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Post by randy on Apr 29, 2012 13:08:36 GMT -6
This was Dr SY Mack who liked to arm wave and I ended up doing 110 sq miles of foothills. Lots of rattlenakes and 100 degree heat
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Post by ufo4peace on Apr 29, 2012 13:11:32 GMT -6
Cal state Fresno Dr Mack was my thesis advisor then went to Houston to work in geophysics, had 180 semester units in science and math classes alone. i liked college as a whole A Beautiful Mind. A college education doesn't mean you are truthful or everything is okay upstairs. I can post a lot of one paragraph stories and claim I graduated from MIT or Harvard. That's the thing about Internet forums.
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Post by randy on May 6, 2012 1:19:11 GMT -6
ufo4peace an odd name for one who like to fight but so do I so makes life interesting. If I am not stirring up critics then I am not doing the job right in exposing the greys. the closer I get to the truth the louder the mob howls to scare me away. Open your mind and your eyes and learn reality. Reality will pop up out of the ground full grown and hungry and then it is too late. the greys did not scare me away from visiting the base on my own so you will not scare me off either. It simply does not matter if you believe or not since you cannot change reality one atom Reality does not change regardless of what ever war dance you do. Cassandra warned the Trojans but they did not listen. Open your mind and learn reality stop being a primative. " Lay on Mc Duff and *bleep* be he who cries hold enough"
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2012 10:10:21 GMT -6
I think maybe if we tried real hard..we could come up with some kind of meaningful conversations
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Post by skywalker on May 6, 2012 11:00:41 GMT -6
Ok, Jo...you go first. I'm waiting for something interesting to happen in the paranormal world. It seems to be really slow right now for some reason. No aliens have invaded, no mummies have come to life, no Bigfeets have gone berzerk and tried to climb the Empire State Building. It seems that all the blogs and forums are in waiting mode. I just read a thread over on the "MOO-FOO" forum that was talking about how quiet it was...of course their forum is always quiet.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2012 16:12:57 GMT -6
I know what you mean sky- I actually caught myself hoping I would see a UFO last night...
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Post by skywalker on May 6, 2012 16:24:08 GMT -6
I always hope I see a UFO. I'm looking at the sky right now even. Can't see anything because the sun is shining in my face and I am now blind but I'm still looking.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2012 16:27:24 GMT -6
I always hope I see a UFO. I'm looking at the sky right now even. Can't see anything because the sun is shining in my face and I am now blind but I'm still looking.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2012 17:20:44 GMT -6
'scratching my head..tilting it..shaking it' trying to find a 'meaningful' conversation. Yawnnn too tired. I'm thinking a cup of mint green tea a book and maybe even a nap. I'm reading a book by Hawking 'The Grand Design'..he's an amazingly good writer (doesn't even write in 'math'). One of the things he says is that there are many ways of looking at the same reality. The 'model' of the world we create for ourselves depends on what our sensory apparatus takes in..how it takes it in. You can see a tree from a purely visual standpoint..or a quantum level (what molecular structure) or from the standpoint of someone about to chop it down and sell it. We are the ones limiting ourselves. I find it interesting to read this from a quantum theoretical physicist because they are things we've touched on here. Aren't we clever? I find it doubly amazing because his perceptions are very physically limited but his mind must be as huge as the universe ;D
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Post by randy on May 6, 2012 23:22:15 GMT -6
After i wrote my last post here I thought better of it and agree things have gottne off track. by personnality type I am a judge as a pshych friend of mind derermined after I took a test at his request. I am constantly evaluating my environment and people around me. As such I pick up on body language and things out of place. I have learned some interesting things as a result. Some things have to remain silent. The original concept of this thread is the expanding influence of the greys in our leadership. It is a simple concept and logical for them to follow. Initially they wanted local security around the base. They asked me who to subvert locally so I know they were doing that first hand. I told them who subvert at times. One man has done very well and has alot of land in Marin and alot of money now These folk have friends to invite over and once securely in the hosts home guests can be subverted expanding grey influence. This process can be easily expanded to San Francisco and the leadership there. Since this is a jump off point for DC office for some the greys influence is limitless over time. Time is often over looked as a consideration. It has been 50 yrs since the greys asked me who to subvert locally. That is alot of time to achieve power in our society. As a side issue my father worked in criminal investigations for the state of calif. An army intelligence man phoned him and said that he was on to something really big in marin Co. He wanted to meet in the morning and compare notes it was really big. The man did not survive the night. It may not been grey related but some interesting things are going on there.
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Post by pigswillfly on May 7, 2012 0:28:13 GMT -6
Randy you mentioned that the grey's influence could have expanded over time. This led me to think if there is one grey base why not more? Do you think it was a local situation only?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2012 3:01:29 GMT -6
I took time to google (mapmaker) the atherton address in Novato, Ca. ( and why is my left ear suddenly ringing ?). I think I found my dream locale (from my previous post on this thread). Oddly enough, when I tried to give an exact address, I couldn't, but Plum Street is nearby, so I punched in the other address given by Steve earlier: 615 Plum Street. From there, travel to "Sherman" st. which also intersects with Summers Ave. If you try to "go on foot" down Sherman, it will not let you go past a barrier. Zoom out and an area past the barrier you will see "structures" that look like a bridge (like side rails ?), and a ravine that is bare of trees. Only thing missing is a huge culvert opening in or very near the ravine. . .
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Post by pigswillfly on May 11, 2012 20:00:21 GMT -6
Just going back to page one, I took another look at those google earth pics that skywalker posted. I noticed some of the "fake" trees have shadows, they appear to be painted over some other solid object.
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Post by randy on May 12, 2012 0:19:47 GMT -6
I am certain that other bases exist it is only logical that they would expand out. In another post I mentioned laying on the school ground at olive st school with other kdis watching flight after flight of silver disks flying east to west. West is out over the Pacific to who knows where 50-60 UFOs passed over head after I noticed them. how many more had passed before I saw them I dont know they went some where that could house that many flyers. jcurio as a question could the culvert you mention be a tunnel opening since hidden?
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Post by skywalker on May 12, 2012 11:34:12 GMT -6
Just going back to page one, I took another look at those google earth pics that skywalker posted. I noticed some of the "fake" trees have shadows, they appear to be painted over some other solid object. Steve managed to obtain a photo of the area without the fake trees which he posted in a reply on page two. It looks mainly like real trees under the fake trees along with some type of house trailer or something. I just took a look at the location again on Google Earth and for some reason the fake trees are now gone. Don't know what that's all about. Here is the first picture I took with the fake trees. Here is the one I just got off of Google Earth today that has no fake trees.
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Post by randy on May 13, 2012 0:05:03 GMT -6
Some one cares enough to cover up something that was visable from the air. I dont think that it was to cover up a horse trailer. Perhaps as a wild guess it was a landed UFO. who knows but they were covering up something. What ever was covered up was moveable and not there now as they have no need to cover it up.
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Post by randy on May 13, 2012 0:16:51 GMT -6
Surfing the internet I have noticed at times people reporting booming noises and rumblings under ground which all suggests some sort of tunneling operations going on. As I recall Mufon once mentioned the govt was making a survey of old mines and cavern systems for some reason. Perhaps it was to provide new homes for the expanding grey population. A nice big salt mine or old coal mine could provide the basic starting point for a new grey base built to suit.
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Post by randy on May 13, 2012 0:54:27 GMT -6
At the end of WWII the US was the only nuclear power and we were relatively untouched by the ravages of war. In 1946 San Francisco was host to a world gathering of nations do discuss the new world that was taking shape. While at College of Marin I happened to see a 1946 dated geologic map of Marin county and I noticed that the top of the hill just north my home had a tunnel indicated with a question mark. the map maker had noted a tunnel but did not know why it was there. That map is the only map I have seen that indicated a tunnel being there. hamilton AFB was in sight of the hill top. During the dark days of WWII there was serious consideration that Japan could reach the rocky mtns. it is possible that a secret command center was started in the hill in front of my home as a fall back position if things got worse in the war. the railroad spur line at the west end of the hill could have hauled off alot of waste rock for this operation and brought in alot of building supplies as secret war work. Thus the start of the tunnel system in the hill. AS a nuclear power we had achieved the status of warp drive so to speak and the greys made contact. this event would have been big news to the world. So in 1946 world govts met in San Francisco a few minutes drive from the hill tunnel system. the tunnel system established in secret would have been the perfect place to put the initial grey contact representatives. I would imagine only the biggee countries were informed of the contact. In 1956 as a kid I was in the base and much had been established but also they were still setting up some things. putting in equipment laying electric lines etc. So going backwards in time from 1956 enough time had passed since initial construction had started for the machine shop and ware houses to be set up and lighting and power to be in for the major items but not for the smaller less important things. Tunneling was still going on in 1956 producing waste rock. Going back to about 1946 would have been a logical timing point for starting on the base conversion for the greys. Some of this work was noted on the 1946 geologic map. The location of the base, the 1946 meeting of world govts in SF and the US as a nuclear power all meshed nicely We had official contact probably about 1945 when we were raising nuclear mushrooms.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2012 2:22:17 GMT -6
Just because the trees look more realistic doesn't mean they ARE real... Maybe they first put up the fake trees, then they had an artist draw them to make them look more realistic with appropriate shading... Could be something they're trying to hide there...
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Post by randy on May 14, 2012 23:04:01 GMT -6
Who is Nimmermehr and why is he coming to the forest? Just curious and maybe showing lack of knowledge in the classics
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Post by randy on May 18, 2012 0:36:41 GMT -6
it has taken a long time to remember why I felt that the greys were involved with Stanford University. I was in an argument with the boy who I have mentioned that was part of the team of 4 boys created by the greys who lacked any moral compass. He was basicly a sadist. There was an intense rivalry between us. While arguing he stated that his father was a professor at Stanford. meaning he also was smart. To me Stanford was just a name at the time. It would logical for the govt to bring in the best minds to deal with the greys. it would also be logical that some idiot professor would see the advantage for his son to get in on the ground floor with the greys. It was a huge mistake
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Post by charles on May 18, 2012 4:58:07 GMT -6
Hi all! Randy - just a quick thought about sadist boy & his family background. Could it be that his father, far from being an 'idiot professor' as you put it, was coerced into allowing, or rather given no option, in his son's collusion with the greys? Could it be they caught him (the boy) at just the right time in his development to begin his integration or alliance and in doing so allowing him a nurturing environment for his sadistic tendencies? That's me done! TFN! Take care, seek peace and SMILE! Charles
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2012 12:10:43 GMT -6
Who is Nimmermehr and why is he coming to the forest? Just curious and maybe showing lack of knowledge in the classics Es ist ein Gedicht mein Freund... Es heisst: "Waldgesprach" von Joseph von Eichendorf. Nimmermehr is two words combined together. "Never More". "It is already late- twill soon be cold- come never more- (from) out these woods." It's the final stanza of the poem by Eichendorf... I can understand the confusion though. I capitalized that word when I should not have because in German only nouns are capitalized (unless the word is the first of a sentence like in English). That was an error on my part. Lorelei (pronounced Laura-Lie) said that in the poem of course... the evil witch of the black forest... A good thing to remember with German is that their prepositions are a pain in the butt... but "Aus" is one of the easier ones. It sounds just like the English word "Out" except with an "s" at the end rather than a "t". It usually means the same thing as "Out"... or moving away from something... but not always... The two prepositions I have the most trouble with are "auf" and "an". For some reason I always want to use the wrong one of those two... when I say "auf" I will be corrected to say "an" and vice versa... every time... lol... you see both of these prepositions pretty much translate to the same one in English... "On" or "upon" or "on top of"... but "auf" is extremely more versatile than "an" and can be used in many many other ways... OK I'm getting myself a headache. Time for more coffee and to stop typing lol...
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2012 17:22:22 GMT -6
Randy, I was born in California in 1967 during the ufo flap that took place during that era. I was born within 90 miles of Novato. I looked up some reports of that time during this flap and found one from Novato which is interesting. Were you there in 67 ? **************************************************** www.nicap.org/waves/1967fullrep.htm - Feb.13, 1967; Novato, CA 12:30 p.m. PST. A witness watching aircraft first saw a white disc passing overhead at high speed. Three other discs then appeared from different directions and fell in behind the first (rendezvous). The last one was black. (NICAP report form.) **************************************************** There are many interesting reports throughout the web dating several years span in that area. It's worth looking into and I'm still searching through them. Cliff
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Randy, I was born in California in 1967 during the ufo flap that took place during that era. I was born within 90 miles of Novato. I looked up some reports of that time during this flap and found one from Novato which is interesting. Were you there in 67 ? **************************************************** www.nicap.org/waves/1967fullrep.htm - Feb.13, 1967; Novato, CA 12:30 p.m. PST. A witness watching aircraft first saw a white disc passing overhead at high speed. Three other discs then appeared from different directions and fell in behind the first (rendezvous). The last one was black. (NICAP report form.) **************************************************** There are many interesting reports throughout the web dating several years span in that area. It's worth looking into and I'm still searching through them. Cliff Here's another Randy : science.howstuffworks.com/space/aliens-ufos/oz-factor-ufo.htm -
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2012 18:36:28 GMT -6
I am certain that other bases exist it is only logical that they would expand out. In another post I mentioned laying on the school ground at olive st school with other kdis watching flight after flight of silver disks flying east to west. West is out over the Pacific to who knows where 50-60 UFOs passed over head after I noticed them. how many more had passed before I saw them I dont know they went some where that could house that many flyers. jcurio as a question could the culvert you mention be a tunnel opening since hidden? Yes. In my "dream" this culvert I saw was large enough to have train tracks and a train go into it, thus this thread and your observations amazed me. In my "dream state" however, the culvert was empty. What makes this all so real for me, and more unbelievable to others, is I "saw" it all from a "google perspective"; like I was flying above with a jet-pack on (nothing between me and the earth but air). The google pictures here on this site, is what I saw. Just supposing even, that what I took for bridge rails, was part of a railroad too. Thanks for your question, Randy. Sorry I missed it until now.
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Post by randy on May 20, 2012 0:26:01 GMT -6
When I and my friends crept into the landing bay tunnel undected by the greys there was a groove in the floor that lead into the landing bay and then branched out into each of the individual parking bays. That groove strongly suggests that on entering the landing bay tunnel the UFO may extend something into the groove that keeps it centered in the tunnel and that guides it into a particular landing bay. It would keep the UFOs from scraping the sides of the tunnel as they traverse it. You may have seen thie groove and taken it as a train rail. On the other hand a rail road spur line did enter the hill on the west end where still today a rail line passes close by. I was going to the College of Marin in 1967 and then transferred to Sonama State which was just starting out and some of my classes had 3 other students in them and were held in the profs office. It has been some time since I studied German beyond "Please pass the flamethower". Living next to an Air base you got used to seeing things in the sky. As a kid I learned to ID all the airforce planes in the air since I had models of them in my room. I had to keep up with the Ari force kids in the area. I knew that white disks sitting still in the sky were not planes.
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Post by randy on May 20, 2012 11:02:42 GMT -6
Charles: I was picked off about age 11 by the greys which is old enough to function on your own but not old enough to have the basis to resist the greys mentally at least at first. the sadistic kid was about a year or so older than me and he was totally for the greys. I had some ability to retain my value system because of the way I was raised initially. A kid raised without absolute values has no firm anchor to hold on to in dealing with the greys. a liberal raising as a college prof might give might not have absolute values given to the kid. He saw noting wrong with raping young girls in the base as they would not remember it. That was one of our disagreements Why he had such a free run of the base and was always there i am not sure unless he was set up to be a future representative of humanity to the greys. This would give the greys a horrible example of our culture. PB who lived two houses down from me seemed to hang out with this kid alot for some reason as they were together several times when I saw them. The sadistic kid regarded me as a rival for something which I never did understand. initially in the base there were two boy like humans who while they looked like human kids they were in fact fully grown. Who they were I dont know.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2012 22:05:38 GMT -6
When I "saw" the huge culvert it was empty. I don't recall seeing any tracks at all; just that it was large enough that a train could easily go in. It was already partially hidden with foliage dangling from the top. Right now I'm hoping that I posted something more about that dream, like what it was about, because all I'm getting now is flashes of scenery. This is scary for me, that I feel like just when I'm gaining some memories, I'm losing them quickly. I'm stuck with bits and pieces of memories and don't know why . For example, I clearly remember crawling around, half standing in underground tunnels with no fear. Just exploring. For a long time I thought it was the sewers here in my neighborhood, but now I have my doubts. Even as a small undersized kid, could I, would I have slid into the local sewers right where the water pours in? Sure, I remember floating boats down the gutters with my brother when it was raining, but did we ever pry open a manhole to climb down? The neighborhood was a lot younger then, the sewers weren't so dirty, but I've never seen kids since then go down there.
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Post by skywalker on May 20, 2012 22:21:54 GMT -6
Have you ever asked your brother if he remembers anything about it, Jc? It might be interesting just to see what he remembers.
I'm also a little bit curious about why you think that the dream that you had matches the area around the hill in Marin County. Are you sure that is the same hill. Do you have any other memories of it besides the dream? I remember you posting much about it here. Do you remember any more of what happened?
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