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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2011 16:12:50 GMT -6
Wow... o.O
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Post by auntym on Aug 16, 2011 16:57:43 GMT -6
i'm curious....why didn't han answer these questions....? i would love to hear the answers....
What has kept the human race from being extinguished by aliens?
How many times has the human race been wiped out to extinction?
i think its interesting han said that the SERPO PROJECT happened....i always believed this ....but i was in the minority....
this is really interesting.... WOW
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Post by Steve on Aug 16, 2011 19:06:45 GMT -6
Mary and I came up with questions. Sometimes we had too many questions, the sessions would go about an hour to sometimes an hour and a quarter. and Mary did not wish to tire me out. So the questions not asked are saved for future sessions. Those questions will probably be asked by Mary too. Along with the 'Linewave' and 'Phobos' questions.
anna wanted to know if Han knew of Linewave. The other Jo's question about Phobos's a derelict ship, or any other unusual features about it.
Mary has more questions about dark matter.
And did the SERPO Project really happen?
The second question rereading it seems a bit rhetorical. Has the human race ever been wiped out to extinction? We are here aren't we?
The first question is interesting though....
I feel a little strange posting all this. Feeling a bit vulnerable. But I promised I would. But I am not really sure if it is me here. To others (major skeptics), it has to be me. Rest easy, I don't hear voices ever, or have any issues with my sanity. Others, who know me and are professionally skilled to diagnose that say reassuringly I am fine.
When I am put into these trances, my mind becomes relaxed, at ease and very focused. At the same time my mind seems to open to some other level where I seem to have these thoughts come freely into my mind. I share them and they are recorded by Mary. In my mind, I never hear any voices, I just share the thoughts that comes in.
Mary says my voice changes. Part of this is the normal monotone that comes under hypnosis. In the last session, I seem to have had a tendancy to express words in groups of three, then another three. Mary said this itself had a hypnotic effect, which Mary said she resisted.
In the second session, Han was rather 'up' and talkative. In the third session, sharing about other aliens abducting humans, he was rather somber and sad.
No rabbit named Harvey at least.
Mary has told me others have done similar sessions, with other so called entities. They are often printed in book form. We are not going to go near those books now, so it will not prejudice what ever maybe happening. When we are finished, will compare what Han says in our experiment later.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2011 23:55:03 GMT -6
Happened, but was not very successful on either end and evidently was a one way trip. Sad. We always think how cool it would be to go flying through the stars or to visit other planets..evidently we have home issues. I guess that shouldn't be so surprising..it's even hard to move to another state. Which came first..Serpo experiment or Spielberg Close Encounters? It's nice to hear that the abductions are not condoned..but evidently not controlled either..I guess..there isn't real authority to tell them to knock it off. I was trying to remember where I heard that the Roswell crash might have been 'staged' by them. Darned if I can remember where it was now though..someone I think mentioned it in MUFON long ago. Still very interesting Steve..thanks for sharing
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2011 12:56:53 GMT -6
I typed 'Han' into the search engines just to see if someone else might have run into him but all I found was a Chinese dynasty race and Han Solo. I'm fairly certain you're not channeling either of them
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Post by Steve on Aug 19, 2011 17:18:03 GMT -6
Interesting this Han said Roswell was staged. By whom I wonder was he referring to? The entities, or the cover-up by the Army. I think 'Serpo' was allegedly to have occurred in the 1960's? If it really did happen that is. Spielberg's film was released in 1977. According to Han, Project Serpo was not a real success, and said that short term brief exchanges was the new policy since. Does that include what we refer to as abductions too? Having been in Mufon, I know Mufon 'mentions' many things. They would know as much or as little as anyone else about this. What could be a meaning for the name 'Han'? One definition of HAN in my search brought up 'Alone' (like Han Solo)? 'John' is a Biblical name that is traditionally transliterated in Chinese to 'Yue Han'. Yue means 'promise', and Han 'writing'. For a Chinese speaker, depending on the tone and character associated with this name, it may mean ''Self control,'' or 'self restraint.' Han, as a word in ancient China, especially in classical literary Chinese, can also mean 'the Milky Way', or as people in ancient China called it, the 'Heavenly River'. German Name Meaning - 'gift from god'. In Sino-Korean, it literally means 'country' or 'leader'. In Hebrew, it means 'Yahweh is gracious'. Arabic - a variation of Hanna - 'Congratulations to your health'. African - Hausa 'prevented', or 'forbidden'. Who knows! Maybe in Zeta Reticulian...it just means 'Freddy'... Steve
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2011 22:31:33 GMT -6
I rather like the idea of a friendly Freddy From what I understand, if Serpo was a fact, the exchanges on our side perished from exposure to the radiation of two suns. Wouldn't that have been something they would have been aware of? Possibly not so much our people but theirs would have suspected a problem? Serpo is not something I was even aware of until you mentioned it and I looked it up. Sort of like Roswell..there has been a LOT of downplay of it..much nay saying and claims of hoax. It seems to have that same feeling of 'me thinks they protest tooo much'...and yet another thing that would be more desirable under the rug. I've looked forward to your sessions Steve. To me it's more credible when Han talks of things like the abductions being known but not sanctioned and that they are taking steps to stop it but don't just bust in like cosmic cowboys and shoot the bad guys. There seems to be a certain, not necessarily respect, but 'diplomacy' toward others here? Think so?
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Post by Steve on Aug 20, 2011 1:27:44 GMT -6
I rather like the idea of a friendly Freddy From what I understand, if Serpo was a fact, the exchanges on our side perished from exposure to the radiation of two suns. Wouldn't that have been something they would have been aware of? Possibly not so much our people but theirs would have suspected a problem? Serpo is not something I was even aware of until you mentioned it and I looked it up. Sort of like Roswell..there has been a LOT of downplay of it..much nay saying and claims of hoax. It seems to have that same feeling of 'me thinks they protest tooo much'...and yet another thing that would be more desirable under the rug. I've looked forward to your sessions Steve. To me it's more credible when Han talks of things like the abductions being known but not sanctioned and that they are taking steps to stop it but don't just bust in like cosmic cowboys and shoot the bad guys. There seems to be a certain, not necessarily respect, but 'diplomacy' toward others here? Think so? 'Freddy' maybe my way of deflect some of this with humor. But this is an experiment with Mary that has become important to me. Mary it seems when you bring up 'Serpo' here, may have not transcribed everything, as I recall more of the sessions. In 'Serpo', the ones that perished over time were physically well cared for according to Han. Han explained these first emissaries perished from the psychological stress. Serpo was unprecedented, the disconnection from humankind more or less forever - separated by light years. Nothing could prepare them for all that was opened up to them. Han related the entities compassionately projected screened illusions - from memories earlier downloaded -into their minds to create alternate realities of home. Reality? Or like a star trek's 'menagerie'? In the last session, I felt a somber emotion from Han about the abduction question. Part of why so many abductions occur perhaps is the genetic material collected is interfered with, treated like counter-band by Han's species. This hampers the other species efforts in their hybrid program. Mary says she has a new series of questions this weekend - ones she thinks I cannot answer alone. Steve
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Post by auntym on Aug 20, 2011 1:46:57 GMT -6
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Post by Steve on Aug 20, 2011 1:57:33 GMT -6
Glanced at it, staying away from reading it for now. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2011 10:26:34 GMT -6
All of it's interesting to me Steve..I look forward to your next session
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Post by skywalker on Aug 20, 2011 15:39:35 GMT -6
I think we should move this stuff about Han to its own thread. Any suggestions for a name for it?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2011 17:49:37 GMT -6
Steve's hypnosis sessions? Something to identify the thread and identify who..would seem to me anyway I totally agree it should be separated and saved.
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Post by Steve on Aug 20, 2011 18:50:28 GMT -6
That sounds fine. 'Steve's hypnosis sessions'. I feel better if someone else titled it. Thanks Jo.
We just finished another session this afternoon. Mary asked me a lot of questions about Dark matter, which she said she had read up on. I thought that was perfect. It would help to further differentiate me from Han.
Another entity appeared for the first time with Han. In my mind standing to Han's right and two steps behind in a low lighted space somewhere was 'Loel' (like Noel with an 'L').
Mary in consideration of this new presence asked 'Loel' questions too, but they were passed on & communicated through 'Han'. No individual answers so much as both relating the same things expressed through one. They're appearance pretty much the same.
The entities never appear very stark & clear in my mind. More like two bust figures filmed from the chest up as seen through a camera with cheese cloth over the lens to soften the images I saw. (Barbara Walters treatment).
Mary said Han was describing things I really could not have known according to her booking up beforehand. About dark energy, particles, and the fourth dimension. There were some pauses as I contemplated the answers being given, and then related back to Mary by what Mary called in clear very simplified easy to understand concepts.
She will begin to transcribe this next segment. I was feeling tired after this session. Though at the time, I was quite relaxed.
Thanks for considering moving this to it's own thread, I did not mean to do this, it just took on a life of it's own.
Steve
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2011 19:33:38 GMT -6
It's interesting that he brought a friend..maybe you've become a curiosity to them Have you ever asked if they have he's and she's? I remember you saying that they don't 'eat' as we do but do they reproduce singularly (I would think they would be way beyond mitosis), by cloning or as couples?
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Post by Steve on Aug 21, 2011 1:56:45 GMT -6
I remember Mary asking me when I was being put into the trance if there were other entities besides Han. So the presence of Loel may have been a hypnotic suggestion on Mary's part.
The technique Mary uses to induct me changes each time. This is intentional she says. This time was like a slow gradual plunge taking some time. Other times she induces me quickly counting back-wards. Other times she has me close my eyes, and focus on opening as sloooooowly as I can.
These sessions are all done over the phone. My long distance is free as part of a flat rate. She uses a speaker phone, with a microphone next to the speaker recording our two way conversations. I usually arrange to be alone so as not to be disturbed, laying out either on a leather sofa in the living room, or in the bedroom, with the cordless phone between my ear and a pillow. Today, while going under, we had to stop because the neighbor kid across the street had the garage door open, and started playing his drum set. The garage acts like the Hollywood bowl, magnifying the sound. So I had to stop Mary, retreat to the bedroom, and we began again.
Mary also asked Han about me. If I had been changed in some way early in my life.
She also asked Han if he had any questions for us. He asked about human fears. Their species was inter-connected into a community telepathically, not like us. Fear in humans seems to him to often stem from our inability at our present evolutionary state to communicate only on a few very limited levels.
Han commented the more we use technology to communicate with each other, the more a false expectation arises within us we are well served by such devices. When in reality we seem to communicate among ourselves very poorly in a personal sense. Han asks, do you truly understand each other any better as a result? Technology for humans to communicate reveals the human desire to one day communicate telepathically, what Han's species already does now organically.
Steve
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Post by Arctic Amazon on Aug 21, 2011 2:28:54 GMT -6
I put this thread under "Close Encounters on the Edge" because I wasn't sure where else I should put it. Anyone object to this?
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Post by skywalker on Aug 21, 2011 9:04:46 GMT -6
Looks good to me. I'll move the rest of the posts over.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2011 18:02:44 GMT -6
I think it's perfect Lorelei
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Post by paulette on Aug 21, 2011 22:29:32 GMT -6
Steve ! I somehow missed the beginning of this thread....faded out when you said you were a skeptic. And now...you are explaining the Big Bang theory from an outsider's perspective in time and space. Why not two bubbles? Works for me. I am totally amazed by this turn of events. You who never claimed any visitation experiences now have a "Big Brother" alien who explains things to you. Wow! Double Wow!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2011 23:08:23 GMT -6
I think Steve has been as surprised as any of us. His hypnotherapist has asked some very challenging questions of Han..and the answers have been very interesting.
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Post by skywalker on Aug 21, 2011 23:14:30 GMT -6
I wonder if the same thing would happen to anybody who is hypnotized? Maybe hypnosis allows people to remember things that they never in a million years would have guessed they would know. I admit it is interesting to read about though. It's different...a nice little experiment.
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Post by Steve on Aug 22, 2011 2:40:17 GMT -6
Yes Jo, I have been very surprised. Thank you for your support, as all my friends here have.
Some have been concerned about me whether my credibility has been damaged as an investigator by this experiment. Has all my objectivity as a friendly sympathetic observer been thrown out the window?
It has concerned me introspectively too, which one might gather if you read my early comments in this thread.
Everybody says here they all have had experiences, but not you Steve, you were (past tense) our anchor. Well, I still am, if that is to be my nominated role.
I am sorry if this thread, or experiment has perhaps alarmed a few. I think it is very interesting, and I am still a sober objective ..and compassionate investigator. In this experiment I am learning much about what hypnosis does and doesn't do as a tool in abduction research for example.
I feel that, whether the experiences I relate here are real or not..... they should be judged not from my conscious part of my mind (still objective and logical I hope), but from my unconscious part.
There is a huge difference between the conscious and the subconscious, and perhaps it might provide insight to me into why people perhaps think they may have been taken or abducted by aliens. I do not think I myself has ever been abducted, or ever really seen a UFO either for that matter.
The conscious mind includes everything that we are aware of. This is the aspect of our mental processing that we can think of and talk about rationally. A part of this includes our memory, which is not always part of consciousness, but can be recalled easily at any time and brought into our awareness. Freud called this ordinary memory 'the pre-conscious'.
The subconscious mind is different, and has different rules. It is a reservoir of feelings, thoughts, urges, and memories that exists outside of our conscious awareness. Many times, the contents of the subconscious can be unacceptable or unpleasant. Such as feelings of pain, anxiety, or conflict. According to Freud again, the subconscious continues to influence our behavior and experience, even though we are unaware of these underlying influences.
Some here maybe doubting my objective friendly manner which you have often looked to here. I assure you, it still is here. Because that is secure in my consciousness.
The underlying influences from the subconscious is really what is being explored here in this thread. It is another part of me I seem to be sharing here with you. Perhaps in a way no one else has ever really done before on the Internet.
If most of you submitted to this same experiment, I bet we might all here have similar things to write about.
Importantly, by using myself as a guinea pig, it helps me in providing insights into the human mind related about the abduction phenomenon.
So does 'Han' really exist? I confess the conscious part of me is very skeptical. I have shared that with you from the beginning. I can only assure you he exists in my subconscious.
Much or all we may know about the abduction phenomenon comes from a combination often of both conscious and subconscious memories brought out often (but not exclusively) through hypnosis regressions.
I believe as far as I know...I have never been abducted, yet I have related to you, with more to come....about many things. Dark matter, the structure of the Universe, Han, images of other worlds.....all that I have related here from the subconscious. Happily, this exploration so far has been pleasant and enjoyable. Pleased the subconscious part of me reflects that.
The big question to me is....if I have never been abducted...why can I relate so much here as I have? Could this apply in some cases to nice people that call themselves experiencers?
Steve
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Post by skywalker on Aug 22, 2011 6:07:11 GMT -6
There are a lot of things about this universe that we are unaware of. I was a total skeptic about a lot of things until I tried them and found out that they worked. That little experiment we conducted on the old MUFON forum involving group meditation was one of them. We had a large group of people spread out all over the world, most of whom had never even met each other in person, yet somehow many of those people were able to have visions of similar things just by meditating at the same time. I remember one time Jo and I saw the exact same vision. I have no idea how that happened but it did.
Maybe there is some universal consciousness that people are somehow able to tap into. Maybe these beings that communicate telepathically are trying to communicate with us...abductions could be a part of that effort. Maybe hypnosis and meditation is another part of it. Perhaps by altering our state of mind it opens us up to receive signals from outside sources, like this "Han" dude. It's an interesting possibility.
I don't know if what Steve is relating is true or not, just like I don't know if the "memories" I have of my abduction are real. They do need to be explored though and this experiment Steve is conducting is a good way of doing that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2011 9:59:53 GMT -6
Sky I've been reading a book about being able to access the 'cosmic consciousness' that is around us all of the time. Anyone can do this with enough effort and practice. The practice involves being in a very relaxed state (which hypnosis would definitely count as). Some people do this without realizing they are, some try so hard they can't..but it's there to access. So if Han (being from another world) is tapping into that same consciousness, then Steve would be receiving him the same way. Or Lorelei with her automatic writing (another form of the same thing). The kind of creepy thing is..other things use it too so a couple of 'prayers' of protection wouldn't be a bad thing. What is very helpful (as far as I'm concerned) is that Steve has Mary to record and then transcribe everything he's saying. In lab conditions she would be his 'control' and I think it's very helpful to have one.
Steve, I don't see how this would diminish your effect as an investigator, rather it would help you catch nuances you might have missed before. Gives you more to ask and other directions to pursue. As for being someone without 'experiences' ..sometimes people don't know that for years. We need to stay skeptical enough to challenge but open minded enough to accept possibilities.
I'm positive you could do this Sky, you lean that way already.
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Post by skywalker on Aug 22, 2011 12:20:54 GMT -6
You mean...use the Force?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2011 14:56:53 GMT -6
You mean...use the Force? ;D Steve, I think you're awesome for trying this experiment. I do not think any less of you for delving into your subconscious mind... I mean... after all... we all do this at night when we go to sleep we just don't always remember the things we "dream" when we awaken. ~hugz Steve~
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2011 17:39:20 GMT -6
Use the force Skywalker!!! May the force be with you
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Post by Steve on Aug 22, 2011 17:52:47 GMT -6
SESSION IV Saturday, August 20, 2011
Client was placed in deep trance. The being known as “Han” was requested to step forward. An invitation was extended to Han to bring someone else with him. Steve perceived 2 beings coming forward with one holding to the background.
Steve: There are two! I recognize Han’s shape. There is another one, in the background, to the side and behind him.
Therapist: And so, I will be addressing the questions to the being known as Han. When you are ready please let us know. Take your time.
(Double beeping sound.)
Han: I’m ready
Therapist: Thank you. Thank you for bringing someone else with you.
Steve: And, now, the others, but it’s different. He is like Han in appearance but different. I am told to stand by. They have soft features, both of them. Kind of a dark silhouette against amber background. Han is sitting there, waiting patiently, waiting for his time to talk. He is ready for the questions.
Therapist: Thank you. I will address Han now with the question. Han?
Han: Yes?
Therapist: Does a burst of gamma rays indicate photons coming from a 4th dimension?
Han: Repeat the question.
Yes. Does a burst of gamma rays indicate photons coming from a 4th dimension?
Han: The gamma rays come from a pulsar and travel through space. There will be gamma ray bursts. It does travel across time, if that is what you mean by a 4th dimension. It radiates out in a burst randomly The gamma rays are dangerous. They need to be avoided. They do indicate a distortion in time and create a bend in space that is occurring naturally and these are effects of a gamma ray burst on a sun that is in a different time in life than the natural span of this star which Earth people call Sol.
Thank you. Are there an infinite number of dimensions?
There are more than we possibly realize but infinite is an ambiguous term, it might be true, but there are more than humans realize and there may be more than even we realize.
How many dimensions does your species interact with?
Steve: My mind from Han says “26 dimensions at present. Perhaps more. It is astonishing!"
The next question has to do with the beginning of our universe. Did some particles move into the 4th dimension during the beginning of our universe?
These particles are dark matter that permeated the membrane between universes and these are the particles you refer to.
Therapist: Yes.
These particles can permeate universes and provide us with the means to travel across the vast distances. We can step across one universe for a shortcut that provides us a brief distance in which to travel wherever we wish to go. When we step back into the former universe at the destination the dark matter helps provide - like the mouth of a river in which we flow between universes - to make this possible - to use a simple analogy.
Thank you. How might we human beings detect the 4th dimension?
The 4th dimension is around us. A parallax view is possible where a simple observation could make this possible. But it is difficult for you to discern at present how this is possible. You can learn by using 2 vantage points in parallax view to see a simple shift in matter across space. A pulsar might show a type of shift that could allow 4th dimension to be evident.
Thank you. Concerning dark energy, two questions: What is it made of and does it push the material world apart?
It co-exists in the existing material world. It actually makes up the majority of the material world, the material universe. It is not evident unless one looks across the vastness of space where most of it can be seen in quantity. It provides the balance of what composes the universe. It makes more advanced concepts regarding energy and mass and gravity, bringing them into harmony in making the complete perspective of what the universe is composed of. It is what scientists here wish to find -- a unified theory that will make everything understandable but this understanding will only be the beginning of further understanding once this unified theory is understood in time. It will provide a doorway for many things, as it did for us, millions of years ago to facilitate uses of energy on a planetary scale and to provide means of transportation between stars.
There is a current theory that dark energy is what’s causing the universe to kind of spread out. Is that an accurate view?
The universe is expanding from its original beginning source when it was first created. It accelerates the expansion of all that exists in the universe at an accelerating rate. The dark matter is the…..its existence is what makes it possible and it is what has puzzled scientists – where there is no entropy, just acceleration of matter, as it expands outward.
If I understand you, are you saying that the characteristic of expansion is that, over time and space, it increases its velocity?
Han: Yes.
Thank you. A question about dark matter: We (humans) have been using a dedicated telescope to try to map a general picture of the universe and the map that we have come up with look rather like a neural network with long interconnecting filaments between solar systems and galaxies. It’s the current belief that dark matter is what allows this to happen -- that it provides a kind of base for attracting stars and galaxies and larger systems. The overall picture seems to be one of interconnectiveness. Would you comment on that?
There are many nurseries for stars where many stars are created in the same nebulous cloud. These naturally form together as the masses in these nebulous (clouds) contract, becoming more dense, and then create nuclear fusion to ignite as stars. These nurseries naturally form in clusters as the universe, itself, through dark matter continues to expand and accelerate, spreading outward, like an explosion. Where the dust and the matter of space condense it changes in mid-explosion. If one could imagine in the analogy of an explosion in several seconds with the expansion of the universe in billions of years, earth time, the birth (or burst), in the stars change and evolve, morph into forms stars which create more matter and process the matter from which all building blocks of the universe exist, including the blocks of life. The positions of these stars naturally are created from broad areas of nebulous clouds and that is the explanation for the accumulation of stars sometimes. There are areas of space that are rather void of stars. This is rare and, in time, will permeate everywhere. The mass that comes from the original focus point where the dark matter entered, the other universe gave birth to this universe. It is a natural process. The universe in this dimension will be seem to be infinite but it is still expanding and what is beyond is still unknown, even to us.
Is there some kind of a connection within a solar system or galaxy, some kind of energy connection of what we might term “lay lines” for instance, between our planets, other than the connection of gravity?
There is the gravity that connects the stars and the planets and ultimately the galaxies and there is also a connection of dark matter that is less conspicuous in binding and connecting together, like a form of gelatin or gelatin material around a galaxy and the dark matter is this gelatin. It holds in place the more conspicuous parts of matter, binding and holding it together and moving. Everything is moving. The parts of the universe we see are held together by this dark matter in a loose fluid that much like a cloud, an invisible cloud that pulls the galaxy together. At the other end, in the center of the galaxy is often the black hole which acts as an anchor which all other objects orbit around and this creates a suspension matter, (dark matter) around the circumference of the galaxy and the dark center create the vehicle for which gravity and matter can move in a uniform pattern.
Thank you. I heard a comment on the radio that there is either a comet or an asteroid headed toward earth and behind it is a planet that may have been caught up in our orbit before. Do you know something about a rather long term journey of a planet that is actually coming in behind one of these objects that may affect life as we know it on earth?
No. There is a comet approaching within 90 million miles. It will pass harmlessly, though close, it is not a concern for us and for this planet.
A question about solar flares – apparently our sun has some long quiet cycles and it seems to be an indicator of an unusual large flare to come. Do you think that is accurate?
The sun seems to go in a 13 year cycle and sun flares are very distinct and large events on the star. It affects the magnetic fields of various planets orbiting around it with large iron deposits such as earth and particularly Jupiter. Jupiter is almost a solar system in itself. It creates a very dynamic field as a result. It is part of the cycle and is not too unique in this activity.
Can we expect any large solar flares in the direction of this planet?
Yes. It will, from time-to-time, flares will arise which will affect your atmosphere and communications and it will, these will pass.
The other being who came with you, would you care to give us a name that we might use?
Steve: He is reluctant but his name is, his name is……
Second Entity: I am trying to remember.
If it intrudes upon you, you can give us what you might call a “handle” which is just a temporary name to facilitate communication.
Steve: It is Lor or Sor. Han and Lor.
Alright. We quite gladly turn over the communication to you to give you an opportunity to speak on any subject. Or, ask us questions, if you like. That is for both of you.
Steve: They are looking at each other. Lor is looking at Han on this.
Han: We are concerned for the increased violence in certain areas of your planet. It is concern for the peace of your world. In Switzerland there is an accelerator where you are experimenting with matter and it is interesting how you are making strides in understanding the universe with your crude instruments. We applaud you for your work in learning about the universe. You are on the right track and it indicates that part of your species is capable of knowledge while other parts of the planet seem to be regressing backwards. There are places where there are upheavals and change and other places where important strides are made in the benefit of human kind. They (mankind) are going through some ominous times but ultimately there will be positive progress in many decades in your understanding of science and planet. Not so much a question as a comment. We watch with interest at how man and woman conduct themselves socially on the planet. The beings who conduct abductions still wish to interfere and we work to inhibit that activity. It is an on-going struggle. We do not conduct hostile activity toward them. We just apply pressure toward them to desist from this. It does not often work.
May I ask a question about evolution?
Han: Yes.
Mankind, of course, has risen and fallen probably numerous times on this planet in terms of building up society and then the societies coming apart. I thought, initially, that evolution was a condition that was on-going and continually improving, but I have also heard of the term “devolution” meaning that we, as a species, go back to the bottom of the barrel and repeat the process. Do we have to continue to learn the same lessons again and again and why is it that we do not remember the lessons of our forefathers?
Evolution is a continuing process. It branches like a tree. Some branches grow strong. Other branches wither and die and the gestalt energy focuses toward life. The parts that are not successful will wither away. Morally, man has made much progress in the last century. It has reduced oppression, equal rights for women, it has tried to keep a moral compass in its “biance” but that has often failed too. You are in a dynamic time which is why we are present in our observation. These are exciting times and dangerous times and fruitful times and it will be our purpose, at times, to try to influence your planet’s people so they do not make the same mistakes that we did. We do not wish to interfere but we wish to guide and nurture as one would a plant in a garden
Well, we certainly need it.
Han: It is a time of transition for your world.
There was a question I had forgotten to write down. You said earlier that you have taken some samplings from here of various life forms, various species, and moved them to other areas of the universe to try to get them to adapt and grow. Has that been a fairly successful program?
Yes. There are places where terra forming of planets has occurred. The genetic material is patterned from its original sample and created on a mass scale and over hundreds of years planets can be created where they have patterns of life similar to earth and similar to our world that will make visitation by life as we know it. That matrix will be able to thrive. We can move forests the way you move plants in our garden and create the atmosphere and the conditions for this. It is a part of the process of creating new home worlds for our species and other species with similar life patterns and cycles for life they create.
How long have you been taking samples from this particular planet?
Han: Fairly recently, only the last million years.
I have to tell you that it brings relief to me to know that some of these species have gone off planet and are continuing on in their life cycle. Thank you for that.
These species do not dominate life where it already exists. They tend to change other worlds so they do not displace other forms that already exist and have either been already been planted by other species or have grown naturally on their own. The process of life in the universe is everywhere. Often planets can be made to where this process can be accelerated for our own purposes. This is why we often take samples from your planet too. There are also samples of other worlds that have been planted here too.
Could you give us some examples or describe a few of them?
A number of trees and plants. Many of these come from jungle areas and they have thrived. Many of these are used help enrich the oxygen levels on your planet. It distresses us that, in areas such as the Amazon, many of these same plants are being displaced by deforestation.
Yes, we are all sadly aware of that.
Some plants and animals in the sea are originally from other worlds but only the ones that are compatible here with the ecological life systems that are here.
We have a few life forms here that we consider prehistoric such as the cycad or, for instance, the alligator. For us, they have been here a long, long time. Some reeds with black stripes and are very ancient, from what you are saying could be from somewhere else. A million years seems like a long time to us, but not to you, I’m sure. Do you have any questions, particularly social questions that we may be of service in answering?
Han: You (mankind) let fear control you too much. Part of this we understand might to due to the limited ability of your species to communicate with each other.
Yes. I think that creates a sense of aloneness and therefore the fear is exacerbated.
Han: We wish to understand more about that.
It is also bound up in the belief that there are not enough resources for everyone, which, of course is not true. So there are beliefs that are part of our makeup that get in our way and, also, the belief that we stand alone in this world and must make our own way. That creates loneliness and, therefore, there is no attempt to communicate using higher facilities, telepathy, or whatever. There is a tendency to stand silent and draw false conclusions because we do not have (all of the) facts. One can garner a lot of misinformation from fear and it is certainly not useful. As more and more entities come and talk to us and as mankind becomes more and more aware that there are a lot more possibilities I hope to see some growth.
Han: There is growth. Many are impatient because your technology creates an artificial sense of high speed, change, when it is your species that should change too, but it must do so at its own rate. Technology creates a false expectation that you are more advanced than you really are. You have many communication devices, yet you lack on an intimate level which telepathy facilities, a calming in which all know of each other and the well being of each other - on many levels that is often difficult to for humans to do. This because of the limiting senses that you have as a species. We have a higher sense, a comprehensive sense, not a higher sense, where there is a level of understanding between us that has made misunderstandings less common and it makes our society less war-like because we can understand each other on a more intimate basis.
When your species was young, so long ago, and you had technology that was perhaps starting to outstrip the cultural evolution, at that point, and we are at that point now, were we are physically not able to handle and process so much information in a comfortable way, did your species use some kind of artificial implants into your brains to enable your species to process information more rapidly?
Our level of communication is a broader bandwidth as you might say where we have many levels of communication over the volume of communication in its subtle forms. The exchange between us is greater. Part of this has been the evolution of our species and our education and it can seem in contrast to your species. It makes it frustrating but we understand where you are coming from and, in time, you will achieve that higher capacity for communication at an organic level not technological and it is the technology that shows you that, sometimes, you are not as communicative as you think you are.
Such irony!
In time, the technology shows the desire, the direction and the expression of where you wish to go. So, on that optimistic note, that will show you that your intentions are good; that you are creating in a technological way, an artificial means to facilitate what we do already organically through evolution. At times we have used implants on occupants or people to help ourselves understand you, to know your senses, to know your strengths and limitations, and to understand your way of life. Other species have used implants to track in their means to take people and remove samples of them for use.
Can you tell me at what point Steve was changed? What point in time? He seems to have had some kind of addition done. Apparently he has had a little genetic modification done. Do you have any idea when that was done…in his lifetime, or perhaps before?
Han: He has an insight and an openness to us. He is sympathetic and has a perception of the world that others do not often have. And in that form, he makes himself receptive to us and to you. He does this in …..he did have a preexisting condition to facilitate this. What made this possible was probably due to us from an earlier parents and they …Steven’s parents had a difficult time having offspring and, in time, that changed and it was a moment where that trait was already existent in him at birth that made him more receptive to those around him and to the stars in the sky. He sees the world in pessimistic terms but he feels sometimes he does not belong here, that maybe his life would have been different …that he is slightly different but still apart of this world. But he still cannot understand many things about his species and the ways of this world. This is not uncommon.
There is a person, a being who came with you, does he have any questions? I am getting ready to close this session.
Lor is observing and the questions it has have been translated through telepathic means to Han. Han is doing the main communication. Some of Han’s thoughts are from Lor and Lor is curious and present and is also enjoying this time. He is happy about this. Han invited him along but respectfully he is allowing Han to be the focus for him too. In our species this is uncommon. If it seems like the individual’s thoughts can still be expressed through a representative quite efficiently in tone, intellect and thought - more precisely than humans would. Often humans do not represent the thoughts of others in a group so precisely.
I am sure that’s true. It’s time for me to bring Steve back. I hope that you will meet with us again. I find this exchange to be heartwarming a very useful. I invite you to meet with us again. Thank you and Good Day.
Han: The contacts between you and Han are of equal feeling as it has been to you. He is very positive, encouraging and very interesting and there is no deception. There is just one of openness and acceptance and this is as it should be.
Steve was brought back from his induction.
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Post by Steve on Aug 22, 2011 23:17:46 GMT -6
The kind of creepy thing is..other things use it too so a couple of 'prayers' of protection wouldn't be a bad thing. What is very helpful (as far as I'm concerned) is that Steve has Mary to record and then transcribe everything he's saying. In lab conditions she would be his 'control' and I think it's very helpful to have one. Steve, I don't see how this would diminish your effect as an investigator, rather it would help you catch nuances you might have missed before. Gives you more to ask and other directions to pursue. As for being someone without 'experiences' ..sometimes people don't know that for years. We need to stay skeptical enough to challenge but open minded enough to accept possibilities. I always ask for protection about some things. Mary also says she will not work with any 'being' that shows the slightest compunction to do harm. She says if she encounters such, she kicks them out. Really! Steve
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