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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2011 10:29:57 GMT -6
There's an old saying...something about the more I learn the dumber I realize I am. I'm having problems with a bunch of sensory overload ..going in too many directions at once I suppose. I've been reading several books by people who are either mediums and connect with those who have 'passed over' or by those who have died and returned. They all have common ground yet none are quite identical. The common themes are of a 'heaven', and they all mention angels as spiritual beings not as 'aliens'. I've about come to the conclusion that those who have seen are given to see what they need to see..not all that there is to see. I believe all of these 'explorers'. I also believe, at least some extent, the things that Steve's friend is saying..but I also feel that his message is just short of being 'complete'..like we are no where near ready for some revelations. He seems to be 'careful' in his choice of sharing, not wanting to push some 'overload' of information maybe I person could develop a schism here between what is a real part of OUR heritage and spiritual evolution and what belongs to other races throughout the universe. I think it might be important to strike a balance between what we believe in ourselves to be true and what we might take in from others. Sort of like Christian versus Hindu...or Mormon or Muslim. They differ, these beliefs, but I don't think for their differences that they are wrong..just unique unto the necessity of the soul. We are not them..we are us..unique and individual and I think it's important to love that about ourselves..we are not tied telepathically for a reason I think..less like a 'collective' we would develop more on a personal level or quest of individuality. I like that about ourselves..and in fact to be honest..it's the one thing I'd never want to see people lose..that which makes us...us.
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Post by Steve on Sept 15, 2011 14:43:25 GMT -6
Thanks for these comments. They are always so thoughtful. I am flattered these posts are pondered so. As well as wondering what others think about all this.
I agree Jo, Han seems careful in what he shares, giving insight, yet not the whole answer. It is not ever to be evasive, but giving us the respect and credit to form our own interpretations and views. Knowing more appropriately in the proper manner will unfold for us 'in time'.
Han is also not too specific about the 'afterlife', and concedes their is a greater power spiritually which encompasses all. If Han used the term 'myth' to explain some human 'beliefs', it was probably mindful if God created humans and everything else, humans also tend to create Gods in return - in effort to find their own limited rational understanding about a higher power they cannot ever fully comprehend. I think Han's species understands this too, as they also ponder the same or similar eternal questions.
I think it was interesting when Han talked about the origin of his own species, he at one point mentioned his species had both common qualities with many other off world species, but also mentioned some genetic roots 'unique' to his. Did a unexpected egocentric old fashion pride emerge there very briefly?
I get the sense from Han that Earth and human evolutionary development has it's own original line. But one influenced from outside sources to a limited degree later. Earth and humanity like a unique wine from a special region. A Burgundy were conditions gives the wine it's own special characteristics, but the original stock along the way was grafted with other roots to form a special 'variety vintage' too somehow.
During the induction, Mary remarked how I am already during the induction process beginning to describe certain things, she said that was unusual if I understand her correctly. I remarked during the induction how my hands and arms become heavy too. Mary mentioned this is a natural thing that occurs under hypnosis.
During the induction, I was beginning to view Han, Mary, and I in the same room (in this case the scene was Mary's living room). These sessions are conducted over the phone, Mary & I live about an hour or more apart by car. Where Han comes from?... who knows! In the induction, I could see the three of us together in the same scene. I was relaxed laying on Mary's couch, Han sitting on the nearby piano seat next to Mary's piano, and Mary conducting the session from her leather easy chair forming the third corner of the conversation. I am talking with Mary, but the real conversation is between Mary and Han.
Visualizing that scene remotely was new, along with seeing Han's full body image for the first time. Mary is most happy I can seem to describe in such detail. This just seems to come naturally to me, whether consciously or subconsciously.
The Star Trek reference is interesting Pauline. I am familiar with the Star Trek concept about beaming for transporting both the story characters and the story itself. My impression from Han about beaming and movement through walls is closer best I can describe to the man on the team in the first Mission Impossible movie. A hacker who can remotely for his team open certain doors, operate elevators, monitor cameras. In Han's case, he is describing other aliens - Grays abducting humans, 'hacking physical matter', to facilitate their own ends.
Han seems to be sharing with us we are part of something much bigger, while sensitive & careful not to make us seem 'smaller' as the result.
Steve
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2011 17:14:37 GMT -6
I like how he described the telepathy and the ability to communicate with those of the past.
When I have "communicated" with spirits before, it was just like telepathy with a living person... I just had to "shift" my mind into a different state. It's difficult to explain because many psychics consider me to be a "feral" psychic (without any formal training). The way he describes the inter-connectiveness of his species is exactly what many refer to as the human "Collective unconsciousness"... except it is a CONSCIOUS interaction with these beings! Simply fascinating... and true from my experience.
It makes me a little upset that Han states that humans don't realize we have this ability. I do... but my telepathy is extremely limited. I am a receiver... not a very good transmitter. Transmitting seems to take up a whole lot more energy and is extremely draining. Trying to plant a thought into the head of another is extremely difficult... particularly if the person is not very telepathically receptive to begin with... "Open-mindedness"- or the lack thereof- is another way to put it. Open-minded people are easier to read and easier to plant thoughts into than others.
Jo: Those psychic medium books you have been reading- perhaps they refer to these "spiritual beings" or "Angels" as such because they are not physically tangible during contact. When dealing with the human mind, the collective unconsciousness or the wireless telepathic internet whatever you want to call it, it is not a "tangible" experience... even if these entities do have physical bodies either in the present, past or future. The CONTACT with these entities is "spiritual" because it is not tangible... it exists in the powers of the mind... if that makes any sense...
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Post by Steve on Sept 19, 2011 1:54:28 GMT -6
Another session this afternoon. Number 8. Every Sunday, being transcribed now. Han comments to Mary in session VIII about the Anunnaki, radioactive Moai, the cycles of Earths climate, and just perhaps...long ago...the speed of light was once much faster..... Steve
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Post by Steve on Sept 20, 2011 17:29:53 GMT -6
HAN Through Steve _________ under Hypnosis Therapist: Mary ______ September 18, 2011
Session VIII September 18, 2011
Steve was inducted. He begins describing what he sees during the initial induction. For this induction it was suggested to him that he is lying on a hammock in Tahiti. Therapist requested than Han step forward when he is ready to communicate.
Steve: I see him. He’s……I’m lying on my hammock in Tahiti. I am now on my side reclining on the hammock. He is to my right and Han is sitting on the sand next to me, next to the hammock. He sits on a mound of black sand. His legs are kind of semi-folded Indian style. He sits facing me and we are looking at each other. I reach out and we clasp hands, greeting as friends. He takes the other hand and he starts rocking the hammock. (Therapist laughs) He is like an old pal. He brings his arm back to his lap and he is sort of waiting for the three of us, when it is the appropriate time. It’s strange seeing him in this tropical setting and it is also not strange. Actually, it is very beautiful and it seems like, why would it be any different here or anywhere else.
Is he alone this time?
No. There is another who is sitting Indian style too. Actually there are two more and they are sitting Indian style and they are behind him sitting on the sand in the shade in the Palm trees and they form a kind of a long triangle with 2 close together, sitting side-by-side in the background and Han is in the front near me in the hammock. They are rather distant but they are attentive should Han call them. That’s what is happening.
Well, we welcome them all. Han, are you ready to begin?
Yes.
EARTH HISTORY
Are you familiar with the term “Mt. Olympus?”
Yes. It is an old, not by our standards, but old for Earth standards of a mythology in an area of the planet known by you as the Mediterranean.
Did it actually exist or was it just a good story?
There was contact with entities and humans. The mythology grew out of that contact. The entities did not intend to become or assume an image of the mythological characters with great powers. It was good story that grew out of contact with humans and visitors, then in passing on the stories over time, they assumed the part of gods with their advanced abilities.
Hence the name Zeus?
One of many. Zeus, Athena, and others in various human stories. They are mainly, much like the modern superheroes of your present time with different roles and abilities working together. A class to themselves, they fired human imagination and gave them a sense that there was something greater than themselves that looks over them. There seems to be a human need for this. In many cultures, they feel that there is something greater than they are who must control the weather and the stars to give them good crops and abundance of life. They look to a mother and father in the sky who, for a child, is culturally still growing. It gives them comfort and solace and peace in their own wellbeing and often entities from other worlds inadvertently fulfill this role. Sometimes they do so indirectly. It is part of the human gift for imagination. Imagination is is important as knowledge.
Is it not the precursor to creation?
Yes. Without the ability to imagine one cannot create.
One mystery for mankind has been the following: there have been a number of walls, pyramids, even a castle built with extremely large, heavy stones. Can you tell us what mechanism has been used to enable the lifting and placing of these stones? Let’s say the pyramids for instance.
Present man, in interpreting these structures, often does not comprehend the extent of time spent - the abilities of early man perhaps assisted by advanced out-world cultures, to create these structures for their own purposes. Many times in history, human knowledge has ebbed and flowed in knowledge. Many abilities and knowledge are lost, only to be regained later. Often human pride will mark itself by thinking man has innovated new concepts when actually the concepts may have been used in earlier times just as well. It will often be a surprise when abilities that seem incomprehensible to present understanding of the past are achieved. The sense of speed in which new modern structures can be built creates a false expectation by present human knowledge that if earlier structures could be built just as rapidly, then it must be impossible. In fact, many of these structures were very noble designs. Through innovations, both human and non-human assistance was able to help create these lasting structures that have withstood the ebb and flow of knowledge of how they were created. They withstand the test of time and entropy, even when the tides of knowledge are lost and then regained. Many physical techniques of advanced tooling, levers and gravity can be used in an elaborate fashion to help make these structures a reality.
Where alien assistance has helped through advanced ability to have tools that are harder than the substances being fashioned. We have been able to provide without humans knowing, given them certain assistance in their construction. We enjoy watching humans create their structures. It was an expression and a test of their (human) present knowledge and it gives us a gauge in understanding the limits of their development over time.
When they use materials, are the materials selected specifically for easier lifting using alien technology? For example, Coral Castle, it was noted that a certain coral was used for building blocks. He managed to lift these blocks and built the castle by himself. If he had used different materials, would it have presented different problems in lifting them?
If I understand, coral was used as part of a mixture like concrete to help develop a rigid, strong structure. Coral could have been used in this.
Yes. It could have been added, but I think the castle I am referring to in Florida had huge blocks of coral, placed one on top of another without anything in between the stones. Would coral have been easier to lift because of its properties than perhaps some other kind of stone?
Our understanding of coral is that it has very strong but sometimes has brittle characteristics. One of its features is that it is not as dense and maybe, with proper care, would have been easier to transport in order to position where it could be of best benefit to the structure. It has many open pores and elements that make it light and strong, like a sponge, but like a hard sponge, rigid. This is well known already. It would be easier to move in certain construction settings.
Perhaps the individual who moved these stones, and he did work by himself, used something akin to humans sitting around a table, placing their hands on a table and the table beginning to vibrate and sometimes lifting of its own accord. Would that be a type of system that might be used for lifting?
We use a certain telepathic energies to levitate. This is possible. It may have been used in this situation.
Can you tell us something about the origin and purpose of the place we call Stonehenge?
Stonehenge is well known to us. Many crop circles are often near this situation. It is a source of energy and magnetic fields based on the mineral content in the soil. It acts as a kind of lighthouse or navigation beacon for us often in navigating to this planet or navigating within this planet. When you mention Stonehenge a smile comes to me because of my familiar acquaintance with it. It is an ancient calendar sitting on top of an energy engine that comes from within the Earth itself that is a source of such magnetic fields. It is interesting that humans had been fortuitous enough to place Stonehenge in that location underneath such a beacon that we use.
Some humans are sensitive to the earth field energies.
That is correct, the earth field energies.
Have you ever heard of a place called Hypoboria, a land with 24 hour-a-day sunshine?
No.
Are you familiar with a being known as Enoch? He was apparently contacted by some higher order being who took him on a tour of the heavens and other realities. The book concerning his travels was written by an order called the White Brotherhood.
No.
Do you know of the statues on a place called Easter Island?
Yes.
Can you tell us anything about those statues?
They are one more homage by man to the sky and those who came from the sky. Many of the edifices on Easter Island are radioactive. Others are not. They come from a place on the island where certain areas have many uranium deposits surprisingly. Yet all within a small proximity from the original basin, the area of the ground where the stones were originally extracted and transported from. They have been radioactive for many years. These are from the natural deposits. Some form invisible markers for us as natural wave points. They emanate energies that are not well known to humans but they help us to navigate. At the same time for monuments to an earlier time on the island that is known as Easter Island, other cultures migrated there and like the Atlantis that we discussed earlier, so there was another advanced culture on that island too, independent of the earlier discussion about Atlantis. In several places around the Earth, in Europe, the Mediterranean and South America, there were many advanced cultures that developed independently on islands from the main continents where the right conditions for life and intellectual development were able to create a great abundance of knowledge, information and abilities to accomplish certain astonishing tasks by human standards.
Thank you. The radioactivity was a surprise.
ZETA RETICULI HISTORY
What does your culture value most?
We value knowledge and exploration. We are primarily explorers but we are also nurturing of new life and new places to develop comfortable living areas on planets for successful advancement of societies. We feel like we are developers as well as explorers. We take pride in this. It is not one where we are displacing one culture for another. It is not a hostile advancement. It is just the natural advancement of a species over many places of the galaxy that have the room for living space. We do not displace our culture for another or dominate one. There is plenty of room for all and the ability to travel great distances is just as easy as traveling relatively short distances. There is plenty for trade, exchange of ideas, information, and material things that each need and share in their development.
How does your species perceive species with greater intelligence than your own?
We mark our place and in consideration of life civilizations who are less advanced than us, we are mindful of them when we make contact with higher advanced forms. We understand that often, they do not share certain things but only do so at certain times when it is appropriate for us to advance forward ourselves. In exchange, we pass that policy down in our contact with less advanced forms. We are mindful of how life and cultures develop. We have often seen advanced forms where they evolve beyond physical instrumentalities. We have many abilities to telepathically communicate across great distances, planet to planet and across the land on our plant, or within this planet (Earth), but we are limited to certain physical material limitations. Many advanced forms have achieved a merging of energy where they are a consciousness enveloped in energy and the ability to travel almost instantly, almost in an omnipresent way about the universe. This is what some humans would regard as God. While we feel that there are higher advanced spiritual forms, these are actual former life forms like us who have evolved to an even higher level where they have become energy and light and have done so intimately interconnected to the forces of the universe to where certain processes in the universe incorporate their higher intelligence and wisdom. This is a great mystery to us too. With their intelligence, they use the basic forms of matter of the universe as their clay to create on a level that is incomprehensible to us.
Do you think that their greater intelligence has made them more compassionate?
They have become more compassionate and more discompassionate. Compassionate in a broader sense. Discompassionate for the individual because their scope and vision does not incorporate individual planets and the individual life form. These advanced spiuritual energy life forms are symbiotic with physical advanced life forms in assisting or accelerating the natural process of life in the Universe. The natural process of raw matter created within stars to the raw matter of advanced intelligence that comprehends and is self aware everywhere. Everything in the Universe, from the most fundamental to the most spiritually advanced life energies are all part of a greater Universal ecology, each with an important part to contribute.
Concerning lasers, does your species use lasers?
Light amplification, in its frequencies is used as a tool in many things such as communication, transport and measurement. Like many light sources or energies often beamed from craft to transport our beings and other beings with similar abilities. Seen often by humans as a great white light, is a form of technology used for transport of short distances. A form of Lasers are also used for discrete communication where signals are not broadcast randomly. Sent to a specific destination for discrete communication between species and space craft. It is also used in many tools for healing and surgeries. Many species use similar devices for healing or for dissection of animals and many other tasks. Lasers are also used as a source for creating primitive fusion. That, in time, humans themselves will learn. There will be a point where more energy will be created but it will take more time before humans have the ability to create a small sun and fusion energy. This will take much time.
Is the Earth in a state of global warming or is it simply getting ready to move into a small ice age?
The Earth moves through climate cycles. We have noticed this on other planets as well. Part of this is due to the star and part is due to the local climatic conditions on any planet. Earth is at a warming and cooling cycle. It is anticipated that the Earth will go through a warming cycle. This in turn will reduce the polar caps and create more water surface area. This in turn will cool the planet and accelerate and initiate a minor ice age. It is one that is not too extensive as past ice ages have been.
Are we talking hundreds of years here or thousands of years?
In thousands of years. It is the normal cycle. The cycle, however, has been accelerated by man’s influence on the planet. His technology accelerates the heating and cooling process, making this warming period more acute than others and creating more rapid change. This is due to the technology that was developed by man in the last 150 years.
You are familiar with the Aborigines in Australia. I understand that when they miss someone who has gone far away and they want them to come home, they “sing” them home, using their telepathic abilities. Are you familiar with this kind of musical telepathy?
The Aborigines are often like our cousins in the way we regard them. It is ironic that they are often by their fellow human cultures regarded as very primitive. We regard them as very advanced. This irony would astonish other humans. They are more akin to us and similar to us in how we communicate with and reach out to others and our communities across space. In a greater sense, it is with affection that we see the Aborigines telepathically more advanced than other species on your planet.
I see their advancement not only in being telepathic but also in their living with Earth in a sustainable way, living easily with nature, without the heavy carbon footprint of many other cultures.
They live simply. It is a way that is in harmony with the planet like many other so called primitive cultures. Native Americans regarded the Earth as their Mother in their culture, as does the Aborigine. They are part of the land. They do not feel they are possessive of certain lands. They are part of the land and the land is part of them and they are at one in the relationship. It is not dissimilar on other planets and in other cultures. They do not have certain advantages in technology but they are advanced in other ways. Our culture, in a way, reflects both. Some Earth cultures use the telepathic connection while others use technology. Our culture is able to integrate both of these assets into one. In a way it helps define who we are. So it is with respect and affection that we see the Aborigines, in many ways, as an advanced life form compared to those around them who do not regard them in the same way. This is part of the way humanity is. In time, an amalgamation of various values will create a form of human that will integrate all these strengths and values.
SPIRITUALITY
CONTACT
You probably know of the species that we call Annunaki. Do you know why they came to earth?
The Annunaki are part of on-going continuous contact at various times with various out world civilizations. They provided early technology and skills to enhance the skills that humans already possessed and combined, created some remarkable feats.
Were they interested in any minerals on our planet?
Yes, in exchange. They were interested in many ores, gold and other minerals in forming their technology that are used in their craft and other instrumentalities. Gold is an excellent conductor and its does not have (for the Annunaki) the mineral material wealth that it does, but provides a technological means. It’s used for technological purposes, I suppose that creates its own value.
Were there any particular stones that they were interested in?
Not in particular other than just for breaking down minerals into their basic compounds and elements for use in manufacturing in Annunaki technology. In exchange, the Annunaki provided comfort and security and certain tools and enabled man to live a more comfortable life in exchange out of gratitude. The Annunaki are very considerate and fair minded in any exchange though they do not have a reputation for exploiting primitive life forms.
Are they still coming to this planet?
Yes, but in a discreet fashion, not so overtly. This is one of their way stations.
[Dulce, New Mexico and Santa Fe, New Mexico: I have experienced a conglomeration of lights in the sky over the low lying hills. Are there any underground facilities there that are not man made?
There are regions of New Mexico, due to their remoteness, which are used. For hidden facilities that are not man made, they are often used as places for unknown purposes much the way craft can pass through solid matter and mountains. I spoke of this much earlier in our discussions. Many of these areas underground are in this area, particularly Dulce and to the north of Dulce. Many humans with a higher sense of perception have often congregated in these areas, sensing beyond the normal human ability. They, too, realize there is significance to these areas. It is interesting that later, many atomic tests were done in other areas in the vicinity, hundreds of miles away, but still in what humans call the neighborhood.
As you probably have heard, New Mexico is called the “Land of Enchantment” and anyone who is paying attention, senses a shift in vibration and almost a kind of excitement and awe. It seems to be quite a special place.
Our telepathic abilities pick up on this too, to even a greater degree. It is a natural haven for many energies. Much like certain humans like to go to warm places to relax, we go to places such as Dulce due to the energy fields that seem to emanate from there. It is on a wavelength beyond some humans, but not as few as they suspect. They may unconsciously congregate there for reasons that they do not understand, but it is the same energies that draw them that also draw us. New Mexico is a special place.
THE UNIVERSE
OTHER
Just a little question about your biology; in the diet you described, did you evolve beyond needing to have teeth?
We do have a type of teeth. They are smaller and there are more of them than compared to human teeth. They are used for mastication. Our mouth (as depicted in Steve’s drawing) show a long slim neck and a large mouth and it is important that food be masticated thoroughly to enable swallowing down a slim esophagus and then down into the body. The teeth are not anywhere used for any aggressive purposes maybe when we were a primitive life form. We evolved into the state we are now. Our mouths have changed to enable a more suitable current diet of soft foods, fruits and vegetables from various places. Apples are a delicacy that we know earth is the source of, including many other good things and we have transplanted these to other worlds. We associate Earth with many good things.
Please describe the culture of another human species that lives in our galaxy.
There is a strain of humanoid that often is interpreted by humans on this planet as the Nordics due to their skin and hair color. A species that is very handsome by some standards. They are part of the larger community of life in the universe. They also often interact with humans. One who was called Travis Walton, a contactee, had an encounter. He encountered grays and the Nordics. It was a Nordic who was able to make Mr. Walton comfortable in his stressful situation during his encounter.
How would you describe the Nordic’s cultural outlook?
Hey are an advanced culture compared to Earth culture. Nordics are between us and humans. They have the ability of interstellar travel and use it quite readily. They (their culture) might be considered a utopia by Earth standards. They also have their deficiencies. They have increased to a level where their life and their energies encompass whole star systems now. Instead of just energy sources from a planet, they have achieved a higher level of technology and infrastructure so that they live abundantly on many planets. Their societies seem to promote well being and a sense of …… this is difficult to describe. Using a behavior trait of humans, I think it could be described as Nordics being enamored with themselves. Vain? There is a sense of pride in themselves and in their culture that can be disconcerting to other cultures, but it is tolerated. They are very impressed with themselves. This might be a good term to use.
What do they value most in their culture?
They value a sense of beauty, aesthetics and wealth and providing a good foundation for their culture. They feel they are very successful. They have a sense of pride in their achievements.
OPEN SESSION FOR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS
Is there anything that you want to talk about or add as we start to move this session toward its close, including your friends?
Our friends have sat silently in the back. They wish to monitor the contact. They see that it is beneficial and encourage further contact. They give their approval. They are comfortable with the setting and enjoy contact with you, Mary and with you Steve. Steve is going through a time of great transition. He has been a useful conduit for this communication and we are mindful of the changes he is going through and his life will be different in a positive way. It is suggested that he hold fast and be patient and to look to his hope and faith in the future as we also wish for Mary. These are wonderful times and we look forward to further communication. That is all I have to wish for now.
Thank you. We are very grateful. Until the next time.
(Steve is awakened from his induction.)
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Post by skywalker on Sept 20, 2011 19:29:27 GMT -6
That was interesting about the radioactive statues on Easter Island. I have been reading about that island for years and I had never heard anything about any radiation but after looking it up just now I found out that it is true. I guess that shouldn't be surprising though. Uranium is actually a lot more common than most people realize...it is more plentiful than tin and there is plenty of that lying around. It's amazing to me how much I can still learn just by taking part in a forum every day. This is more educational (and entertaining) than school ever was.
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Post by Steve on Sept 30, 2011 18:36:09 GMT -6
Of Note: This gives every indication of talking to a kind, very intelligent being. I noticed that one of the others of his kind stepped forward and spoke for a little bit. Mary and I were struck by Han being sensitive about discussing his age. During this sesion also Mary asked Han about George Lobuono. (session conducted on September 26, 2011). No one anticpated happily George joining our forum days later. I chock it up to positive 'resonance'. ;D Enjoy! Steve HAN Through Steve __________ under Hypnosis Therapist: Mary _____r Session IXSeptember 26, 2011 Steve was inducted. As Steve is beginning the induction process, Han is invited to choose the place of the meeting. Steve begins describing what he sees. Steve: Oh, there are beautiful colors, all around and to the side. We are on a sandy beach next to a stream. The canyon provides isolation and it is safe for us all alone. It is a place hard to get to by man. Is it day or night time?Steve: It’s the late morning and we are in the shadow, in the cool shadow (of the canyon walls). You look up and the sky is vivid blue and clear and it’s warm. I can hear the stream next to us, going through the canyon and see the soft beaches along the side of the stream. It’s lower in the stream and we are sitting together on the beach. The canyon walls are red, orange and sand. It creates this cathedral like feeling around us. We feel so cool and protected, where no one can interfere and we can be alone. No hikers will stumble onto us. Han feels protected here and I feel very privileged to be permitted to be there with him. There is another being with him in the background. They seem to be connected telepathically. The feeling that other aliens are here is not meant because they don’t trust Han. It’s just that it is the way they are. Everyone is with everybody else, so their idea of privacy is different from ours. The fact that others are there is of no consequence. It just gives them a sense of belonging and safety being on another planet. You might say a ‘buddy’ system, even for them. I also sense that at times, in ancient times, Indians enjoyed this place.Steve: It’s a sacred place for native Americans and also a sacred place for Han. He likes the serenity and solitude there. There is a silence there that is not only appealing to humans but he (Han) is telepathically attuned so he can feel alone in his thoughts and meditate and focus on things far beyond, where he feels at one with the universe and it is a meditating place for him. Of all the many places Han could choose in the Universe, he chooses this special place. I imagine that at night, the stars there must be breathtaking. Therapist requested than Han step forward when he is ready to communicate.Han: I am ready. EARTH HISTORYIn 1977, our array known as SETI detected a large radio wave. Do you have any idea of its source? Secondly, should we be looking at radio waves as a form of communication between planets?Radio waves are a natural part of the universe. It is a form of energy that is radiated out, some in natural forms and some in unnatural forms, created by different species. At some point radio waves are considered quaint and primitive. For some advanced forms capable of what humans would call long distance space flight, it might be overlooked or forgotten. In SETI’s case, they eventually discover an unnatural source of radio waves, one that does not follow the natural cycle or rhythm that could indicate intelligent life but it is like holding a candle next to a star. There are so many other wavelengths and means of communication. It is primitive. Not wishing to be rude or unflattering, but SETI is more, at this point, not a practical means, but it is a human beginning. It also expresses the human desire to be connected with other life in the universe which abounds around Earth. It is not capable or efficient in quick timely communication. It would take many years and decades for an exchange of conversation. There are means, now faster than light, in a physical means and a telepathic means, where it is possible to, but SETI is an early crude attempt. It might be more a random chance. , A term you call “luck” that something will be found. For the most part, life forms of an advanced nature are aware of other life that is less advanced and still evolving. We have developed forms of communications between advanced forms that are more discrete and prevent random contact, in mindful consideration of (less advanced beings) development. The technology, aside from telepathy, is it based on light?Human advanced theoretical physicists are only now beginning to comprehend light and other energies. Another is the properties of gravity. Once humans have understood the properties of gravity waves, that gravity can be folded in on itself, what will be revealed will result for humans a far higher form of technology capable of travel between stars and galaxies, but also communication and thought almost instantaneously. It is based on the broad concept of a deeper underlying resonance that exists throughout the physical Universe. It will be gravity waves traveling faster-than-light, not light energies facilitating such communication and transportation. Much of this must seem astonishing to you. We commend the human desire to connect to us. SETI is a primitive first step. But the desire to be drawn to the sky and stars is the correct and noble one in your evolution. ZETA RETICULI HISTORY: PAST, PRESENTWhat mechanism or means do you use for storage of knowledge or information that you want to keep indefinitely?We have forms of light and energy which can be contained to hold vast quantities of knowledge. In human cultural mythology, light is often seen symbolically for knowledge. This is literally true in our culture. We have forms of data and knowledge storage in light that is contained within certain forms which hold vast quantities of knowledge. Within these physical forms, much like the electrical exchanges within the human brain, knowledge is kept in memory when not in use. We in similar fashion store on a larger scale light energy and electrical impulses within forms of plasma energies. It is a more efficient use of energy and knowledge in which vast knowledge can be saved in a smaller space. This storage of knowledge we have accumulated supplements the existing higher order of thought shared telepathically within our species society: the community of mind. The social knowledge between our species saved on an organic level through our closely connected telepathic community. Certain fundamental concepts and knowledge that make us as a species who we are, our identity has been saved in a material sense. Like your libraries. Your human form repository of knowledge. We, too have libraries. These provide a backup and redundancy if our race should somehow be extinguished, the knowledge will continue and, if survivors need to access, it will be available. Concerning your skeletal structure, your bones, would we call them rounded or flat? Are they cartilage like? How are they different from ours? We have, in some ways, cartilage type structures and yet, at the same time, we have bone structures which have adapted. Our evolution came from a being - our missing link, you might say, a type of humanoid bird. To fly, this bird needed hollow bones. Over time, these bones, which were light and strong in structure for flight, adapted to a land being as we appear today as a species. Bone structures became a material that genetically was enhanced for greater strength in their density. They also have a structure that interweaves with a type of biological fabric that gives added strength and lightness to us. The lightness came from our long ago, bird-like bone structure, but in time, a type of weave like a structural fabric adapted to these bones to give them, though they seem quite small and frail, great strength as compared to human bones. It reminds me a little bit of a material we developed call Kevlar.Yes. This is a very good analogy. It is like a type of crude material you call fiber glass. There is a resin with a cloth weave. In a way, evolution has provided us with an organic additional cloth weave for greater strength, much like Kevlar. I assume that your species has a certain amount of habitat under water. If that is the case, have you found a way to breathe in the water or do you live in a habitat that has the proper atmosphere mix?It is easy to create habitats for us under water, as you refer, immersed in our planet’s oceans. We also use these habitats on Earth to conceal our presence to provide temporary way points beyond the awareness of humans to our presence. We use these habitats. We do not have the ability ourselves to breathe underwater due to our biology but we have the ability to adapt, in a sense, swim in the oceans. It requires some apparatus to do this. It is not like the oxygen that humans often carry, but we have he ability to absorb oxygen through adaptation, What is the appropriate chemical mix for you to breathe?It is not dissimilar from yours. It is with some variations. It is nitrogen and oxygen in slightly different proportions, but within livable ratios. In the ocean, our bodies often have more difficulty coping with the pressures. Often parts of our bodies have certain pockets that can be a hindrance in coping with such pressures but we can create fields around us, much like our ships when traveling through the oceans and through the Earth’s atmospheres for providing a protective field to cope with those pressures. This provides a kind of invisible diving suit you might say, in which we can swim in a protective bubble where the pressure is acceptable for our life forms. We are not good swimmers, compared to humans, but we can exist in this liquid. We mainly use these habitats to exist within and they allow us to explore areas of this planet still beyond the reach of human technology at the present time. Concerning life expectancy, your life expectancy is a thousand years or so?I am conferring with my other friend. Yes. It is acceptable to talk about this. My question is actually an extension beyond that question. Our life expectancy a 1,000 to 1,500 years in Earth time. Considering this, and the short human life expectancy, do you think we are more driven to look at our spiritual aspect because our short life spans and that your species may be less driven to look at your spiritual aspect because of your very long life span?The concept of time is relevant to each species. What is short to one maybe long to another, but it is still time. In relative terms, perhaps we have more time to contemplate a spiritual afterlife that we also believe in. It is part of the greater consciousness. Humans also share in a form of the same thing. The time seeming short to one seems short to the other. The wish to survive and cling to life is a fundamental drive and instinct of all living forms, regardless of time. Human life seems short in comparison to us but this has been of benefit to them in the greater evolutionary path for evolutionary adaptation. Humans as well as our own species may feel cheated and it is each to their own to make life as full as they can within their individual periods of time, whether considered long or short. There are life forms that live even beyond our life span. In a sense, we also have a sense of envy that they live longer. We can understand the concept. The wish for all life forms is to live fully and productively and you form a sense of connectiveness to the greater mystery of life that is part of our consciousness too. So it should be one to desire a higher quality of life, however long the quantity of life may be. Concerning deviant thoughts and behaviors, without assigning “good” or “bad” judgment, how does your species handle deviant thoughts or behavior?Deviant thought is one that we can become quickly aware of. Within the fabric of our community of mind, even our species sometimes requires specialized scientists to deal with the physical health of our species and these often require cures. Are you saying that chemical and biological differences create deviant behavior?Yes. In human terms, mental illness is a plague that encompasses a small degree of human consciousness. We have often encountered this in our contact with humans. By comparing various impressions with other human contacts, these impressions amalgamate, enabling us to see this in a larger perspective. It is also so with other species. Due to mental abilities of our species, mental illness can be more acute and of great concern. At the same time, the interconnective weave makes it much more quickly apparent and can be treated as such. Deviant behavior is defined in our values; it causes harm to others around them. Sometimes deviant behavior in its milder form can just be exploring a new life behavior which, within our social fabric we can tolerate. If it extends to where it harms others in a mental or physical and causes cruelty then this needs to be addressed within the social fabric of our society. Thank you. I do believe a little deviance is probably healthy so that one can explore a little, stretch a little and evaluate. But I do understand about excessive deviance and have a much greater affect in your culture than it would in ours.It creates diversity. When a different type of behavior is expressed, but still within the confines of interacting with other life and in kindness, in the normal expected exchange between life forms it is tolerated. Some so called deviance is welcome and is inconsequential to the greater variety and enrichment of our social behavior. Has your species evolved beyond needing any specialized defenses?In a biological sense or in a military sense? Let’s say military sense for this question.We do have the capabilities to protect ourselves against species on our same level of evolution. But it is a matter of diverting energy to other tasks. It is not the specialized apparatus that is required which often wastes resource and time to develop technologies but we can use energy and matter that can be diverted quickly, if it arises. Otherwise, the material for military offense or defense does not require large stockpiles of materials to make this possible. It can be created quickly. In the greater context of life, it is not necessary. My hope was that a species that has reached your level of knowledge would no longer need military means.In the network of life, most of our neighbors are aware of the other. We interact peaceable. The capability exists but it is not needed. But should an unknown force come within our region that does not hold our values, we could collectively develop that capability. At our current level of understanding this need does not exist. Best we understand it, your term politics is a unique human form of orchestrating selfishness. This originating from living on a planet of abundant but still limited resources and space. Though we understand this concept from interacting with your world. Advanced intelligent life is connected telepathically within a larger community where understanding and plenty exists making military forms of interaction unnecessary. Would it be alright for Steve to draw a simple star map indicating your point of origin in Zeta Reticuli? Not right now, please just imprint the map. Steve has a good visual mind.I can attempt to do so. I am putting an image into his mind. It will take some time. He needs certain precise details. He is slow to take it for an intelligent but it will be imprinted. I have shown him where his star is and where our binary stars are and the distance in light years. I think I have something for him now. He has that note. OFF HOME PLANETIf you decide to terraform a planet, how do you choose that planet? What are the criteria?There are many criteria. Some are very complex. Not all can be terraformed. The energy expended is often not worth the effort for such change. There are certain ideals that we look for……certain distances between stars and planets, a habitable zone as humans call it, that provide a range in which terraforming is more practical. It has to also have certain iron and other material deposits to provide certain gravity and also certain material means that could be converted into habitable materials that we recognize (more readily). Often terraforming is just accelerating the natural evolutionary process. Often certain planets, due to their location, are more desirable even if they have qualities that make them more difficult to terra form. Location?Location. A strategic position for either trade or communication. Often other forms can be used for terraforming to provide a place. Terraforming is to provide more dwelling space both our and other species. Has Mars moved beyond an appropriate evolutionary state for terraforming? Has it already bypassed that period when it could have easily been terraformed?It is just within the habitable range to facilitate this. Terraforming is possible for Mars. It would take great effort but it is attainable, not by humans at the present time, but it is possible for us. It would not ultimately be a planet that humans would find very comfortable, but it is possible. It requires creation of a new atmosphere and this would require a greater gravity for such a planet. This can be created by artificial means, but it would not occur naturally. Materials would need to be transformed to make an atmosphere denser to create conditions for Mars to be such. Mars was once, in its early life, a place not too dissimilar to Earth at one time. It did not have the size or mass to support an atmosphere rich like Earth’s. In this atmosphere it provided the protection from ultraviolet rays from your star in which life could develop more quickly. Mars lacked that atmosphere to do that. In a sense, Mars was like a child that, in human gestation, did not survive birth. FUTUREYes. I would think that the next huge evolutionary hurdle for your species might be moving away from the physical and into the nonphysical, but I am just surmising at this point. We hope so. We feel we have observed higher forms. It is a concept that will take a much longer time to obtain but we feel, if we are worthy in the eyes of those around us and our ultimate creator, we will be worthy for this. Hopefully, we will be a species that is compassionate and at one in peace and harmony with the universe that will hopefully make us a candidate for a higher spiritual, nonphysical life form eventually to develop in evolution. We may eventually attain that. Time will tell. It will take a longer length of time, compared to the human state of rapid development. In many ways, evolution in the universe creates primitive forms changing into self aware, intelligent individual life which again evolves into a higher inter-connective social consciousness. Evolution is often rapid in the beginning, and like the creation of the universe, it begins to slow down through entropy. In a way, evolution follows a similar line of rapid evolutionary development that spreads out broadly like a river delta of life where a sense of continuity comes. SPIRITUALITYCONTACTSteve specifically wanted to know if human beings, when abducted, are monitored afterwards.Yes, they are monitored, by the entities that conduct these illegal actions. They want to know where they are so they can be located quickly for later contacts to monitor their progress and to be able to return for additional genetic material or whatever function these entities wish. They often implant these humans in discrete places with (psychotronic) devices not recognized by humans as such. This is part of their covert process. Humans are intelligent enough to recognize these devices. The greatest advantage these criminal entities have is the great disbelief that Earth centered humans refuses to accept that these events occur. In a way, this makes their work easier. The greatest veil is from the human source and the humans’ inability to accept that contact is occurring, legally or illegally. The implants do not send out a signal. They merely enhance the brainwave frequencies that already organically exist in the abductee. It acts as an amplifier for these entities to pick up the radiating brainwave frequencies, each with their own unique identity. These provide a quick and clear identification from a reasonable distance away. It is not across space, but across what human’s call many dozens of miles away from where a signal can be detected by these entities. It is their own minds that exist in a natural state, amplified by these implants, which betray their presence to these criminals who perform these acts for selfish reasons. They do not respect humans. In a sense, we, too, have made contact with humans, much in the way we are now, but also in a setting that might be interpreted as an abduction. But, it is often to impart knowledge and to educate certain individuals we feel who are have potential for high clairvoyance and a sense of purpose and destiny to give them help to steer humanity in a direction that would eventually bring inter-consecutiveness between life forms. I think we may know one of these individuals. Are you familiar with a being known as George Lobuono who wrote a book called the Alien Mind and who also works with a telepathic group? Yes. He is an old friend. He is one of several people in that geographic area who often exchange ideas and communication. Also, he is a very interesting and sophisticated communicator. He has learned well how to exchange ideas with us. He understands (how to do) multiple levels of exchange simultaneously, much like our means of communicating. The communication I give to Steve is on a higher but still a relatively unsophisticated level at a speed that he can accept and pass on. George has had more training and experience to make multiple levels of communication possible. It’s like Steve is a 2-lane and George is a 4-lane on your road structures on your planet in which more traffic can be exchanged at the same rate of speed. He (George) is a good fellow. Often some entities are not comfortable with what he shares in his written books and others are very happy with that. Let him know that. The entities that he comes in contact with, they mean well, and they know that his intentions are good for opening an avenue for exchange. Others could also become involved if they were not so self conscious of themselves to be aware of the higher possibilities around them, they could easily communicate with us in the same way if they were so inclined and George is able to do this and he is ahead in that respect. Many years ago when I was in a state of mediation or prayer, I had the distinct feeling, a kind of visual feeling that I was being downloaded with a stream of symbols that came so fast. I suspect their source was off-world. Is that one of the ways that information is passed very quickly – in symbolic streams? Yes. The importance is to retain the data at some level, to retain what is learned, captured and what has been sent to that person. Humans respond easily to symbols and visual forms. When you meditate there is a sense of well being and beauty that comes over Mary that is quite remarkable and it is a sense that she is being open and receptive to much that is beyond in many dimensions in this universe. She is a remarkable person who feels and understands there is much beyond her and this physical world and is in contact with. This is beyond most of her fellow people. They do not comprehend and this is often the case with many who underestimate (what exists) but Mary has a gift that she rightly so is not humble about but uses the gifts that have been bestowed upon her. This allows her at some level to probably retain the many forms of symbols that have been sent to her. Often these can be mathematical or symbolic of life experiences. These can be imprinted on more people if they knew more how to be receptive as Mary is. Would these contacts have come from a specific star system? I keep imaging the Pleiades. I just see a group of stars in a magical swarm like bees and I recognize them as the Pleiades. The entities from there. I am not surprised that they would do this. They have abilities to do this. Some are higher advanced forms that even our species. Know that their intentions are wise and good and there is nothing to fear from them. They have wisdom and insights similar to ours but in some ways they are more advanced and as such, we respect that. Pleiades seem to be one of several places that these entities exist but their main home comes from what humans call the Pleiades. Thank you. Concerning the program that is called Serpo, I understand that it is still on-going, that there is still an exchange of human beings off-planet life forms. Can you tell me when the last exchange took place?The last occurred in human time line in the 1980s. This exchange is still on-going today but after the 1980s, the method changed. There were long-term visits and exchanges between our civilization and Earth civilization. Many of the humans who lived on the planet became difficult in themselves being able to live emotionally away from home. There is a sense of interconnectiveness that we understand in our species. In many ways humans are individuals which make them admirable and dangerous in that they do not have a group mentality and a sense of all things and values that interconnect them because individuals can often act rashly. It was discovered within humans that they, too, subconsciously have a sense of belonging and interconnectivenss that they underestimated and they did not realize, homesick and it affected them on a deeply emotional level at a very basic and fundamental way. They underestimated the emotional impact. In learning to travel through space, humans will learn not only the physiological challenges, but the emotional challenges of space flight. It will help them focus on what life is and what it means to each one. The challenge of space flight will bring these into focus and ultimately help, in the end, to provide great growth in an evolutionary way for humans with these challenges on a very physical, emotional and spiritual level. Serpo was a partial success. Later, in the 1980s, the conditions of the experiment were changed and modified to accommodate these unanticipated shortcomings in the eventual growth of humans in their sense of what makes them who they are. We modified the experiment for shorter term visits so that they could be returned back to their kind for re-energizing their well being and state. We can understand being so interconnected, so in consideration, the exchange times were shortened greatly, Earth years reduced to a matter of weeks and months. How many have been exchanged?Cumulatively, several hundred, in groups of 12 or more. And how are they faring once they have been returned here?Their lives are changed and they often……..their outlook has been broadened so much. At the same time, due to certain social and political constraints of human earth societies, they are at the same time isolated, unable to share their impressions for fear of how their fellow humans will react to new perspectives. A conflict can form between old ways and views with new ways and views, ones that are closer to the truth in a broader, bigger sense. But there is a human quality, often like stubbornness, the unwillingness to change to new ideas, so, in a way, it is ironic and with a sense of sadness that many who are returned have been shown such great knowledge and their minds broadened, yet they are frustrated because they have been isolated (so as to) not share that. Part of my work here and the work of others is to relax that feeling that they must be isolated and frustrated with not being able to share with other humans the knowledge that has been shown them. Hopefully they are being introduced to people who can accept them with their experiences. I know that I am certainly willing to talk with them and I hope there are many others out there who are willing to talk to them and not judge them. There is a curious quality about humans due to their inability to normally exchange telepathically. There is a sense of isolation within one, what one human writer said: “no man is an island.” But in one way, each human being is an island in and unto itself. This is a strange concept to us who come from a society where everyone feels part of the other in a conscious way. I look at the concept (aloneness) and I see it as a kind of strange gift because that sense of being alone makes us fight back to find a place where we know we are not alone. It is almost as though, when we were placed here, we were placed here in igannance and part of our evolution is to find out, in fact, we are not an island.Ultimately, humans will learn that quality. When that happens, your planet will change in many fundamental ways. Hostility will decrease between groups of humans and higher tolerance will increase and understanding will greatly increase between groups, so when such humans are shown such knowledge and then put in isolation on their planet to control that knowledge and to put out, measure by measure, slowly at a human’s slow rate, integrating the knowledge into their culture, it can seem frustrating to us, but we also understand the human sense of continuity and, often the resistance to change. Yes. It is that desire for predictability.So, we are patient, and in a big context, we have been around a long time. The sense of struggle that each individual has, combined with the shorter spans of life, we often observe on your planet. (This) provides a great diversity and adaptability. It may seem to humans that, in a way, our evolution has slowed down while human development is at a rapid pace. Perhaps at one time, our own species also were this way and had a rapid development because of a sense of individuality. Along with this individuality can come strife and also great strides forward. It is part of the struggle that is life, to rise to the top and this we understand. Our species have climbed to a plateau where our evolution is now slower but there is also a sense of contentment and acceptance of where we are at this moment. Yes. Now that I think about it, I have a question on entropy. Does it exist because friction exists or does it stand on its own?Entropy exists in both means, both friction in the gradual slowing down and entropy is also a function of the passage of time. In an initial focal horizon, it begins to slow as time and space spread out. Human beings also, like all life forms, experience entropy. Many those we call humans have described to us what “old” is. It is part, as we understand it, a symptom of entropy. Many physiological traits of humans can be changed to extend their period of life, as we have, to diminish the effects of entropy. Often humans, in contact with other species during abductions, have described to us what “old” is. Initially we did not understand the concept. We began to understand. Often, we leap not only across space but across time in our travels. Locked on an island in space, left behind, the natural processes of entropy are more self evident. In traveling across space, time becomes indistinct as part of space travel, as we understand it, across stars and between galaxies. Linear time is an archaic concept and makes a sense of time or aging strange to us. In time, we began to understand, observing humans, (listening to) what they were stating and now we understand fully. Yes. I can imagine time being able to move in any direction whatsoever. Most people don’t think of it that way. THE UNIVERSEWhat is the nature of consciousness?Consciousness is an attribute of intelligent beings being self aware of their surroundings, not only in a physical sense but also in a spiritual and telepathic sense beyond human comprehension. There is much beyond for humans to enjoy and understand. It is a feeling of wellness and consciousness of (that which) is all around you, one with the atoms, the bosons and the elements in their most fundamental nature that composes the universe and which we are also a part of. We are the consciousness of the universe, (that is) self awareness that can understand its beauty and mystery. (It is) consciousness of all other consciousness’ also reaching out and touching one another, whether near or far, one with each other, in an intimate way, that defies human description. In time, humans will learn as well. Humans have great potential and are like a young child, which we were once also. We are like young adults, in comparison. One day, you, too will enjoy this sense of consciousness and well being. It is what creates tolerance and peace and love and understanding across life around the universe, at its most fundamental level. Thank you. You probably are familiar with the term “entanglement” that we use in physics and also the concept of “intention.” My understanding of “entanglement” is that with proximity, even at great distances, there can be exchange at the lowest level and that “intention” is tied to this process. Would you comment on these concepts?These are concepts in your notion of quantum physics that would seem strange to most humans. The ability to connect across distances and to find a connection where there is no physical connection, (yet) there is a sense of consciousness there, but it is a type of still physical phenomenon in physics that, as fantastic as it may seem to humans, is still a well established fact and they provide connection across distances between certain physical processes in the universe between life forms. Would you describe our meetings together as a reflection of those concepts, among other things? In a way yes, this is a form of communication, not only with our minds, but our whole beings are drawn and linked in a temporary fashion for communication at these meeting times. The setting I chose in the south west desert is a physical place but it is also a place within our minds that I have suggested and we have created between the three of us. It is a setting where there is a sense of solitude and privacy and well being, a comfortable place for my guests where we can conduct an exchange of knowledge and information and friendship. This is one means or use for such telepathic process that you described. It is a way to communicate across our vast distances as well. Yes, I am familiar with the process of co-creation using thoughts and since I am already familiar with the American southwest, it was quite easy and quite beautiful. Thank you.New Mexico, Arizona, Utah, have these qualities you describe. It also make our communication together that much easier and more comfortable for all of us, enriching the process. You are my guests. Steve would like to know what happens when two galaxies collide. This is a tremendous interaction on a vast level that most humans cannot comprehend. It is often seen as an ominous thing but it is both, in human values, to be feared and to be welcomed. In the interaction between 2 separate galaxies, often the space between stars and planets and many structures that you still have yet to learn about, interact like 2 ghosts passing through each other. In many ways, some are not of consequence with each other on such a small effect can be comprehended in relation to a galaxy, but there are also elements of the galaxies that can have ominous consequences for the rest of the galaxy. In each galaxy, holding these structures in place, are often what humans call black holes in the center which often can also collide. These can have great effect to where, due to the physics of space, one galaxy may end up prevailing over another galaxy. Some galaxies will pick up and take with them elements of the other galaxy as they travel through both space and time. Often, on an individual star and planet level, some planets and stars will be disrupted in their paths and gravitational patterns. These can be of tremendous consequences to the life forms on these planets. Often these happen on a level where it takes many millions of years in Earth time for galaxies to interact, many, often billions of years (so) that the individual life forms on these planets do not often feel the effects, both in time and in physical effects of this process. The Milky Way which you call it is our galaxy is also at this moment interacting with another galaxy. This is not well known to humans and it is not of any concern or consequence. It is part of the natural state that often happens. OTHERHow does a species overcome its own violent nature?There is a strong, instinctual, often irrational confusing desire to survive. Part of this is the natural instincts of all creatures. Often the creatures will interpret this irrationally in their own sense of protecting themselves. They will often harm others to perpetuate their own life (in order) to provide their needs for themselves, feeling that the resources they require to live are limited. A sense of confusion, riot type where there is irrationality, sometimes organized, sometimes within the individual. In time, correcting violence is through greater understanding and communication. We also have instinctually within ourselves a sense for violence. This has been suppressed because many life forms have acquired a telepathic sense of a greater social structure, a greater awareness of the interdependence of life in our species and with other species. This creates a sense of understanding where the fear of being deprived because of limited resources is only a concept in the mind. It creates an understanding where violence does not need to be resorted to. It is difficult to describe this. It is somewhat foreign to me, even though we understand it, so forgive my……I hope I am explaining……… Yes. I think that it comes down to the belief that there are not enough resources in the universe and that they will not get a share.That is a more precise explanation. It is not physical limitations. It is the expectation or belief that there are limited resources when, actually, there are unlimited means if the intellect can be applied. One human of your species in your history aptly communicated to others of your species once ‘the only thing we have to fear is fear itself’. Also, with telepathy, there is a sense of interconnectness where, I believe, there is another advanced, but spiritual human term that “one is one’s brother’s keeper”. That is not just a concept but a normal reality within our society because of the telepathic weave that we each are a part of. This comes more naturally for us so the need to act out individually is not necessary. There is a peace and understanding that each is caring of and aware of the welfare of others. This makes violence unnecessary. In the evolution of humans this will eventually happen. If you can survive long enough it will. I believe you will and, given time, it is already begun. OPEN SESSION FOR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONSWe wish Mary and George and Steve a fulfilled and rich life and we enjoy their company and presence. We look forward to continued communication. Han is acquainted with George. Others of my species have often had contact with George. Also, in our communication and interaction with Mary we enjoy her desire to learn and her sense of a higher self that is the basis for all advanced awareness and consciousness about us and other life. She understands and embraces it. We conclude this time and I hope that you enjoy the setting that I provided from my mind to give you a comfortable setting in which we can enjoy our time together. I knew of Mary’s love of New Mexico and, in my hospitality, provided that and at the same time introduced that setting to Steve for him also to enjoy. It is with this sense of hospitality that I am pleased that you enjoyed it also. Thank you and until we meet again.Till we meet again.
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Post by auntym on Oct 1, 2011 15:04:59 GMT -6
steve.... would you ask 'han' if the time-traveler known as john titor is real or fake? this story of john titor has always fascinated me, but i'm on the fence about what i believe.... thanks.... maybe han will help me see the light.....
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Post by Steve on Oct 1, 2011 22:32:58 GMT -6
steve.... would you ask 'han' if the time-traveler known as john titor is real or fake? this story of john titor has always fascinated me, but i'm on the fence about what i believe.... thanks.... maybe han will help me see the light..... I will see AuntyM. I am happy to say I have no clue who John Titor is, so it should make this experiment interesting in helping determine some questions I have - about what is me , and about what is Han perhaps in this process. I like it when Mary asks me questions about topics I have little knowledge about. These are deliberate if I know my friend Mary. Remember, whatever Han is, by writing in your question 'help you see the light', that makes me uncomfortable. I don't really know, but hopefully lets not somehow deify this being. I really enjoy this 'process' we are doing Mary and I. I am amazed, and admittedly sometimes mystified about what is happening. I trust my therapist and good friend. I honestly don't know where the things within me Han says comes from. But I like what I am hearing, reading, and feeling from all this. Has Mary unlocked a part of my subconscious that has not ever been able to express itself before? Does Mary induct me into what George Lobuono calls a 'Second depth awareness'? I would like to hope so. Whatever it is, I feel Mary working with me has given me a beautiful gift I will treasure always few will probably ever understand. If Han's species or character is different from the Grays Jo, Lois, Paulette loath quite understandably, it is because as my therapist in this experiment with her client - which I share here with you - Mary would never permit any being to come into communication with us that had threatening or dangerous traits. She has worked with other clients in her practice, and she is quite experienced, strong, and capable of pushing away any harmful 'whatevers' out-there. I am grateful for that. Whatever the process is that is occurring Mary has seen to it is very therapeutic for me too. Indirectly whoever Han maybe, Mary and Han are 'good medicine'. These experiences are being collected by Mary and I for a future work of some kind. If you can release the natural normal human tendency to be 'Earth Centered' - Han is someone who just lives farther away while being at the same time just as close. I think that maybe Hans real purpose - Part of my sharing these sessions too is to show perhaps somethings about hypnotherapy. With a capable therapist, there is nothing to fear. I really believe what I am experiencing anyone can experience too. I remember my early conversations with Mary, and expressed a desire to oneday meet an alien and perhaps be permitted to figure all this out. Mary astonishingly very matter-of-factly said...this can be easily arranged.... Steve
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Post by paulette on Oct 2, 2011 22:34:04 GMT -6
"Steve specifically wanted to know if human beings, when abducted, are monitored afterward. Yes, they are monitored, by the entities that conduct these illegal actions. They want to know where they are so they can be located quickly for later contacts to monitor their progress and to be able to return for additional genetic material or whatever function these entities wish. They often implant these humans in discrete places with (psychotronic) devices not recognized by humans as such. This is part of their covert process. Humans are intelligent enough to recognize these devices. The greatest advantage these criminal entities have is the great disbelief that Earth centered humans refuses to accept that these events occur. In a way, this makes their work easier. The greatest veil is from the human source and the humans� inability to accept that contact is occurring, legally or illegally. The implants do not send out a signal. They merely enhance the brainwave frequencies that already organically exist in the abductee. It acts as an amplifier for these entities to pick up the radiating brainwave frequencies, each with their own unique identity. These provide a quick and clear identification from a reasonable distance away. It is not across space, but across what human�s call many dozens of miles away from where a signal can be detected by these entities. It is their own minds that exist in a natural state, amplified by these implants, which betray their presence to these criminals who perform these acts for selfish reasons. They do not respect humans. In a sense, we, too, have made contact with humans, much in the way we are now, but also in a setting that might be interpreted as an abduction. But, it is often to impart knowledge and to educate certain individuals we feel who are have potential for high clairvoyance and a sense of purpose and destiny to give them help to steer humanity in a direction that would eventually bring inter-consecutiveness between life forms." Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=encounters&action=display&thread=1294&page=4#ixzz1ZgjmRgh9and another quote: "If Han's species or character is different from the Grays Jo, Lois, Paulette loath quite understandably," Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=encounters&action=display&thread=1294&page=4#ixzz1ZgkENGlVSteve - First, thank you for posing the question about whether abductee's are followed afterward - monitored and re-contacted. The answer seems to be yes - for all alien folks that Han is familiar with including his own kind. This answer does not break new ground, as many folks have assumed that this is true. But validating to those who recall first one and then sometimes many instances of missing time, weird dreams, sleepwalking...etc. But now to the second quote. I have never said anywhere that I had contact with a gray or grays. My hypnotic regression (somewhere here in the back pages) stipulated that the hypnotist asked me what color the being's energy was and I said "deep green" and also that I had the impression that it was having trouble in this gravity and was breathing laboredly. I never have "seen" in dream or recollection anything but a form leaning down over me as I "fell asleep". This was later remembered by me when my doctor said "Good Night" as the anesthesiologist was putting me under so my son could be taken C section. In dreams that may or may not have anything to do with aliens, the people look like people - slightly not-quite-right people maybe. But human. No grays. No memory of grays. But on to a more important point (IMO). You have referred to my fear and in this last posting, my loathing. I was terribly afraid at times but not because anything physical was done to me. It was the vibe, the super strong psi force that pummeled me. When I said (mentally) "You are scaring me to death." I was then put asleep. You have asked me before what my prevailing feeling was about the major incident in Round Rock Texas. I said, "regret". I regretted not being able to handle what happened except to be overwhelmed by fear. I had CALLED them. I thought I could handle ANYTHING that night. I was wrong. But that did not result in hate or loathing. In my dreams I have a yearning to reconnect and at the exact same time a reluctance and so I do not immediately go outside. But I don't go being dragged kicking screaming or in some paralyzed state. I just......................go. The yearning for a weird place (like a wished for crystal cave in the area that my father prevented me from wandering out to in the middle of the night) or my pony or just having an experience that was above and beyond anything....yearning is not hating, loathing, or even wisely avoiding. My contact (if I had contact) may or may not have been "good" for me. Or for my fellow humans. But consider that I went from a self-centered life style of pleasing myself to becoming a front-line worker encouraging others to treat each other at least civilly if not lovingly. I talk about love and about keeping ones heart open EVERY DAY that I work. To accountant men, to soldiers, to Mom's whose kids are driving them crazy...I'm spinning the prayer wheels here (in my own little way) to keep us from destructing our lovely home (hate or indifference to others allows us to do that). We are far more of a menace that anything that might come here to study us. If they had wanted to sterilize the planet - it would have already happened. I wanted to clear that up. Recap: no grays, no loathing, no hating....certainly overwhelming fear times but not now. I have had a great white shark approach my son and I in the water and later I was by myself and drifted far out on a surfboard when an orca and her calf surfaced near me. I was frightened but I also feel very very privileged. These are powerful beings who did not have fear of ME (unlike most animals here) and let me pass unharmed in their own environment. I feel much the same about my experience with or interpretation of what has happened to me - I was in contact with a very very powerful being. Whatever happened or didn't happen in my mind and in my body - I don't know. But quite possibly, I am a better person for it...
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Post by lois on Oct 2, 2011 23:33:19 GMT -6
If it is true what Han states, about matter passing through walls. Maybe, just maybe is how I was found out doors in the middle of the night yet the house was still locked from the inside. Wish my Mother was still here so I could tell all about my experinces as a child being induced by Aliens.
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Post by lois on Oct 2, 2011 23:35:55 GMT -6
Monitoring may be how ufo ships found me each time we moved from house to house.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2011 0:16:24 GMT -6
Monitoring may be how ufo ships found me each time we moved from house to house. Yea... it would also explain my sleep paralysis incidents in college and when I lived in a different state with my ex...
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Post by Steve on Oct 3, 2011 2:14:53 GMT -6
Glad you got that off your chest Paulette. Forgive me if I don't recall the details of your specific experiences. Han seems to use the human term 'grays' in a very blurred and nebulous fashion. We just completed session 10 today and Mary asked Han for instance if their species have 'pets'. Han replied almost amusingly that Grays were their 'pets'. After Mary brought me out of my induction, we talk about what we just recorded. We both were not quite sure how Han meant the term 'pets'. It seemed to be related facetiously. Was it a inside joke between alien species?
Best we can determine, Mary seems to think Han is what might be called a tall white, for whatever that means. If your aliens Paulette you suspect were not grays, then they weren't.
About alien implants - like you related Paulette, nothing new there. The notion these implants are psychotropic was not really new information either, but confirming it so maybe new. To work, logically these implants would have to be psychtronic to avoid obvious detection. Humans wouldn't necessarily be looking for amplified brainwave signals, but they could easily detect a radio signal with any broadband receiver nearby.
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Post by paulette on Oct 3, 2011 11:16:10 GMT -6
Well Steve - you are taking us all (and yourself) off the map. It is a very interesting experience to be part of. I really liked the movie Contact - during which Jody Foster's character meets with her father on tropical beaches to talk and he tells her that "They" were involved with her and encouraged her interests and intelligence since she was a little girl. The beach scene reminds me of Han meeting you in various places - Easter Island, a Box Canyon - that are serene and uncrowded. There is something that seems "right" to me in these movie dialogues. And then I think - could it be that easy? Just ask and someone will come on the line? And then I think - I did that as a young woman (under far less controlled circumstances) and yes - someone came on the line. So now I'm thinking - Do I want to run another experiment in contact? The jury is out for me at this time.
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Post by Steve on Oct 3, 2011 15:18:58 GMT -6
Thanks Paulette. Is Han really meeting me? In a sense he is, but in the relationship during these sessions, I feel more Mary and Han are having the discussions. I am more the go between. Mary always includes my few questions I give her before she inducts me. She asks these questions for me.
When I am inducted, I strangely assume Hans character in the process. I find it interesting some words readily available to me, the same words Han in turn can often have difficulty searching for. Han in a few long pauses does eventually find the word, but maybe his mind must slow down to our relative archaic ape speed?
I expect Han seems to normally relate to others like him on what we would call multiple broad bands at the same time. He must go allegorically from a DSL speed to a quaint simple phone line. But I think his role in his life is just for this purpose Mary and I sense. Somehow I don't think Han's presence was a happy happenstance accident.
We are exploring a new way of contact hopefully. Compared to our experienced good friend George Lobuono, our efforts at playing chopsticks to George's sonata speaks for itself. Are these communications with Han real? Mary certainly seems to think so. I do too to some extent. You must suspend judgment and enjoy the fascinating ride. If and when if it ever concluded at some point, I will ponder over this then.
Mary has had to work with me in my natural tendency to analyze first. Could it all just be my own sub consciousness sharing for the first time fully in my life? The subconscious follows different rules of reality and unreality. This is well accepted. If so, then is Han then really me? Mary doesn't think so, and offers examples why that is not the case.
Han explained for me personally several things that occured to me as a child. Both were concealed by screened memories. A facade nightmare may have been implanted to conceal one particular visit - that once uncovered during hypnosis was actually a meaningful and pleasant experience. A nightmare possibly implanted does really go far in it's purpose covering their tracks.
In another experience I remember playing in my parents backyard in the corner were a stretch of empty garden provided a place to play in the dirt, making roads for my toys. I remember it was mid to late afternoon. Next I remember standing to the side across the street from the front of my house. It was now dusk, and a police car and my parents are in front of our house. They were wondering were I had been. I told them I was playing with the kids next door. I remember sitting on a stairway with the other kids playing, forbidden to go up to where the stairs led to. In the hypnosis sessions Han revealed another screened memory. It seems I was introduced to some children I never had met before, I felt very happy playing with them, they were just different somehow. Suddenly next I am standing across the street a number of hours later, apparently none for wear. In the whole time we lived in that house, it seems I never ever visited next door. except perhaps once or twice to the front door at Holloween.
In the majority of the early sessions, we did not know of a name to relate to Han till the second or third session. It wasn't till the seventh or so session did he appear where we could see his full body in a normal lit and familiar setting. Before that, he would appear in what seemed a large open empty space in darkness, with this almost Film Noir like lighting concealing some details. Han was seen only from the upper abdomen up, except for his long thin arms and hands. More of a bust image. Maybe he was not so much being mysterious but just considerate, allowing me to grow accustomed to him? I felt so.
Once seen in that familiar setting he was a small frail looking man, yet with a youthful looking appearance. With the alien head features, but not in the extreme. We have learned from Han's later descriptions of their anatomy, they are anything but frail. Their sensory organs are all superior to ours except their hearing. Their sense of smell too is suprisingly good Han related, despite any noticable nose. Their eyes see a broader wavelength out of the visual light spectrum, widening into the infrared and ultraviolet. Their hearing seems to have been displaced in their evolution to some extent, they 'hear' more with their minds now sort a speak.
Han for the first time was now fully seen- relaxed - and there he was - he sat on one end of Mary's piano seat. His hands folded in his lap. He did not physically 'smile', but he radiated that sense of enjoyment being there in Mary's living room in my mind for lack of a better way of writing it. Easter Island originated from some of Mary's questions. The first real setting change was sitting together on a black sandy beach in a secluded part of Tahiti which Mary arranged during the induction as part of relaxing me for that session. Mary arranged in the induction to transfer from there. The box canyon appeared after my next induction by Mary, in my mind Han selected that place. It seems he knew of Mary's fondness for the southwest (Han's fondness too - they seem fond of warm dry climates, but there is something more there too Mary relates - some kind of energy that softly resonates everywhere there) when she was a scientist working at Los Alamos. It was a way to introduce 'Steve' to that location too - (never been there).
'Contact' was a film that my wife introduced me to. It grew on me quickly. She very much related to Ellie and her father, as in her own life. Sadly her father passed away two weeks ago. A great engineer, Berkeley professor, and generous father. I think Ellie represents her relationship with her father, or the one she desired to have. I think she did. The actor playing Ellie as a child certainly looks amazingly like my wife when she was the same age as a child too.
I enjoy the scenes you mention in that film. In reality many contact experiences with abductees seem to not be dissimilar in the screened memories created to help the human be more comfortable. Using Ellie's dad also for the film maker avoids a huge problem about any aliens appearance - one of the toughest challenges for any art director in a film. It also made me realize if the directors interpretation of Sagan's fictional book is fairly accurate, perhaps 'Sagan did sell out'. 'Contact' also illustrates frighteningly the many varied human reactions to alien contact. The circus atmosphere portrayed in the film that sprung overnight. Much of this we see today. The aliens might be anti-climatic compared to the UFO organizations and the weird egos that sadly infest this phenomenon holding it back. Each with their own fantasy about their role. So tiresome, it has nothing to do with their own original questions they seek.
About your last question....I think Paulette you can easily experiment the same way. I would have a good therapist working with you. Later, it is very easy to conduct further hypnotic sessions over the phone. If the stated purpose is to make 'contact', make sure the therapist is oriented to that. They can also monitor you during these sessions, and assuring you return fully after your sessions are over.
The beach scenes in Contact do remind me of Han's own sessions with us. Certainly the emotions in those scenes do. Though consciously when we embarked they were not what we originally had foreseen happily. I guess most of this was not foreseen by anyone. I guess that is what in exploring can be all about. What do we even call this sub conscious tiny 'new world'? I am working on more illustrations for the work Mary and I are collecting.
This post ..Too long...
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Post by paulette on Oct 4, 2011 8:58:58 GMT -6
Missing as a boy memories. And so, you too Steve join the ranks of possible experiencers here.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2011 10:32:21 GMT -6
I think maybe what you're doing Steve is 'channeling'..which some mediums are able to do in a self induced trance..while your 'trance' is brought on by your partner. If there is..as some believe..a cosmic consciousness then both you and Han would be tapping into that energy to communicate this way. I've just finished a book by a medical doctor and that cosmic consciousness has been a lifelong study for him (through his patients). A vast well of energy that can be drawn on by those with a well developed right temporal lobe..(communication centers of our brains). People also refer to the right temporal lobe as the God spot. Interesting if you look it up online.
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Post by paulette on Oct 5, 2011 10:44:06 GMT -6
Steve - another question from the audience. (One that came up from a dialogue with Jokelly). Does Han and his people have a "God" or a creation myth that features a Maker?
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Post by Steve on Oct 5, 2011 23:52:06 GMT -6
Steve - another question from the audience. (One that came up from a dialogue with Jokelly). Does Han and his people have a "God" or a creation myth that features a Maker? I was about to post Session Ten when I read your post here. Yes, I think so. It is hinted at in many of the sessions. Occasionally there seems to be references to a 'higher good' beyond all physical life in a spiritual sense. No direct references to a 'heaven', but Han has mentioned several times an afterlife, and in moving on to that afterlife when they die. The terms used maybe different, but such notions of a heaven as another 'dimension', and other notions by some of recurring lives were mentioned. Han probably touched on many beliefs he refers to in these discussions. Which of those beliefs Han particularly may believe in seems to have been avoided diplomatically. Even advanced aliens it seems know not to bring politics and religion to dinner table discussions. Steve
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Post by Steve on Oct 6, 2011 0:27:59 GMT -6
HAN Through Steve __________under Hypnosis Therapist: Mary _____
Session X October 2, 2011
Steve was inducted, given some therapy and then Steve invited the being known as Han to step forward. Therapist made several adjustments to Steve’s vibration and then waited a few minutes for Han to make adjustments.
Han, please tell us when you are ready.
Steve: In my induction now in my mind I am skimming quickly low over solid clouds, so peaceful. When you change the induction frequency the image melts of the body vibration) becoming space. Our speed accelerates rapidly to a point space seems to have folded over in on itself. Space folds over and as soon as it does it unfolds just as quickly. It is as if Han is showing to me in my mind how it looks when he travels or leaps across dimensions. It is startling, but there is no impression of traveling, instantaneous. We are now near another planet. An Earth looking planet. Similar but different. Han seems to be sharing how their form of space flight looks to them. Before you expect to travel ever faster, you are already slowing down. The greatest distance that must have been crossed seems to be the briefest part of the whole journey. The planet we are approaching looks like Earth, yet. Greens and blues, places where you see lights, cities, and clouds. At a distance I see twin stars, one near and one smaller or farther away. Han’s home world.
We are going to ask him to create a space for us to meet. So please give him time to do that.
It’s like he is arranging chairs without chairs, creating a space. This knoll on his planet has strange plants, bright red, like leaves or flowers or something with strange stocks, very lovely. Green grass and he is sitting on a stone and I am reclined on the grass. I have my arm propped up, holding my head up and my elbow on the ground. Mary is nearby, also comfortable. It seems the setting this time is on his home planet. The air feels like a high altitude. It’s thin but it is not uncomfortable. Breathing is a little more conscious than it normally would be. It feels rather like a sunny fall day on Earth. He says he is ready.
EARTH HISTORY
Can you tell us what causes cancer in human beings?
It is a manifestation of entropy in its ugliest form. It is one thing that gives humans a sense of dread and fear. It is the accelerated mutation of cells changed by many external environmental sources, in which humans have genetic traits that make them susceptible. This is a physical condition that often occurs in them. It is a complex and varied disease, with many forms of manifestation. It is the limitations of humans with their short life spans, some of which can be attributed to this anomaly. Many forms of life also experience such diseases in other parts of the universe we have observed too. Cancer is not unique to your planet Earth. Many advanced forms of life have conquered this disease and eventually, so will humans. Many times we have, with compassion, removed such disease for them because in the overall plans for contact these diseases interfere with our work. So, we eliminate these diseases to compensate.
I have heard of this happening.
We have in some cases, along with other entities, some of which are of the criminal variety you refer to as grays made such compensations. Not all grays are criminals. They permeate through our areas of influence too. Many are, by human values, would be considered a “good” species. They too have often had compassion and healed their human subjects. This has mutual benefits. It permits these other entities to continue their own experiments. It prevents spoilage of their harvest. Humans are often abducted very early in their life spans when they begin to acquire mature sexual characteristics, consistent with their species. It has been found that due to environmental concerns not uncommon to Earth, many entities will abduct humans early in their life period when samples they seek are less tainted by possible environmental toxins or radiation found on this planet. A purer specimen.
There are a number of treatments but 2 common ones are radiation and chemotherapy. How does your species view these methods?
It is a very invasive and primitive form of human treatment. We tend to manipulate, within the nucleuses of cells, the genetic structure to create cells and conditions that turn and attack malignant cancer cells. These are very basic explanations for it. We have the genetic capabilities to do this. So do other entities, some of which are criminal species. We have greater knowledge now of human physiology than humans do. This is partly due to our understanding of biology on other planets and how it relates to human physiology. They are not inconsistent and it provides a broader perspective and also gives us a broader……it is difficult to describe. There are many unique properties of minerals and plants around the universe that humans do not have access to which gives us the means to treat humans for this condition in them and in ourselves, if we were to encounter these malignancies. We have access to a broader range of remedies around the universe that can provide what humans would call miraculous cures.
What about the actual condition of the human body? For instance, if the body were a little too alkaline would that have an effect?
There is what is called a PH range from alkaline to acidic. This is a fundamental understanding in human physiology and the physiology of many life forms. The PH range would astonish most humans in many of the beings that they have yet to discover and learn about. The PH levels could be one preexisting condition for the formation of the disease.
What about antioxidants. Are they actually helpful?
Antioxidants can accelerate and help inhibit many of these conditions we are discussing. They create a more beneficial condition for coping with cancers but they are not a cure in and of themselves. But, in combination with other treatments, they are very beneficial.
Just for example, if a human being maintained a slightly alkaline state and took a reasonable supply of antioxidants, would this be helpful to them in preventing cancer?
Yes.
I assume that stress is also a factor to bring on cancer?
The human mind, as well as our minds and the minds of many sentient creatures, are very much interconnected in ways that humans do not yet fully appreciate, but they are learning quickly, particularly in the half last century. These emotional factors affect the physical body and its health. In human cultures, mental health is as important as physical health, but this is often not appreciated. In many ways, your physical understanding of the human body is commendable and yet there is much to look forward to in the knowledge you will soon gain. Mental illness, in many ways still needs further strides, not so much in its treatment, but in its view in human society. It is seen with some apprehension and distain when at the same time, humans will show fellow humans compassion when it is a physical ailment. They do not often understand that a physical ailment is also mental. There is this inconsistency we observe. That in time maybe corrected. In earlier sessions, I have mentioned about deviant behavior of some within our species. Some minor deviance is welcome because, from this, new ideas and perspectives can emerge. In human terms, due maybe to their inability to have the community of mind that is possible through telepathy our species enjoys; humans are limited in their understanding of mental illness or appreciating its extent within your society. It often does not become apparent to you until such disabilities become violent. Much of mental illness is also confused with anxiety, simply because of the human condition. Anxiety has been a survival instinct for humans. When human anxiety lingers beyond its original instinctive purpose, it has caused much self inflected pain. In our encounters with humans, we often spend a great deal of energy in soothing the human mind as they come in contact with our species and many other species. It is difficult to communicate with them when their minds are, in effect, screaming. We talk with them in a calm and positive manner. We understand this (anxiety) but it takes time. We are patient. Sometimes some of our own species become annoyed with this, but, in many ways, humans are still primitive. Due to their lack of exposure to other species in the universe this would be quite understandable.
ZETA RETICULI HISTORY
A meeting is set up by Han on his home planet. Steve describes it to be rather like a sunny fall day on earth. I sense the colors are more intense than what I would normally be looking at.
Here on this planet we keep pets. For me, the pets I keep are more like allies and friends. Do you have those kinds of relationships with other species on your home planet?
We, you might say, regard the grays as pets, but in a more sophisticated way. The grays perform many roles. Many so called grays by you are of wholly organic origins. Some are bio-mechanical. They perform many functions. They are not servants. They live equally in our social pattern, but we often see them as companions in a larger sense. Humans often have a desire to care for others, and have a love bond for living creatures on their planet. They need to express that affection and to receive affection from pets. Often, in our visits, pets can be troublesome. Many have to be subdued by making them passive to suppress the natural protective instincts they have for their pet owners. We appreciate the loyalty they often express. It is understood this is part of the human culture to have pets and we accept this. Know in our own encounters, your pets are not harmed, just rendered passive until we depart - to reduce the consequential random elements possible from such contact. To regard a human pet as your allies and friend is a positive reflection upon you toward a species which often only reacts instinctively.
What do you teach your own children about how to interact with such life forms as plants and trees, and let’s say, less intelligent animals?
In our travels through the universe we have often encountered many...………..We know of many higher advanced forms of life, with some even attaining a spiritual energy level of evolution beyond physical instrumentalities. We regard these with respect. In relationship to that, and how they regard us, we embody that and regard, in turn, others life forms with the same respect. In the broader respect of the universe and our place in it, whether more advanced or less advanced, we try to regard all life as being precious and a physical manifestation of the processes of the universe where physical matter becomes self aware and intelligent. Any life form that has the ability to become self aware is regarded by us as very special. We have learned this from our travels by various means throughout the universe. This is taught to our 'children' or offspring.
You had mentioned that one aspect of your work is communicating with various species. Could you tell us a little bit about some of your other work and also about your contact and where you hope to take it?
I am in contact with many species, some on a similar level as our species, some more advanced and some less advanced. How I communicate with humans is different than the entities from (your term) the Pleiadeians, for example. The wavelength and breadth of communication is more expansive with the Plebeians. The same level of communication with humans, with no disrespect, would only overwhelm. So we must respectfully process it in such a way to provide it at a rate you can absorb, comprehend, and relate back. In many ways I must use diplomacy even in our own community of mind. The need is more acute where diplomacy must be used with tact in species that do not yet have the ability to communicate telepathically. For instance, humans without telepathy could be easily prone to misunderstanding any intent and purpose in our contact with humans. Species contact around the universe is a normal and natural function. At the human present level of contact, you are by our perspective quite isolated in your thought about how you regard your place in the universe. It is with gentle influence or persuasion that we are slowly bringing you into the knowledge of your place in a larger universe.
Aside from communicating with many species, do you have another job to do?
A job in the context of providing shelter and security?
No. Where you expend your energies to be of service.
We all have our roles to play in the greater context of an interconnected society. There are many roles performed by many others. I perform a function, often in contact with many species, Earth being one of them. I suppose this is my role or “job.”
Could you describe how your eyes are different from human eyes, particularly in their capabilities?
Our eyes are able to see a greater wavelength of light and also frequencies in the non-light frequencies. In both the infrared and the ultraviolet. Our eyes are somewhat larger than human eyes. They also are seen as a pathway for telepathic communication. We often use this in our contact with humans to focus our thoughts in the human mind. We can see in relative darkness easier than humans can. Our larger eyes gather more light and the other wavelengths. This gives us an advantage in our contacts and exploration discretely of your planet.
This is just one feature of our physical characteristics. Part of this may have been due to our adaptation to space flight and perhaps our early missing link in our origin with a form of bird - humanoid being that perhaps had similar characteristics we have now to help it survive in its early evolutionary development.
Are you able to see developing thought forms and do they come in a large range of colors?
Yes. Often these are called by some humans as auras. Certain characteristics and colors prevail in certain creatures. Humans, in particular, have a conspicuous effect which we often use to assess their emotional state when we are in contact with such humans. They provide a further indication of the emotional energies they randomly radiate. This is unconscious to you, but what we can see quite readily.
Most of us don’t see the colors, but we certainly sense someone’s emotions when they are nearby, if the emotions are strong enough. We have that condition where hair stands up on the back of our necks or our arms when we feel that something is different.
This is part of an instinctual response, often seen in many such animals, human beings one of them. This is part of the instinctual response which is often called in its primitive form, “fight or flight,” which, in our encounters with humans, we have seen often. It is important for us to understand this instinctual response in our encounters, both with our craft and in direct contact. That knowledge provides a way that our contact is such that the outcomes are positive. It is our way of adjusting which often must occur in the interaction with many species.
Yes. I have always felt that travel was the best educator.
Yes. In many ways, humans are quite…. I will rephrase this. There are such wonders for humans yet to discover out there. (There are wonders) in learning about us and many other species, that will be of benefit to what make humans what they are (and will become). Their identities will not diminish, but knowing a broader sense of their place will embellish & enrich all that they know.
Concerning some of your other senses, say in orders of magnitude or percentage, how is your hearing compared to humans?
Our hearing is not as good as human hearing. This is, best we can understand. It is not as important in many ways. Telepathic skills have replaced much of our sense of hearing. Hearing has become less important due to this. We seem now the hear with our minds.
Is that also true of your sense of smell?
Our sense of smell is good, better perhaps than it should be. We have no explanation for this. It could be perhaps a distortion of our own perception of ourselves. We know in the case of many humanoids, which humans are in this group, the sense of smell is a larger imprint on their memory. It is perhaps with us, too. It is perhaps on an equal level in sensory ability, perhaps magnified by memories of those associations that may seem to be embellished when actually they are not.
Certainly smell is a very evocative sense for us and brings back a lot of moments in time.
We do not deny in our own evolutionary development the sense of smell has contributed both as a survival traits, and in our earlier concepts of reproduction. In our field work in covert visits here, there are many fragrances that we enjoy. Many plants and other beings have scents that are part of their normal biological gestations. We enjoy those too. Scents of flowers are often particularly memorable and unique.
When we human beings are paying attention, we enjoy these things too.
We have noticed this.
Your sense of touch, has that diminished during your evolution or has it increased?
Certain areas of our anatomy are heightened, particularly our fingers and fingertips. This, in part, due to psychotronic abilities some of our technology has in linking which our minds with thoughts connect directly with controls in our craft. These have become embellished and heightened and often it is a conduit for controlling some forms of tools we have that you call technology. These have been heightened out of necessity or practicality. Other parts of our selves have diminished in sensitivity, perhaps in compensating.
SPIRITUALITY
CONTACT
Han, are you familiar with an individual whose name was John Mack? He was a Psychiatrist, I believe attached to Harvard University.
Yes, I know of John Mack. He is in the thoughts we down loaded from humans, in our contacts with humans. There are impressions of this gentleman, either from direct contact or from humans reading about him. We are aware of him and we are aware of his spirit. His spirit still exists in the universe.
Yes. I met him and his work helped to guide me to open up to this kind of communication. He seemed to be very compassionate and I appreciate who he was and who he is in spirit.
There have been a number of very large triangles seen in the sky near Grass Valley. Are familiar with that?
These are part of a continuing exercise. Some species that require genetic material of humans, part of the illegal, criminal activity that is often associated with these beings, the craft themselves are not improper, but the creatures that use them are. Triangles, as you call them due to their shape, interstellar and interdimensional craft which use shifts in dimensional frequencies to conceal their presence, appear quite large by human standards and indiscrete but they have the ability to conceal themselves just as equally as our craft. The size, for their function, is rather inconsequential. There has been activity in many areas, Placerville, for instance is just one and that general area. Many contacts are being continued and maintained in the normal process that has been going on for some time.
Yes. We have one case, ____________ and _____________has seen one of these crafts. ______, we believe, has been taken intermittently.
She has.
Do you think ____________ may also have been taken?
No. Not at this time.
What about __________?
Yes. It is the females in this social unit that is of interest at this time.
Does it go further back in lineage?
Yes. Also, including some males.
Can you tell me how many generations back?
Three generations. It is an experiment and a particular genetic lineage that this social unit possesses that is of interest. Also, in gratitude for their unwilling service, in return, many of these species have provided physical cures for ailments for these humans, such as cancer, as we discussed earlier. This is part of maintaining the integrity of the genetic experiment being conducted.
Has _______or _______ ever had cancer?
________ has. _________ has not. _______ had cancer.
Do you happen to know what part of the body was affected with ________?
In __________ case it was some of _____ lymphatic system.
And ___________?
I do not have that information.
THE UNIVERSE
OTHER
Is clothing a rather normal thing for humanoids to wear, aside from our planet? Is clothing a part of your society?
We permit in our society a certain sense of individual vanity to express individuality, even though many feel connected in a larger sense apart of the community of minds. We do not have a sense of modesty that we have noticed in humans. We are comfortable wearing clothes, as you call them, garments. Often many garments we wear, particularly in contact with humans, are not mere clothing but protection from biological contamination between both humans and entities. Some provide defense from our……there is a psychotronic magnification of some entities’ organic sensory abilities through this ‘clothing’. These provide enhanced awareness around them for their own safety to protect and to provide early warning. Clothing often, we admit, can be a form of fashion, but they provide a serious function in many types of situations.
Steve would like to ask about an incident in his childhood in which he felt he was interacting with some kind of an alien being who was quite friendly with him and almost paternal. Do you have any knowledge of that incident?
I will refer to a number of others of my species in the interconnected weave that we have. We recall contact with him early in his physical life. He seemed to be more receptive than most. We apologize if some of these telepathic contacts and physical contacts were, in some ways distressing to him. This often occurs with many we encounter that I spoke of earlier. We sensed a feeling of warmth, a feeling of familiarity from him. (We have) an image of holding his hand and guiding him through a lonely period, but a wonderful period too. He had a good childhood where he was loved and felt secure. He often felt uncomfortable in school in knowing how to fit in. Many humans encounter this too in their emotional and social development. This is only natural. Our species learned this too at a very early age. It is part of a growth.
During that time period in his childhood, was there something that happened in the house next door that was unusual?
There were several visits. Often we would come to him and spend the…..One such visit occurred in his parent’s backyard when we showed him our craft, a form of energy primarily, which was quite daunting and astonishing and for a young mind, frightening. We controlled that by…..several times we implanted false memories, concealing these visits. One such memory planted was unfortunate but effective, thus creating a nightmare of a situation based on much religious mythology that humans believe in which we often exploit. Another was a visit by us, introducing the children of our species with Steve. This was masked by planting in his mind a memory of visiting the neighbors next door. This is not actually what occurred. It was a visit by our species, but we felt that implanting this memory of visiting his neighbors concealed our visit. He had never actually met his neighbors. In his mind we planted the idea that he did. There was no trauma in this particular visit. We actually introduced some of our younger, what humans would regard as alien children, to play with him. We wished to study his interactions and we must say that he was very promising and happy with these children of ours. The thoughts in him seemed to transcend…….. it showed promise for future contacts. It is not a surprise that Steve is here being used for our communication between us. A role that began we discovered in that meeting when he had that meeting. He has certain fundamental qualities that all life has. He sees past certain prejudices humans may foster and certain appearances and mannerisms that would be strange to others. He is accepting and comfortable with them so it is not surprising that he has a longing to investigate many (reports of) craft and any false reports also that are of human origins. It is his desire to connect with us unconsciously.
You probably are aware of an individual with the last name of Spielberg. He has directed a number of films that depict an interaction with humans and off-planet beings. Do you know of him?
Yes we do know of him. He is one of several entertainers in human society who has created stories about contacts, some imagined, some not. They have created physical wealth. We see these in a sympathetic way as helping our role in opening up broader perspectives of human consciousness about the universe. They have created new perspectives and thoughts about aliens, as they imagine seeing us and others like us. These stories show humans a broader understanding and appreciation. In reality it helps humans be more tolerant of differences they see within themselves.
Yes. I saw him somewhat as an educator, not so much in facts, but in developing an open mind.
Mr. Spielberg has a unique talent for retaining many of his younger, childlike qualities and perspectives. This has benefited his art and his skills as a communicator and educator and also has benefited him in his material wealth. His ability to understand those who appreciate his work has created great rewards for his skills. His many interests include extraterrestrial contact. He has often provided some of his rewards as an artist by providing the funding for some projects, including the SETI primitive experiment. We keep a close watch on many. It is to our benefit to know this in our interaction with your species.
What causes species when they die to leave imprints in material objects that play back sometimes? I am speaking particularly of what we might call “haunting” where there is no consciousness involved, but the sound plays back. How is it imprinted and how is it released?
In your question about our eyes, I remarked about many abilities to sense certain energies that are radiated by humans. Some are a physical manifestation. Some are an energy that transcends the physical. Sometimes a wake or imprint can be left behind on many physical objects. This residual energy lingers sometimes for a short time.
These energies are what I believe you are referring to. Is it high emotion that causes them to imprint or why do they imprint at one time but not at other times?
There is a kind of energy frequency that is radiated by humans and all life forms that leave a shadow or wake of residual energy behind them. Often these appear also in our eyes as certain colors. We can often tell by the person who left these residues their physical and emotional state at that time. Many encounters we make with humans are often in our concern during times when are coping with great emotional stress. A loss or big change in their relationship with others in their social units. We respond out of curiosity. These energies which humans unconsciously project we can use to gage their own life’s sense of wellness or stress. Some ghosts are an amplified residue of their past energies, perhaps made so in the transition from one life to the afterlife.
Does this reverberating sound happen everywhere or does this just happen here?
It is the resonance all life forms throughout the universe possess. Part of a larger energy that encompasses and envelopes all life forms
Since every life form puts off its own level of energy when it passes over, what’s to stop all those energies from absorbing into materials and then coming back and creating incredible chaos?
This is a mystery to us. Is it perhaps each energy is both in life like a wave and particle? Emitting a certain identity or uniqueness while at the same time amalgamated into a larger whole? This is a primitive residue apparent in our telepathic community of mind. Does it challenge our own species view about a sense of social identity. Perhaps this is an evolutionary throwback to an earlier time before the ability to communicate telepathically existed.
It is really hard for us to tell, but this phenomenon seems to be tied to wood in old houses, among other materials, also stone structures. I don’t know that I have heard of this playback phenomenon out in the woods.
Wood is an organic structure.
I guess that stone might have some quartz in it that might magnify sound, but I am only guessing.
There are certain energies, even within stones, with a different frequency that harkens back even to the creation of the universe. Part of all matter that exists within its nuclear resonance has a type of echo from the original creation of the universe.
Perhaps that is the word we should be looking at: “echo.” In any event, our time is running out here but is there an effective way that we might use to remove the space junk that is now floating around in our planet?
Yes, there is a way. The level of technology that man is presently using causes this. The energies used in your primitive chemical rockets reflect a relatively inefficient use of energy expended where a great deal of stored energy is needed to lift a payload into space. Many of your technologies harken to our early history. Humans will need to minimize their mess, as you call it. Using our ability to travel inter- dimensionally, our ability to travel through this orbiting traffic jam is not of consequence to us. So in communicating with you, I wish to assure you that this is only a problem for humans, not for us. This is just one more commonly observed indication among most evolving species of Earth having reached an early level of technology able to evolve into space.
Thank you for that.
OPEN SESSION FOR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS
Is there any final thing you would like to say to us today?
The human mind has great capacity. You are capable of such great dreams and nightmares. Part of this is a manifestation of your evolution. In the individual lives that make up your species, know that there is a higher good, beyond all of us, that each species eventually realizes. Throughout the Universe, each species shares a first question which universally remains the ultimate last question.
Until we talk again, thank you very much.
Until we meet again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2011 1:38:34 GMT -6
Wow Steve. That's very interesting... So George Lucas was right. The force is with us, huh? Interesting what he said about Auras. Interesting too that you have been visited by them and given "screen memories". They seem to be guiding us in our evolution...
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Post by Steve on Oct 6, 2011 2:03:52 GMT -6
I think 'Auras' is a hokey New Age Invention. But in these sessions there seems to be something to it.
I might ask Mary to ask Han one annoying question for me. Reading these sessions back, if any contact with me did occur (and I am still not sure).... Why initiate contact if they are to be eventually only covered up afterward with screened memories? Why bother then?
It can logically only be so if we were being borrowed for their own purpose. There seemed to be nothing in that situation described of real benefit to me. Like I was a pet brought to school for Friday sharing in class, see children, this is a human, interact and play games with it. Why not down load my future education third grade through college - it would save me and my parents the trouble & expense raising me in the meantime. Something here about this whole phenomenon doesn't make any sense.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2011 3:34:40 GMT -6
The "oz effect" you mentioned awhile back doesnt make any sense, but it's the real deal. I know that in my experience I had to struggle-fight, however you want to put it to overcome the mental block it was trying to hold me to and it took everything within me just to open my eyes . It still to this day has blocked sections of the encounter that I'm struggling to self regress.I'm now realizing that an ordeal which lasted for maybe 30-45 minutes, I can only recollect about 5 minutes of and an additional 30-45 minutes it took everything inside me just to be able to speak after they left but at least my eyes were open during that period although I still couldn't move.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2011 3:49:25 GMT -6
I think the only reason I can remember the things I do is because a father instinct took over and fought against "the force" they were putting on me .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2011 4:43:39 GMT -6
I think the only reason I can remember the things I do is because a father instinct took over and fought against "the force" they were putting on me . Different kind of "force" than the one I was talking about. ~hugz Cliff~ That's kind of how I felt too Cliff, when the entity got right up in my face and stared at me, then he touched me and made everything shut down. After he was controlling my body and my mind, I didn't like it and I was fighting with every fiber of my being to "wake up" and I couldn't... and eventually succumbed to sleep after that struggle. That's a good point Steve. Why contact you if only to make you forget?
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Post by paulette on Oct 6, 2011 10:14:54 GMT -6
I think 'Auras' is a hokey New Age Invention. But in these sessions there seems to be something to it. I might ask Mary to ask Han one annoying question for me. Reading these sessions back, if any contact with me did occur (and I am still not sure).... Why initiate contact if they are to be eventually only covered up afterward with screened memories? Why bother then? It can logically only be so if we were being borrowed for their own purpose. There seemed to be nothing in that situation described of real benefit to me. Like I was a pet brought to school for Friday sharing in class, see children, this is a human, interact and play games with it. Why not down load my future education third grade through college - it would save me and my parents the trouble & expense raising me in the meantime. Something here about this whole phenomenon doesn't make any sense. Steve The fly in the ointment - more and more it sounds as if the greys/grays are working with or perhaps for Han's society or whatever. Perhaps they are doing the "dirty work" - being exposed to humans and, if the screening memories don't hold, being blamed for conducting abductions and experiments. While I'm at it here - if the triangle ships are not Han's folks - are they dracos? Are there reptilian like aliens operating on this planet? Again Han uses the word pet and in the above quote, so did you. We obviously (according to both your dialogues and just contemplating a race that can cross over space and time to get here) are not equals. We make pets out of dogs - but we also use them for horrific experimentation. Ditto rabbits, rats, cats. They are nice enough animals - but they are animals (and we think we are not somehow.) There have been many incidents of animals saving humans - a gorilla that stood guard over a child who fell into the gorilla enclosure, cats that wake owners up during a fire, and in my case, a pod of wild bottlenose dolpin that I believe was protecting me and two young of their own in the middle from a menace below. Divers and drowning people have often been protected by dolphin. But that doesn't preclude Japan from killing hundreds every year and no one else doing anything about it. (That town was wiped away by the tsunami. I wondered about the karmha of that). You went into this experiment with total trust and a helpful naiveite. Now you are starting to look at the pieces and seeing what patterns they may be revealing. We are a species of interest to a very long-lived race. It may be our drama and entertainment value rather than a intent to enlighten us that underlies the long running relationship of us and Others.
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Post by Steve on Oct 6, 2011 12:18:59 GMT -6
Then again....in speculating about the intent of the experience associated with the screened memory neighbors next door.....for me to have been left with those memories at that age would have been so very disruptive to my family. Me and my parents would have been 'committed'. I think it was a socialization exercise on Han's species part with a mutual benefit.
Mary once told me that once long ago when she worked as a nurse in a mental hospital, there was one patient she remembered who was claiming to have been visited repeatedly by little men from a flying saucer. She has asked herself would she see him any differently now?
I think Han may not have really understood the pet question. I think about Han's place and relationship to the grays, and may have been injecting his form of humor in that particular instance. Especially in light of how we view all this. I wouldn't put more into it at present, more will tell us.
I know the abductee referred to in Han's session ten. In our past hypnotic regressions with this person, in their drawings specifically, we can be sure if the triangles reported and this person's past experiences are directly connected, then in that particular case - the entities were not dracos or reptilian forms. They would have been similar to Han's appearance, but in the more extreme.
From the Han sessions, I am left with an impression it would be a mistake to associate any criminal like behavior as we would interpret it with just a specific species. There are more diverse associations going on here related to any one specific activity.
I am struck sometimes how Han can be forthcoming with some answers, and others less so. And even a few times, other questions where he was unable to answer.
Han's willingness to freely share might stem also from politically having no reason to withhold from us information about another group perpetrating illegally certain things on another species (in this case to us).
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Post by skywalker on Oct 9, 2011 9:16:24 GMT -6
I wonder how Han compares to Lorelei's guide (the little boy with black eyes) which she encountered in her hypnosis sessions? Is it common for these "guides" to appear to people when they are under hypnosis?
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Post by paulette on Oct 9, 2011 11:55:39 GMT -6
Lorelei - if you are reading this - could you comment. I'm interested in your speculation about the black eyed boy.
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