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Post by ufo4peace on Apr 26, 2012 1:22:16 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2012 3:56:40 GMT -6
Skywalker, have some backbone. Don't let the inmates run the asylum and turn this place into Lord Of The Flies for thr BSers of the world. Don't let the inmates run the asylum? What exactly do you mean by that? Anyone is welcome to share their stories here. If Randy wants to post about his memories he is more than welcome to do so. If people want to believe his stories- they can. If people want to think it's just fiction- they can believe that too. What exactly are you suggesting? This is how I am interpreting what you meant when you posted that: You don't believe Randy so you think skywalker should tell people to not believe Randy's story. Is that what you mean by the LOTF reference? A lot of us here have had strange or unusual experiences. We like to share our stories here. If you don't believe Randy's story- that's fine. Randy has just as much of a right to tell his story as anyone else here. If you don't believe it- fine. Others here do believe him. If you don't like this thread, you can move on to other threads that you do like. There is no need to continue to repeat over and over again that you don't believe this story. Once is enough. I really don't think you're going to convince anyone to agree with you by repeating yourself and comparing Randy's story to a fictitious rotting pig's head... We get it. You don't believe him. Whining to the Admin about it is not going to help you convince others to agree with you. What do you want the Admin to do- tell everyone that Randy is a liar just because you think he is? ~shakes head~ Moving on...
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Post by god on Apr 26, 2012 8:03:22 GMT -6
"If someone always has a bizarre or unusual claim chances are they are lying. In Randy's case I could tell right away he's not being serious just by looking at his writing. Now that being said, if you enjoy paranormal fantasy writing then starting a tabloid like a National Enquirer magazine for the paranormal wouldn't be a bad idea. The Fortean Times is a famous one"
Believe it or not, GOD is always here....and a suggestion for you UFO4PEACE, rather than going around suggesting what your assumptions are about Randy and if you are really serious about your concerns on him, spend a few hundred dollars on research and you will learn that there is more to Randy than meets the eye. What you find out will not make any difference on what people believe or don't believe in here, but it will certainly have an impact on your approach about him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2012 10:37:47 GMT -6
'sigh' the point is NOT your belief in what someone writes. The point is that person's right to tell his/her story and not be persecuted or judged for it. That means not having to justify their right to their opinion. UFO4peace..you just do not have the right to call people liars or idiots. You don't know what is real and what is fiction, you only believe you do. Randy's stories or anyone else's here. UFO's or God or Sasquatch..the idea is to discuss the 'paranormal' to invite people who have had experiences to share without any fear of others hounding them for it. You don't have to believe a thing you read but you don't have the right to challenge anyone's right to share it. Heck I don't know if there is or was an alien base in Novato..but I don't know for a fact their isn't. I've never been there to check it out..have you? Were you on hand the day my friend and I were abducted or the day Sky and his friend were? Of course not..no one was but the the idea of this place..IS to share those experiences. No one can yet prove this very controversial subject NOR can it be disproved! You can share this place, read the stories, add stories of your own but you cannot offend the others here. People here do believe in a variety of things..that is why this place exists..if you don't share the possibilities..don't come here..that simple. Here is an idea..start your own forum about things you do not believe in. Maybe some of us will come be guest speakers for you? The only reason you do come here is for the audience.
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Post by ufo4peace on Apr 26, 2012 21:28:22 GMT -6
I don't believe Skywalker was ever abducted. He's just borrowing details from the Travis Walton case and like to tell stories. Nothing against Skywalker but that's just my impression.
On the subject of not not being judgmental. Unfortunately that negative aspect of human behavior is a natural defense mechanism. People will instinctively have a negative reaction to what they perceive as false. You don't want to be a gullible person who is easily tricked or taken advantage of. It's one thing to post stories that are fantasy or fictitious based but it's another thing to post bizarre stories and claim it is true.
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Post by ufo4peace on Apr 26, 2012 21:38:27 GMT -6
Heck I don't know if there is or was an alien base in Novato..but I don't know for a fact their isn't. I've never been there to check it out..have you? Randy reminds me of "sam" on UFO Casebook's forums. Embelshment style writing.
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Post by ufo4peace on Apr 26, 2012 22:08:03 GMT -6
Believe it or not, GOD is always here....and a suggestion for you UFO4PEACE, rather than going around suggesting what your assumptions are about Randy and if you are really serious about your concerns on him, spend a few hundred dollars on research and you will learn that there is more to Randy than meets the eye. What you find out will not make any difference on what people believe or don't believe in here, but it will certainly have an impact on your approach about him. Spend a few hundred dollars where? A PI?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2012 23:57:28 GMT -6
I don't believe Skywalker was ever abducted. He's just borrowing details from the Travis Walton case and like to tell stories. Nothing against Skywalker but that's just my impression. On the subject of not not being judgmental. Unfortunately that negative aspect of human behavior is a natural defense mechanism. People will instinctively have a negative reaction to what they perceive as false. You don't want to be a gullible person who is easily tricked or taken advantage of. It's one thing to post stories that are fantasy or fictitious based but it's another thing to post bizarre stories and claim it is true. Ok, so let me get this understood- 1) You think any woman who disagrees with you is a bimbo. 2) You think all psychics are liars and most people on this forum have psychic abilities. 3) You think Randy is a liar. 4) You think skywalker is a liar. So- let me ask you something if you don't mind. Why do you want to be here if you disagree with everything everyone here says and believes in? What is the purpose of you being here? Are you here just to stir up trouble maybe? Perhaps you are here simply to get a rise out of people? Do you enjoy running around and calling people names and accusing them of being liars and accusing them of breaking the law when they didn't? Or maybe you enjoy the attention... does your mommy not hug you anymore? It seems to me that your only reason for being here is to be a bully to the members here. That seems to be the only thing on your mind. OK, so we have established that you disagree with pretty much everyone here and you disagree with pretty much what everyone here believes in. I already knew that a long time ago. Now what do you want to discuss? Or are you going to resort to childish name-calling, whining at the Admin(mommy) and throwing a temper tantrum because nobody agrees with you again?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2012 0:23:19 GMT -6
Because he likes the reactions and having an audience
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Post by ufo4peace on Apr 27, 2012 1:59:41 GMT -6
lorelei, it's good you pointed out one of my grammar errors. Since you are still young you should consider going to college instead of working retail. You may reflect back and feel a little silly about your time here.
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Post by ufo4peace on Apr 27, 2012 2:14:48 GMT -6
Because he likes the reactions and having an audience You could make the same case about story tellers. I just don't believe everything I read.
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Post by charles on Apr 27, 2012 3:53:22 GMT -6
Hi all! Just my two-penneth in the pot here with regard to how this thread is going. U4P - You are free to hold & express your beliefs regarding other people's experiences/theories/dreams/premonitions or whatever. What people do not like you doing is going in for snide comments, ridiculing them or being completely (and unjustifiably) patronising. Your comment in this thread regarding Lorelei, comment number 69: lorelei, it's good you pointed out one of my grammar errors. Since you are still young you should consider going to college instead of working retail. You may reflect back and feel a little silly about your time here.It is comments like that which, quite understandably, people find irksome, irritating, patronising, demeaning and down right obnoxiously arrogant & rude. Carry on in that manner and there will be nobody except yourself to blame when you are blocked from this site and I for one will certainly be glad. If however you put your comments in such a way as you have on another thread here - "black ops and keeping secrets", comment number 3: I don't believe Randy's stories but Bill Sweetman's articles on the black budget are good.With you commenting in that manner, I for one would like to hear more from you certainly about your thoughts on Bill Sweetman's black budget articles and it would not surprise me if others did too. Disagree with things and don't believe people - fine! I don't always agree with or believe what I read & hear, but I don't ridicule the person for their point of view. I personally wish you would enter into this site with the good intent of being polite & courteous to others, but presenting your own opposing view point. That would be the making of some great debates and discussion! TTFN! Take care, seek peace and SMILE! Charles
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Post by paulette on Apr 27, 2012 9:29:14 GMT -6
O Kay. Now...what were we talking about before the train left the tracks?
Oh, right, it was Randy's thread! Not UFO4P.
Interesting how effective that was (the disruption). I used to date a man who was in the reserves in the states and was trained in interrogation techniques. I never had a satisfying or resolved conflict or difference of opions with him. Somehow I always felt stupid or got mad and it was over. (and he was laughing).
Our relationship didn't last very long. Disinformation and diversion from a topic can be learned. Maybe UFO4P doesn't come by it naturally. Just a theory arising from one of many pirated threads.
Least anyone want to comment on my stupidity or anger now - go ahead. As for Lorelei going to college and not wasting time here (I have an MA and double BA (one in science). If one's main sources of information are silent about some topics, then one goes outside of those sources. Plus, we like each other here. That means a lot of me and IMO many others here.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2012 12:39:55 GMT -6
I agree with Paulette. I have mt some very intelligent and interesting people here (UFO4P is not one of them...). Many of the people here I consider to be my friends and I have learned a lot from reading the posts of others here... and not just about paranormal things but other things as well.
IMO- this forum has been just as educational- if not more educational than a university or college... and it's FREE! ;D
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Post by ufo4peace on Apr 27, 2012 14:36:39 GMT -6
If you don't like what I post just ignore me. Stop complaining and playing politics.
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Post by auntym on Apr 27, 2012 15:13:26 GMT -6
If you don't like what I post just ignore me. Stop complaining and playing politics. ;D ... Ahhhh.... you sound upset ufo4p... .... ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2012 19:39:13 GMT -6
If you don't like what I post just ignore me. Stop complaining and playing politics. ;D ... Ahhhh.... you sound upset ufo4p... .... ;D lol... So, tell me this UFO4peace: If everyone on this forum ignores you- what is the purpose of your being here? Maybe so you can have a conversation with yourself? I mean- after all you're the one who made this personal with me a long time ago. You're also making it personal by calling other members here out by name and calling them liars. What did you expect to happen? Did you think we were just going to sit back and let you be a jerk to our friends without saying anything to you about it? lol... And now you are telling us essentially that with what you posted. Well, I'm just going to be a big jerk and you guys should just ignore me and let me get away with it. lol... So- you joined this forum so you could be ignored by the other members here... and just post things that nobody here wants to read... ...so what's the point in posting it if it will be ignored? Seems like an awful lot of wasted effort on your part, doesn't it?
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Post by ufo4peace on Apr 27, 2012 21:50:17 GMT -6
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Post by paulette on Apr 27, 2012 22:53:11 GMT -6
Hahahahah. Ah...RANDY? Was there something you wanted to say on your thread?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2012 9:37:05 GMT -6
UFO4P..it's not easy to ignore insult. The bottom line..is that you either stop with the insults or you leave. That's really not that hard to grasp. As Charles pointed out..disagree all you like, just be civilized about it..apply some tact..IF you want to stay here, if not I'm pretty sure Auntie is standing by with an ax..
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Post by skywalker on Apr 28, 2012 12:55:18 GMT -6
I don't think he has insulted anybody the past few days. It's possible he might actually be making an effort to get along with people. Let's give him a chance and see what happens.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2012 13:47:15 GMT -6
We can hope
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Post by auntym on Apr 28, 2012 14:31:53 GMT -6
pretty soon he'll tire of toning down his insults... and be back to his old ways.... i can't wait... ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2012 16:37:20 GMT -6
Well..I keep thinking that the 'science' of it..needs a barking dog (to coin a phrase) or two..both sides need to be heard but there ARE ways of doing this without the insult factor. Randy wasn't bothered by it and I'm not as long as remarks are tactful
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Post by randy on Apr 29, 2012 11:13:15 GMT -6
Been busy for a few days so could not laugh at the critics. Since i seem to have stirred up the folk who spread discord and confusion I must have told the truth and need to be silenced at all costs. Once fully exposed to the world the base cant fly away it is trapped on the ground or in it rather. I have a Masters in Geology plus additional work in geophysics so I took scientific writing and upper division English courses as part of that effort. So if people think I write like the establishment good training. Back to reality I wanted to comment on a black resin like material that was in common use in the base. Resin is the best word for that but at times I thought it was some sort of metal alloy. The big heavy blast doors between the landing bay area and the rest of the base were about 4 in thick and made of this material so it has to be strong. The black box at the head of the gully to the landing bay area was made of this material also. It has the feel of plastic or metal of some kind and I could never really determine which it was. the area of the power plant that was hotter than the rest of the base had large box like structures made of panels of this material. In that case the material had a slightly red cast to it in swirls that at first I thought was rust but it was not. Any grey technology was made of this material. Much of the material in the base was man made and obviously shows contact with human markets. this ranged from furnishings to such as the lab area to the kitchen area which included a kitchen sink area as you would find in any house of the era. the barracks area had all white beds and night stands with lamps. Much of the base was so human that I did not feel strange about it at all. I noticed standing on the steps of the UFO that I and my friends found empty on the hillside that the wall inside had a swirling looking pattern of yellow green and gray with some red. Perhaps a variation on the same material. I am not bothered by the howling and baying of critics at my heels. If I did not stir up panic among some folk who want to hide all this then I would not be doing the job right of exposing things. The critics have all the meaning of a little dog barking at a bear. Let then bark
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Post by ufo4peace on Apr 29, 2012 12:29:20 GMT -6
Randy, where did you get you Masters degree?
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Post by randy on Apr 29, 2012 12:54:19 GMT -6
Cal state Fresno Dr Mack was my thesis advisor then went to Houston to work in geophysics, had 180 semester units in science and math classes alone. i liked college as a whole
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Post by ufo4peace on Apr 29, 2012 12:59:39 GMT -6
I don't think he has insulted anybody the past few days. It's possible he might actually be making an effort to get along with people. Let's give him a chance and see what happens. I've been on UFO Casebook's forum I think even before MUFONs old forum and never had any complaints.
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Post by auntym on Apr 29, 2012 13:01:33 GMT -6
Cal state Fresno Dr Mack was my thesis advisor then went to Houston to work in geophysics, had 180 semester units in science and math classes alone. i liked college as a whole WOW... DR. JOHN MACK... a man i truly admired...
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Post by randy on Apr 29, 2012 13:04:27 GMT -6
I mapped about 110 sq miles of gabbro, hornfells and amphibolites lots of thin section work
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