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Post by randy on Sept 24, 2018 22:12:15 GMT -6
This what I saw my self years ago I have a very firm opinion on what it means and it is scary as hell. Driving with my parents along the south side of Tiberon penninsula Traffic was stopped by several military vehicles blocking the road. A few young men in OD clothes were sitting in the lead vehicle laughing and pointing at the backed up cars. I noted none of the trucks and jeeps had unit insignias and the men had no unit or rank insignias on their uniforms. Sanitary I thought at the time. Finally an older man showed up and shaped up the young men and they drove off opening the road. Swing around the end of the point by the town of Tiberon I noted army trucks parked on the hill above the road and men in OD clothes and an open tunnel in the hillside. The men were unloading large gas cylinders and taking them into the tunnel. They had gas masks which I found odd. My father who was driving stopped at an over look and we over looked the bay talking. I noted some people along the shore back the way we had come starting to heatedly argue Then other started like a wave of anger coming towards us. It got to us and around us and my father left the area. On the way home we had an argument also. Later there was a news story about a gas leak in Richmond that blew across the bay to marin. My sister received a letter in the mail asking her to answer questions about that day such as did you feel angry or highly emotional etc She and her husband had heated argument that day. On other occasions driving around Tiberon I had noted army trucks on the hill and an open tunnel in the hill side. Curious I drove there did a recon and found no tunnel it was well hidden Doing lightening raid I left just as Tiberon cop drove up. Good security Bam they were on me. Concluding they were testing chemical weapons on the people of Marin I tried contacting Sen Feinstein and she refused to do a thing saying I did not live in her area so in effect buzz off. Many people living around my sister have had cancer and their marriges break up. Their pets have cancer and my sister has had cancer. I think it is still going on based on some recent events No one listens to me What do you thinks
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Post by jcurio on Sept 25, 2018 20:51:52 GMT -6
I “ran into” some “proof” of this chemical testing done in San Francisco. It had the year or years it was done... etc.0
Thought of your posts when I read it.
Now, if this wasn’t “just a dream” that I saw this “proof”, I will stumble across it again. Even if it isn’t the same printing or detail that I read about.
I think A lot of information is coming out; people just are interested in other things? Like, there are no real surprises left? IDK.
I DO KNOW that you need to make some new aquaintenances. From what you said in your other article from same hours ago as this one
Gotta think of yourself, dude. More than knowing what is ongoing on the inside
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Post by jojustjo on Sept 26, 2018 9:54:52 GMT -6
Well Randy..it doesn't really matter what any of us think. The people doing these things are too far above the general public to be held accountable for anything. Just a quick search brought these articles up. Pay particular attention to the last one because she's talking about cancer in her family after the fact. I figure this. If these tests were conducted and admitted to...then very likely your story is true as well. I can understand your frustration in failing to find any officials to listen to you but I'm sure not surprised. Common Randy, you've been talking about your UFO experiences for a very long time and people just listen to them like they're interesting sci fi...This is how we are controlled..and how we always will be by others higher up the food chain I still say that knowledge of the world around us may not get us anywhere but at least we're not as igannant of it as some are. Makes me feel a little less like a sheep if you get my drift. There is so very much in the world around us unseen..imagine what's out there in the universe. Entities we can't see (ghosts, spirits, demons) who knows what invisible things exist. According to some things I've read recently..aliens who can telepathically cause us to see something different than what we are looking at...or see nothing at all. I believe it. Hide in plain site sounds like a winner of a plan to me. www.cbsnews.com/news/us-admits-bio-weapons-tests/www.activistpost.com/2017/10/us-tested-carcinogenic-chemicals-canadian-civilians-cold-war.htmlwww.cbsnews.com/news/secret-cold-war-tests-in-st-louis-cause-worry/
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Post by paulette on Sept 27, 2018 22:47:39 GMT -6
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Post by randy on Sept 28, 2018 10:09:09 GMT -6
Recall Robbin Williams suicide. He lived in the Tiberon area and the wind blows on the famous and the garden variety person equally. He hung himself and anger. the anger is the point in that event. Was it chemically induced. I did learn from the Cancer society in Marin Co that there are cluster areas for cancer in Marin. some areas have unusually high rates of cancer for unknown reasons Back in the 1950s SF was used as a testing area involving spreading of flu by aircraft. They wanted to see how fast they could spread a biologic weapon. For seven years I ran a rescue mission as I found it never dull. I learned alot about people and also captured one of the FBIs top ten most wanted. he came in and I recognized him. I also had good info on another serial killer who confessed his crimes to me and as usual I was ignored.
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Post by jcurio on Sept 29, 2018 8:34:10 GMT -6
Another “weird co-ink-y-dink”. 😲🙁
Yesterday, at a clients house, between 12:30 pm and 1:00 pm (central time), the client was watching one of those “ID” programs about solving murder(s).
I can’t even recall what brought “robin will” to my mind. 😲 I just made the comment “even if R Williams was known for suffering from bouts of depression, I can’t imagine him killing himself for the onset of a age-related illness”. Weird. The things that come out of my mouth out of no where. . .
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Post by jojustjo on Sept 29, 2018 23:00:12 GMT -6
I have no doubt Robin Williams committed suicide because he had been diagnosed with Parkinsons. At his age, it would have been a very difficult road. Not all suicides and deaths are the product of some stealth activity....most are people just being fed up with what life is dishing out. Much more troublesome to me...are the suicide incidents of children...as young as 7..ending their lives. Ours is a very un-certain time of life, to be sure...but I blame a lot of what is going on with the kids on social media. They get together and listen to or chat with who knows who and get ideas.
When talking about killings and suicides..there is another outlet...the paranormal. People are testifying that angry spirits can manipulate people into harming themselves or others. Solar flares are said to effect sensitive people too. I don't think the government really has to do us in...we seem to be doing ok at it ourselves.
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Post by jcurio on Sept 30, 2018 14:10:11 GMT -6
Makes one wonder what chemicals we don’t know about that get released; accidents or whatever. Some stuff IS exaggerated by people, but I still have to wonder why it is so easy even for young people to turn to suicide. Since we know that some people tend to do “copycat” things, that is where I would blame “social media”. Yes, I realize just how sheltered I was in my growing up years (though I had MANY things happen to me anyway), but I’ll never forget one of my good friends mentioning one day that she thought about killing herself (we were 18). I was dumbfounded. I eventually asked her “why”, and it wasn’t even something that I could comprehend. It wasn’t about disliking herself.... but about someone close to hers hypocracy. How much that bothered her; how it gave little hope to her having a better life. I don’t think that I said anything helpful, but she did not attempt it. She went on to have a child within a few years by an older brother of a friend of ours, and when that didn’t work out, she “found” someone else. Anyway, she was a beautiful girl and that was my first experience of hearing of someone wanting to do this. She may not even remember the conversation.
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Post by jcurio on Sept 30, 2018 14:21:49 GMT -6
So, I still have doubts about R Williams. Not to just argue or anything. Parkinson’s comes in a lot of different forms, and he could have “bought” a lot of help. He could have kept his mind through it all and made people laugh for many more years. His entertainment was NOT just in being seen (Aladdin; for example).
I wasn’t implying anything “stealth” about it either. 🙄
Something overwhelmed him obviously. The theory I give most credence to is the “dark movies” that he had done. He was a talented actor, and maybe he really didn’t care for those movies after he did them. . .
It’s hard getting “old”. Period.
We should try to make it look more joyful for the younger crowd. .. (somehow)
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Post by jojustjo on Sept 30, 2018 23:30:00 GMT -6
It isn't joyful getting old. Not to argue either...but maybe the combination of his depression and his diagnosis was more than he could bear facing. Until you've been there, you just can't know what some one else feels. I am so fortunate to not have to wrangle with depression but I did see some of it in my mother and I'm sure that is what started her drinking. Double whammy since alcohol is a huge depressant...she was either ranting and raving, sobbing or sleeping. She never thought of harming herself that I knew of and she was in her late 80's when she died. Not amusing but interesting is the human progression. We're so finite...so fragile but so intensely resilient too. From birth we meander along to some grand finale. What we make of the in between is up to us and the cosmos. I truly wish sometimes we didn't have free will...and I admit..I honestly do not get it. Maybe you can add to this JC. Say next door neighbor A..gets up in a really bad mood and is in a rage because of neighbor B's loud radio (it's the kid but that's not a consideration)...Neighbor A grabs his trusty 45 and proceeds to shoot Neighbor B. K..it was Neighbor A's free will to commit that crime..but what about Neighbor B's free will? Did he choose to get shot? Nope. So...seems rather lopsided, this free will. I guess the argument would be that it was Neighbor B's 'time' to go and Neighbor A was just facilitating that? I dunno...I understand that about like I understand quantum physics. There are so many accounts and stories of the government using the population as guinea pigs. Spraying chemicals, stuff in the water, even a 'treaty' with an alien race to allow abductions. Where there are so many stories, there has to be some truth in my mind's eye. Could the government be held accountable if there was proof? Or would people end up 'missing' over it? I have it in my head...that in some ways this life does resemble a matrix..we chug along doing our daily thing..the days rolling by. We live our lives...but I think we're really really igannant of what goes on around us. All of the plots and sub plots and manipulations and organizations. They effect us by influencing our lives...stock markets..politics..and such...but we just 'make the best of it' and even if we ask questions...we can't trust the answers. Now THAT..is depressing LOL
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Post by randy on Oct 6, 2018 11:43:15 GMT -6
I have good evidence that the testing is still going on and is very effective in producing violent aggressive behavior in normally docile calm people. Total uncontrolled rage. Other people have told me they have seen the army trucks on the hillside. marin is a very liberal area where better would the military test such a weapon. I call it riot in a can. Get a gathering of people and give them a whiff of this stuff and you have a riot on demand In the one instance where my sister received a questionare in the mail they admit a gas was in the air but said it was an accidental release in Richmond across the bay. so why would they send out a questionare about did you feel angry or violent for an accidental release. Kind of obvious what is going on. They can create riots on demand for political reasons like the Arab Spring
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Post by jcurio on Oct 6, 2018 12:52:06 GMT -6
Welllll, with our nature and proclivities, I would say it is MUCH EASIER to “stir up anger” in a human being, than to make one “docile”. . . .
I would agree with you about “Marin County” except for one thing. They are now showing commercials in my Midwest that “Marin County” is the place to get milk from cows. The two don’t go together at all. 😖 especially since we can get our milk a lot closer.
Here’s what I’m questioning: I don’t see any benefit in making areas of human occupation “angry”. If you’re talking about just watching people “tear each other apart”, how would one contain the area?
BTW, Whitley Streiber writes of such activity in one of his books about the future. He does make it look like “they” (meaning alien influence) got the “desired results” “they” wanted..... it “thwarted the good guys” by having regular citizens suddenly attack them. Very contained. Very fictitious.
Then, look at the movie “legend” with Will Smith (years ago). A “cure” for cancer made people change for the worse, and then it spread like a virus. Who is really ready to take that kind of risk?? Why, suicide bombers of course! And why we need desperately to keep that type of behavior out of the States.
I’m more inclined to believe in “electronic attacks”. Sorry. A lot easier than predicting the way the wind blows- but of course a LOT more expensive.
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Post by jcurio on Oct 6, 2018 12:53:48 GMT -6
But, for how long?
We are SO wired. Everywhere.
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Post by jcurio on Oct 7, 2018 13:03:42 GMT -6
Kind of obvious what is going on. They can create riots on demand for political reasons like the Arab Spring Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/8058/wahts-opinion#ixzz5TGxgQ7ND______________ Hope that you are not implying that “the Arab Spring” was caused by a “chemical reaction in humans”. OR implying that our government had something to do with it...... That guy in Syria is still in power..... I don’t know why....I can see people like him going beyond just “testing” chemicals. But everything else at that time, like Gaddafi? Had been brewing for a long time. I can recall the instant uproar stateside about us launching some missiles over there near Gaddafi, and feel like our public version of events has been “somewhat whitewashed” since. Now that’s depressing. That I don’t pay attention to “middle east” news since the Arab spring?? And almost insulting that a “knowing person” over here, would imply that those poor people over there have become so “docile” that it takes a “chemical” for them to rise up against their corrupt government. . . And with their internet shut down, who was directing them to gather?
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Post by jcurio on Oct 7, 2018 13:12:00 GMT -6
Speaking of the far end of “chemical testing”, it is probably going to be more productive for us to be concerned about tainted food: _________________
Tainted” is a very broad term. Live pathogens cause infections, spoiled food that has been cooked thoroughly can cause intoxication due to residual waste generated by microbial growth. Food that has come in contact with hazardous chemicals can also be considered tainted.
The short answer is “Any food made unfit for consumption by the presence of a hazardous pathogen or chemical.”
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Post by jojustjo on Oct 8, 2018 23:46:36 GMT -6
Seems to me it would be more productive for the military to produce a chemical making people more docile not more enraged. For crowd control, in war...it would be a lot more beneficial to calm people rather than agitate.
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Post by randy on Oct 10, 2018 11:32:24 GMT -6
Think of the power implied that any gathering can be turned violent by a a simple gas release. The political power there is tremendous. They would not create such a gas on a whimsy or for lack of anything else to do. It is purpose generated action. They intend to use it A gathering of protestors protesting meal worms can be come violent on demand. Such violence could used as a reason to declare martial law and the sky is the limit after that. Gas is a very effective weapon. The French foreign legion used phosgene in Vietnam to wipe out a VC strong hold rather than attack if physically. Total massacre. Couple of very good books out written by exlegionares The French recruited ex SS partisan hunters to fight for them. Its the mind set you have to consider than creates such things in the first place Totally ruthless. For all you that have not heard there is an epidemic of flea borne Typhus in LA They used the word epidemic. Perhaps a flea collar on your ankle. hand them out free to street people Dust the dog
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Post by randy on Oct 14, 2018 21:37:05 GMT -6
Recently my sister was alone in her home and felt irritable. Noise attracted her attention outside in the front of home. the neighbors father was arguing with his grown son loudly and both were shoving each other while the mother was standing in the yard screaming loudly to the sky. They were totally our of control. My sister phoned the police who arrived and did not appear to be affected by any anger issues. the actions of the neighbors would seem to indicate testing of the riot in a can gas is still going on. Who knows what else is being test or has been tested
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