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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 0:18:23 GMT -6
the final ufo sighting of the 2 which ive witnessed happened on the night of monday, nov. 22,2010 between 9:15-9:30 pm. I stepped out on my porch to take the dogs out, and I looked up at the stars as usual,and noticed (stars) that werent suppose to be there. It was cloudy and then right at this time that I looked,the clouds broke open even more and I started seeing dozens of them spread out across several constellations. I immediately yelled for my fiance to come and see, and her son beat her to it. he saw them and yelled for his mom to come. she came out of the house and couldnt believe it and we all thought we were being invaded. by this time the clouds had opened up quite a bit, and we witnessed at least 75-100 star-like objects of different magnitudes(brightnesses) traveling in a westerly direction moving about 1 degree per second.I hurried back in the house to grab my binoculars, and went back out. my fiance went back in and grabbed the camera and then came back out. while I was focusing the binoculars in, she attempted twice to get a picture but we were rushing with adrenaline and she was having difficulty still trying to get the camera to work. her son then got the camera, and tried as well to take a video but still had difficulty so we didnt get the shot we wanted. we continued watching these objects for another 5 minutes at least, and the last ones flew over to the west out of sight. As ive mentioned in other threads, Ive studied astronomy since my early childhood and I can usually come up with a scientific explanation of what im witnessing, however, this is the 2nd time in my life as far as ufos are concerned, where im stumped with no explanation.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 0:22:41 GMT -6
the constellations which the objects were in were pegasus,andromeda,pisces,triangulum,aries,cassiopeia,perseus,auriga,taurus, and orion.missouri mufon was notified the following day .
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 0:51:49 GMT -6
one of the good things about this experience, is my fiance is now a believer (pretty much) lol
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 2:24:07 GMT -6
another thing I wanted to mention in this post is I considered the leonid meteor shower,and unless theres something I dont know about them, I highly doubt that was it unless particles were entering in a way that ive never witnessed prior to this. I feel the reason that their wasnt other sightings from this in our area is that the clouds had just opened up,,,,it had been overcast up to this point. Im always open for opinion, I just dont know personally what we witnessed !!!
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 2:47:13 GMT -6
Wow... amazing!
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Post by skywalker on May 3, 2011 12:23:51 GMT -6
It's interesting how cameras never seem to want to cooperate when you need them to. Did MUFON ever give you an explanation for what you had seen?
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 13:31:26 GMT -6
hi skywalker,so far mufon hasnt been able to come up with anything yet . I havent heard from them for awhile and margie kay has taken over on these investigations. jack hubbell initially started the reports. As for the 3 videos,the only thing on them was me cussing because I was in shock. I dont usually talk that way, but my adrenalin was pumping to the max(excuses,lol). we were all in such shock that I think that was probably the case because in the vids the only thing visible is the ground, and the outside light.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 13:34:04 GMT -6
last night when my fiance kelly spoke with steve, she said there were hundreds of these objects. I tend to agree with her, but I dont want to overstretch the numbers. If the moon wouldnt have been full, we probably would have seen many, many more .
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 7:03:03 GMT -6
one of the things kelly and I said to each other at the time was that we thought we were being invaded. she tried to call several local news channels directly afterwards but they said they didnt take part in sightings,,,,,imo they missed out . we honestly didnt know who to call, but ill know next time,,,,,,steve !!! I know these werent birds ,(ducks,geese) because for one they appeared to be higher than the jetliners that were underneath, and they glowed with no city lights exposing them . the 2nd reason I know they wasnt birds is because that time of year theyre farther south by then.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 7:05:09 GMT -6
to add : no apparent formations either like geese and ducks normally travel in .
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 13:07:44 GMT -6
to add : no apparent formations either like geese and ducks normally travel in . No V or W shape, right? ~nods~ I love your new avatar by the way Cliff. Very spiffy. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2011 1:01:56 GMT -6
hi leia77 !! There was a couple of triangle shapes, but because there were so many objects, I dont think it was purposeful, I think the angle from our observation point caused it to appear that way. They were all traveling in the same direction and were spread out several degrees apart travelling at the same rate. The question you asked me last night was a good one,"do you think they may have been chinese lanterns"? The answer is no, unless they can travel higher than commercial airliners(there were 3 commercial jetliners travelling in the same direction west, and 2 travelling north that I used for reference and velocity) . Ive seen chinese lanterns before, and they dont travel this high that I know of. The magnitudes of these objects varied from about -1 - +4 according to my calculations and usually chinese lanterns(from what I saw) are usually much brighter and not near as high. These objects appeared to be in the upper atmosphere. I would like to know how high chinese lanterns can go though, because I feel its a very good question and one Id like to know more about. Im still shrugging at this one . I was hoping for sure the videos would turn out,,, that bites !!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2011 10:01:10 GMT -6
Thanks for sharing your experience Touched. It makes you wonder..where so many were going and from which point they left. Does anyone know..what is the optimum distance for seeing moving lights like that..to be able to say how far away they might have been? I know there is a formula. Anyone? Might help tell us where they might have been headed...what could be within the vicinity of the craft distance?
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Post by Steve on Jun 25, 2011 10:17:33 GMT -6
Curious how the Missouri Mufon Assistant State Director, and the Kansas Mufon State Director driving together from Kansas City to Piedmont, Missouri to a speaking engagement reported a possible missing time experience on June 16, 2011. Yet it is categorized as a category 1 only.
In April 2010 Chase Kloetzke reported a very questionable close encounter in a corn field on a so called star team investigation.
Both cases of which have received much play on the Internet (especially in her case - by Chase herself) yet the case files show nothing about the encounter directly (all reference to the entity deleted by both investigator/witnesses among the three present), and now this June 16 incident being very much played down.
Are aliens now focused on state directors? Maybe they are curious why Mufon is so screwed up too? Or to raise attendance at meetings and symposiums they must 'manufacture' topics for attendance and money? I have seen local chapter leaders hype their meetings profusely if it makes for more attendance. I know, I have seen locals do this for me when I was the guest speaker. I see to it they are not exaggerating beyond the truth when that happened. Scanning activity in Missouri in the past three months, many have been lights in the sky stuff, later given a case deposition of IFO's. A triangle report, and this new missing time case of the investigators themselves.... but no clear pattern in the nature of these reports geographically or by date/time.
I am probably wrong (hope so), but it seems good folks like 'Touched' with possible interesting leads are slipping through the local Mufon investigator methodology there.... other states too for sure.
Steve
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Post by lois on Jun 25, 2011 13:44:24 GMT -6
This meeting is in a town I use to live close to.. been there many times.
Touched you may want to look into it.. My kids are still there but not too interested in ufos. Yes I can see aliens targeting State Directors now. I was thinking that the other day. Thanks for the Post Steve.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2011 23:35:28 GMT -6
thanks all !!! I was asked by the Missouri assistant state director if I wanted to speak publicly about my experiences but at this time Im not and probably never will . I have to admit that there is some type of activity going on over Missouri, especially to the north and east of my location, but Im not for certain what Im seeing yet and dont want to jump to conclusions until I can verify with better observations what they are. I think they may be meteors, or some type of air traffic and am only speculating at this point. It seems from what Ive been reading with recent reports, there have been some sightings in this location and Ill try to keep my eyes on the skies and when I do see something,,, Ill report it to steve first !!!
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Post by Steve on Jun 26, 2011 23:43:19 GMT -6
thanks all !!! I was asked by the Missouri assistant state director if I wanted to speak publicly about my experiences but at this time Im not and probably never will . I have to admit that there is some type of activity going on over Missouri, especially to the north and east of my location, but Im not for certain what Im seeing yet and dont want to jump to conclusions until I can verify with better observations what they are. I think they may be meteors, or some type of air traffic and am only speculating at this point. It seems from what Ive been reading with recent reports, there have been some sightings in this location and Ill try to keep my eyes on the skies and when I do see something,,, Ill report it to steve first !!! Thanks Touched. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2011 8:34:24 GMT -6
I purchased a small meade etx-60 telescope over the weekend to hopefully catch a closer view to what im seeing, these little scopes are handy .
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Post by paulette on Jul 3, 2011 12:11:46 GMT -6
Wow! This is recent stuff and a camera at the ready....I don't know if I want to wish a visitation upon you but - if it happens try to get away with the camera. (I imagine THEY take such things away and wipe them or disappear them.)
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Post by skywalker on Jul 17, 2011 21:54:45 GMT -6
Here is another sighting in Missouri that I just pulled off the MUFON site. Sounds kind of similar.
Case Number: 30220 Log Number: US-07162011-0021 Submitted Date: 2011-07-16 23:39 GMT Event Date: 2011-07-16 21:30 GMT Status: Completed City: Winfield Region: Missouri Country: US Longitude: -90.738458 Latitude: 38.9972723 Shape: Circle,Sphere Vallee Index: AN1 Description: Forgive me for being short, im on my android. I went out to check the mail when i got home. As i started to go down the drive way, notice some orange to red dots pretty low, qt first i thought they were just helicopters. As i watched for a moment, i then thought maybe they were some type off fireworks, at that moment they started to turn at a certain point. It wasnt all at once, so it couldnt be the wind. At that point i called my mother to tell her to come out right now! Shes not the type to curse regularly but when she saw what i seen she said "what the #$%& is that!" The whole ordeal only lasted about 5mins. Unfortunatly i was not able to get a pic or video as i only had my phone and the street light was too bright to get anything else.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2011 0:27:36 GMT -6
thanks sky, I looked up where winfield , mo. is and its about 3 hrs from my location which isnt very far . Its NW. of St. Louis, Mo. It seems Mo. is having alot of activity recently from what ive been reading. I know ive said Ive never seen a craft up close but a few nights ago the guy who encountered the perseid ufo with me at the lake mentioned another sighting that hadnt crossed my mind til he said something about it the other night . A few years ago I was driving the car down a country road and him and my daughter (hes the father of 2 of my grandkids) told me something was in the air and my daughter started panicking and so was he so I pulled the car over and got out and looked up to see what it was. My daughter started telling me to get back in the car but I watched the object fly over and then saw it up close. It didnt appear to be any aircraft I could identify(ive loved aviation all my life but im not an expert), it appeared to be circular in the front and many lights underneath but by the time id pulled the car over it was almost directly overhead. My daughter and her spouse had said before Id pulled the car over that it appeared to be about 6 stories tall but with it overhead I couldnt see all of it by the time id pulled over.It was big and didnt make any noise. With my daughter in a frantic state like she was, I got back in the car and left . I recently told Steve about this. The strangest thing about this is my daughter doesnt remember this at all,,and shes a smart young lady going to college with a 3.8 gpa. I had thought of it a few times but im just not sure what it was. I also witnessed (with many other people who noticed it before me) 2 disc like objects which hovered over Las Vegas for quite awhile after sunset back in about 1990 but im not sure what they were either. I cant say whether or not these were extraterrestrial,,,
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2011 9:32:40 GMT -6
Los Vegas sees a lot of strange stuff, because of area 51 I suppose...UFO related or not..they do a bunch of test flights around there. I've got a really strong feeling that we're going to see a lot more activity in the next few months if we just keep looking.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2011 14:59:40 GMT -6
very true Jo. I saw a article in the past titled "nellis ufo" which acted just like the perseid ufo that me and my son in law saw here in missouri. But the perseid ufo was much quicker which has me wondering if it was terrestrially made . Nellis air force base is of course in las vegas, and I use to live next to the base. Whiteman air force base,home of the b-2 stealth bomber, is north of my location here in Missouri and it was north where we saw the perseid ufo,,, so it couldve been man made or back engineered ? I just know it was advanced beyond anything I would picture us having. As for this sighting, its still up in the air as to what they were and I may never know but Im still looking at the sky on a regular basis .The past few years have offered some interesting sightings . Back when I lived in Vegas I use to hear people talk about experiences and sightings they had there, such as seeing disc like vehicles that hovered and then popped up and vanished . I remember when George Knapp was a television anchor man for I believe klas-33 in Las Vegas and I also remember the day he said he was quitting and moving on to ufo investigations because of all the sightings which were happening during that era.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2011 16:29:02 GMT -6
very true Jo. I saw a article in the past titled "nellis ufo" which acted just like the perseid ufo that me and my son in law saw here in missouri. But the perseid ufo was much quicker which has me wondering if it was terrestrially made . Nellis air force base is of course in las vegas, and I use to live next to the base. Whiteman air force base,home of the b-2 stealth bomber, is north of my location here in Missouri and it was north where we saw the perseid ufo,,, so it couldve been man made or back engineered ? I just know it was advanced beyond anything I would picture us having. As for this sighting, its still up in the air as to what they were and I may never know but Im still looking at the sky on a regular basis .The past few years have offered some interesting sightings . Back when I lived in Vegas I use to hear people talk about experiences and sightings they had there, such as seeing disc like vehicles that hovered and then popped up and vanished . I remember when George Knapp was a television anchor man for I believe klas-33 in Las Vegas and I also remember the day he said he was quitting and moving on to ufo investigations because of all the sightings which were happening during that era. Hrm....
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