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Post by ufo4peace on May 21, 2012 4:56:47 GMT -6
Randy, does this bring back childhood memories?
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2012 22:16:05 GMT -6
Randy's Underground Alien Base in Marin countyI found the location on Google Earth of the alledged alien base that Randy claims is in Marin County, California. Here are some photos. This is an overview of the hill which is located in between Plum Street and Atherton Avenue on the northeast edge of Novato. The hill is named Cherry Hill. There appears to be some type of construction going on there, or at least there is an area that is cleared of vegetation. I thought perhaps they were expanding the residential neighborhood but there does not appear to be any more houses than there was ten years ago. The next two are a comparison between what the location looks like today (2011) and what it looked like before. The bottom photo is from 2002. I found earlier photos that went back to 1993 but they looked the same as the 2002 photo except they were in black and white rather than color. While I was looking at the photos I noticed a spot that didn't look quite right to me so I decided to take a closer look. The red arrow in the photo below is pointing to the weird location. This is what it looked like when I zoomed in closer. Obviously some of those "trees" were painted on. So is the little yellow square building. Google sometimes whites out certain things that they don't want people to see for some reason (like certain parts of the images of Area 51) but I don't recall ever seeing an example of where they had painted on fake trees. I wonder what that is all about. Could there be something there or is it just a defect in the film that was corrected later on? The spot looks like some kind of a sewage runoff pond to me. Notice the fake trees in the middle? It may not mean anything but I'm suspicious of everything. ____________________________________________________ Timing is everything. You posted this on April 8, 2012. I had my dream on April 7, 2012 and said this: Interspersed through this dream are weird settings. Finding a "hidden" drainage ditch that goes to another place. Seeing a whole avalanche of houses go down a hillside because of the destroying of a "cavern" underneath it; things like that. Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=dreams&action=display&thread=1732&page=3#ixzz1vZCaYwpr____________________________________________________ I guess the Marin Co. setting could look like any place. But I can also tell you that I got sidetracked enough by your pictures to miss Randy's comments a few replies up about Summer Rd. pointing to the spot. I thought I discovered Summer road all on my own (some replies later ) when I was looking for a hillside that tumbled down into a culvert area. I was looking at Steve's directions from another road (another reply) and just moving left and down from where I started, and then I tried the Plum address and went right. . . I know myself pretty well. I have remote viewed in a dream before, and saw actual event going on someplace else while I was sleeping. When I get a "deja vous" feeling about a location I'm at, I know that I've dreamed about the place and an event that is about to happen. These aren't dangerous or significant events; just a way to learn to trust myself is what I'm getting so far . Marin Co., as shown, looked so familiar because I feel like I dreamed of it the day before. I found an actual area that looked like it should have a large culvert opening. Whether I have ever been there or not, I'm still saying that I think there should be a culvert there, and there is a large cavern under the hill, with houses built on top, IMO. The houses may never collapse due to the cavern underneath them. For all I know, I am just remote viewing an area that obviously Randy has talked about. Does Randy need or want some idiot saying that she saw the place in her dream? I may look like an idiot to some, but I'm actually getting more confident in my gift. I could just keep it all to myself, but sometimes it just comes out. At least here, on the internet I don't have to worry about opening my mouth and having people avoid me like I have plague ;D
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2012 5:08:02 GMT -6
just looking around some more 98 Summers Ave. - facing straight towards the hill in front of little map guy, a bit NE, with Plum street on my left. Can see steps going 'nowhere' on my left; a deer trail going up hill on my R. (little map guy is the guy you can click on and get view as if walking down street). I will try again to get coordinates I'm looking for, to show where I think culvert is. Again, collapsing houses on a hillside to me means unstable foundation (not a landslide from weather). Thanks
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2012 5:23:14 GMT -6
600 Plum Street- not just a deer trail. A road. 6 Sherwood Place -last house on Sherwood by hill. Can't go on foot any farther here. (what I thought were steps on hill is a small wall.)
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Post by skywalker on May 23, 2012 10:57:22 GMT -6
The dream that you had is a pretty good description of the Marin County location. Houses with swimming pools in the backyard, etc... California could definitely be that place. The timing of it would be pretty coincidental too.
I didn't know you were able to remote view things, Jc. If that is what you were doing and if this is the place you were viewing why do you think it happened? Is it just because Randy has been talking about that location and put it in your head or do you think you have some connection to it somehow?
I haven't had time to look for the culvert you were talking about yet. Did you say you think there is an opening to the cavern there? I think I remember Randy once saying there was an old railroad that lead into the hill but I don't see any railroads in the photos. Maybe all the rails have all been removed and all that is left is the culvert?
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Post by randy on May 24, 2012 10:28:57 GMT -6
when I first moved into the area as a kid there was a rail road spur line on the west tip of the hill where the base is located that went from a very close rail line which still exits and is visable on areal photos to the end of the hill ending in a large iron door that made neat booming noises when hit will big rocks. Not too long after that the tracks were torn up and the road bed of the spur line bulldozed flat and the land plowed up. For some years the rails remained in a road that passed between the rail line and the hill but even those were removed when the road was repaved. Driving by there the old iron door appears gone and all traces of the spur line are removed like it never existed but I saw and touched it as a kid. That is is not visable at a distance does not mean a hidden door is not there.
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Post by randy on May 24, 2012 10:59:21 GMT -6
Some times it takes me a while to connect dots on things and that is annoying to me. I have mentioned that low budget sci fi movies were created about aliens at the Marin co civic center and about aliens in the SF city govt. This being a logical step in grey influence in our society in a slow take over of the leadership. I have mentioned also the the oddity of the SF movie but have now extended that to the civic center movie also. Why were they made in the first place? Why not the Denver convention center instead of the Marin co civic center. In separate incidents both I and my sister have seen huge UFOs hovering over highway 101 in full daylight which implies something of interest there for the greys. Perhaps picking up and dropping off people there. Rather a showy thing to do. What I saw was a total failure of the grey cloaking device as thousands of people saw the UFO and paniced over it. Yet nothing in the media at all. years later my sister saw the same thing from above on a side road with traffic under the hwy passing serenely under the UFO not seeing it only a few feet above them. Then black helicopters showed up. Back to the movies. the movies are an error in judgement by some one in that they are fine as a cover for any reports on aliens AS long as no one links them to each other and to the greys. then they raise the question why were they made at all except as a form of cover up
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Post by randy on May 24, 2012 11:48:51 GMT -6
problems posting on this site. The red arrow area is well sited for road connection to the base. It is close to the road but well hidden by nature with ridge lines and trees hiding it away. the painted trees are for a reason not a whimsy. With the rail line gone the base needs access to human products by some means of access to keep it resupplied. A tunnel could be hidden there. Painted in trees could cover cargo dropped at the site for the base.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2012 14:44:44 GMT -6
The dream that you had is a pretty good description of the Marin County location. Houses with swimming pools in the backyard, etc... California could definitely be that place. The timing of it would be pretty coincidental too. I didn't know you were able to remote view things, Jc. If that is what you were doing and if this is the place you were viewing why do you think it happened? Is it just because Randy has been talking about that location and put it in your head or do you think you have some connection to it somehow? I haven't had time to look for the culvert you were talking about yet. Did you say you think there is an opening to the cavern there? I think I remember Randy once saying there was an old railroad that lead into the hill but I don't see any railroads in the photos. Maybe all the rails have all been removed and all that is left is the culvert? I see that Randy has made some replies since I read this post of yours, Skywalker, last night. I want to read Randy's posts, but will wait until I reply to these questions. I don't want to possibly be influenced by what Randy says . 1. When I saw this thread was about underground bases I was not interested in "rehashing" that again. By "rehashing" I mean that TEOR has another thread where several of us talked about known underground storage facilities. 2. I recall a thread (maybe there was more ?) on muffin about an underground base. There was information given about its location. I can remember posting that I was unable to look on the internet where they were talking about, and that was the truth. No one responded (that I'm aware of) to that post of mine to help me possibly find the location, and I went on to another subject. It did "nag" at me that I could not use the internet for a search of underground bases. I have said before that I know some of my PC issues are directed. It is very obvious, IMO. And whoever or whatever causes it does not care that it is obvious. Because I worship an all-powerful, omnipotent "Being" (if He so chooses to appear as a being), I have learned to be patient.
Even if there is evil intent in my life it can be "overruled" at any time. Waiting is difficult ;D. There is no possibility in this circumstance of "seize the moment", so don't bother going there with my belief system. ( this is not the place for a sermon on my G_d is the G_D of second chances. . . . Gotta love Him . 3. I am taking a mini-vacation soon (by mini that means not far away, for only a short time) and on my plans is a visit to a famous cavern. It's time. The only other fear I know I have is spinach, and I addressed that about four years ago. I now eat it in a dip (only!). I am not claustrophobic. I don't like elevators with no windows and I don't want to go underground. Sewers (yuck!) did not bother me as a kid. I will ask my brother (about sewers) when the opportunity presents itself. It will . 4. IMHO, Remote viewing is seeing something as if you are right there, at that exact time. As if you have life-feed security cameras every where and a TV in front of you. You hold a remote in your hand and change the channel to any camera you want ;D. Yes, that is my joke on the use of the word. I didn't know I could do it either. I do believe that a mind can be taught to do this (remote view). Can you imagine the extensive training??? I don't care if some people seem like "naturals"; being "natural" would have to be a GIFT (and that falls under a different category). I think some people CAN turn off and on their gift, as easy as it is to turn off and on sexual arousal. I'm talking about arousal in the mind. Sometimes it just happens. But if you pay attention there is a "mind shift" present. ( Best example, and it's really cool!). I believe that this (sex) is why people over history have tried using it as a means to literally find an alternate world/reality. It's an alternate reality for me, . 5. I used "remote viewing" loosely in my previous post. I think I know where a tunnel opening could be. But I don't think there are any houses on the hill overlooking the culvert. I looked where that could be possible on Robinhood Lane, and It doesn't feel the same. In that area of Robinhood Lane there are even more obvious "trails" into the hillside country, and even an equestrian area? What's difficult for me is getting up close with the little google map guy and sensing the slope and heighth of the hill. ? Really cool little app, but of course reminding oneself that it isn't live-feed. So, in this situation of mine here, it's like dreaming of swimming next to the shoreline of Japan, and then later seeing pictures on the internet that match my dream. I would absolutely love to have addresses and coordinates given to me by someone, then look at the place, and say " Oh! I've been there! or, is it, "Im going to go there"!? Things I've seen may actually be a future way that scene is going to look. I tend to think its the past, but have to leave the option of future open. See? I still don't believe in myself. And that's the key here, with me. I believe that the Great Spirit uses my eyes as He chooses to leave some sort of impression on my brain. 6. The dream. Forget the rest of it. It was too up-close and personal (me kind of green?) for any reference of Marin Co. on the internet. I don't know WHY the coincidence. I said, Randy does NOT "need" me. Why there would even be just ONE underground base (as mentioned by others) is just plain stupid ;P. But the timing of the base. . . and all the references and inferences with timing. . . AND then I think about someone (Steve?) making some comment about some of us having met before. Not past-life before but I still thought that was a stupid idea for us to have met before in the company of E.T. Now I'm not thinking it's not such a stupid idea (I never thought the person who said it was stupid ). I don't know why I dream the things I do. Sometimes I don't know why I say certain things even. I might say something with MY intent in mind (or no intent), about nothing at all important, and the person I'm with makes it clear that I said just the right thing! Do You know what that means???!! It means that sometimes I'm prompted to speak out of turn, change the subject, or say something that to me sounds really unnecessary. Never something mean. But I still clamp me mouth shut . Here's the deal. I'm purposely trying to become "holy". Not skip the second soda holy. I mean downright, no sex, no impressions thru the eyes or other senses of "sin". It is very difficult, but that's what takes away the boredom, folks! Why just the other day some man stepped right next to me and said loud enough for others around to hear "I could paint your toe nails for you" in a serious, no flirt manner (I was wearing sandals and was mortified that someone noticed my ugly toes. I smiled pleasantly, I promise. I didn't bother to try to move away in a crowd.) I can't explain WHY I want to be "holy". I really can't. I mean, for example, my daughter can say she became vegetarian because she loves animals, but it's also "working out" for her. There are benefits. Of course she misses KFC! Anyway, I don't expect to actually become holy. It just feels right FOR ME. My point in all this talk about myself is : if some other "being" is giving me insights into all kinds of things, He better be a good guy ;D . 7. I am convinced that there is/was/will be a tunnel opening to an underground area that is almost visible on this thread. I can only say this because of my dream and the pictures posted here. I cannot recall any other reason why I think this, right now. Logically I do not believe this, and I have no "feeling" that this is true. I look back at Randy's comments about things like peeing on the hillside and I grin . I did not grin when I read that. I grin because someone thinks I'm influenced by that. And THEN now I realize his peeing comment is actually pretty funny. . . At the end of the culdesac of Sherman road. I had to "play" a lot with apps (besides the google guy) to get to the bottom of the hill past there and look up. From several angles. I also look back to ground level (map guy now) down past the end of the culdesac to a group of trees that are just to the left of a bend in the road? Then compare it with sky view? Then I wonder how long this construction is/has been going on? From sky view, those "blocks" or whatever that are in lines (kind of) near the edge of the hill (or ravine)? Did I think that was a bridge rail in my dream? Ok, this hill (ravine) is only a general idea in compared to my dream. My dream had a LOT more detail. Would it remind me more of my dream if I was standing there? No. Because there are no houses there. 8. I FEEL that I have been underground somewhere. Yes, I have dreamed about places, and some of them speak of truth to me because of feelings. I don't know what I will remember, or decide is just a dream. I have time today to think about it. Tomorrow I may read something I wrote and not remember how important it felt to write that down at the time. I know that underground bases is an important issue, yesterday, today, and tomorrow. I know that right now I can think about it and talk about it with no worries for myself. That's probably WHY I HAVE to dream. . . Can I go and read what Randy wrote now? ;D
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2012 14:56:45 GMT -6
Back to the movies. the movies are an error in judgement by some one in that they are fine as a cover for any reports on aliens AS long as no one links them to each other and to the greys. then they raise the question why were they made at all except as a form of cover up Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=theories&thread=2193&page=6#ixzz1vp3h7orX____________________________________________________ You know the answer, Randy. Even if you could have broke off relations with the greys as a kid, you also knew in your heart that you were also gathering information and it was important for you to stay brave. People can put on a front. Some people knew that the movies would also be warnings. They also know about plain old indifference.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2012 15:03:42 GMT -6
"Failure of cloaking device".
I'm willing to bet that some humans see them with or without that failure.
I'm also willing to bet that a lot of those people in the panicked situation don't remember the event at all, even after reading this or with hypnosis.
What we have to stay focused on is why they have to stay hidden. Whether they are "good" or not. And what is the reason for why?
They can be hurt.
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Post by skywalker on May 27, 2012 10:23:17 GMT -6
It looked like you put a lot of thought into that post, Jc. I would like to respond to a few parts of it. There is actually quite a bit of iformation on the internet about underground bases. Here are a couple of good websites that list some of the known (and unknown ) underground sites. www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Bases.htmlwww.burlingtonnews.net/tunnels2.htmlI didn't see any mention of anything in Marin County or anywhere near Randy's hill but I did notice that there are rumored to be underground bases in Lubbock, Texas (where I was zapped by the bright light) and in Fort Hood (which is near Lampasas where I have had numerous strange UFO related experiences). I don't know how much faith I have in remote viewing just because I have never been able to do anything like that. I can't do any astral projection either. That doesn't mean it isn't possible though. After all of the crazy experiences I have had I don't dismiss anything outright. Anything is possible. It would be cool to find out if some of the things you are viewing really are there. If there is a tunnel opening somewhere there I would love to see it. After reading about all of the underground tunnels, bases and storage areas that the government and military have hidden all over the place I'm starting to wonder just how much digging is really going on underneath us. I bet it's a lot more than anybody has ever imagined. I think that people need to know about these things whether the government wants them to or not. They don't have a monopoly on the future of the planet. As far as I can tell the construction around that culdesac has been going on for quite a while. I took Google Earth back as far as I could (to the 1990s) and there is always a patch of bare earth there but there doesn't look like there is any actual building going on other than the culdesac itself which appeared in 2008. There haven't been any houses built since then though. Maybe it is because of the crappy economy?
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Post by randy on May 27, 2012 11:18:18 GMT -6
Part of the game is to think like a grey would think and then look for evidence to back up the idea. The base has to have supplies to keep running. When I was a kid they had a huge machine shop there with lathe like machines the size of a long truck trailer. The lathes to be effective have to have raw materials to work on to make parts out of. How does the raw material get into the base? You are talking about heavy bulky materials probably requiring trucks to move if obtained locally. It would be easier to truck it in than to fly it in on UFOs and less showy. As a kid I saw a level of the base near the top of the hill. The rail line implies a ground level part of the base also This ground level could have other entrances for trucks as well. Such entrances would be located in out of sight areas of the hills base. Recall as a kid I watched big earth movers go up a canyon in the hill and then come out of some trees across from me. They open tunnels at will and then close them up again. Way down on the south side of the hill I found as a kid a stream gully that had a layer of glass bricks as its bottom. Most likely this was the roof of the base exposed by erosion again implying a lower level to the base that I was never in.
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Post by fractenna on Jun 10, 2012 19:10:46 GMT -6
Touched quipped,
I wanna go too 8-) ! You go through the front skywalker and I'll go in the back and then we can go Rambo on these little critters and kick some grey booty ;D . SkyWalker, Touched,
And I'll sit on the top cracking those Grey heads "like cracking Cadbury Eggs" as they come running out...it'd be a good day.
I "quoted" an excerpt from a FracTenna post I read in the old SETI-L list in 1995, where I was a member. FracTenna is an RF engineer who invented the famous 2.2 GHz microwave fractal antenna for usage in SETI microwave search.
FracTenna posted that he awakened during an abduction to find that he was supine..laying on his back with several Greys leaning over him, he reached up, grabbing the Grey nearest him, by the Grey's head with both hands and squeezed, he said he heard a cracking sound, similar to that of an egg-shell cracking, the Grey making a high pitch (~8 KHz) loud volume sound from its tiny mouth slit, as his fingers punched through the skull, a creamy liquid oozed out around his fingers as he continued to press inward, the Grey seemed to 'go loose', sliding downward, FracTenna let go. As FracTenna was attempting to get up, he again passed out, awakening back in his home. His hands were still sticky with a gooey like substance on them. The other members of the SETI-L list went silent. Later, I was told off-list by one of the SETI scientists with whom I had a friendly association, that the other SETI members considered FracTenna at times to be 'crazy', although I found FracTenna's posts to be intelligent, well informed about all of the subjects he posted, which were mostly technical subjects regarding RF amplifiers, antenna dBu sun-noise measurements, power-spectral-densities of BIN sweeps...SETI stuff, etc, including only two alien-subject posts that I saw him post over a three year period.
SkyWalker said: >I would still like to know where this base is...
I asked Randy this question about that 'base' on the old MUFON board three years ago, it'll be interesting to see what his answer is this time?
plutronusI am extremely disappointed at the promulgation of this untruth at my expense. First, to SAY that I am crazy is defamatory and a lie. Next, I NEVER had any alleged encounter with a 'gray'. The misquote you refer to is from a post on a SLEEP PARALYSIS DREAM--NOT an actual encounter. I have never ever had any encounter as you describe. NEVER EVER. OK? STop saying this please. BTW the original post is at: seti.sentry.net/archive/public/1999/2-99/00000247.htm . See for yourself! Finally I am not an engineer. I am an astrophysicist. Frank Drake was my teacher and friend. Best Wishes from Chip Cohen
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Post by Morgan Sierra on Jun 10, 2012 20:13:12 GMT -6
I appreciate the clarification, Chip. I read the post at the link you provided and it did seem clear that you were referring to an episode of sleep paralysis and lucid dreaming. It was also pretty clear that you are very skeptical about the entire "alien abduction" phenomenon. In plutronus' defense I would like to point out that he didn't say that he thought you were crazy, only that he had heard somebody else say it. He said he personally thought your posts were very intelligent and well informed. It didn't sound to me like he meant the comment to be defamatory. If he has any other comments to make regarding this I will let him make them. I do have a question for you regarding something that you wrote in the original post about the dream, particularly this paragraph: "There were no greys. There ARE no greys. SLEEP PARALYSIS is NOT reality and there is no way--based upon my PERSONAL experience-- that this scientist is convinced that any of these so-called 'abductions' are real. They are fantasies of the unconscious mind."Suppose that there were two different people asleep in two different bedrooms who had the exact same "hallucination" at the same time. Would you still consider that to be an episode of sleep paralysis? My best friend and I had such an encounter back in 1988. He described his "dream" the exact same way that I remember mine. That is what first got me interested in investigating the subject of alien abduction. Even after twenty years I am still searching for answers, but I can assure you it is not as easy to dismiss as you may think. There is definitely something extraordinary going on.
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Post by randy on Jun 16, 2012 0:31:01 GMT -6
Lucid dreaming is only one person involved no other witnesses to things. Recall Pete Davis the kid who lived down the street who killed himself because he had been taken over by aliens and could not handle it. a sincere witness. Other people were involved with the greys besides me. LH my friend recalls things but is in denial cant face it yet. My sister recalls the base and the greys. Trying to track down people is hard. PB who was on the team of four boys with me I have learned is or was a policeman but then the informer I was talking to refused to say more about him. He got scared for some reason. I believe that BL one of the team went on to be an instructor at a business college. the people I have talked about are real people who have been through a personnel star wars adventure but they lack support in dealing with it and lack a media to talk about it. Often their family is totally hostile to talking about it in public.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2012 9:13:44 GMT -6
I appreciate Mr. Cohen's clarification. However, I can't help but wonder how he resolves in his mind that his "dream" or imagination had him killing something. Maybe he just had a bad day at work, or ate the wrong thing before bed. . . but he also mentions casually that this "dream" scenario has come up again. . . . oh well. Just a stupid dream
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Post by skywalker on Jun 16, 2012 9:36:29 GMT -6
Maybe since he doesn't believe that aliens are real he thinks it is ok to kill them. After all, it can't hurt to kill a fictional character can it? I wouldn't mind killing Ren and Stimpy or some of those other annoying cartoon characters.
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Post by randy on Jun 18, 2012 0:08:25 GMT -6
If would be great if greys were not real but that is not reality. During my time in college in various scienece courses they beat out of me any dreaming or wishful thinking as to results of lab or field classes. What was real was all that counted. Much of what I have experienced with greys is far beyond normal human experience. During one abduction a surprized grey wanted to know how I could speak their language. I have no idea how I did that as I didnot take a crash course in grey speak. I am sure that some how I have some sort of survival mode that I can switch to in time of need. Where that comes from I dont know. It is how ever potentially very potent best left alone. based on random things that have happened over time. I have wondered if other people with similar gifts were gathered together could they take over and control the world. You can see where that would go. Human life is rather weak at times and it is vulnerable while human nature can very dark and sinister with primative emotions ruling ones actions at times. Super humans would be great for space exploration but in everyday society they could be deadly
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2012 6:01:56 GMT -6
Randy, when a grey spoke to you did it move its lips or was it speaking in our language telepathically ? I would also like to know if you ever saw them blink their eyes at any time. On the night of my visit they didn't blink their eyes at all or move their small lips. The language spoken was English and it was delivered telepathically as clear as it possibly could be spoken.
You know how you can hear your own mind think ? It was similar to that but not the same "voice" so to speak . From what I gathered they seem to have a " we can do what we want and there isn't much you can do about it " attitude. Sort of caulky and superior over us is what I got from the one anyway which was communicating with me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2012 11:54:39 GMT -6
Randy, when a grey spoke to you did it move its lips or was it speaking in our language telepathically ? I would also like to know if you ever saw them blink their eyes at any time. On the night of my visit they didn't blink their eyes at all or move their small lips. The language spoken was English and it was delivered telepathically as clear as it possibly could be spoken. You know how you can hear your own mind think ? It was similar to that but not the same "voice" so to speak . From what I gathered they seem to have a " we can do what we want and there isn't much you can do about it " attitude. Sort of caulky and superior over us is what I got from the one anyway which was communicating with me. ~nods~
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Post by randy on Jun 19, 2012 0:39:44 GMT -6
I had never thought of it before that while I always heard the greys in English they said that I understood their language since they would not be speaking english to each other. I have wondered about some things that seemed odd at the time. I never recall seeing the lips of the greys move. when I and my friends entered the base on our own we had our full senses. I dont recall the greys ever made a verbal noise to alert other grays to our being there one grey only a short distance away out of sight was totally unaware of us until he saw me enter the room. This creates the question can greys make verbal noises at all? All communication with them has been telepathically either eye to eye or long range. How do you do long range is a question. I recall that I was asked to get something with a strange name and I did not know what it was. It was a coil of cable in a side room. Greys are people and in some cases very similar to humans in actions. they are vain, arrogant and very racist against humans for the most part. I tried to make friends with them but they were very ridged. Yet they tried very hard to get me to cooperate voluntarily in the breeding program,. It was important to them that i want to help them. Why? It needs to be recognized that if the task required it they would freely dissect humans with out a problem. Individual rights mean nothing to them. One grey soldier did not like me and regarded me as a trouble maker. He was a very mean being nazi on steroids
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2012 10:57:44 GMT -6
Even from my dreams of being with "grey men", their mouths didn't move. Some of them didn't seem to have mouths, but I don't know if this became a dream perception because I didn't hear them speak as we would; with our mouths.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2012 13:11:51 GMT -6
Your reply is appreciated Randy. The distance they're able to telepathically communicate is something Ive been curious about . I never heard a sound come from them but I do slightly recall hearing different sounds their tools were making.
I admit that I did have a bad attitude towards them and I did threaten them but I think that is understandable in the situation I was in. I agree also that they are human like in many respects. I guess if they wanted to harm us they could've done it then. I just wish I knew what they were up to.
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Post by randy on Jun 20, 2012 0:38:22 GMT -6
the off guard moments is when they act very human. iN a fight with two greys I threw dirt in the face of one of them who then threw dirt in my face and said "SO there" I had insulted it and it was ticked. In another instance when I wanted to teach younger greys how to play tag they bounced up and down begging older greys to let them do that. Just like human kids would do. In another instance I came face to face with a young grey who looked at me and said "Boo" and laughed at me. They can be very cold arrogant and viciously cruel but they also are very human at times
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Post by randy on Jun 26, 2012 23:31:52 GMT -6
Over all the environment in the grey base was not that bad and I could have easily felt comfortable there working on things for the greys but there is also the side of me who likes the sun and the sky and the wind in the wild places. I tend to forget that our culture was gone in the mists of time when I was sitting on the hill as a kid looking at my home town. We had fallen some how. I have been concerned that the greys maybe going to invade us but it could also be that they are trying to stop our fall as a world power. Both my sister and I have the feeling of wanting to preserve knowledge hence i have thousands of books in storage. Most of which I have read over time on history. My sister will buy rope thinking she will need rope for later. What later?
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Post by randy on Jun 26, 2012 23:34:57 GMT -6
ARe the greys us come back in time. Are they genetically altered humans from the future? Just an idea
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2012 8:00:27 GMT -6
ARe the greys us come back in time. Are they genetically altered humans from the future? Just an idea This would be a good time for Charles to come in and talk about their propensity for ice cream! ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2012 8:58:13 GMT -6
ARe the greys us come back in time. Are they genetically altered humans from the future? Just an idea Who Is this? And what have you done with Randy?? ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2012 9:16:48 GMT -6
All joking aside . I couldn't leave like this. . . When is the last time you have watched (or read) Phil Schneider? (spelling?) Two things I don't like about this guy, Phil. 1). He can show you a recent bullet wound to his shoulder, but not a scar on his chest. Supposedly a life threatening injury that also gave him cancer. 2). He goes on about how TPTB knew all about the "alien" problem of the underground. He doesn't explain why he already knew to have a gun with him on the job. And, folks, I have no problem otherwise with a geologist/engineer (etc.) having a handgun. I love how he goes on about our Constitution and the definition of a traitor ;D. Priceless. Randy, have you gone soft on me? . We can look at today's world, and how parents can track their kids with a cell phone. Don't tell me every poor kid has a cell phone, and/ or an adult in their life that really cares for them There are just way too many missing people! That in itself tells me that some of these "aliens" are not just us visiting from the future. I also question how Phil gets his message out at all. How come this guy just didn't go missing?
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