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Post by randy on Mar 28, 2012 0:32:45 GMT -6
while being trained by the greys as part of a group of 4 boys we would meet in the base with John the adult human like critter that lead the meetings. the meeting would start with two questions asked of us. first "Does anyone know we are here?" and second "Does anyone suspect we are here?" It was implied that such folk would be silenced. We would also be asked who in the local human community should be taken over and controlled by the greys They wanted to know about leaders and people with power to control. Obviously they had and still have plans. Since I was initially questioned 50 yrs ago they have had a long time to spread out among the local and far beyond. how far is the question. One kid who lived on my street went to the Air Force Academy and another who lived locally went to annapolis How many others went to military academies is an open question since then. Marin county Calif is a wealthy area full of movers and shakers with tremendous combined power. It would be easy to spread control to the state capitol and to San Francisco and from there to Washington. the potential subversion is mind boggling as the greys have time on their side. they can raise a kid up to be a leader in govt with support from powerful people who are controlled. In the event of invasion by the greys where is our defense. Current plans are for a total nuclear capacity of 300 bombs down from over 31,000 during the cold war era. Ready fighters to protect Calif are a total of 6 currently. the planned figure is none. Fighters can reach Calif in 24 hrs under the new plan until then oh well. During the 1950s we were ready for war with planes and crews standing by 24/7 Now Admiral nagumo with the Pearl Harbor strike force could rule the skies over LA for 24 hrs Does anyone else see a problem in planning here? how far does the influence of the greys extend to date?
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Post by skywalker on Mar 28, 2012 20:21:14 GMT -6
How do you know that those kids were just kids? Maybe they were really hybrids. Or maybe they were really grays in disguise. How do you know that you aren't one of them? Maybe they programmed you to go out and spread disinfo around. I would still like to know where this base is so I can go look at it. Is it visible on Google Earth? Do you know the coordinates?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2012 20:47:08 GMT -6
I would still like to know where this base is so I can go look at it. Is it visible on Google Earth? Do you know the coordinates? I wanna go too ! You go through the front skywalker and I'll go in the back and then we can go Rambo on these little critters and kick some grey booty ;D .
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Post by skywalker on Mar 29, 2012 11:57:46 GMT -6
Hoo-ahh!! I like that plan. We can capture one of them and force him to admit that he really exists. ;D
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Post by plutronus on Mar 29, 2012 19:57:48 GMT -6
I would still like to know where this base is so I can go look at it. Is it visible on Google Earth? Do you know the coordinates? Touched quipped,
I wanna go too 8-) ! You go through the front skywalker and I'll go in the back and then we can go Rambo on these little critters and kick some grey booty ;D . SkyWalker, Touched,
And I'll sit on the top cracking those Grey heads "like cracking Cadbury Eggs" as they come running out...it'd be a good day.
I "quoted" an excerpt from a FracTenna post I read in the old SETI-L list in 1995, where I was a member. FracTenna is an RF engineer who invented the famous 2.2 GHz microwave fractal antenna for usage in SETI microwave search.
FracTenna posted that he awakened during an abduction to find that he was supine..laying on his back with several Greys leaning over him, he reached up, grabbing the Grey nearest him, by the Grey's head with both hands and squeezed, he said he heard a cracking sound, similar to that of an egg-shell cracking, the Grey making a high pitch (~8 KHz) loud volume sound from its tiny mouth slit, as his fingers punched through the skull, a creamy liquid oozed out around his fingers as he continued to press inward, the Grey seemed to 'go loose', sliding downward, FracTenna let go. As FracTenna was attempting to get up, he again passed out, awakening back in his home. His hands were still sticky with a gooey like substance on them. The other members of the SETI-L list went silent. Later, I was told off-list by one of the SETI scientists with whom I had a friendly association, that the other SETI members considered FracTenna at times to be 'crazy', although I found FracTenna's posts to be intelligent, well informed about all of the subjects he posted, which were mostly technical subjects regarding RF amplifiers, antenna dBu sun-noise measurements, power-spectral-densities of BIN sweeps...SETI stuff, etc, including only two alien-subject posts that I saw him post over a three year period.
SkyWalker said: >I would still like to know where this base is...
I asked Randy this question about that 'base' on the old MUFON board three years ago, it'll be interesting to see what his answer is this time?
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Post by skywalker on Mar 30, 2012 18:24:17 GMT -6
If they built all that stuff around it maybe it is visible on Google Earth. I'm going to see if I can find it.
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Post by randy on Apr 2, 2012 0:13:40 GMT -6
the base is where it has always been in a hill on the northeast edge of Novato calif in a hill between Plum st where I lived as a kid and Atherton Ave on the north side of the hill. Summers st at the east end of Plum st points to the north like an arrow right to the base. It is not a postage stamp it is really quite large and multileveled. Feel free to go there but dont expect a big arrow pointing at the ground and a sign saying "Aliens here inquire within" Keep in mind it is not a game ti is deadly serious and by going you accept the risk involved. As I have posted my sister ended up getting shot between the eyes with an unknown object that gave her a severe concusion. When I was last there I was armed and considered seriously that I risked physical harm. Plainly put it is a war we are in and treat it as such. Go and see what you can find. Good luck. There is a part of things that I have wondered about myself. As a kid in 1 st grade I had an odd feeling of lose that involved pushing a large cart up a ramp with other kids my age having a large arab type head gear on. i flet I belonged there. Later I was going through the base as a kid in 5th grade looking for a way out to escape the greys when I ran into four small greys trying to push a over loaded cart of parts from the machine shop to the parts warehouse. they were so inept that I stopped to get them organized all pushing on one side instead of against each other.. later the idea of the cart of parts reminded me ot the sense of lose that i had as a young kid. An intereting coincidence but no way to prove anything. Of the team of 4 boys one I knew very well as he lived two houses down from me. The one who wore a brown suit all the time never said one single word and I know nothing about him The last kid was a mean vicious sadist who lacked all moral values what so ever. For some reason he felt that I was a threat to his position with the greys and I would be better at something than he was. I have no idea what that something was. For anyone who wants to go the hill dont advertize before you go and move fast once there of they will get you.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2012 10:43:10 GMT -6
Sounds like a beginning for your next vacation Sky...but maybe not going alone is a very good idea.
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Post by pigswillfly on Apr 2, 2012 18:34:49 GMT -6
I found the location of the hill (under which the alledged base was located) on google earth from a street address Randy provided. A photo was posted on the old Mufon board but the prospect of exploring the area caused objections from some of the membership due to privacy concerns. It sparked a big argument. The hill is on gov't land, I think it was Airforce but I'd have to look it up.
I spent hours researching Randy's claims and can verify he is who he says he is and did live in the area around the hill. It is an interesting county with an Airforce Base, now redeveloped, and is the centre of cutting-edge technology in the areas of bio-engineering medical research and CGG film industry. Some personnel on the board of one the medical research centres are also involved in weapons development and banking industry as major players.
As I said, it's an interesting area, and it's not beyond possibility that the Airforce was involved in black-ops bio-engineering and weapons development in this area too.
Nobody ever did visit the hill, if there ever was any military activity it would be hard to find traces of it now. I'm content to let Randy tell his tales because who knows what goes on behind the doors of these bio-engineering research centres.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2012 0:27:04 GMT -6
In fact..Randy's accounts are no more bizarre than many I've heard and from the time I started coming to these forums, he's never missed a beat nor changed his point. I don't know if an alien base exists there or did but I'd be willing to swear that something influenced Randy to believe it to be very real. I don't want to see anyone from this forum die for their efforts but before anyone casts a shadow..maybe a cautious look see?
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Post by randy on Apr 3, 2012 0:39:50 GMT -6
I have talked to a lawyer in Novato who some involvement with the hill as a teen. he recalls going there and that there are caverns in the hill but that is all he will admit. he talks much and says nothing as lawyers do. he did say that some people he knew were on the hill and were ordered off by paramilitary type men in military like clothes. They did not argue about leaving. a friend who was on the hill with me went back with another friend and two men walked towards them one with a football like thing in his hand and the other with an ivory like staff. the FRiend started filming the two they turned around and left going to a van My friend followed them in his car to see where they went but lost them in the town of Novato. the film of the men did not turn out but film on either side of that footage was fine. My friend no longer wants anything to do with UFO research for some reason. the foot like device reminded me of the fact that at the start of meetings with John in the base he would come in with a football which was not threatening normally. However I noted that on the back of the football were 4 brown knobs and that John would look at each of use and appeared to turn the knobs as he looked at us. I felt that he was fine tuning a device that controlled us at the time. again this suggests an implant of some sort. how do you discribe something that is totally alien and beyond the experience of most people. I also noted at the time that looking at some doorways they appeared black but i also realized that my vision was being controlled in some manner. i did not care because I already knew what was there so they were not really protecting anything from me. Looking directly at the doors they appeared black but using side vision I could see through the doors and by rapidly shifting my vision I could get glimpses through the doors. Since the football in Johns hands was a control device the football like thing in the hands of one of the men my friend saw could also have been a control device. The ivory staff may have been some kind of capture device. Filming them scared them away obviously at any rate. As a side issue one of the people I suggested be taken over as a kid is now very wealthy and a large land owner in Marin co. he did well. to my knowledge the hill is private land except for the cell phone tower on top which is run bu the govt. There were several govt carry alls there parked inside the chain link fencing with plate numbers within a few numbers of each other. Rather implies a number of people there to need carry alls like that to transport them Why are the feds involved with a cell phone tower? while attending college of Marin the local jr college I saw geologic map of Marin co. dated 1946 that showed a tunnel in the hill right where the landing bay entrace was that I found. This tunnel was numbered on the map and the number on the legend was a question mark indicating the maker of the map knew the tunnel was there but did not know the reason for it being there like copper lead gold or what ever. It was not a mine folks. since then I have not been able to find an older geologic map showing the tunnel new versions have been sanitized. Would seem to indicate that the base was under construction just after WWII just after we exploded an atomic bomb. By 1957 when i was in the base there were still rooms that were empty or just having equipment being installed in them. I wondered what became of you Pigswillfly
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2012 12:08:29 GMT -6
...interesting...
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Post by auntym on Apr 3, 2012 12:12:55 GMT -6
randy...i've always been fascinated by what you have to say... i'm glad you're back & i hope you stay ...
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Post by CitizenK on Apr 3, 2012 23:51:42 GMT -6
Randy, good to see you here...I want to ask your opinion on all this "talk" lately in various places on the net about another race a third party that plans to intervene and take out the "cabal" leaders and help humanity get through these troubling changing times... I must admit that having an outside race finally being able to intervene sounds wonderful, and yes to me it would make sense that something a time line or whatever was keeping that from happening before, perhaps even humanity's readiness to grow spiritually or awaken was what they had to wait for, I don't know. However, I am on the fence with this "savior" scenario. For one, I do not feel that humans need a savior so to speak, even though they seem to think they need it. I also don't think it is wise to just trust other beings who claim to be coming to help us , for various reasons, one being the scientist fella who several yrs. ago before his death warned that the last "card to be played" would be alien threat...so I am not sure what to think of all of this though I am feeling like something huge is upon us and it will change all of us and teh way we live for good and in a good way. No, I'm not touting new age bs just my own experience of being told by a loud voice many yrs. ago to start getting prepared and now I know what that meant and my intuition says it's here. (as does many others') SO I really want your honest take on this and I realize that you have much anger and hurt from your experiences, which is very understandable, but that aside with no prejudice , what does your intuition tell you of all of this? Peace , K
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2012 11:34:14 GMT -6
I think we need all the 'saviors' we can get..as long as they actually have our best interests at heart
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Post by skywalker on Apr 4, 2012 20:43:35 GMT -6
Sounds like a beginning for your next vacation Sky...but maybe not going alone is a very good idea. Cool! I am definitely there!
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Post by randy on Apr 8, 2012 10:25:23 GMT -6
I dont know about other aliens. My experiences have been limited to greys and related. Humanity should not trust its fate to another species no matter how kindly they may seem at first. Contact with an advanced race has always met huge changes in the race that is less advanced. Throw in different species and the mix can get very complicated fast. We are primates but we eat monkeys. An advanced species could view us as dust in the way of progress.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2012 11:41:16 GMT -6
I think we have to walk a middle line when it comes to visiting visitors..we would be well advised to keep an open mind albeit a cautious one. In all likelihood..if they are that advanced..we don't have the means to defend so we'd better hope the agenda is a peaceful one. Steve Hawking seems to think we'd be in trouble..hope he's wrong.
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Post by paulette on Apr 8, 2012 13:31:05 GMT -6
Don't forget the movie Mars Attack (someone posted the wonderful scene where Jack Nicholson, as President welcomes them - and they skewer him).
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Post by skywalker on Apr 8, 2012 14:33:08 GMT -6
Randy's Underground Alien Base in Marin countyI found the location on Google Earth of the alledged alien base that Randy claims is in Marin County, California. Here are some photos. This is an overview of the hill which is located in between Plum Street and Atherton Avenue on the northeast edge of Novato. The hill is named Cherry Hill. There appears to be some type of construction going on there, or at least there is an area that is cleared of vegetation. I thought perhaps they were expanding the residential neighborhood but there does not appear to be any more houses than there was ten years ago. The next two are a comparison between what the location looks like today (2011) and what it looked like before. The bottom photo is from 2002. I found earlier photos that went back to 1993 but they looked the same as the 2002 photo except they were in black and white rather than color. While I was looking at the photos I noticed a spot that didn't look quite right to me so I decided to take a closer look. The red arrow in the photo below is pointing to the weird location. This is what it looked like when I zoomed in closer. Obviously some of those "trees" were painted on. So is the little yellow square building. Google sometimes whites out certain things that they don't want people to see for some reason (like certain parts of the images of Area 51) but I don't recall ever seeing an example of where they had painted on fake trees. I wonder what that is all about. Could there be something there or is it just a defect in the film that was corrected later on? The spot looks like some kind of a sewage runoff pond to me. Notice the fake trees in the middle? It may not mean anything but I'm suspicious of everything.
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Post by paulette on Apr 8, 2012 18:06:29 GMT -6
Wow! Fake trees on Google Earth. The plot thickens. They certainly don't look like real trees or any of the trees nearby. Good work Skywaker. Randy...after all these years of posting - people are taking your stories seriously. Glad you made it here...
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Post by lois on Apr 8, 2012 20:59:08 GMT -6
Where was Randy's house in this pic? I don't see the hill close to any homes.
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Post by skywalker on Apr 8, 2012 21:11:15 GMT -6
I think he lived down in the lower left area...somewhere down there. I think he was close to the big patch of dirt.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2012 22:36:18 GMT -6
Well ..I see it this way..until something is proven to not be something..then it could be something ... ;D We're not even close to scratching the surface of the mysteries of this planet..at this point we're a bit like those monkeys with tools who woke up one day and said..owwww tool smashed finger..so THAT's what it does ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2012 0:32:39 GMT -6
sky, do me a favor? Widen the screen out a bit further and see if you see a small, 2 car-lane bridge. It would be over a mostly dry culvert but on a line with some hillside houses. . . just maybe. . .
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Post by skywalker on Apr 10, 2012 17:47:35 GMT -6
What happened at the bridge, Jc? Did I miss something? Was I not paying attention again?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 10:35:52 GMT -6
Napping again Sky? ;D
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Post by skywalker on Apr 11, 2012 16:25:35 GMT -6
Apparently so. I missed whatever happened at the bridge. I bet it was pretty cool too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2012 18:04:43 GMT -6
sky, do me a favor? Widen the screen out a bit further and see if you see a small, 2 car-lane bridge. It would be over a mostly dry culvert but on a line with some hillside houses. . . just maybe. . . Gasp What happened on What bridge? I just asked if you could widen out the screen pictures you shared with us ;D. I DON'T KNOW how to manipulate YOUR pictures, LOL. i'm just lookin'. I had a dream that looked like these pics, and just trying to match things up.....just maybe. I didn't 'xpect to make sense to nobody . Tis truly a favor me askin.
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Post by Steve on Apr 13, 2012 0:05:10 GMT -6
Looked at the painted trees. It is odd. However you can see the same property without the painted trees if you click to Google Mapmaker feature in the same Google Earth program. No painted trees or any apparent camo there in those images. Position location on your PC screen in Google earth, then go to upper left corner and click on 'File'. there click on Google Map Maker'. See same location without the painted in buildings and trees. The address in question in Google Earth lists this property as 575 Atherton Ave., Novato, Ca. 94945. Unfortunately the Map Maker program does not allow you oddly (Micro Soft programing is so weird and often so user unfriendly) to save an image without the painted trees, but you can still see for yourself. Studying closely - nothing appears strange there at that location. Many dead oak trees around from the lack of green. There is what appears to be a small barn or enclosure. Back area of property just looks neglected. One of the areas shows an animal pen and an enclosure (chickens?). Across from this animal pen seems to be a old trailer just under he shade of the trees out of view of the satellite. This seems to be what the painted trees are hiding in the other regular Google images. Maybe the person living in the trailer is living there in violation of zoning ordinances and does not want to be spotted on Google Earth by county tax assessors? Seems the Google programing can allow you to paint in like this. Randy's old address was 615 Plum street. About a mile away WSW from this location that attracted Sky's attention. The grated lots behind Plum Street next to Cherry Hill are likely lots for new home construction that went bust due to the recession. Probably still is that way. Not too uncommon in some areas of California. You left click with your mouse - the painted areas are highlighted as seen in these saved images (Google Earth, not Google Map Maker) Not to be confounded by Bill Gates and his MS programing, I took a digital image with my camera off my computer screen of the location on Google Maps without the paint 'makeup'. Google Map shows when viewed in 3D oblique angle the barn labeled in photo to be actually a half constructed house - showing a rudimentary roof and no exterior walls when photo was taken. The chicken pen is now gone. Steve Photo from Google Mapmaker (in contrast to Google Earth) of same area. maps.google.com/?ll=38.113792,-122.543598&spn=0.000601,0.000603&t=h°=180&z=21
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