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Post by auntym on Nov 20, 2012 12:01:09 GMT -6
I wonder if the Feds could use Facebook posts to prosecute people? If somebody made a post saying they did something illegal would that be considered an admission of guilt or evidence that could be admitted in court? i don't know who said it first but i believe its very true... "NEVER PUT ANYTHING INCRIMINATING IN WRITING"
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Post by plutronus on Nov 20, 2012 23:00:24 GMT -6
I wonder if the Feds could use Facebook posts to prosecute people?
If somebody made a post saying they did something illegal would that be considered an admission of guilt or evidence that could be admitted in court? The InterNet is about as much fun to surf these days as the YellowPages (TM)(c)(R).
In Los Angeles, the local police departments have been arresting people for their party activities that they described in their 'private' FarceBoob 'Friends' privacy setting. The prosecution information is being purchased using public funds. Yes, the police/gvrnmnt prosecutors (public salaried employees) do prosecute people using FB's intellectual property that they collect and sell to those gvrnmnt agencies.
Its just a matter of time, as things are progressing regarding our DiGITAL CIVIL LIBERTIES which the gvrnmnt believes they have the right to side-step...its just a matter time before things get bad.
Let us not say anything publicly on FarceBoob, especially regarding gvrnmnt misbehavior, lest one be deemed unpatriotic...seditious. Under the new Obama (no Habeas Corpus rights/protections for those deemed 'terrorists') bill (written by BOTH SIDES OF THE HOUSE), all one need do is p.i.ss off somebody in gvrnmnt to be in the cross-hairs.
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p.s. Habeas Corpus: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habius_corpus
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Post by randy on Nov 21, 2012 1:26:58 GMT -6
What it boild down to is who is in power at the time. They have their own version of what is a terrorist. One mans terrorist is anothers patriot. At one time both the leader of Israel and Egypt had been terrorists in their youth blowing up hotels full of people among other things. Currently owning gold is terrorism as is having more food on hand than your neighbor does I have talked with feds who were at Ruby Ridge and their attitude is interesting rather like doberman attack dogs If it is necessary to produce a terrorist for public relations one is produced regardless. having read the top secret police only files my father brought home during his investigations for the state of Calif , what you think you know to be reality is usually what they want you to think and is probably 189 degrees from reality. As far back as 1960s they were worried about open war breaking out in the US if people really knew what was going on in some areas. enough said I think they are watching
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2012 10:43:18 GMT -6
Oh it doesn't matter who is in power at the time...they will all use whatever 'tool' is at their disposal. To be honest..if I had the job of protecting the nation from terrorists..think I wouldn't be monitoring places where people talk more than they should??? If I wanted to keep kids from driving drunk and killing themselves on drugs..maybe I'd monitor where they lurk too. Some of this just isn't sinister..it IS very invasive but if you have something to hide..should you take it public anyway??
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Post by randy on Nov 25, 2012 0:30:14 GMT -6
They are watching. manequins are now being made with cameras in the eyes to track you in stores and they all so record your conversation. the data colleccted will go to a centralized data bank where you will be classified as to sex, race, age, shopping habits etc. they say they are working Manequins that will capture shoplifters physically. they have also come out with police observation posts on cherry pickers that can used for civil unrest and observation of neighborhoods for crime. Ever notice how often the term "for civil unrest" is cropping up in talking about new police combat vehicles etc. Why would there be civil unrest. Also to make the stew more interesting. They are talking about higher food prices here and the government buying less food for food bank use. Yet they also say this year will be a record for export of food from the US. Do you see a conflict in these statements. We are to pay much higher prices for food grown here but we are exporting record amounts of food grown in the US. We are being shafted folks
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Post by randy on Nov 25, 2012 22:02:17 GMT -6
Lately the police agencies in the country have been coming up with new neat toys to play with as noted in posts above. Seems this money and the toys are coming from DHS With this money comes increased Federal control DHS is creating surveillance buffer zones around important facilities where the people entering them will be filmed and information recorded in central hubs of data from several local police agencies in the area. Over 1800 such hubs have been laid out to date. Federal agencies will be able to access live feeds from this filming at will. facial recognition techniques will be applied to identify people in these zones, license numbers on cars will be noted at motels, shopping malls etc. Who are the zones designed to combat? It is not islamist terrorists or agents of a foreign power like North Korea or Russia. It is designed to protect facilities from the right wing American. I recall when communist agents were the enemy in my youth Head arch villians are veterans followed by those who are concerned about govt growth, immigration, abortion etc. I recall the time when veterans of WWII were considered the back bone of the country. I recall when normal christian values were taught in school Since my youth we have added alot of small wars to our history each producing veterans who fought for their country. Millions of veterans live in the US and now they head the list of potential terrorists according to the govt. Why would that be? Most curious. With increased federalization of local police comes federal training of new police officers. Who will do this training is still not certain nor is who will ultimately head the whole thing. The feds will be able to direct the actions of local police since they take federal funding. Under existing law people can be arrested and held indefinitely. A committee in DC can order the arrest of joe tax payer on whimsy literally. They are watching and they are recording data in centralized data banks
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Post by randy on Nov 27, 2012 0:45:28 GMT -6
in a recent presentation Zbigniew Brzezinski stated that the internet was providing an avenue of resistance to the new world order. Internet communication was in effect going around the control media to the people. With the above post in mind on surveillance buffer zones and federal training of local police forces he stated that moves are in progress to place all people under almost total surveillance while completing files on everyone. He advocated an elite governing cast of people ruling the world Such an elite would unrestrained power free of traditional accepted values, This is not the raving of Hilter but of a respected person in the world press While not Hitler it is the raving of a total lunatic and mad man who needs to be locked up in a mental hospital Unfortunately this is in progress it seems.
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Post by randy on Nov 28, 2012 0:21:07 GMT -6
keeps getting better and better. When Hitler can to power they collected all the guns and ammo in Germany. In Berlin about 500 guns were picked up and about 500 rds of ammo or one bullet for each gun. the people were now helpless to resist the knock on the door some tried to fight with sticks but they had little chance in reality. Recently the UN world wide gun control treaty was scheduled for final talks in Marsh 2013. On being re eleccted less than 24 hrs Obama signaled the UN he was ready to proceed with this treaty that would be binding on US citizens Part of the treaty states in countries where the legislature is prevented from acting on this the task of gun control would be taken over by the UN office of disarmament. In other words we have the 2nd amendment but dont worry the UN is not bound by law to observe it. So if we allow this treaty to be signed then we face the prospect of the UN trying to take arms and ammo from the American people. This situation is so filled with the potential for armed violence it boggles the mind. Only pure lunatics would set this situation into motion. Such an act on Obamas part should be taken as evidence of being mentally unfit to hold office and he should be impeached. Hitler, STalin, mao etc they all disarmed the people under them. the record of the human rights abuses of each of these men is history. We do not need to relive such history here. As a kid I was raised around guns and they were as common as shovels in the home. No one ever thought of the govt taking guns away from the people. In the end each must make the final decision on what to do themselves. we are all free born Amercians
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2012 0:42:46 GMT -6
keeps getting better and better. When Hitler can to power they collected all the guns and ammo in Germany. In Berlin about 500 guns were picked up and about 500 rds of ammo or one bullet for each gun. the people were now helpless to resist the knock on the door some tried to fight with sticks but they had little chance in reality. Recently the UN world wide gun control treaty was scheduled for final talks in Marsh 2013. On being re eleccted less than 24 hrs Obama signaled the UN he was ready to proceed with this treaty that would be binding on US citizens Part of the treaty states in countries where the legislature is prevented from acting on this the task of gun control would be taken over by the UN office of disarmament. In other words we have the 2nd amendment but dont worry the UN is not bound by law to observe it. So if we allow this treaty to be signed then we face the prospect of the UN trying to take arms and ammo from the American people. This situation is so filled with the potential for armed violence it boggles the mind. Only pure lunatics would set this situation into motion. Such an act on Obamas part should be taken as evidence of being mentally unfit to hold office and he should be impeached. Hitler, STalin, mao etc they all disarmed the people under them. the record of the human rights abuses of each of these men is history. We do not need to relive such history here. As a kid I was raised around guns and they were as common as shovels in the home. No one ever thought of the govt taking guns away from the people. In the end each must make the final decision on what to do themselves. we are all free born Amercians Whoa! Whoa! Look a little deeper, here. Sounds like some upper management is "running scared". Think of all the usa people that are combat trained from the "little wars" going on all over the place, and their personal stockpiles. Our government is late in realizing that some of their own soldiers are mentally ill (and not born that way) and are just time-bombs waiting to go rogue. I expect to see some definite sweep and carry of veterans before they are able to round up all weapons and ammo. And, we've got so much material goods in our homes that we won't ever run out of material to make bullets with. IMO, anything this blatant is destined to cause the opposite. Our current prez is not the least bit stupid. ;D I don't think we'll be catching him with his pants down or drunk at xmas, ya know?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2012 4:35:02 GMT -6
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Post by randy on Nov 29, 2012 0:31:04 GMT -6
Consider the vererans from WWI and WWII who numbered in the millions. Where were the mass shootings and the rogue veterans gone amuck? Currently there are millions of veterans both men and women living in the US and to lump sum them as potential terrorists is absurd. Recently I think it was the head of the Energy Dept who said that 22 rifles are terrorist weapons and should be treated as such. 22s? It reminded me of a head line from Australia when they were disarming the populace there "The single shot rabbit gun the drug dealers weapon of choice" A drug dealer with a single shot gun would be laughed out of town. Similarly a terrorist who could not do better than a 22 is not much of a threat Yet there are many people who know nothing of firearms and follow the govt word hook line and sinker. The govt is looking at our own people as the enemy in this when it is violent islam that killed people in the twin towers or ddi they forget that. In Chicago it is mexican drug cartels fighting over turf that is much of the crime. Foreign criminal organizations. If a govt looks at the people as the enemy they have to have a reason to take this view point. so where are the bombings and the political based attacks by US citizens. They dont exist A piece of the puzzle is still missing. What is the reason that US citizens would attack their own govt? Obviously something has yet to happen to spark the people into anger
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Post by randy on Nov 30, 2012 2:00:48 GMT -6
Interesting article on programed killers created for specific jobs. People trying to disprove the idea that you can create programed killers out of ordinary people set up a program that simulated programing a killer by hypnosis. In this case the shooter retrieved a firearm from a bag and then shot an actor with blank cartridges as he was programed to do. He later under lie detector testing had no memory of the programing. This test was to disprove the idea that killers can be created at will. Instead it proved the opposite. Ordinary people can be come killers due to hypnotic suggestion. Taking this one step further people can be programed to do other things. virtually anything in the world. Nancy Pelosi could do a pole dance in congress. How a Senator votes on a bill could be controlled a similar attempt to disprove the created shooter idea was attempted in Britain and again the shooter was created and did the dastardly deed. did it never occur to people how common it is for a shooter to shoot themselves in the end so they cannot be questioned. Why is it that the site of the Columbine shooting is only a few miles from the more recent Colorado shooting where the shooter was a student of medicine involving the brain. The Sikhe shooter was in psy ops in the army. the connections are there. Its like the old storey of the old man of the mtn who ran a terrorist ring of assassins the head of the govt was going to resist the old man until he found that the head of his body guard was such an assassin then he found wisdom. the old man used brain washing techniques and pot to created his agents. The term assassin comes from hash hashed or one who smokes pot. So much for pot being a peaceful drug ideas Brain washing it not a new idea
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Post by randy on Dec 3, 2012 1:33:34 GMT -6
Lobbyists are pushing congress to advance the date when drones will be able to be used nation wide. In a short time 30.000 drones will fill the air tracking what people are doing. These craft will be literally able so hover and look in windows and to record what is being said in side. Police drones will be able to engage felons while in persuit. Exactly what that needs is not clear. Perhaps they will be able machine gun purse snatchers on the street. One place where they were not watchins was the railyards in Atlanta Ga where a boxcar was broken into and hundreds of rifles were stolen including AK-47 type weapons.
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Post by randy on Dec 6, 2012 1:24:14 GMT -6
verison has announced that it has a new DVR that will record and film conversations in the home so to better adapt commercials to the TV user. Of course this same idea can spy on the home and look for signs of terrorism using the same principles A new drone will be able to fly into houses and to move areound inside without worrying about running out of power as it will trail wires. Reminds me of the old movie "Run away" with tom selleck. Texas will be considering permanent DUI check points where motorists and their cars will be checked out on a regular basis. the above all sounds like a movie plot but it is really life folks coming to you soon
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Post by randy on Dec 7, 2012 0:16:07 GMT -6
The military admits that it flies drones over the US and spies on people to train drone operators and to develop new driones. North Dakota will become the major drone testing and training area. Tell your daughter to keep her window closed up tight at night.
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Post by skywalker on Dec 7, 2012 12:00:30 GMT -6
They have been using drones here for years. Even some police departments are now using them.
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Post by randy on Dec 7, 2012 13:11:26 GMT -6
Interesting article on the internet seems that cars have black box data recorders in them that if you are in an accident they will have preserved data on how fast you were going, if you were wearing a seat belt, if you were weaving as you were driving etc. These black boxes have been installed for years and new more improved versions are coming possibly with the add on of the police being able to disable your car on command. I dont remember if I mentioned that they also want all e-mails recorded and preserved for two years by internet providers should you be declared a terrorist or some such. it does seem that our freedom as Americans is being rapidly subject to continuous tracking and recording. Go shopping the manequins are tracking your movements. have a fight with the wife at home and its recorded and filmed. go some place for a drive on a Sunday and it is tracked. Take a walk and your cell phone rats you out that you stopped at a bar. Drones are out side your house recording what you say and peeking into your windows. Soon they will probably inspect your thought patterns as well
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Post by plutronus on Dec 8, 2012 3:08:52 GMT -6
The military admits that it flies drones over the US and spies on people to train drone operators and to develop new driones. North Dakota will become the major drone testing and training area. Tell your daughter to keep her window closed up tight at night. Randy,
Good points, all.
I saw on RFD-TV (the rural farming TV channel on DirectTV), that the middle America farmers are all pis.sed off at the Department of Agriculture's usage of drones spying on them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2012 10:03:40 GMT -6
I've been suspecting the orange objects witnessed by me, Lois, and people from all over the planet are drones after seeing a recent article about them. The lights used on some of the them showed a resemblance. Perhaps not all of them are but I believe it would help explain many of the recent sightings.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2012 19:20:01 GMT -6
The military admits that it flies drones over the US and spies on people to train drone operators and to develop new driones. North Dakota will become the major drone testing and training area. Tell your daughter to keep her window closed up tight at night. Randy,
Good points, all.
I saw on RFD-TV (the rural farming TV channel on DirectTV), that the middle America farmers are all pis.sed off at the Department of Agriculture's usage of drones spying on them.
plutronusI live in middle America and am basically a "nobody". Would someone please explain to me why I'm feeling angry/irritated too? ;D
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Post by skywalker on Dec 8, 2012 23:59:36 GMT -6
Probably because the government is letting us all down. Everybody is feeling ticked off and angry.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2012 14:58:09 GMT -6
Maybe. But I think it's more like when I get a ticket for going through a stop sign. There's so much crime going on around, that it's like "what are you looking at me for!"?
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Post by randy on Dec 10, 2012 1:26:36 GMT -6
The drone caucus in govt is pushing for drone over sight to be moved from the FAA to DHS Kind of like the mafia being asked to over see the banks. I think they probably do anyway. Gives DHS a free hand with no one watching them. I get the feeling of a new Gehieme Stats Politzi or Gestopo for short
People feel angry because they know they are being ripped off deep inside. Our country has tremendous power and ability but it is not being used We are being manipulated into a new society and life style that was never voted on. We were never asked if we wanted it It is being forced on us. go back to WWII we could build a complete liberty ship in less than 24 hrs We built 50,000 C 47 aircraft, 12,000 B 17 four engine bombers, we had 100 air craft carriers We gave Russia 400,000 trucks. We were humming like a well oiled machine and could arm and feed the world. We made tanks faster than Germany could blow them up plain and simple. This fine machine that was the US is now rusty and frozen up as the people operating it are igannant at best or hostile to it at worst We are exporting food and fuel to other countries. Why are exporting fuel we need it here. Buy a steak and then ask why were are selling beef to the Russians the husband of Diane Feinstein is an export banker who makes his money off international trade. Hence things happen like Britain importing and exporting at the same time 115 million gallons of milk Basicly a senseless idea. Back in the 1930s a British politician Oswald Mosley visited the US and stated that the secret to our success was that we made everything in the USA and our money stayed here. At the time Britain had exported jobs to empire countries where workers could be paid in cans of cat food. BRitish workers were on the dole and lived in slums as a result. Mosley was head of the British facist movement. This shift in production sites had a horrible effect on the British people in that they suffered from disease and poor diet as a result. Compared side by side the British soldier of WWII was physically inferior to the German soldier who had been raised under Adolf. We are in the position of the British people then. Our jobs have been exported along with our wealth as a people. We are being flooded with cheap unskilled labor to compete for jobs that are not there. I recall the 1950s not a perfect time but people had good homes and could afford to buy a good American built car. we had a strong military and we had pride in being an American. Being an American was like being the greatest thing on earth. When Obama was elected he went around apologizing and bowed to foreign kings What other president bowed to foreign kings like he did. Socially what was right is now wrong. VAlue systems have been turned on their heads. It is a time of tremendous change and deep down inside people realize it is wrong and they lack the ability to say so effectively. We had a strong country that worked and it being remade into God know what because I dont
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Post by randy on Dec 11, 2012 1:33:57 GMT -6
Hey good news for all you drone fans they say that in five years drones will be armed with lasers able to shoot down aircraft or perhaps able to pursue and engage fleeing criminals as was stated in an earlier article on drones
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Post by randy on Dec 13, 2012 0:35:48 GMT -6
Gets better and better. Now they are installing lamp posts that can film and record your conversations plus they have a loud speaker. Now you really can talk to lamp posts and they will answer you back. the loud speakers will be able to announce the latest executive orders and they will be able to broadcast calls to prayer nice an handy
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Post by randy on Dec 14, 2012 23:49:56 GMT -6
What happens to all the data bits collected on people? It goes to the National Counter Terrorizm Center where it stored. It is possible they may have a file on you. While they consider flying the flag, having a food storage program and owning gold to be signs of terrorism they ignore terrorists. An Iragi immigrant bombed an Office of Social Security recently but the FBI stated it was not terrorism. the suspect helped over throw the Govt of Saddam by bombings and then came here. Now he is bombing again but he is not a terrorist? The collection of data by the NCTC is to predict future terrorists. Kind of like the movie The Minority Report with tom Cruz Get arrested for some thing you have not done yet
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Post by skywalker on Dec 15, 2012 20:48:28 GMT -6
There is no computer big enough to hold the file they have on me.
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Post by randy on Dec 16, 2012 23:49:09 GMT -6
the current model smart Samsung TV can be hacked to film and record what happens in your home. Preventing that voids the warranty.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2012 6:44:11 GMT -6
Gets better and better. Now they are installing lamp posts that can film and record your conversations plus they have a loud speaker. Now you really can talk to lamp posts and they will answer you back. the loud speakers will be able to announce the latest executive orders and they will be able to broadcast calls to prayer nice an handy ___________________________________________________ How many of you try to watch and be aware of everything that happens in your head? Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=et&thread=2977&page=1#37017#ixzz2FJQkBhQT___________________________________________________ Am I stretching to put these two comments together? ;D
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Post by plutronus on Dec 17, 2012 14:57:42 GMT -6
Gets better and better. Now they are installing lamp posts that can film and record your conversations plus they have a loud speaker. Now you really can talk to lamp posts and they will answer you back. the loud speakers will be able to announce the latest executive orders and they will be able to broadcast calls to prayer nice an handy ___________________________________________________ How many of you try to watch and be aware of everything that happens in your head?Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=et&thread=2977&page=1#37017#ixzz2FJQkBhQT___________________________________________________ Am I stretching to put these two comments together? ;D Hi JCurio,
>How many of you try to watch and be aware of everything that happens in your head?
I work to do so every morning upon awakening from the night's respite, and everyday as I have moments of idleness, such as sitting on the throne, or driving, and when I retire for the evening repast. I work to awaken into the reality of Mind. I do this by repeating and visualizing the Divine Alef-Beyt of Hebrew letters, Divine formulas for (awakening) opening the gates between the Sphirot in my energy-template, the One Tree-Of-Life. By simply 'holding' certain Hebrew letters in consciousness while repeating the root mantra, my consciousness fills 'intended' paths to the gates, where the guardians watch, the AnGeLs of our stations-of-consciousness and as illustrated by example in the Holy Tarot. This is a process that I do every day and every night, since 1998.
However, most folks have no idea how their consciousness works and worse, have no clue how to learn how it works, aside from the scientific method. And because of this, they don't have the ability to be 'aware' of the 'everything' processes happening inside one's consciousness or 'head'. In fact, it is the primary task of those who are seeking to 'awaken' to learn how to de-program themselves (clear their qlifa) out of the reactionary 'memory-reality' lives that Humans live as evolving animals.
Wanna a glimpse of what I intend by this? Recall, if you will those behaviors of kittens and cats. I like to use cats for most folks have seen a cat that will go to exactly the same spot in their poo-poo box, scratch on an devoid-of-sand spot, as though there is sand there, yet they still scratch the imaginary 'sand'. This is an example of rabbit-habit, or just re-playing the tape, over and over, irregardless of the real-time sensory perception information being fed to the brain, as the cat is relying on memory, rather than the senses. Most Humans operate in similar manners, everyday, only it is not as obvious.
This reality is one that ET utilize in their 'stealth' strategies in dealing with Humans, as certain ET understand Human cognitive behaviors very well, and by utilizing various understandings of how we 'remember' rather than sense, they are often able to hide from us in plain view and they/and their-craft simply 'disappear' from our cognitive-space as we 'overlay' our perception of their presence with memory instead of real-time sensory information.
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