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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2012 14:38:56 GMT -6
Interesting thoughts, here. Last week the movie "signs" came on. I found it hard to watch past the part of the son having to kill their dog because it changed personality. I made it to the part of the two main characters running around the house in opposite directions, and the "E.T" jumping over their heads. . . funny, I watched this movie before, all the way to the end . Ok, so this movie addressed the "fear" part. But if "they" are really here, and biding their time to go public, then I'm not going to want to just shoot one that shows up at my house. How rude. Randy, please address your gut instincts on these guys. You were put in more than one scenario, with chances to adapt. For example, my little dog always barks at my dad coming in the house. It is unnerving. But sometimes, very rarely, he doesn't. And, my little dog will sit in his chair expectant for his arrival, very rarely also. It's not something we can figure out. Though a little rough, and gruff, my dad is known as a good man. I'm probably the only person that thinks of him as gruff . So looking at it that way, maybe my dog senses a trepidation in me, if anything. I'm trying to tie in the "animal reaction". We always hear that animals don't like the alien presence at all. How are "they" going to cope with that??
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2012 15:21:17 GMT -6
That movie always scares me JC... It's one of my favorite movies though... ;D Sometimes I like to watch scary movies...
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Post by sunbow on Dec 9, 2012 15:32:02 GMT -6
There are contact reports where cats, dogs, and other animals are with the ETs and seem content and at peace with them. Perhaps it depends on which ETs. Often there is quiet reported right before contact, though sometimes dogs barking in mentioned. I do not think we have enough data yet. Our animals might reacted better than we do around them.
Definitely no 'if' that they are here now. IMO: They have been here throughout history. They are not Visitors. I like the term Watchers, since they seem to observe everything about us and have for ages. Though they also interact and perhaps have a mythic presence which alters our consciousness and thereby directs the course of our history. They could wait in the shadows for another thousand years, since so few of us know of their presence.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2012 17:19:09 GMT -6
Sorry, my "if" had "going public" attached . I believe "they" are here also, and don't often appear as themselves. Several reasons for that. I guess I need to go looking for "good alien" stories that involve animals. I would like to believe that there is a good part of them that often keeps the "bad ones" at bay. People disappear every year, for whatever reason. It would be interesting to see how many animals disappear with them also. I've talked before on here about having "gut reactions" to people I have met. I have never once had the thought cross my mind during this "gut reaction" that this particular person was "alien". Its more like the person is a person, but actively hiding a part of themselves. I have found that it is not always hiding this side from the world in general, but maybe just from me on first meeting. Gee, what were we talking about?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2012 17:30:55 GMT -6
I believe that the "quiet" right before contact, has something to do with them toying with our minds. What I mean by this, is dogs barking just may be part of the familiar. Are dogs really barking? I have to wonder this, because of an experience I had. It actually alerted me to the possibility that something "weird" was going on, if not just with my brain . I was able to "shake off" the feeling, and whatever it was went away shortly after. It became overly quiet in my house one morning. Not exactly uncomfortable, but expectant. I swear, the birds I heard outside sounded like cranes. Birds hadn't even been singing, and then I heard that. Yes, my mind thought for a moment about the ocean, and how peaceful that is. And these thoughts didn't fit in my morning very well. So I shook it off. Prayed, and felt a little tired. Like you also said, we know sooo little. (oops! instead of cranes I meant seagulls. . .)
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Post by plutronus on Dec 10, 2012 3:39:10 GMT -6
There are contact reports where cats, dogs, and other animals are with the ETs and seem content and at peace with them. Perhaps it depends on which ETs. Often there is quiet reported right before contact, though sometimes dogs barking in mentioned. I do not think we have enough data yet. Our animals might reacted better than we do around them. Definitely no 'if' that they are here now. IMO: They have been here throughout history. They are not Visitors. I like the term Watchers, since they seem to observe everything about us and have for ages. Though they also interact and perhaps have a mythic presence which alters our consciousness and thereby directs the course of our history. They could wait in the shadows for another thousand years, since so few of us know of their presence. SunBow, (et al),
I completely agree with you about ET presence, and also, that they have been here far too long for their agenda to be one of science.
However, I don't believe that ET are studying us, and its my opinion, that they are not likely just simply observing us either, as the evidence that I've seen and considered, seems to suggest, that there are too many craft being seen the world over. Earth could be a zoo? But thats contrary to the widely accepted scientific (SETIville) notion that Earth is under a leaky-embargo sanction. I know you prefer the 'Watchers' notion as I've seen you use it elsewhere, and it seems that some of your perspections also follow the 'Voyagers' theme somewhat, as written by Ashayanna Dean, (aka 'Anna Hayes'), her (now) ex-husband, also an ET subject lecturer, frequently stayed as a guest in my home when in town lecturing. Anna Hays educated many people about some of the true nature of alien presence. In any case, I like to think of them as 'managers' rather than as simply being 'watchers' because, well, they do more than just watch. But the phrase 'watchers' is as good as any, I guess?
And then, (a little out of reply order) I am not intending to detract from what you say about the animals, but my information is different from yours. I too have read a bit on the subject. As best I can determine, I've read something like ~7,500 sighting reports over the past 20 years. Frankly, I have no recollection of any reports where animals were seen with aliens, or around alien objects, or in the vicinity of suspected alien objects whether on the ground landed or in the sky, in which animals were reported to be at peace, or otherwise acting 'normal'. On the other hand, in virtually every sighting report where there is reported animal activity, and there are thousands of those reports, that describe extreme animal agitation, consisting of --fear, wildly gnawing on their chains to become free, cattle jumping through barbed wire, horses stamping and wheenoing at their hitching posts, cats hiding, dogs whimpering and scampering underneath porches, dogs frantically barking, pigs squealing, etc. I'd like to see reports otherwise.
There are also numerous reports of animals being attacked by rays of light, of dogs disappearing into constricting diaphram like portals ("The Hunt for the Skinwalker", by Colm Kelleher, Ph.D., & Errol Knapp 'UFOupdates List') and multiple large animal mutilations ("Brain Trust", by Colm Kelleher, Ph.D.). Cattle being hoisted off the ground by strange hovering object (reported by Alexander Hamilton, 1887, 'Flying Saucers, Serious Business', Frank Edwards), also reported by IntraVal (Paul Allen's group)
For a short time, I looked into the possibility that ET objects might emit a high pitch 'tone' of large magnitude which is perceptible by animals but not by Humans due to differences in ear geometry, but unfortunately, I felt that there was not information recorded regarding the specific animals in most of the reports, to warrant doing a study. I did at one time contact (early 1990s) bob Herr (now deceased) of the San Diego California area. bob was an instrumentation engineer who (like myself), designed and constructed his own ET surveillance instrumentation. Also information from Ray Stanford (engineer) founder of the original Starlight International (not to be confused with Steven Greer's (later) Starlight International group), bob Herr, deployed a very sensitive (expensive) wide-band (10 Hz up to 1.5 GHz) data-logging (via GPIB) spectrum analyzer, with an RBW of 10 Hertz. bob also (like myself) discovered how to invite ET object interaction. In bob's field interaction experiments, he was unable to detect 'audible' spectra using his sensitive wide-band instruments. He believed that the animals were reacting to non-perceptible (magnitude below the hearing-floor) spectra, but the wavelength, he said, 'remains a mystery'.
I am seriously interested in this subject area, if you happen (or anyone else) happen know of, or come across any future animal behavior reports, that describe either positive or negative animal behavior, please, I'd like see the report. (via PM here at TEOR.)
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Post by paulette on Dec 10, 2012 12:42:43 GMT -6
Plutronus - I didn't realize the level of investigation you have done - monitoring for physically observable phenomena as well as pyschic. Glad to have you here.
The animals were going crazy the night I interacted with something. It's under Paulette's history here - moved from Mufron site by me.
We don't have a pet and I sometimes (at night) feel strongly that I'd like a good nose and another set of ears and a loyal animal's sensings nearby. I hear things at night that are probably just regular earth night sounds - raccoons in the back yard, rumbling noises that might be big trucks driving through town late at night. If I had a dog and he was interested, I might feel a little more vigilant. Right now I just burrow down into sleep as fast as I can. I do believe that I'm too old to be interesting to "Them" anymore but also that I still react if "They" are in the area. I'm amused to discover that Vancouver Island has a fairly high amount of accounts over the years. Where I lived in Wisconsin did as well and then the Texas coast. Maybe everywhere does but it does seem like I've lived in hotspots all my life...
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Post by bogey on Dec 10, 2012 18:13:04 GMT -6
I had an occurrence back in the late 90's that involved my dog. He seemed happy to see the visitors. I may share the details of that night soon. I still get shaken up over it. My dog was fine and happy in the morning. My dog passed away a few years later, he was 16 years old. Now I have two cats. They sleep by my bedroom door every night and seems very protective. I can't watch the movie signs. I have it in my attic.
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Post by skywalker on Dec 10, 2012 18:23:44 GMT -6
Perhaps the animals sense the ET craft the same way they sense earthquakes before they happen. Not quite sure how they do that though. I think it has something to do with low-frequency radio waves. Something that is out of the range of human hearing.
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Post by randy on Dec 14, 2012 0:23:11 GMT -6
The land the greys base is on was owned at the time I was a kid by an older man who lived on Atherton Ave. I heard him say one time that the could not get his cattle to graze on the hillside they just hubbled together in a corner of the pasture at the bottom of the hill and refused to move. he was grumbling that he had to buy hay to feed them as a result. cows it seems do not like the greys. My gut instinct on the greys is mixed but looking at the record they are subverting people in our leadership and then they did teach me to blow up cities. Earth like cities. the explosions I created on the learning screens resulted in human like rib cages flying through the air. Based on this the idea that the greys are friendly is a little thin considering my experiences. the greys like termites have a soldier class of grey that is bigger and heavier than the average grey. Why do they have soldiers with a special body morphology if they do not intend to use them. Greys are arrogant beings who consider humans inferior to be controlled by force if needed. I found that out at times. so gut feeling? Dont trust them period. a friend does not teach a kid to blow up a city. An enemy does that.
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Post by sunbow on Dec 14, 2012 10:59:11 GMT -6
Randy: From your reports it seems that the aliens who are working with the government are nasties. However a vast number of reports also claim that they are hear because they are worried about us, because humanities current actions which are leading to cascading ecosystem collapse due to environmental degradation. There are also many reports that the aliens are trying to awaken us spiritually and return to us our psychic powers.
It is likely that dogs judge each ET as they do humans. Dog owners will understand this statement completely. If your dog does not like someone, you are better off disassociating with that person.
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Post by sunbow on Dec 14, 2012 11:20:08 GMT -6
Plutronis, (et al), I agree with the line of reasoning that they have been here too long to simply be observing us scientifically. Their expenditure in being hours and resources implies some greater agenda. We are not simply a nature reserve under a prime directive status. I struggle for a term to refer to them as. They are not Visitors, they have been here perhaps longer than we have and show no inclination to be leaving any time soon. They are not Uninvited Guests, since we do not have social interaction with them Watchers comes from Enoch, but they do more than watch. They are not Overlords or managers, unless they are a failure, since Earth is a total mess (starving babies, war, species decline,...).
We are not sure they are ETs, since they may or may not have evolved on some other planet. I personally think many are ETs, but what about hyper-dimensional beings, parallel universes, and biologically enhanced machines, not to mention some older species which evolved on Earth or humans returning from the future.
I believe a name has power. Our lack of an appropriate title for them dis-empowers us. Though they may be many of the above that we refer to collectively as 'them', we do need an accurate title for these beings. The fact that they are not forthcoming in their interactions with humanity seems to be a characteristic which they ALL share. They are sneaky and stealthy, but that does not automatically define their intention, beyond that they wish to keep their intent from us. Observations of indigenous humans encountering advanced humans and losing their culture might imply that it is better if we remain naive.
Any true insight on what to call them would be a step forward in our understanding. I have wrestled with this and I know other's in the literature have also.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2012 17:35:11 GMT -6
I truly don't believe aliens are working with our government (sorry Randy but I've never made a secret of disagreeing with that). I think our government is more igannant than we are and worried because they don't have solutions ready should it be necessary to have solutions. I don't think they are here to be helpful I think they are observers of a phenomena that will occur. I also think (as you do Sunbow) that inner preparation IS the only prep necessary...if you look around the world..at people going off their rocker and shooting others or committing suicide..the numbers are huge...and now the latest school killings Some people cannot make the mental adjustments..and the pressure IS getting stronger. My neighbor fights with her 82 year old mom and her son..and doesn't know why.. people are combative in stores..on the roads..and I believe this is the herald of a huge shift in consciousness..a new reality for many...and very personal.
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Post by sunbow on Dec 14, 2012 17:53:29 GMT -6
I guess I have serious doubts about aliens working with the governments also. The government seems to blunder along. What's in it for the aliens? The Internet myth states 'permission to abduct a certain quota": like they would ask permission. The Internet myth is they hide all the technology they are getting. By now there would have been obvious spinn offs -since there are so many greedy people involved. I am a believer that the technology that the public has, is created by humans. The government may have back-engineered some things, but even then, as I once read, "Would a fifteenth century clockmaker be able to back engineer a cell phone?"
I feel a major change coming. Inner perception and inner peace are what we must work with. Somehow I feel the idea's of 'personal', 'private', 'this is where I begin and end', and other individualistic illusions are going to fail, and in their wake will be community and relationship as defining being. I just pray the transition is not to hard as personal islands all come toground against each other.
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Post by randy on Dec 15, 2012 1:48:02 GMT -6
It isnt that the greys are working with the govt, it is that the govt cant control the greys and in a postion of a person in a room with a tiger. The only available food for the tiger is the person in the room. Sooner or later the tiger will eat the person no matter how much they smile or act nice to the tiger. The simple fact is that the govt has no way to make the greys leave. The greys got a toe hold and they are setting down roots. they are breeding and have been for half a century. Everyone is free to believe what they want to dont worry about that. Simple logic suggests that a superior technology will triumph in the end. Cortez with his cannons and horses triumphed over the Aztecs who out numbered him and had a huge army to call on. Since the greys have been here they have not offered a cure for cancer nor a plan for world peace. By appearing as the solution for ending the fear of nuclear war they could gain millions of supporters who would support them to the death. Some of our people have thrown in with the greys in hopes of getting a high position on earth with them. The boy I knew in the base whos father was prof at Stanford was such an example. His father gave his son to the greys with the idea the son would gain power. It did not happen that way at least in public. the mentality of throwing your son to aliens to help raise is beyond me. the son was always afraid of me that I would replace him at something You cant trust the greys they have not helped us in any way and they are increasing in numbers. They could have breed thousands of them by now Where are they right now and what are they doing that is a question
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2012 2:00:57 GMT -6
I pretty much concur with everything you've said Sunbow..I keep feeling like some giant hand is about to shake a rug under us..connected but not. Guess we'll see huh?
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Post by plutronus on Dec 15, 2012 4:30:52 GMT -6
I guess I have serious doubts about aliens working with the governments also. The government seems to blunder along. What's in it for the aliens? The Internet myth states 'permission to abduct a certain quota": like they would ask permission. The Internet myth is they hide all the technology they are getting. By now there would have been obvious spinn offs -since there are so many greedy people involved. I am a believer that the technology that the public has, is created by humans. The government may have back-engineered some things, but even then, as I once read, "Would a fifteenth century clockmaker be able to back engineer a cell phone?" I feel a major change coming. Inner perception and inner peace are what we must work with. Somehow I feel the idea's of 'personal', 'private', 'this is where I begin and end', and other individualistic illusions are going to fail, and in their wake will be community and relationship as defining being. I just pray the transition is not to hard as personal islands all come toground against each other. >The Internet myth states 'permission to abduct a certain quota": like they would ask permission.
Alot of what is being parroted around these days on the InterNet is the effective 'edification' of non-serious ET studiers by orchestrated disinformation campaigns and much 'informed' babbling. The Agua-Dulce information, that you cited, ("quota") is known hoax. Not to mention, that anyone with a brain who actually read the information as that junk became available, (a lot of it by the likes of William Moore, a self admitted disinfo officer, supposedly), should have known instantly by all the mistakes in logic and statements concerning defense facility security. It was junk then, its junk now, but lots of folks parrot it around like they know something. However, that does not negate the actual US Military contacts that were made in the 1950s on highway 54, the road to White Sands Missile Proving Grounds as reported by the range scientists who were contacted and later were interviewed by the local TV station. Look that up, if you can find it, never been much info about it on the 'Net. As there is no central repository for these type information, it becomes lost to the ages, as those who know about these events, die.
>The Internet myth is they hide all the technology they are getting.
There is disinfo that was mainly originated by Phillip Corso about S4 disc reverse-engineering (did any perchance read what he said?), that technologies such as LASERs, and fiber-optics were technologies that were reverse-engineered (the actual phrase used by engineers in industry, rather than Lazar's misuse of it and parroted around) and then released to the major contractors. Its poppy-cock. Its commonly believed in the NEETS community that the story was a disinfo designed to obfuscate the fact that S4 disc contained no obvious internal connection paths from the control-panels to the navigation and propulsion effectors, that the hardware was psionic in its operation...the pilots were directly integrated into the mecha as an integral part of the mecha function. So they invented bull-sh.it to make everything a bit smelly.
>I am a believer that the technology that the public has, is created by humans.
Guys such as Paul Allen, Laurence Rockefeller (deceased), and Robert Bigelow hire capable scientific investigators to specifically reverse-engineer observable craft exhibitions (such as plasma fields) and other measurable alien technology. Some of it they develop for internal usage, and while, much of the successful and applicable, is sold via contract engineering to the DoD. I can cite an example, privately, if anyone is interested? But as you point out, these technologies are not used by the public, but rather in military applications. And frankly, science knows exactly how LASERs and fiber-optics were developed and by whom.
>The government may have back-engineered some things, but even then, as I once read, "Would a fifteenth century clockmaker be able to back engineer a cell phone?"
You are citing something I am fairly certain that I wrote, or that you read that was parroted by someone who read my articles regarding this subject. I used the cell-phone as the example and the cell-network required to make it functional, as cell-phones in of themselves, can not function as a telecommunication device. In any case, that's good. Folks are beginning to discount the disinfo bull-sh.it being spread about.
I have had several running gun-battles with folks over the years regarding this subject. It takes many common reference points to be able to reverse engineer hardware. Its one thing to replicate an observable machine behavior or to acquire new ideas about how to accomplish things, but its quite another to actually take something apart and to duplicate its exact functionality, without all of the supporting and relevant technologies which must be in-place and were used by an to create the article in its form. Something like trying to reverse-engineer an integrated-circuit, containing millions of electronic components in the area of a finger-nail without having first developed nano-level microscopy, let alone, recreate it without knowledge of how to dope the crystalline materials used into semiconductor operation bands or how to create nano-meter wide circuit paths without the precision tools used to create the manufacturing tools.
>Inner perception and inner peace are what we must work with.
Quite true, and is the basis of all Human Mystical Ascension. We are now in the period of the UpShift.
Cycles within cycles.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2012 11:32:22 GMT -6
I'm so happy to hear your input on reverse-engineering..because it's been a bone of contention to me for a long time. You still have to have some idea of what you're doing to um.. make Velcro People tend to believe anything and everything they read and some of the people making this stuff up..have the brain equivalency of ferrets..devious, playful and tricky but not very smart..Dulce is one..such. AND while I'm on a band stand..a LOT of books are just ways to make $ because right now especially, it's a hot subject. Reminds me of that commercial where the girl is talking to her friend and mentions that you can't put anything on the Internet that's not true (she read that on the Internet) and then up walks her new date the French model who looks like a sloth.....yep.....can't put it on the net or in a book if it's not true. 'sigh'. People believe that.
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Post by sunbow on Dec 15, 2012 13:04:38 GMT -6
What bothers me is that some of the disinformation is intentional by a well funded source. It makes sense that the military would want other countries to believe we have a secret space program and gravitational engines and... There is quite an advantage to having a psychological advantage.
My issue is that they seem to promote what little bad and scary stuff they can and make up huge bodies of false data which supports the 'all aliens are bad' and/or 'we are being invaded' theories. I'm sure it helps keep funding coming in, but there are likely more sinister reasons for this. Some might include: 'an excuse for the murders they have committed' or 'keeping an open door for a false flag event'.
There is another one which is the most likely, the aliens believe in a semi-egalitarian way of life. Not that everyone has everything the same or that those who do extreme professions do not have perks, but that the entire population is cared for and no one has immense excess which only serves to support their selfish ego (which would be politicians and the corporate elite which they serve). To imagine that the ETs believe the tenants which the Spiritual Masters have taught would scare the pants off these people. This is, I believe, the greatest thing the world's elite would fear: more powerful beings over whom they have no control and who would advocate returning control to the people and ending the pyramidal hierarchy of wealth.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2012 15:00:15 GMT -6
Sadly very true..and they count on the igannant and/or innocent to keep pushing the disinformation...because as we know..if you hear it from many sources..it just HAS to be true. The most terrifying thing for a government (like ours or others that are aggressive) would be to discover beings stronger and smarter. I'm pretty sure that most of the movies portraying either evil or aggressive or conniving aliens isn't by accident either. Who wants to be friends with people who gobble down live rats and look at you with overly friendly eyes? Think of how many good compared to bad alien movies there are and the caliber of those and of course the very best of actors to take out the bad aliens..
war of the worlds independence day signs predator alien solaris mars attacks (inane but still bad guys) the thing invasion of the body snatchers battle of los angeles and a host of others..
are we being 'primed' and manipulated to be fearful and on the attack?
Don't get me wrong..I love the good guys..Close Encounters is a favorite of mine..but the good ones are out numbered because even in westerns..bad guys sell. See a black hat..shoot it..mentality. Mine was not a pleasant abduction..but I've never said they were 'dangerous'. Dispationate..yep..cold..and insensitive absolutely but not threatening in a sense of serious harm or death. I don't like em..they break laws and they are callous but I wouldn't kill one. I might hit its toe with a hammer or slug it just once but my own feelings have always been if they wanted our planet they would have it. I think the government is darned afraid of what they don't know. On the other hand..I have a great need to understand why they pick who they do..and what the purpose is. I'm thinking..those answers are not for the whole world.
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Post by auntym on Dec 15, 2012 15:09:51 GMT -6
how do you really know...Hmmmm... IMO ... you just know... you may not be able to prove it, but you know... its that knowing feeling...
i also believe the military is working with the aliens...the bad aliens... and have been since roswell...
i do believe there are good aliens out there who intervene in certain instances... like shutting down our missiles & etc.
i believe PHILIP CORSO spoke the truth in his book THE DAY AFTER ROSWELL... he was dying when he wrote the book...
...and PAUL HELLYER backed CORSO's book claiming it was all true... these articles from both men are on this forum somewhere...
has anyone here read the book UFOs by LESLIE KEAN?... its very enlightening, i highly recommend it...
i believe there are a lot of disinformation agents out there... but CORSO & HELLYER are not one of them...
i believe there are disinformation agents on this forum...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2012 20:03:45 GMT -6
Maybe so, you never know but if there are...none come across that way to me. All that I see here are people expressing differing opinions and that's as normal as can be. Auntie..are you a disinformation agent? Kidding of course. I think everyone here is open minded..it's just that some are waiting for more tangible proof before jumping in. I know very well that many here...want to believe in the good of visiting aliens..and there may well be some..I just haven't run into them myself...I haven't run into bigfoot either but I believe they are out there. I've always believed in Nessie. I also think..that there isn't a thing wrong with differing opinions and beliefs..it's what sets us apart from most animals Nope..I'm not an agent for the 'other side' ;D
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Post by auntym on Dec 15, 2012 20:37:37 GMT -6
Auntie..are you a disinformation agent? Kidding of course. ;D ;D ... could be...
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Post by sunbow on Dec 15, 2012 21:23:01 GMT -6
I'm more afraid of some humans than of the aliens (or wild animals). The aliens are powerful and do what they want, ignoring laws and human civility, they have an agenda and a job to do, but they are not insane or egomaniacs raising themselves above other people.
"I'm thinking..those answers are not for the whole world." - Interesting, perhaps some are and some are not. Most of the world are not burning with the questions that we are. I want to know about the galaxy that I live in. I want to know the true story of humanity. I understand that it might be mind blowing, but so were the things I have gone through. I assume that if I knew those answers, most people would not believe them anyway. Some people have a way of believing things that are so far from reality and yet being so closed within themselves, that they just can't grow. The aliens shocked us by their treatment of us. I'll admit that I was a lot more full of myself and complacent in my understanding of things before my main encounters (yet perhaps they worked with me from youth, so I even more so don't have answers).
I hope they shock the whole planet someday soon.
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Post by skywalker on Dec 15, 2012 21:38:36 GMT -6
Speaking of reverse engeneering stuff...what about the so-called memory metal? I believe that was reversed engeneered from the Roswell crash. The company who created it even admits the program was originally started in 1947...and they just happen to be a defense contractor for Wright-Patterson which is one of the areas that the debris from Roswell was flown to. If that wasn't reversed engineered it is a darned big coincidence.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2012 0:08:00 GMT -6
Hmmm...stroking my chin..you the disinformation agent Sky??? Seem a bit dodgey to me. Speaking of amazing stuff have you seen the new stealth stuff? Not quite Romulun cloaking but close enough.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2012 0:47:44 GMT -6
I am not a disinformation agent! I'm just a crazy lady living in the arctic... ;D So what if I wear a black suit and sunglasses every Tuesday! C'mon now Auntie... just like at this pen... that's right... look at it... mmm hmm.. *~flash~* ;D
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Post by auntym on Dec 16, 2012 3:06:32 GMT -6
I am not a disinformation agent! I'm just a crazy lady living in the arctic... ;D So what if I wear a black suit and sunglasses every Tuesday! C'mon now Auntie... just like at this pen... that's right... look at it... mmm hmm.. *~flash~* ;D me thinks you protest too much... LOL Well... now we're even... now we both have a picture of each other...
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Post by sunbow on Dec 16, 2012 8:55:36 GMT -6
The memory metal is something to consider. It was definitely developed. The original supposedly would not be harmed by bullets, but this stuff is not strong, just returns to its original shape. Perhaps this is what Plutonis stated, where we see a characteristic and then work to get the functionality, rather than truely understanding the original. I have read about this case. It is possible this is true reverse engineering. I do believe Roswell happened, and there are groups that work at figuring it out.
Secret Agent? Me: an old hippie musician, probably with a bunch of case files in the Secret Agent man's file cabinet: but an idealistic believer in world peace, so no danger and no value to those goofs.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2012 11:39:55 GMT -6
me thinks you protest too much... LOL Well... now we're even... now we both have a picture of each other... I don't have a picture of you... Do I?
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