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Post by auntym on Jun 9, 2011 16:00:41 GMT -6
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What Makes an Alien Encounter Movie Believable? ..... Adam Hadhazy Date: 09 June 2011 A still from the new science fiction film "Super 8." CREDIT: Paramount Pictures Corporation Aliens are all the rage at the box office this year, appearing in sci-fi thrillers such as "Super 8," the comedy "Paul" and action movies including "Cowboys and Aliens," just to name a few. For movie studios, extraterrestrials are a good bet: Ever since the advent of the motion picture, filmgoers have reliably forked over dollars to see them. Yet for escapist entertainment's sake, these on-screen aliens tend to be grotesque, mucosal monsters or kid-friendly, big-eyed charmers rather than beings plausibly from another planet. Some movies, however, have at least nodded in science and history's direction, and in so doing have presented slightly more believable versions of E.T. Arms and legs, or tentacles? In an awful lot of movies, aliens look remarkably like us. This arrangement is convenient for narrative purposes, such as audience sympathy, and not to mention budgetary concerns (2009's "Avatar" for the former, and 1951's "The Day the Earth Stood Still" for the latter). [Television's Best Science Fiction Shows Ever] To a certain extent, it's anyone's guess as to what an alien might look like, because after all, we have yet to find anything living outside of our planet's biosphere. So it's certainly possible that intelligent, spacefaring aliens could stand erect on two legs, wave two arms and look upon us with two forward-facing eyes. "You can't argue that something that looks like us is an implausible design for an intelligent species because obviously it works," said Seth Shostak, senior astronomer at the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI) Institute in Mountain View, Calif. Accordingly, movies featuring humanoid aliens should not be deemed unbelievable offhand. But the anthropomorphic bias that directors sometimes have for their aliens' physical form is less a matter of scientific uncertainty than an unsubtle manipulation of audience expectations. "Friendly [aliens] always look like children, while unfriendly ones look like arthropods or something you would order at a seafood restaurant," Shostak said. TO CONTINUE READING CLICK ON ABOVE LINK
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Post by Steve on Jun 9, 2011 18:25:05 GMT -6
It somewhat side steps the original question. Are 'Alien films' believable? I am not too sure 'Hollywood' perhaps has addressed this admittedly tough story problem adequately yet. What is a alien in an audience's mind supposed to look like? It is so subjective, and at the present time, if you exclude all UFO / abduction reports totally, the only source for such concepts are our own isolated 'Earth-locked' cultural loop. If we are to see ourselves as a product of planetary evolution that conceivably occurs independently on other planets too, a humanoid anthropomorphic model is certainly not the only one that could develop. But I think a humanoid anthropomorphic form might turn out to be the one essential prerequisite in that same evolutionary process for space flight to occur though. This because a humanoid form maybe the best one we know of at present that is the most compatible for the evolutionary development of tools & technology. So should we be all that surprised if reports of alien encounters we always read about then describe visitors possessing a humanoid like form? Life in the Universe maybe everywhere, boundless both in it's form and variety. But if we raise the evolutionary 'bar' to it's highest - limited to those forms of life that have achieved a evolutionary level capable of space flight to other parts of the Universe, we might find remaining only a very exclusive evolutionary 'galactic club' of humanoid life forms. Then raise the 'evolutionary Bar' even higher...hyperversal aliens....so advanced perhaps a humanoid 'container' or 'vessel' form of life may have long since been abandoned... replaced with life in the form of self aware energy that transcends dimensions, time, and space.... So personally to each of us....what is an 'alien'? One possible answer maybe: A metaphor for the unknown..... Steve
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Post by skywalker on Jun 9, 2011 23:45:06 GMT -6
I don't think I have ever seen an alien encounter movie that was believable, at least not when compared to my own experiences...and those are pretty unbelievable themselves. I'm still hoping that someday somebody will make one though.
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Post by Steve on Jun 9, 2011 23:54:37 GMT -6
I don't think I have ever seen an alien encounter movie that was believable, at least not when compared to my own experiences...and those are pretty unbelievable themselves. I'm still hoping that someday somebody will make one though. I think you hit the nail on the head sky. Make it unbelievable from the character's standpoint, yet one an audience could somehow accept story wise. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2011 10:30:41 GMT -6
For the same reason people believe a lot of the early westerns that had very little of reality in them from the Indian's standpoint. If people don't know any differently they will often accept someone else's version with little question about it. For instance..we did ('Americans') more scalping than Indians ever did..they learned it from us. Naturally you see a movie like ET, or Paul and the public relates to cute. Independence day, War of the Worlds or Signs and people can still only relate to the kind of 'bad guys' they understand or understandable good guys in Close Encounters..they want to be friends and return items they borrowed and something more wonderful..they circumvented the 'establishment' and called out to every day kind of people. Well who wouldn't love that one ;D Real abductions toss variables out there that are different from our physics such as moving through objects or possibly bending space or creating worm holes. We can still only relate to things with our understanding of them. That is what I've had so much trouble with..the sheer alien-nes of it and not comprehending a motive. Normally kidnappings ala human are for money or manipulation. I can understand plain ole greed. I can't understand beings from elsewhere or when..wanting samples of me. I think people have more trouble with movies like V or Alien Nation (one of my favorites) when the aliens can be bad or good or District 9 when we're actually the bad guys. 2001 space oddesy is sureal...mind expanding and amazing. I think it stands alone out of all of them.
If you enjoy good Science Fiction...read Rendezvous with Rama, Arthur C Clarks best book in my opinion. Set in the 22nd century, the story involves a fifty-kilometre-long (31 miles) cylindrical alien starship that enters Earth's solar system. He created a world inside of a space ship. Morgan Freeman wanted to make the movie and they still talk about it but he hasn't been in great health. Possibly in 2013.
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Post by skywalker on Jun 10, 2011 18:55:30 GMT -6
I think that one of the main reasons why there are no believable alien movies out there is because the people who make the movies don't know anything about aliens.
For instance, let's say that a producer decides he wants to make a movie about UFOs/aliens, he then hires a writer to come up with a screenplay, but the writer probably knows nothing about the subject. What he would do is go out and buy a few books about UFOs/aliens, pick out some of the most exciting things he read, throw in some technical jargon, (abduction, implants, hypnotic regression, Niburu, implants, etc...) and try to write a typical Hollywood story based on that little bit of information.
After the script is written it then goes to a director, who also knows nothing about UFOs or aliens, and he directs a bunch of actors, who know nothing about UFOs or aliens, and they all give their own interpretation of the script.
After the filming is finished the movie then goes to the special effects people and the editors and a bunch of other people, who know nothing about UFOs/aliens, and they finally end up with a movie that has nothing whatsoever to do with the actual UFO/ alien abduction phenomenon.
The Fourth Kind movie is a perfect example. I personally believe that movie had a huge amount of potential, and if they had done it correctly it would have been a fantastic movie, but instead it ended up being nothing but a poor stereotypical caricature of the UFO/abduction phenomenon which is why everybody in the UFO community hated it. It was Hollywood's version of the alien abduction phenomenon rather than a realistic one.
I normally cannot stand to watch movies that are about subjects that I am interested in because the technical inaccuracies drive me nuts. One of these days somebody who is familiar with UFOs and aliens should make a movie about it...then it might actually be realistic.
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Post by paulette on Jun 10, 2011 20:09:11 GMT -6
I'll start with unbelievable aliens - bodies that don't seem to have enough flesh - they look like transformer roaches (movie: Sector 61 or whatever number it was). Aliens with totally impossible body forms in other ways (V - the human bodied ones somehow had a 4 foot tail with a poisonous barb tucked in somewhere).
Aliens that start off seeming absolutely creepy and then are mellowed out by the end of the movie (Communion, Sector 61, Men in Black extras).
Now for the more intreguing attempts: Man Who Fell to earth. That was a creepy sad weird movie that showed how barbaric WE were. Ditto E.T and I liked the detail in Encounters of the Third Kind that had the government killing the animals for fear effects - using trucks with Coke logos on them. I saw some movie that overall wasn't that good BUT the knees went backwards like a birds legs. It was totally believable and creepy. Contact was great - was or was not the kind man who talked to Jody Foster on the beach her father? Had they replaced her father a long time ago to "shape" her? That was my favorite. A lot was left to the watcher to ponder.
Here's my plot for a movie or book. A lonely human (smart, isolated) puts out "the call" for a lover. Then she (but it could be a he) begins to have dreams - of being cherished, loved. But the actual lover is not clearly visible. Finally gifts and clues are left (maybe this was written afterall - as Beauty and the Beast.) But in my version the lover is not quite "here" nor is the beloved able to get "there". Nevertheless the attraction (and inevitable bad moment grows). Maybe a child is created (shades of the Astronaults Wife and V). Maybe one day by extreme act of will she (the human) breaks through the glamor or alternative reality or time warp - to find....gasp, shudder, what her lover looks like when he's home alone. This might break the relationship but maybe in one version they - work around it. I'll just slide my tentacle around you here and please please if you could just touch that little flap there....Neither set of in-laws would be happy with this of course - if you think partnering with someone human but just merely a different skin shade or religion is problematic - try alien human inlaw issues. But then there is the child - which looks a little cute and loveable to both. Coming to a TV movie near you.
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Post by skywalker on Jun 10, 2011 21:10:57 GMT -6
Since we are talking about really far-out ideas for movies, how about this one. Let's say that there are these people who are having some really crazy experiences like getting zapped by a beam of light and floated out of their bed in the middle of the night, or maybe going out for a ride and somehow ending up with weird burns, missing time and on the wrong horses. They keep having dreams of little gray men and UFOs and other weird stuff like that. Each of these people think that they are nuts, or dreaming, hallucinating, etc...and they are really having trouble coping with their experiences until one day they happen to meet each other on something like...umm, let's say...an internet forum. They start talking with each other and learning that they share a lot of the same weird experiences. That's when they find out that maybe they aren't so crazy after all. Of course, in order to make the story exciting we would need to have some villains. A corrupt, power-hungry organization would be cool, probably with a sinister sounding name like MUFON or something like that, and there should be some other shady character with a name sort of like Cap'n Flash. To make the story really dramatic we would need some super sleuth investigator, like a Sherlock Holmes type character, who would be tirelessly following the tangled web of clues which ultimately would lead to the huge climactic finally where the truth will finally be revealed... And they all live happily ever after. I realize that is a pretty crazy plot, especially the part about the happy ending, but hey, it could happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2011 2:52:28 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2011 9:32:47 GMT -6
You would find that believable? ?
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Post by Steve on Jun 11, 2011 10:03:26 GMT -6
You know what is unbelievable? They originally were going to cast Spencer Tracy in Michael Rennie's role of Klatuu in 'The Day the Earth Stood Still'. Glad it turned out as it ultimately did. I saw the new remake recently of TDTESS. I would be embarrassed to be associated with any part of that film. The kid in the first (1951)film was cool, the kid in the second film was an irritating brat, swat him! Glad I never bought a ticket to see that one. Since we are talking about really far-out ideas for movies, how about this one. Let's say that there are these people who are having some really crazy experiences like getting zapped by a beam of light and floated out of their bed in the middle of the night, or maybe going out for a ride and somehow ending up with weird burns, missing time and on the wrong horses. They keep having dreams of little gray men and UFOs and other weird stuff like that. Each of these people think that they are nuts, or dreaming, hallucinating, etc...and they are really having trouble coping with their experiences until one day they happen to meet each other on something like...umm, let's say...an internet forum. They start talking with each other and learning that they share a lot of the same weird experiences. That's when they find out that maybe they aren't so crazy after all. Of course, in order to make the story exciting we would need to have some villains. A corrupt, power-hungry organization would be cool, probably with a sinister sounding name like MUFON or something like that, and there should be some other shady character with a name sort of like Cap'n Flash. To make the story really dramatic we would need some super sleuth investigator, like a Sherlock Holmes type character, who would be tirelessly following the tangled web of clues which ultimately would lead to the huge climactic finally where the truth will finally be revealed... And they all live happily ever after. I realize that is a pretty crazy plot, especially the part about the happy ending, but hey, it could happen. You could definitely incorporate into such a story the elements you mention as metaphors. Cooler that way, and makes the audience 'think' clearer in a way. Avoids the disclaimers to references to 'persons (or organizations) both living or dead' too. The 'Sherlock Holmes' character would be neat too, but don't make him (or her) with many eccentric traits, just possess the character with this amazing clarity in seeing through all the confusion people bring to him or her to solve. As a interesting side note to the character, make the audience puzzle as to why this character can seem to see so clearly. What is it that makes the character see through all the Internet crap and know importantly what to focus on, and what importantly to ignore? In the story later we have a new plot twist when we find out this Sherlock Holmes character has a secret alien connection. Both an investigator, but in some remote way it turns out a 'intermediary' too. Possessing no special powers, other than just in itself 'knowledge is power', knowing a bit more privileged information from the phenomenon being investigated itself what 'they' are really up to. Make the character appear as 'ordinary' and 'blending in' as possible. More humorous and ironic that way. He or she is a individual force for good and understanding because he is only 'mostly human' in origin. Quite human in the context of a 'Spock' (an alien) is, he has empathy for his/her clients while remaining somewhat detached. It turns out he is a human intermediary with a secret genetic past he (or she) is struggling to understand himself/herself. But his unique skills and 'access' to the phenomenon helps him or her in solving mysteries too. He/she knows some of the players on the other side too, and works with the 'good guy' aliens in a much larger story context about what all these contacts by humans with aliens in the form of UFO's and abductions all mean. Is this special access unique to him or her? Or is it this character now realizes what all of us possess, we are connected each and every one of us to a greater galactic whole? Conan Doyle's Holmes character if you look deeply was a force for good, who knew the 'criminal elements' just as intimately. it might instill some depth into any story. Steve
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Post by paulette on Jun 11, 2011 12:37:57 GMT -6
OMG. Are you talking about yourself Steve? The enlightened alien amoung us??? You ARE our Sherlock. (at this point she reels back from the computer keyboard and looks at her hands and says, "What have I done! I've told him everything!!!"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2011 14:40:21 GMT -6
OMG. Are you talking about yourself Steve? The enlightened alien amoung us??? You ARE our Sherlock. (at this point she reels back from the computer keyboard and looks at her hands and says, "What have I done! I've told him everything!!!" OMG! Steve is one of THEM!! lol... ;D
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Post by Steve on Jun 11, 2011 15:30:29 GMT -6
OMG. Are you talking about yourself Steve? The enlightened alien amoung us??? You ARE our Sherlock. (at this point she reels back from the computer keyboard and looks at her hands and says, "What have I done! I've told him everything!!!" Whoa! Rest easy Paulette! I thought we were just using our imagination here now related to movies... ;D Most people who talk with me about their experiences seem to do so because they feel comfortable with me. I listen carefully, but seem also to keep my feet on the ground too, or so I have been told. Many investigators in this field you will find out in some cases are themselves 'experiencers' too. Not me, best I can tell. I joke with experiencers once we have developed a trust, if they want these strange things to stop - then become a field investigator. ;D Nothing strange ever seems to happen to me at least best I can tell. I have accumulated a great many stories related to me I am very privileged to write. I am so amazed sometimes. I sit and work hard at work, often go to events, spend time with relatives, and never talk about the interesting things I investigate. Partly is I think for many it makes some around me uncomfortable. A few others - even to becoming faintly upset. (Churchy Republican types). That is fine, there are plenty of other things to talk about too. Some of the fancy guests on Coast to Coast (like Linda Moulton Howe, and other of the same ilk) - frankly their stories really really put me to sleep! I am often amazed, perhaps astounded by the backgrounds of some of the witnesses who relate their accounts, that must remain secret not only for their own privacy in general, but their reputation as engineers, scientists, and that paradigm they live in and enjoy the benefits of their education from. Knowing that if it got out they might be being visited frequently by little gray aliens.... those 'benefits' might fade or disappear in the real world. Ironic how these persons are trapped, their secrets held tightly within their family, in stress and in fear both for themselves, and what it all means seriously for their children and loved ones. They don't know who to go to. They relate, "they are taking on a regular basis my son! And as a loving parent feel helpless and worthless not knowing at all how to stop it!" They can't call 911, they cannot discuss it with their fellow scientific colleagues, not their pastor, priest, or Rabbi. They need answers, and perhaps also find a way to cope with something on going, sometimes continuing for a number of years. Restore some semblance of 'control'? So I seem to have these two lives. I can't discuss much, other than to some extent here.... and sit around at family get togethers... feeling a bit awkward holding in some fun and extraordinary stuff....sigh. Which is reality, and which is truly the farce? I am not as sure. It also is disturbing to ponder - what if aliens are not farming just genes, but information. Well, of course they are...but I mean specific sensitive information? That information is not related to me thankfully, but I know enough to appreciate what the topics of certain information may mean. Nuclear, aerospace, and cyber warfare. My colleges at ARIRA were astonished when after I read the witnesses initial report, I told them there is much more here the witness is not sharing (which eventually they did - making that call). From long experience hearing these accounts - such cases which have so many frequent strange recurring events - it is highly unusual for 'them' to not at some point, having already gone to so much trouble already....to not make an appearance too. I made another good 'call' when I told them if the possible experiencer has a engineering/scientific background, to expect they have certain classified aspects to their backgrounds too. A disturbing reoccurring pattern I have noticed. People with extensive scientific and engineering backgrounds confessing being the subject of alien contact and possible abductions. The little grays farming for just genes? ... Or 'information'? Again, who can you report this too? See the trap? Do you tell your superiors who was interested in the information you are entrusted with ...that it had been 'scanned' by little gray men? Unless their exists among humankind somewhere technology of the 32nd century, the phenomenon we are dealing with - as some stupid conspiracy hucksters in denial mistakenly think - little grays aliens are not a cover for psych ops. In such social scenes, I guess the best and safest thing sometimes is to ask - as splendid actor Geoffrey Rush did in 'The Kings Speech' ....awkward in tone in breaking the ice between therapist and client.... (in this case the future King George VI).... "well....you know any jokes then?" Steve
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2011 16:03:38 GMT -6
Well Steve, You can share with us, even though you can't share with your friends and family. We love to read your stories! A very well-written post too. ;D By the way, when I'm a famous rock star (~smirk~), I'll make a movie about my strange experiences and the people on this forum. I'm not a future scientist... I'm a future rock star. Most people will just roll their eyes at my movie and say "She's done too many drugs..." ... lol... nothing to lose for me. And sky- I will make it accurate and not Hollywood-ified. ~nods~ oh... and I'll do my own soundtrack too... with lots of creepy church organs in harmonic minor... ~smirk~
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Post by paulette on Jun 11, 2011 23:04:29 GMT -6
Steve - for the record I don't think or believe that you or anyone here is an alien. I could be wrong of course (am all the time). I too was playing around. Truth is always stranger than fiction....well, maybe not Steven King or Spielburg's fiction. This board is like going for coffee with more or less the same group every day (something I never actually did. But it seemed so adult). We tell the same stories, or different versions of it and ocassionally someone walks in with a new dramatic story. I try to put this in a fictional mode but its a stretch.
Various ranchers sitting around, plates pushed back. "Well I lost another cow."
(sympathetic silence....waiting for details)
Predators?
Yup.
Coyotes?
"Well...this one got lassoed and was hauled up into a shiny ship."
People take a sip of coffee and ponder this....
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Post by lois on Jun 11, 2011 23:59:26 GMT -6
I think the fourth kind had it very close .. what Richard had endured. Where they would land and let me off and pick people up I'm not sure. No monters .. no people eating rats like in V. that is the worst one they ever made. yet people love it. Shows how this world thinks if you ask me. Who would love that movie is not all there in my opinion.. I don't go in for science fiction much, but I did enjoy the fourth kind.
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Post by skywalker on Jun 12, 2011 8:36:18 GMT -6
Do you mean the Fourth kind or the Third Kind? Richard Dreyfuss was in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. The Fourth Kind was the one with the woman psychiatrist up in Alaska.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2011 9:25:55 GMT -6
People love the Chainsaw Massacre & Saw also..so there is NO judging taste or credibility by the american public and the way they gobble up gore. I do love the classics..and The Day the Earth Stood Still is one of my all time favorites. I can't imagine any other actor doing it and most remakes fall miserably flat I loved close encounters too but I have a sneaking suspicion that other civilizations won't be driving around in flying chandeliers but something more solid and riveted looking. Again..who could play that part any better than Dreyfus did .. Unless you do some Industrial Light and Magic footwork (visual effects specialists)..real encounters are not going to impress the public much. Geeze..where are the special effects? Is that guy floating up to the space ship ALL? Who could we get to play Sky? Cruise? Radcliff? ~chuckling to my self~ People want definitive aliens..good or bad..so they know who to root for. And I'm all for the rat eating V...we have a terrible rat over population..but what do they start on when the rats are gone??? Anyone for starting a rat business with me...out of self defense? ;D
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Post by Steve on Jun 12, 2011 10:37:20 GMT -6
Problem with most movies today are they are too dark, over edited, and over wrought with CGI (computer generated imagery).
Some scenes should be set up where the director and cinematographer just locks down the camera, mark the set so the actor does not wander out of the scene, and let the actors do what they do best...act. Who are these people teaching at the UCLA film school? Probably bad editors needing employment having not cut it in the studios....there being only so many films to work on.
I actually don't like some parts of Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Other parts I love. The first scenes in the 'Soanna desert', and the Indiana Radar center.... and Lacome prodding the hovering three UFO's at the beginning of the finale to 'let go' and reply back... The ending and beginning are wonderful. But suffering through some parts in the middle, so Spielberg can demonstrate he knows about the suburbs is real old now. Most of us grew up in the suburbs, we pay for a movie ticket to escape from that.
Look at the image at the top of this thread. They look like 'Spielberg kid actors', the same 'Harry Potter with their mouths hanging open in awe look.' Yawn! Not a 'zit' on them!
I love Spielberg's creativity of course, and wonder what films today might be like without his influence, but often I am, dare I say, getting tired of the Spielberg 'look' to many of his films. The same ear splitting surround sound (I loved the beginning of Jurassic Park, but hated the film). Left the theater with a ice cream headache from the oppressive sound of that damnn T-Rex.
But I love the Indiana Jones films. Spielberg is now placing his stamp on George Pal's 'When Worlds collide' after trashing his 'War of the Worlds'. Too much money! I liked Spielberg when he really had to work hard, was hungry, and had to prove himself. That is why 'Jaws' is so incredible, it never gets old. Now, Spielberg has so much financing, his name always assures box office success, he can get away with anything, he just thinks it up and does it. Don't misunderstand, I love Spielberg and his motives, but he is not doing his best in my opinion anymore. Tired of him, because he has so much money to play with, he can rearrange every artist's earlier sand castles...
Never seen Texas Chainsaw massacre, or all of 'V'. I either knew of it, or saw part of it, and was bored with it ('V').
Getting tired also of the same images of huge alien craft hovering domineeringly over cities. That is getting real old now too. I mean...why have these huge craft zap the cities directly below them? Are the aliens bad shots? Why not just switch off the antigravity, and like a fat kid, just sit his big butt down and squash everything instead! ;D
It might be to gage the attitude of the public about UFO's, it might be best to gage the science fantasy films of the generation of that moment.
The wonderful (and the bad ones we easily forget now too) films of the 1950's pre - conditioned us for one set of expectations. I think when it happened, this maybe why the Hill abduction case in 1961 was such a new unexpected curve to the journey. Compare the 1950's films then with the films of today. A new generation is now pre - conditioned for a new set of expectations. Nothing sinister or conspiratorial about it, just giving the audience what they are paying to see. Today the expectations are 'Disclosure' (both good or bad)....about radical social change, warnings about the environment, and so forth.
Audiences need a fresh 'escape' from the current easily forgettable films, with just as easily forgettable actors as soon as they leave their theater seats.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2011 10:58:14 GMT -6
I absolutely agree that most movies today are filmed wayyyy to dark..I hate that...and I agree that the giant hovering UFO has lived way beyond it's usefulness 'We will now engulf you..hiding is futile'. I love the Indies too..when I watch a movie..it's action/adventure or good Sci Fi. I'm just not a good romantic comedy type if there is something swashbuckling close by. One of the neatest things about the classic science fiction..is that we weren't troubled by knowing a lot about the science of space. I watched Rocket to the Moon yesterday and giggled like a fool because the 'astronauts' weren't expecting the thrust of take off..the contorted faces and strangled looks were priceless (no helmets on of course). They had these boots with big round magnets glued on and the rocket looked like a missile. You don't expect to wade through a lot of technology. Still..I loved Armageddon for it's special effects and visualization..how would things be on a meteor flying through space. The movies made in the last few years have been disappointing to me compared to older ones.
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Post by Steve on Jun 12, 2011 11:30:06 GMT -6
I absolutely agree that most movies today are filmed wayyyy to dark..I hate that...and I agree that the giant hovering UFO has lived way beyond it's usefulness 'We will now engulf you..hiding is futile'. I love the Indies too..when I watch a movie..it's action/adventure or good Sci Fi. I'm just not a good romantic comedy type if there is something swashbuckling close by. One of the neatest things about the classic science fiction..is that we weren't troubled by knowing a lot about the science of space. I watched Rocket to the Moon yesterday and giggled like a fool because the 'astronauts' weren't expecting the thrust of take off..the contorted faces and strangled looks were priceless (no helmets on of course). They had these boots with big round magnets glued on and the rocket looked like a missile. You don't expect to wade through a lot of technology. Still..I loved Armageddon for it's special effects and visualization..how would things be on a meteor flying through space. The movies made in the last few years have been disappointing to me compared to older ones. Sweeny's early introduction to rocket travel. Destination Moon (1950) Great post Jo, I remember the crew with their contorted faces too. I guess in the space age we soon discovered how flabby our faces really were! The problem with Science fiction is really most film makers I think really don't understand science fiction, or what it really means. They high-jack Science fiction to promote their own personal agendas...the environment, or a chance to showcase some new special visual effect without any basis in the story. How hypocritical these film makers are, they use sophisticated technology to make films telling us technology & science is bad for us. Science fiction should not frighten us, but fill us with wonder, and give us hope for a better future. Steve H.G. Wells vision of the future (year 2040) in the SciFi classic film 'Things to Come'. Wells foresaw the second World War, but missed global warming or 'reality TV'. ;D But are they really an issue? www.filmreference.com/Films-Str-Th/Things-to-Come.htmlAnd Reality .... The Hyatt Regency Hotel in San Francisco, California, largest lobby in the world, inspired some say by the scenes in 'Things to Come'. In the film 'Time after Time' (1979), the character H.G. Wells travels in his time machine in pursuit of Jack the Ripper - there is a brief poignant prophetic scene when Wells played by Malcolm McDowell arrives in 1979 San Francisco, gazes in wonder at this lobby in the film. quazen.com/arts/architecture/14-engineering-wonders-of-the-modern-world/
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Post by skywalker on Jun 12, 2011 12:05:59 GMT -6
Who could we get to play Sky? Cruise? Radcliff? ~chuckling to my self~ Ha! Nobody could pretend to be me...I'm one of a kind. ;D
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Post by lois on Jun 12, 2011 15:10:40 GMT -6
Sky I did mean the third kind. I have never seen the fourth kind. I did watch a comedy once with some idiot who goes into space with the astronuats. He does not get into his sleeping chamber a monkey takes it. He has to spend all the travel time by him self. The things he did . I never laughed so much in my like. I will try and find it. lol
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2011 19:28:27 GMT -6
What a memory you have Steve..that was the exact scene I was talking about Hmmmm...thinks to myself...maybe he IS an alien...
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