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Post by skywalker on Dec 29, 2011 13:30:48 GMT -6
I guess when sky was hanging out with his camera in this area nothing showed up! ;D Nope, I did not see anything unusual. I was awake most of the night looking. What time do the lights normally show up? That was a pretty good viewing location that you told me about. It was up on a hill with almost a 360 degree paannamic view of the city. I had to deliver a load (at 2 am ) to the Sam's Club just north of the Interstate from there and their parking lot also has a pretty good view looking south. The lights from the parking lot are kind of bright though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2011 13:33:33 GMT -6
Because this is so close to the geographical location, and the fact I can relate so much with this sighting, I decided to post it. I found it on ufostalker.com. Case Number: 34357 Log Number: US-12282011-0002 Submitted Date: 2011-12-28 12:11 GMT Event Date: 2011-12-25 00:00 GMT Status: Assigned City: Leawood Region: Kansas Country: US Longitude: -94.6169012 Latitude: 38.966673 Shape: Unknown Duration: 00:04:00 Distance: 500 feet or less Description: At midnight on Christmas, 12/25/2011, my son and I decided to take our dog for a walk. We were walking south in the 13000 block of Roe in Leawood, KS. when we spotted two amber/orange lights approaching approx 30 degrees in the sky, as if they were from an aircraft. We thought the color was odd for an approaching aircraft. The lights were fairly close together and horizontal from one another. They then grew a little further apart and then became vertical in their positioning with one another, as if the craft was in a 90 degree banking position. We thought that wasn't possible if it was an aircraft. The lights then moved next to one another and stopped and hovered for about 15 seconds. At this point they were about 30 degrees off the horizon and made no sound. It was eerily quiet. We were stopped in our tracks in awe wondering what in the world we were experiencing!! It was definately not an airplane! Initially we thought it was one craft with two lights, but now we believe the lights are on two separate craft. At this time of night there is no traffic on the street at all. All of a sudden the lead light starts to fade and appears to change direction to the south so the light disappears. Seconds later the second light does the same. Just at that moment one car (the only car we saw that night) headed south on Roe stops and the two occupants asked if we just saw what they saw. They were excited like us and we talked for approx 30 seconds. They couldn't believe what they saw as well and had no explanation for the sighting. We all thought that what we saw was crazy, unbelievable and incredible!! I contacted the local FOX affiliate the next morning and they advised me that there were no other reports of sightings on Christmas night. ******************************************************************************************************** ******************************************************************************************************** quote from case above : These could've been chinese candles that they saw, I dont know. Being Christmas night is even more coincidental . The way they observed them at a horizontal angle and then banked 90* is how the ones I saw acted also but the objects I witnessed stuck around for a long time before leaving and I know how chinese candles look and move. I wonder if these witnesses know the difference . I made an error when determining degrees in all of my sightings. I was taught that a closed fist held straight out is 5 degrees. It turns out I guess that it is more like 10 which is double what I had previously learned years ago . This would put the objects which I witnessed at about 30 degrees also in heighth when they first approached my area and then they came down and one hovered right above the ground while the other moved around up,down, left and right at about an avg. of 10-15 degrees. If I were to guess the altitude of the objects which I witnessed when I first saw them, I would have to say they were between 500-1000 or more depending on the distance . I know for certain that none of the objects I have reported were chinese lanterns.
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Post by skywalker on Dec 29, 2011 13:48:17 GMT -6
Chinese lanterns are very easily recognizable to anybody who knows what a Chinese lantern is. The lights in Shami's video were not lanterns.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2011 14:51:11 GMT -6
"That was a pretty good viewing location that you told me about. It was up on a hill with almost a 360 degree paannamic view of the city." Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=ufos&thread=1840&page=4#20606#ixzz1hxNV3sNNAnything for a friend, sky! I'm glad you liked it! You can see why I'm looking for a parking place up there . Yeah, the lights of Sams club probably ruined that view. And just for notation, as you are aware, Independence Center (Mall) is just adjacent to Sams, and I would be traveling south from there to head towards Lees Summit, and can't recall seeing anything odd from that actual travel route. At first I just saw things around Douglas rd. and the airport of Lees Summit, that were worth noting. But I've also seen larger (notable) things around 40 hiway traveling west, 40 hiway and Woods Chapel rd., Woods Chapel rd and 470 highway, Colbern rd and 470, and Lake Jacomo (Fleming Park). I've seen small (not notable until recently) things off 470 traveling west towards the grandview and Kansas exits. Just (?) lights in the sky, much like Lois' recent video of the "Christmas house". Not Chinese laterns, or the like. An oddity for sure, but not like seeing something bigger than the nose on your face. It's been long enough now, that i'm losing track of things that I might have talked about on the m. forum. A couple of summers ago, at a friends house after a funeral, I saw a completely black triangle above their driveway, near Raytown Rd. and 87th st. I just got "lucky" seeing it. It looked like a "black bat kite" stuck in a tree, but no tree and no string. It was large, I could imagine people (humans) in it looking down on me, I don't know why I looked up, and I immediately went inside the house. I remembered feeling "angry" that it was there. The driveway was very dark with only one street light nearby. I know because I tried to take some pictures of my friends in that driveway with my cell phone, and it didn't work out. The Spring before that, I'm thinking Spring, 2010, I had gone back up to my job around 6:00 p.m. briefly. I was walking fast from my car to the front door of the building, and I felt COMPELLED to look up. I didn't stop walking. Too intent on my thoughts?? But I still want to shake myself about the whole deal. Even shaking myself to the point of does the mind imagine something so big? It was like having a small airplane within 50-75 feet over your head. Like some plane dangling from the ceiling of a hangar and a person can just walk around underneath it admiring . It was that still. No noise. And it was still light outside. I should have immediately drawn what I saw. I went inside my job, did whatever I needed to do, didn't tell anyone, came back out, and it was gone. About 6 mo. after that, for the first time ever, a former student of mine asked me if I believed in "ufos". The question came from nowhere, I said yes, and we briefly talked about "ufos" in the area.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2011 15:20:33 GMT -6
"Jc, what do you think it was that you saw ? Could you see a shape of any kind ? " Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=ufos&thread=1840&page=4#ixzz1hxWdloZiShape: Touched, do you remember the original cartoon "Speed Racer"? How Speed's white car looked? Or a better example: how you'd expect "Batman's" one-seat plane to look. All curves around engines, with edges. Turbine looking things where I saw the lights. A light on each end; different colors. I thought it was a triangle shape at first. But more like a "bat plane". That's why I thought "fighter-jet" (old-school type). I have no idea what it was. But I'm thinking that even Steve is thinking about agreeing with me that some of these things have the ability to "go invisible". Like, radar could catch them, but the human eye cannot. Surely the nearby Lees Summit airport is curious about the extra air traffic lately? And if so, do we have some government types around also? As I said before, the weirdest thing about this area is the amount of TOWERS around. And a very large crane working on a nearby hospital. These towers and crane, etc. have bright red lights on them at intervals all the way up to their tops. Not the best area for a low-flying plane or even a helicopter. Sky, have you driven thru here? 470 hiway and Douglas? I'll be around here again tonight. I go to my back therapy on Douglas. as for Time: for me, between 8:00 p.m. and 11:00 p.m for past sightings. The other night was 6:30 p.m. I have gone through here as late as 2:00 am and never saw a thing. One more thing, that will sound "fringe" . February 2010 I was in a courthouse of Kansas City, Mo., in a lobby area, talking with someone. Normal voices, and if I remember correctly, we got on the topic of mystery by my companion mentioning that island with the bottomless treasure pit. I then said something like "Have you heard about Stephenville?" I was looking around the room while talking, and had just walked over to two empty seats to sit down. Across the room, 3 people (lawyer-looking) in suits ever -so-casually turned at the same time and looked at me. Two men and one woman. Their conversation seemed to stop, I felt a "void" (like time stands still), and we kept looking at each other as I sat down. My companion said "no", I looked at my companion, changed the subject, and didn't look towards those people again.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2011 23:57:32 GMT -6
Just checking in Visibility was good this evening in area I previously mentioned. I saw a normal, small plane starting its descent over Douglas rd. Very obvious it was a plane.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2011 1:08:13 GMT -6
Chinese lanterns are very easily recognizable to anybody who knows what a Chinese lantern is. The lights in Shami's video were not lanterns. I agree ! I'm so glad for her getting these things on video,whatever they are .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2011 1:18:39 GMT -6
"Jc, what do you think it was that you saw ? Could you see a shape of any kind ? " Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=ufos&thread=1840&page=4#ixzz1hxWdloZiShape: Touched, do you remember the original cartoon "Speed Racer"? How Speed's white car looked? Or a better example: how you'd expect "Batman's" one-seat plane to look. All curves around engines, with edges. Turbine looking things where I saw the lights. A light on each end; different colors. I thought it was a triangle shape at first. But more like a "bat plane". That's why I thought "fighter-jet" (old-school type). I have no idea what it was. But I'm thinking that even Steve is thinking about agreeing with me that some of these things have the ability to "go invisible". Like, radar could catch them, but the human eye cannot. Surely the nearby Lees Summit airport is curious about the extra air traffic lately? And if so, do we have some government types around also? As I said before, the weirdest thing about this area is the amount of TOWERS around. And a very large crane working on a nearby hospital. These towers and crane, etc. have bright red lights on them at intervals all the way up to their tops. Not the best area for a low-flying plane or even a helicopter. Sky, have you driven thru here? 470 hiway and Douglas? I'll be around here again tonight. I go to my back therapy on Douglas. as for Time: for me, between 8:00 p.m. and 11:00 p.m for past sightings. The other night was 6:30 p.m. I have gone through here as late as 2:00 am and never saw a thing. One more thing, that will sound "fringe" . February 2010 I was in a courthouse of Kansas City, Mo., in a lobby area, talking with someone. Normal voices, and if I remember correctly, we got on the topic of mystery by my companion mentioning that island with the bottomless treasure pit. I then said something like "Have you heard about Stephenville?" I was looking around the room while talking, and had just walked over to two empty seats to sit down. Across the room, 3 people (lawyer-looking) in suits ever -so-casually turned at the same time and looked at me. Two men and one woman. Their conversation seemed to stop, I felt a "void" (like time stands still), and we kept looking at each other as I sat down. My companion said "no", I looked at my companion, changed the subject, and didn't look towards those people again. Thanks Jc for providing more details about it. It must've been cool to see ! It does seem odd to have any type of craft flying around with high structures. All is quiet here in SWMO.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2011 8:35:38 GMT -6
It was very cool to see , thanks! My reaction is becoming rather strange, IMO. Whenever I first see the "odd plane" I find myself saying "Oh Come On! Really?!" (like, "not again", almost disgusted). There is still that sense of wonder, and wanting to stop the car. But underneath that is the feeling that I'm being "toyed with" . If this was happening in my vision 10-20 yrs. ago I would have been asking a dr. to check my brain ;D. Thanks for giving us an update, too!
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Post by skywalker on Dec 30, 2011 13:23:45 GMT -6
I've driven through that part of Kansas City many times, Jc. Always keep my eyes on the skies just in case.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2011 14:42:20 GMT -6
It was very cool to see , thanks! My reaction is becoming rather strange, IMO. Whenever I first see the "odd plane" I find myself saying "Oh Come On! Really?!" (like, "not again", almost disgusted). There is still that sense of wonder, and wanting to stop the car. But underneath that is the feeling that I'm being "toyed with" . If this was happening in my vision 10-20 yrs. ago I would have been asking a dr. to check my brain ;D. Thanks for giving us an update, too! Jc, I can wholeheartedly agree with every word you wrote in this reply . If you notice, I didnt report the orange orbs right away. It took me some time to think about what had happened and if I was going to say anything because so much has already happened . I felt for awhile I was being "toyed with" and still do at times. Im pretty sure I am, and many of us are. I have no need to get my "brain checked",lol ,,, but I know the feeling you're talking about because sometimes its enough to make a person feel like this stuff just isnt right when we all know for sure it truly is happening.
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Post by lois on Dec 30, 2011 15:42:30 GMT -6
I just downloaded a video I took in Cape in Mo. over Christmas, it has to be a bird but it is hard to understand if a bird. They do not fly standing up on their tail with breast and wings showing like a human facing you.. very strange ..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 2:49:45 GMT -6
Here's another case from UFO Stalker involving 2 orange orbs :
Detail for Event ID 34752
Case Number: 34752 Log Number: US-01092012-0018 Submitted Date: 2012-01-09 17:46 GMT Event Date: 2012-01-08 19:10 GMT Status: Assigned City: Parkville Region: Missouri Country: US Longitude: -94.6821806 Latitude: 39.1950029 Shape: Circle,Fireball Distance: Over one mile Description
My wife and kids were driving along 45 highway heading here on January 8th around 7:10 pm. We were travelling westbound on 45 highway and all of the sudden to the south of 45 highway there were two bright orange orbs in the sky above the treeline . One orb was still and the other orb was going around it in circles. I then proceeded to pull off of the highway so my wife could take pictures of it and with the blink of an eye they were gone . Now I do know Ft. Leavenworth is close to this area . Could it have been some military operation at night ? I have no idea. All I know is I saw something last night and hopefully someone else saw the same thing .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 2:55:29 GMT -6
The case above is eerily similar to what I saw Oct. 20th. 2011. I know how these people must feel !! Something is going on around here.
Im going to mention something for the record that I saw tonight. I dont think it was a sighting, but just in case.
I took my dogs out like always and saw an orange light through the cedar trees. It was in a place that nothing would be at, except an open field followed by a creek about an 1/8th of a mile from my house.
At first I thought, and still stay reserved, that it could've been someone walking with either a lantern or a flashlight around the creek area. I then walked to a clearing to get a better look after seeing it twice and heard a noise like woosh woosh woosh woosh over and over again for several minutes. This was about 11:15 p.m.
I dont know who or why someone would be walking out in the middle of nowhere that time of night, especially as cold as it was. I listened for any signs of talking or other noises besides that and there were none. Coyotes have been coming extremely close to my house tonight( large packs) a couple different times also but that's common .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 10:37:11 GMT -6
Whew. That's scary Cliff...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2012 0:01:56 GMT -6
"I dont know who or why someone would be walking out in the middle of nowhere that time of night, especially as cold as it was. I listened for any signs of talking or other noises besides that and there were none." Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=ufos&thread=1840&page=5#21236#ixzz1j7taR67nWould you have gone and checked it out if there wasn't coyotes out there? This sends shivers down my spine; the idea of "someone" walking around out there dangling a lantern. Sounds like old stories where any one who went looking disappeared. Makes me think of that "Eduardo" Billy guy, who after being contacted telepathically (?) just went on his own whenever to check things out. Somehow this is crreeepier; being lured outside by some light, and no voices. be careful, friend
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2012 3:37:40 GMT -6
"I dont know who or why someone would be walking out in the middle of nowhere that time of night, especially as cold as it was. I listened for any signs of talking or other noises besides that and there were none." Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=ufos&thread=1840&page=5#21236#ixzz1j7taR67nWould you have gone and checked it out if there wasn't coyotes out there? This sends shivers down my spine; the idea of "someone" walking around out there dangling a lantern. Sounds like old stories where any one who went looking disappeared. be careful, friend I walked down there a few nights ago with one of my dogs to the bridge but didn't go in the wooded area itself, I just stayed on the road. The coyotes showed up about an hour after seeing the light and stayed around the rest of the night. There have been deer coming very close to my home , turkey too. The deer and turkey were actually in my yard (which is rare in daylight) the two days prior and leading up to the orange orb incident. I have good pics of the 5 turkey that day. As for going there when there are lights ,,,,, no way !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2012 5:33:35 GMT -6
Good for You! Have to admit, all those critters coming to you for protection/safety/human love is kinda cute. ;D
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Post by lois on Jan 11, 2012 17:30:33 GMT -6
Here's another case from UFO Stalker involving 2 orange orbs : Detail for Event ID 34752 Case Number: 34752 Log Number: US-01092012-0018 Submitted Date: 2012-01-09 17:46 GMT Event Date: 2012-01-08 19:10 GMT Status: Assigned City: Parkville Region: Missouri Country: US Longitude: -94.6821806 Latitude: 39.1950029 Shape: Circle,Fireball Distance: Over one mile Description My wife and kids were driving along 45 highway heading here on January 8th around 7:10 pm. We were travelling westbound on 45 highway and all of the sudden to the south of 45 highway there were two bright orange orbs in the sky above the treeline . One orb was still and the other orb was going around it in circles. I then proceeded to pull off of the highway so my wife could take pictures of it and with the blink of an eye they were gone . Now I do know Ft. Leavenworth is close to this area . Could it have been some military operation at night ? I have no idea. All I know is I saw something last night and hopefully someone else saw the same thing . Media : None Two orange orbs. that is what I caught on tape ..two of them.. should keep the camera on them had I known they were there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2012 2:45:28 GMT -6
Here's another case from UFO Stalker involving 2 orange orbs : Detail for Event ID 34752 Case Number: 34752 Log Number: US-01092012-0018 Submitted Date: 2012-01-09 17:46 GMT Event Date: 2012-01-08 19:10 GMT Status: Assigned City: Parkville Region: Missouri Country: US Longitude: -94.6821806 Latitude: 39.1950029 Shape: Circle,Fireball Distance: Over one mile Description My wife and kids were driving along 45 highway heading here on January 8th around 7:10 pm. We were travelling westbound on 45 highway and all of the sudden to the south of 45 highway there were two bright orange orbs in the sky above the treeline . One orb was still and the other orb was going around it in circles. I then proceeded to pull off of the highway so my wife could take pictures of it and with the blink of an eye they were gone . Now I do know Ft. Leavenworth is close to this area . Could it have been some military operation at night ? I have no idea. All I know is I saw something last night and hopefully someone else saw the same thing . Media : None Two orange orbs. that is what I caught on tape ..two of them.. should keep the camera on them had I known they were there. Im glad you did get them Lois,,,great job catching them orange thinga- ma -jiggers !
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2012 1:12:09 GMT -6
I put what "spooked" me on the personal experience page . Last night I parked my van at a secluded area near the airport. Before I even got the van shut off, 2 other vehicles came to this spot and turned around; I think I took someone else's spot :0. Kind of funny, but we didn't laugh. I'm sure both vehicles were able to find another place. We got there at dusk and stayed until 8:10 pm. Can see and hear the highway, the airport, and fields and fields in the "new territory" adjacent to lake jacomo/fleming park. These roads have "always" been here, but are now more than gravel, more than one lane, and more people are using them. A relative of mine had to give up some of his property when Woods Chapel Road was widened. It used to be the only paved/used road. The Jackson County sheriff's office is also nearby. As far as I know, this area is clear of "hauntings" or rumors thereof. Farther south we have Longview Lake and the old Longview Farm; it has old rumors, and a personal experience of mine ) Anyway, what we saw last nite sounds like a plane, never landed at the airport while we were there, and moved very slowly around the area. It wasn't the same thing I saw the week of Oct. 8 (smaller), but it turned sideways and seemed to hover in that position. We got one picture (moving, with digital camera) and I had both my dtrs. separately draw what we saw, and we didn't compare their drawings until we got home. We all heard it sound like a plane (not a helicopter, and not a jet). Sometimes we "lost sight of it". One of my dtrs. spent time looking on the internet later looking at "triangle shaped ufo" and had me look to compare what they saw and drew. I may post their drawings tonight. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2012 3:30:22 GMT -6
Jc, this looks very similar to the one that I saw that disappeared. Im going to send a pm and direct you to a site that may explain this,,,it sure helped me understand what it was. Im thinking it may be a TR-3B.
You're not alone in this,,,there are many witnesses !!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2012 3:35:51 GMT -6
Woahhh... you uploaded it to the forum directly? I wish I knew how to do that...
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Post by skywalker on Feb 2, 2012 10:06:54 GMT -6
What are the little square thingies along the sides?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2012 0:09:11 GMT -6
Please check out the pics I put from ATS and the drawing ;D . (there's a reason WHY touched sent me a "pm" instead of outright telling everyone . I was able to locate SOME information, but was redirected to ?bunk? mostly)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2012 0:21:14 GMT -6
This one is VERY close. If you go back and look at the disappearing triangle description in my experiences section you'll see that although it was fuzzy looking ,,, I described 3 round circles at each (corner) . Except for watching a magician cause things to "disappear" Ive NEVER witnessed nothing like this before just vanish ! This happened almost directly over my head just after sunset. There were no lights that I could see but the object was greyish black, and "distorted" in appearance. I can see jets with clarity at high altitudes,,,,,this wasnt a jet ! No high cirrus clouds,,,,,no terminator,,,,,there and gone.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2012 0:36:30 GMT -6
Please check out the pics I put from ATS and the drawing ;D . (there's a reason WHY touched sent me a "pm" instead of outright telling everyone . I was able to locate SOME information, but was redirected to ?bunk? mostly) Hmmmm,,,,Im curious Jc . Not about the other,,,just the redirected to ?bunk? Please let me know,,,,thanks Edit: Now I understand,,,you got "diverted" ;D
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2012 23:11:22 GMT -6
Edit: Now I understand,,,you got "diverted" (from touched) __________________________________________________________________________ You are correct . But obviously I was incorrect about why you put the information in a pm only. May I ask, why did you pm that information specifically?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2012 22:32:03 GMT -6
Edit: Now I understand,,,you got "diverted" (from touched) __________________________________________________________________________ You are correct . But obviously I was incorrect about why you put the information in a pm only. May I ask, why did you pm that information specifically? I didn't want to mention a members name from another forum publicly without his consent (although it is public information---including his credentials and background which he personally has disclosed publicly). Its just something Id rather not do personally out of respect (not that I feel its wrong if anyone else does) but I thought you might find his research and articles interesting. I felt by letting you know about the article(s) it might help you understand better what we both had witnessed like it did for me. Basically, just trying to help by giving a referral.
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