.. I have also seen it wearing a long like gown touching the floor.. hanging from shoulders without any waist sort of flaring out as it gets to the floor. Very Very tall, not like the short grays. I never get a single glimpse of a face .. That's definitely different than the ones I saw Lois. The ones I saw moved gracefully and smoothly... like dancers. Very frail and thin, but graceful... it's really hard to explain... Steve, I noticed you had modified your post from before when I responded to it. I tried your suggestion... tried to draw the whole thing. It didn't turn out very well at all. I crumpled it up and threw it away (after attempting it four times and erasing it). I tried again. It didn't come out right so I threw that one away too... ~shrug~ I just can't make it look right... Sorry anna, sometimes I rewrite to polish and check my spelling and syntax. You must have replied while I was doing that perhaps. Steve
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Post by paulette on Jul 17, 2011 14:06:23 GMT -6
Another sliver of memory for me reading the postings above. I have written elsewhere that when I was about to have an emergency C section to get my stuck 9 lb 13 oz baby OUT, my doctor leaned over me and said "Goodnight Paulette." I know he meant to reassure me. But.
In my last instant of consciousness, I flashed on the situation in which I "fell asleep" after something landed near the house in Texas. There was a vague memory of my consciousness that night fading to a dot (like old black and white TVs used to do when you turned them off) and SOMETHING being in that dot looking down at me.
My doctor recreated that memory as he was masked (no mouth) and he wore glasses that enlarged the look of his eyes (over sized eyes). My pain and fear about having an operation instead of a natural birth also put me in a state that recreated that night. I was terrified and alone and "told THEM" - I can't stand this. I thought I could handle it. I'm sorry. I feel like I'm going to die of fear." That's the moment that I "went to sleep".
So I feel like I regained some validation. I can say that thinking about an old puzzling UFO experience was not what was on my mind as they rushed me into the OR. I was very worried about my son who had endured ineffectual labor for 3 days. (It turned out he was a shoulder presentation and would never have been born naturally so my fears were justified.) It's one thing to see a sci-fi movie and bring up old memories, quite another to be in the middle of a life and death situation and remember it. State dependent memories are memories that are "filed" under a strong emotion. We can't recall them (at least easily) while in everyday low arousal. I think that's why hypnosis "works" - the person who is regressed FEELS like they are really there and when the emotions come, so do the memories. I didn't make this up, state dependent memories are an accepted piece of psychology. When we are grieving - we remember other losses intensely and re-grieve them too. Ditto in love, ditto in fear.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2011 15:06:53 GMT -6
The best way I can describe their movements is like leia77 said,"graceful". She pointed out a video to me that lois had posted june 21,2011 in the ufo and alien video thread titled "the encounter wmv.". Although it appears to be a human at the foot of the bed (imo), the movement of this made me go back and watch it many times because of the similarities . I agree also with Jo about them being non robotic and not wearing any clothes . Im curious if what lois witnessed was a pleiadeian type of entity ? Yes Cliff. That's why I pointed the video out to you... the way he was moving... reminded me of something... and it was scary...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2011 9:43:36 GMT -6
I don't care who you are or how 'tough' you are..having something that 'alien' leaning down over you is just plain frightening.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2011 13:18:43 GMT -6
Another sliver of memory for me reading the postings above. I have written elsewhere that when I was about to have an emergency C section to get my stuck 9 lb 13 oz baby OUT, my doctor leaned over me and said "Goodnight Paulette." I know he meant to reassure me. But. In my last instant of consciousness, I flashed on the situation in which I "fell asleep" after something landed near the house in Texas. There was a vague memory of my consciousness that night fading to a dot (like old black and white TVs used to do when you turned them off) and SOMETHING being in that dot looking down at me. My doctor recreated that memory as he was masked (no mouth) and he wore glasses that enlarged the look of his eyes (over sized eyes). My pain and fear about having an operation instead of a natural birth also put me in a state that recreated that night. I was terrified and alone and "told THEM" - I can't stand this. I thought I could handle it. I'm sorry. I feel like I'm going to die of fear." That's the moment that I "went to sleep". So I feel like I regained some validation. I can say that thinking about an old puzzling UFO experience was not what was on my mind as they rushed me into the OR. I was very worried about my son who had endured ineffectual labor for 3 days. (It turned out he was a shoulder presentation and would never have been born naturally so my fears were justified.) It's one thing to see a sci-fi movie and bring up old memories, quite another to be in the middle of a life and death situation and remember it. State dependent memories are memories that are "filed" under a strong emotion. We can't recall them (at least easily) while in everyday low arousal. I think that's why hypnosis "works" - the person who is regressed FEELS like they are really there and when the emotions come, so do the memories. I didn't make this up, state dependent memories are an accepted piece of psychology. When we are grieving - we remember other losses intensely and re-grieve them too. Ditto in love, ditto in fear. That's a very interesting post Paulette. Another thing I have noticed is that smell plays a major role in conjuring up memories. I'm sure they are not called "state dependent memories" though... perhaps "Olfactory Dependent Memories"? ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2011 21:38:50 GMT -6
Ive been reluctant to post this because Im not 100% certain ,,,,only about 1/2 . It seems to me that the "being" in front of me had something with it , something that resembled a dull gray metallic suitcase but had a seashell like appearance, only it was about 24 inches wide, 6-8 inches thick, and 30 inches long(appr.). Again, I cannot be 100 % on this, but it seemed it had it on the floor to the left of me close to my left foot and vaguely I recall this entity reaching into it and doing something. Im starting to reconsider about being regressed but I just dont know. I can fully understand what Steve described as "the oz effect" because certain things are still foggy and unclear,,, I dont like that feeling ! Too many "what ifs" .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2011 22:30:41 GMT -6
~hugs cliff~
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2011 16:29:22 GMT -6
Another thing that is vague but worthy of mentioning about this is what was inside. There appeared to be glass tubes about an inch wide x about 5-6 inches long.These tubes looked dark red in color. Another thing inside was what resembled a computer screen which raised up and out . Im thinking this was perhaps a "doctors bag" or something they used to analyze and store data. There's still too much uncertainty to confirm this and that's why ive been hesitant and still am. The screen on the "monitor" seemed to have blue,white, and yellow? colors within it or nearby but it's too vague. ~Hugs~ to you lorelei !!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2011 19:50:50 GMT -6
When Id first struggled to come to and open my eyes, I saw this thing in front of me. The first thing id thought (which isnt very Christian of me) was "you ugly xxxxxx xxxxxx". I remember it looking strangely at me and when Id realized it could read my thoughts I thought "uh oh". I remembered at first not accepting that this all wasnt real but after feeling the pain and seeing the reflection of the light covering in its right eye along with the rest of the things that was happening I knew then it was all too real. After they left I struggled to speak and move for about 30-45 minutes and was finally able. I also remember the t.v. station being off air and staticky which is a sound I still cannot stand to this day along with other noises.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2011 0:57:35 GMT -6
Would one of those noises possibly be a screeching sound?
Whenever I hear truck or school bus brakes screeching I freeze...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2011 12:45:05 GMT -6
Would one of those noises possibly be a screeching sound? Whenever I hear truck or school bus brakes screeching I freeze... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That one doesnt bother me , it's mainly static from a radio/t.v. that gets to me. Certain low bass sounds do whereas others don't. Of course, fingers on the chalk board (like just about everyone else) gets to me. The worse one that I cant stand and never could is styrofoam screeching against something ,,thats the worst ! I cant stand to even touch it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2011 14:22:10 GMT -6
I can't stand styrofoam either... the sound OR the touch. Spell checker says that's wrong.... ~looks it up real quick~ styrafoam. Nope that's not right... yep... you and I were correct on the first attempt according to wikipedia. "Styrofoam". Ooooo... interesting. When I capitalize it it says it's right... I suppose it's a proper noun... ~rolls eyes~
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2011 5:33:08 GMT -6
There is a detail that I distinctly remember and I thought I had mentioned it before but after reviewing this thread I guess I failed to mention. I think I even drew the detail on one of the pics that I sent to Steve, not sure now. On the index finger of the being there were 4 grooves that when I first seen coming towards my face I thought maybe it was some type of sensor or something. it looked like 4 slices on the area of its finger where it touches to make contact.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2011 6:51:03 GMT -6
I have been thinking about something for awhile . When the being telepathically told me that it didnt mean no harm and that they needed some information I warned it not to harm my family. It then turned its head around and I guess telepathically told the other 2 to bring xxxxx out to show me that she was alright. The part Im emphasizing here is that I didnt hear it telepathically speak with the other two yet they brought her out after it turned its head around knowing I was concerned about my families well being. The other 2 were in the 1st bedroom down the hall when I warned it not to harm my family . This gives me the impression that they can mute out a telepathic transmission to one party but still have the ability to communicate by means of telepathy to another (or other) parties. Also, when I came to after they had knocked me out I saw the 3 standing and it appeared they were communicating while( the leader) sort of had its back to me and then when it realized I was awake again it turned and looked over its left shoulder at me but while they were standing there I couldnt (hear) or interpret what was being said.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2011 13:12:11 GMT -6
The being looked over his left shoulder at me too... same thing... I had no idea what they were talking about...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2011 17:44:41 GMT -6
paulette, sorry it took so long to respond, I thought I did along time ago but when going back through this thread I realized it wasnt posted. Thank you for sharing some of your experience here !
Something I mentioned recently on another topic somewhere in the forum was a detail that I had never mentioned before but I remember it clearly . When one of the beings was walking towards the hallway into the 1st bedroom I saw an internal "tube" that ran from the mid section on the right side of its back to the left horizontally and then straight up towards its neck and from there heading to possibly the cranial area.
I remember making it a point to try and remember and observe every detail that I could. Where the tube went up from the left side I noticed stretching of the skin . It was about 2 -2 1/2 inches in diameter. I recall thinking "how odd". I feel its important to keep every detail described here in this thread so theyre not scattered about. The tube reminds me of the type used on dryer vents. Just not as wide in diameter.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2011 0:25:20 GMT -6
That's really interesting... I wonder what the tube was for...
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Post by ufo4peace on Dec 18, 2011 23:24:51 GMT -6
The alien with the inverted legs is reminiscent of the Sci-Fi movie The Arrival (1996) staring Charlie Sheen. I picked up The Arrival I and II on DVD for cheap at Path Mart (a grocery store in NY).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2011 1:06:14 GMT -6
Ive never seen the movie(s) but might sometime . Until now, I hadn't even heard of them, thanks, if I see them around I may check them out . I don't really get into television much but sometimes a good movie or show will come along that I really like .
Ive often wondered how many of these beings are nearby in our solar system . A select few ? An army ? Or an entire colony ?
Ive also noticed how similar in appearance these beings are to some of the ones Hollywood and writers have portrayed compared to the real thing. Ive heard in some of the documentaries made that they used abductees to describe them which is certainly no surprise. Some of them have gotten very close to getting the details almost exact in many ways.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2011 6:42:46 GMT -6
. . . . Ive also noticed how similar in appearance these beings are to some of the ones Hollywood and writers have portrayed compared to the real thing. Ive heard in some of the documentaries made that they used abductees to describe them which is certainly no surprise. Some of them have gotten very close to getting the details almost exact in many ways. I was really surprised (recently) when someone posted on here (teor) that Spielberg used material for movie ET from the famous alien/farm incident. I always believe art imitates life, but sometimes these admissions (for me) are over whelming. Too much, too fast; agreeing with what I already know , but that has been denied for years. My comfort zone is gone. touched, I hope you sense I'm "here" all the time, reading. I try to read people's experiences every day. I'm here.
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Post by ufo4peace on Dec 20, 2011 11:12:33 GMT -6
I think in most movies the art director will want the alien to look a little different than a human so he or she will make the knees go in or give the alien tentacles, animal ears or something like that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2011 15:01:56 GMT -6
I'm here too touched. Just don't know what to say is all...
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Post by Steve on Dec 20, 2011 16:53:22 GMT -6
Hi Touched (Cliff), I am excited you are planning to purchase a serious telescope. Wow. I have been collecting plans and information to make a large 10" Dobsonian telescope one day I would build myself (I would buy the mirror and components kit). www.webjones.net/telescope_v2.htm Maybe you can help guide me, would enjoy learning more from you. Even a video astronomy sky monitoring and video capture system called 'Sonata'. sonotaco.com/e_index.html Sonata uses a kind of TeVo "trick play," which allows the viewer to pause live television, rewind and replay concept - to record and save only anomalous objects that come into view, capturing the entire event. It can be connected to the Internet and your home computer so a battery of cameras could be placed to monitor a given area of sky. I imagine different views would allow triangulating the direction and azimuth of something captured too. Now your experience being more and more recalled, this new element - the unusual device placed near you on the floor is interesting. Maybe it is a technological device that they take with them that distorts our reality? Perhaps it emanates a kind of force field surrounding your house, it might explain how they could float your ex-wife like a feather, the two beings supporting her under her arms with no apparent effort. You described to me revealing important details sharing earlier these beings were not only smaller, but did not need to shift their weight to lift her. This device might also enhance their communication with you, and enhance their ability to control you to protect themselves. It might also cloak their possible ship perhaps nearby, perhaps a number of things. Maybe it is a device that creates a small field area which permits their dimension to temporarily interact with ours (yours). Their portable 'reality bender'? Likely there were a number of things at work here. I am more inclined however to follow your line of thinking because you were there, and a Doctor's bag concept seems to make sense. Another experiencer I knew who lived in Sacramento (he passed away of cancer two years ago at the age of 54) said when they would visit him and his wife, there was usually this 'podium' like thing with small lighted panels incorporated sitting on the floor in their bedroom. He said later after I met him he only wished he had thought to photograph the impressions it made in his carpet. I wonder if it is the same device? The illustration of the aliens is impressive, but the backward feet with the third leg joint seems unnecessary. The head seems too small also. It looks very cool and 'Ray Harryhausen'. These little guys would make great Olympic pole vaulters. I would not be too sure about the legs only because most experiencers recollections seldom include descriptions of their legs and especially their feet. It certainly is possible, who can say at this point it is or isn't. Usually because they're feet (or boots or shoes, slippers, tennis shoes, or 'bootizes') are out of view in most situations described because the experiencer is either on a table, or the being is behind a console, or the experiencer is transfixed on the upper body, head, and especially those eyes we hear about often. You are perhaps recalling more bits and pieces of your memories. If you wish, perhaps we can arrange some way to do a regression over the phone, or have you meet us in California. If you are regressed over the phone, it is very necessary you are not alone, and be with someone who can help you deal with anything, should that occur. It is likely Mary could anticipate any stress during the session, but another present would be a good precaution. Far better in person. I think you have a good emotional support system already in place with your fiance and family. You also have us here, but we could not be physically present of course. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2011 19:11:12 GMT -6
I've always been taken with the movie Dune and the idea of 'folding' space. As I've thought out loud here before..the laws of physics that we all know and love..may have an extended version we're not aware of yet. There's also the idea that these beings aren't from other systems but other dimensions or 'worlds' only a vibration apart from ours. You would think..that those peering through scopes in observatories would have noticed ships cruising around. I'm very close to Palomar but apparently they aren't looking in the right directions
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Post by skywalker on Dec 20, 2011 20:30:03 GMT -6
I think there are a lot of things about physics that we aren't aware of. We speculate about other dimensions and folding space and time but like Jo said, it might even be something else entirely different that we haven't even begun to grasp yet. The possibilities are limitless. Look at the things we have accomplished in just the past 100 years and then imagine what we will learn in the next 1000...if we don't blow ourselves up before then. Then imagine a race of beings that may be millions of years ahead of us in terms of technological development...there is no telling what they might be capable of. There is definitely something more to them than just nuts and bolts space craft zipping along at the same silly slow speeds that we use. It's possible there may be a combination of things going on involving space, time and dimensions. Maybe they use all of them at different times depending on what it is they are trying to accomplish.
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