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Post by Steve on Mar 15, 2012 7:56:59 GMT -6
Dear Sansseed, Will let you as you must, sit & debate the cost/gain in your mind. But do know that you do add to the discussions. I can totally relate. I am in a dilemma. I have been asked to be a Internet radio show host for one program with EPIC next Monday night at 6 PM pacific. It was thrust upon me yesterday. I don't have any guests. So I know what you mean about cost gain analysis. I have tons I could talk about, but they are bound from the public by witness confidences gained and might reveal a number of sources for information. What am I to do? Anyone here wish to discuss their case with me on the program? 'B'? Tom? Others? We can use pseudonyms and conceal where and when... If not I will have to call back and decline the offer and they will have to scrounge up someone at the last minute. No responses from Jim Sparks - and usually he wants to charge an arm and a leg. No thanks! I am usually very protective of witnesses like an old mother hen...so it is always a bit awkward. Done a number of shows as a guest, but never a host. Maybe a relaxed but deep insightful discussion just of the things we are talking about here perhaps.....? Steve
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Post by paulette on Mar 15, 2012 9:04:57 GMT -6
You are welcome to use any specifically non-identifying parts of my story (like my name). I decided a long time ago that I was going to live up front. That being said, I think that there are aspects of my experience that would invalidate me as a witness. So you are welcome not to use me as well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2012 10:44:29 GMT -6
People are looking for answers. Those who have 'experienced' the terror of an abduction want to know why. Those who are interested in UFO's want to know everything they can. Some people just want to believe everything they read and eliminate all common sense. We say we love a mystery..wrong we hate them and want them all solved . I want to know why a group of small mean minded little thugs snatched a couple of teenage girls out riding in broad daylight and introduced them to a lifetime of confusion ..and most of you here wonder the same about yourselves. I think there are thousands who haven't started to remember or their minds don't want them going there at all. People laugh at us or pity us and a lot of them really don't want to hear what we have to say because..that would mean there is a very uncontrollable menace on planet earth. Of course..there are the ones who make us look like nut cases and talk about all of these wonderful aliens who are here to lift us out of our troubles and welcome us into the great federation of planets (ohhh Star Trek come to life). Among the Arcturians and Pleiadians there are probably Klingons and Romulans too Spend some time with them and see how nice they are So..if there ARE good aliens on planet earth the good guys would stop the bad guys right..or would that make them bad guys too? Or there is a manipulative master race playing games with us all. So much to choose from...so little help. What a dysfunctional little family we are with our nightmares and night terrors and scanning the skies and in some cases..with the lasting memory of it. I've been at this for so long that I can honestly say..for every step forward someone shoves you neatly back into place without a shred of evidence. There are people who say they channel the Archangel Michael or Gabriel or God Himself and they offer great and sage advice on how to live our lives pretty much like the Pleiadians or the Arcturians. Selective advertising? I'm starting not to like the ride a lot
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Post by sansseed on Mar 15, 2012 12:11:52 GMT -6
Dear Sansseed, Will let you as you must, sit & debate the cost/gain in your mind. But do know that you do add to the discussions. I can totally relate. I am in a dilemma. I have been asked to be a Internet radio show host for one program with EPIC next Monday night at 6 PM pacific. It was thrust upon me yesterday. I don't have any guests. So I know what you mean about cost gain analysis. I have tons I could talk about, but they are bound from the public by witness confidences gained and might reveal a number of sources for information. What am I to do? Anyone here wish to discuss their case with me on the program? 'B'? Tom? Others? We can use pseudonyms and conceal where and when... If not I will have to call back and decline the offer and they will have to scrounge up someone at the last minute. No responses from Jim Sparks - and usually he wants to charge an arm and a leg. No thanks! I am usually very protective of witnesses like an old mother hen...so it is always a bit awkward. Done a number of shows as a guest, but never a host. Maybe a relaxed but deep insightful discussion just of the things we are talking about here perhaps.....? Steve Thanks, Steve. I appreciate your kind words. I can see your delimma. For those of us who know/wonder/suspect our experiences are caused from other world entities, it's difficult for us to trust. I'm sure all that are working with you appreciate you guarding their stories and identities with such diligence. that's a bond of trust you don't want to betray. Follow your heart and do as you must.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2012 8:20:06 GMT -6
Hi Steve, sure why not. I may have a few others for you as well. Awesome, Tom!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2012 8:37:17 GMT -6
... It was thrust upon me yesterday. I don't have any guests. So I know what you mean about cost gain analysis. I have tons I could talk about, but they are bound from the public by witness confidences gained and might reveal a number of sources for information. What am I to do? Anyone here wish to discuss their case with me on the program? 'B'? Tom? Others? We can use pseudonyms and conceal where and when... If not I will have to call back and decline the offer and they will have to scrounge up someone at the last minute. ... I am usually very protective of witnesses like an old mother hen...so it is always a bit awkward. Done a number of shows as a guest, but never a host. Maybe a relaxed but deep insightful discussion just of the things we are talking about here perhaps.....? Steve (chopping of post done by me, again). 1. I feel like you were put on the spot here, Steve. And you are thinking of them finding someone "last minute" ? 2. This forum is public enough for me (for now). Baby steps. 3. I do sense that you are indeed protective of others, Steve. If I remember correctly (which is sometimes doubtful ), you debated with yourself and others the being hypnotized issue. You initially thought it would help you to "get closer" to experiencers, and reassuring them that it was OK to undergo hypnosis? 4. I'm sure you will be a great host. Your idea about the relaxed.....discussion about certain fears, including Tom's input on that (how long did it take Tom to feel "better" about speaking publicly, etc.) sounds good, too.
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Post by skywalker on Mar 16, 2012 20:45:06 GMT -6
Dear Sansseed, Will let you as you must, sit & debate the cost/gain in your mind. But do know that you do add to the discussions. I can totally relate. I am in a dilemma. I have been asked to be a Internet radio show host for one program with EPIC next Monday night at 6 PM pacific. It was thrust upon me yesterday. I don't have any guests. So I know what you mean about cost gain analysis. I have tons I could talk about, but they are bound from the public by witness confidences gained and might reveal a number of sources for information. What am I to do? Anyone here wish to discuss their case with me on the program? 'B'? Tom? Others? We can use pseudonyms and conceal where and when... If not I will have to call back and decline the offer and they will have to scrounge up someone at the last minute. No responses from Jim Sparks - and usually he wants to charge an arm and a leg. No thanks! I am usually very protective of witnesses like an old mother hen...so it is always a bit awkward. Done a number of shows as a guest, but never a host. Maybe a relaxed but deep insightful discussion just of the things we are talking about here perhaps.....? Steve If you feel like talking to a good ol' boy from Texas you are welcome to interview me...just don't make fun a mah ack-sent. ;D Don't mention anything about the government either...other wise I would probably go off on one of my lunatically insane anti-government rants that would make people think you were interviewing Rush Limbaugh. And don't say anything about Obama or I am liable to say something like mmfff-%^$$ mumrmph#$&^@^%#%!! Hmm...maybe it might be better to not let me get anywhere near a radio. I'm liable to say something that might get me in even bigger trouble than I already am.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2012 0:45:27 GMT -6
~hugz sky~ You can use my stories too Steve if you want, just not my real name and please use not-too specific identifying details... I wish you the best of luck with this project. I'm sure you'll do great! ~hugz~
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2012 1:54:40 GMT -6
~hugz sky~ You can use my stories too Steve if you want, just not my real name and please use not-too specific identifying details... I wish you the best of luck with this project. I'm sure you'll do great! ~hugz~ Steve, like I wrote in the pm if you have air time that you need to fill in I dont have a problem with you mentioning the experience I had also . My identity is not a concern to me. I just dont want to personally speak over the air about it. Im not ready to take that step yet . Either way, good luck with the program !
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Post by Steve on Mar 17, 2012 3:42:01 GMT -6
Thank you everyone for giving me permission and for your trust in these private accounts. It loosens up much about sharing accounts. It will be to a plan, but much will be spontaneous, and don't be disappointed if someones story is shared and another not. It will be much like that. Everything is in flux but forming up. One guest suggested lives now in Australia! He was nice enough to call me and said he couldn't make it but could on a weekend despite the time difference. The show time is fixed, but perhaps a pre-recorded interview maybe? Everyone seems to worry about their accent. Don't! Thank you, I am moved. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2012 10:56:48 GMT -6
Thank you everyone for giving me permission and for your trust in these private accounts. It loosens up much about sharing accounts. It will be to a plan, but much will be spontaneous, and don't be disappointed if someones story is shared and another not. It will be much like that. Everything is in flux but forming up. One guest suggested lives now in Australia! He was nice enough to call me and said he couldn't make it but could on a weekend despite the time difference. The show time is fixed, but perhaps a pre-recorded interview maybe? Everyone seems to worry about their accent. Don't! Thank you, I am moved. Steve We got your back man! ~hugz Steve and everyone else too, even the guy in Australia~
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Post by skywalker on Mar 18, 2012 21:48:15 GMT -6
That should be a really good show tomorrow. I'm definitely going to listen to this one.
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Post by Steve on Mar 19, 2012 0:20:41 GMT -6
Talked with the producer of radio show Sunday morning. He is going to run a rerun of a past show on Jim Marrs tomorrow night instead so I can get more time and schedule a session when we can pre-record a much more substantial show.
This way it can be at a time when Jim Sparks (author of ' the Keepers') in Australia, Mary a certified hypnotherapist on the west coast, and 'B' - an experiencer in the east can all be on together at one time perhaps. Would be delighted we can include Tom Reed, and perhaps Jessie and Debbie too. This representing one show or guests over several shows perhaps.
Thank you Tom very much. I look forward to contacting Jessie and Debbie.
'B' did call back, and we talked for some time extensively about her experiences. She said it was very cathartic for her. I am happy for that. She is a fighter, like all of us here. She had offered to be a show guest. So she's solid.
Wouldn't it be neat to have everyone on a program were they can talk informally and spontaneously about their experiences at the same time? A host, an author, a certified hypnotherapist experienced with abduction research with some very special people who have experiences they more or less share in common? An Internet radio version of a abductees support group. Wouldn't that be fascinating? I sense something would emerge that would be greater than the sum of every special person present. I think it would be very cathartic not only for the guests, but for many listeners dealing alone with this in the audience as well.
Many here have also kindly given me permission to talk about their cases without using their names naturally or any way to trace them. They expressed they did not wish to be on the radio themselves. That is quite fine, and I appreciate this.
Scrubbing the show tomorrow for perhaps something far better in the long run.
Thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2012 0:33:30 GMT -6
~hugz B~
You're a very brave woman to be willing to come out about your experiences my dear. More power to you!
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Post by sansseed on Mar 19, 2012 9:29:09 GMT -6
Sounds like a good decision, Steve. Good luck with this endeavor! I'll be very interested when it airs.
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Post by skywalker on Mar 19, 2012 15:26:09 GMT -6
Bummer. I was looking forward to hearing about some of the peoples here on the radio. I suppose it's best to not rush into stuff like that though. They should have given more of an advanced warning instead of saying, "Hey, you're on the air in five minutes!"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2012 15:33:40 GMT -6
Bummer. I was looking forward to hearing about some of the peoples here on the radio. I suppose it's best to not rush into stuff like that though. They should have given more of an advanced warning instead of saying, "Hey, you're on the air in five minutes!" ~nods~
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2012 22:53:12 GMT -6
Funny Sky..I never have thought of you with an accent LOL. My father was Texan and his parents..they had that twang but on a computer well..I don't hear Charles with a Brit accent either and it's one of my favorites
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Post by skywalker on Mar 19, 2012 23:00:13 GMT -6
I met a woman in Florida once who told me that I had the perfect Texas accent. I said,"Accent? I ain't got no accent!" ;D
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2012 6:22:44 GMT -6
Talked with the producer of radio show Sunday morning. He is going to run a rerun of a past show on Jim Marrs tomorrow night instead so I can get more time and schedule a session when we can pre-record a much more substantial show. This way it can be at a time when Jim Sparks (author of ' the Keepers') in Australia, Mary a certified hypnotherapist on the west coast, and 'B' - an experiencer in the east can all be on together at one time perhaps. Would be delighted we can include Tom Reed, and perhaps Jessie and Debbie too. This representing one show or guests over several shows perhaps. Thank you Tom very much. I look forward to contacting Jessie and Debbie. 'B' did call back, and we talked for some time extensively about her experiences. She said it was very cathartic for her. I am happy for that. She is a fighter, like all of us here. She had offered to be a show guest. So she's solid. Wouldn't it be neat to have everyone on a program were they can talk informally and spontaneously about their experiences at the same time? A host, an author, a certified hypnotherapist experienced with abduction research with some very special people who have experiences they more or less share in common? An Internet radio version of a abductees support group. Wouldn't that be fascinating? I sense something would emerge that would be greater than the sum of every special person present. I think it would be very cathartic not only for the guests, but for many listeners dealing alone with this in the audience as well. Many here have also kindly given me permission to talk about their cases without using their names naturally or any way to trace them. They expressed they did not wish to be on the radio themselves. That is quite fine, and I appreciate this. Scrubbing the show tomorrow for perhaps something far better in the long run. Thank you. Steve Sounds good. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2012 6:25:47 GMT -6
Funny Sky..I never have thought of you with an accent LOL. My father was Texan and his parents..they had that twang but on a computer well..I don't hear Charles with a Brit accent either and it's one of my favorites I do "hear" Charles' accent (for whatever reason).
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Post by Steve on Mar 20, 2012 7:19:25 GMT -6
I was waiting at a commuter train station leaving Boston for Reading, Massachusetts in 1980. I was alone after visiting Harvard (I was on a trip with a friend) - they had to take care of something so I explored Boston alone. Why Harvard? Always wanted to see it. Chatting with people on the train one astonished me saying I had a 'California accent'. Only time in my life anyone ever told me that. This after going around the city having heard New England (Kennedy) accents all day (which I enjoyed). The notions some easterners have about California. When I talked with Betty Hill, to put her at ease I told her about my mother in laws New England accent. Whatever happened - it worked and we had a long enjoyable chat. I called her cold turkey - she was in the Portsmouth yellow pages, I guess I was looking for some validation. That was the start of my UFO avocation. When I ever watch the TV film, 'The UFO incident' - I always am so impressed with actor Estelle Parson's Boston accent. (and the whole film in general) She had Betty Hill's accent down exactly. Betty is gone now, along with Barney. But some memories don't fade. Betty Hill 953 State St. Portsmouth, New Hampshire 03801-4334 (603) 436-3803 Steve
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2012 10:23:55 GMT -6
Well if there's a Stetson and Tony Lama's involved..... ;D
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Post by bethabara9 on Mar 20, 2012 19:41:24 GMT -6
((hugging Lorelei back)))
It's not that brave. the radio is still somewhat faceless and anonymous. Although, if I could find out who I am in 5 min. so could anyone else. It would take someone trying, which is different than just having my name attached out right...does that make sense?
I might eventually get to where I don't care if it is, I hope so.
I absolutely loved talking to Steve. You talk about a nice, warm and giving spirit, he one is~~So, thank you Steve, you are a wonderful person!
Cathartic doesn't begin to describe it. To have a conversation, no holds barred, not having to "watch" what I say for fear of shocking the other person or scaring them. It was a huge relief.
He helped by telling me, some of the things I described, others had as well. That alone, helped a lot.
I know I say it quite often but guys,
I am really, really glad I found this site. Yes, I believe in divine guidance and I know I was led here...I hope I can help others as much as I have been helped already by coming here...you know, pay it forward and all.
I told Steve I felt like I already knew him, he seemed like an old friend that I had known for years...feels like that here, too.
For now, I have to go...going to pick up two puppies in the morning, have to drive 4 hours to get them...omgosh, babies~~~ I am just stupid with giddiness over them, nothing beats puppy kisses~~~
B'
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2012 2:15:55 GMT -6
I like the second one the best, although both are very nice...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2012 7:57:09 GMT -6
Thomas, there is a book by author Richard Bach (copyright 1977) called "Illusions (The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah)" that you just reminded me of. It is a story of a simple mechanic who owns a small plane, and told by another small plane pilot. Not a true story. This simple mechanic is like your "Jesus in the woods". IMO. The story has some simple truths, and at first comes across as refreshing. (it basically is a short story of 189 pages). However, it also can be very disturbing.... I was initially asked (and given her copy) to read this book by a woman psychologist. This woman asked me point blank if I had any "missing time", when I didn't even know what that meant. I saw this woman for 4-6 months and have never been able to locate her since. It was a weird situation to say the least. Anyway, this post of mine (right now) may be meaningless, but because you are sharing your thoughts, and my thoughts have been quite similar as of late, plus this book basically fell off my book shelf, . . . I'm going to read the book again. Hope you have a good day
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2012 23:54:25 GMT -6
I know I say it quite often but guys, I am really, really glad I found this site. Yes, I believe in divine guidance and I know I was led here...I hope I can help others as much as I have been helped already by coming here...you know, pay it forward and all. B' Thank you and welcome again B . I think we were all led here
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Post by Steve on Mar 25, 2012 5:39:05 GMT -6
Paulette, Steve, if you want me to remove the video, I will with no hard feelings. I didn't intend to get anyone upset or start a fight. Oh don't worry about it Lorelei. Lately I have been frustrated securing guests to be on Inception Radio. I encountered the same again this week. So I told those making the very nice flattering offer to me to be a radio host it only distracts from my research. Apart from educating the public - nothing related to investigations and helping people has ever been accomplished from behind any microphone. Those making the invitation have been stressing to me interestingly they would much prefer someone who has had some actual field investigations experience on the air 'instead'. A number of us investigators lately quietly have 'gotten the band back together' doing what we love best - investigations. I have been doing plenty already related to abduction cases. Most I now have started to work with - along with my local abduction investigations group of professional colleagues - are past Inception radio hosts it turns out. So we are all thinking the same way. So some quiet good changes going on behind the scenes with me - which all just reminds us politics is nothing, our friendships and relationships here is much more important. So I don't understand why anyone would consider wanting to leave this forum or feel they have to. Unless your name is U4Peace, JJFlash, or Malzan. Those groups these mentioned belong to would do so much better distancing themselves from them too. Those mentioned are unwelcome here. So don't worry about it Lorelei. Politicians by nature wish to draw attention to themselves. It is what they do, not what they say that matters. Lately I have not seen any politician doing anything to help anybody anywhere - so will our comments about them be any more meaningful? Politicians are the only pathetic creatures on this planet that are their own voyeurs of their own verbal masturbation. Prioritize. Compared to politicians for a very short list of something meaningful - watch ants instead. Steve
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Post by sansseed on Mar 25, 2012 7:57:37 GMT -6
So, Steve, are you saying you're not doing the radio show? If not, I understand your reasoning. Being on the radio talking about UFOs is kind of like preaching to the choir. Those that really need the help and answers are probably not listening to a radio show. Very rarely do I listen to those shows. Yes, they can be interesting, but they don't really forward my search for answers. Only here, in direct conversations with those that have experienced the strangeness like me, have I found some peace. Granted answers are few and far between, but at least we are all searching together.
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Post by Steve on Mar 25, 2012 8:31:27 GMT -6
Yes Sanseed.
About preaching to the choir, you bring up another good reason I forgot about not to be a host too. Thanks. All the people who seem to do these shows seem vain and egos the size of Connecticut. When you look at their work in Ufology - they maybe just 'One trick ponies'. They have little there to show for as far as investigations with experience over many years.
In one case, I even strongly question one host whether the experiences they described even occurred! Based on one other witness present they thought they could suppress a little white lie shared between them. The result for them might be who is fooling who then if that is the case. Why? It is just not where I am at. Thanks for understanding.
Getting some good information on abductions instead. Some very interesting situational dynamics occurring between experiencers and these visitors. Showing these visitors have their own relentless program they are conducting - regardless of how we maybe interpreting it to be. This aspect is nothing really new to us here.
Evidence that implants - and evidence of other still unknown to us methods for locating experiencers - are more than just tracking devices monitoring our mental 'telemetry'. They are essentially 'brands' too.
It seems to be emerging it is a very serious offence to abduct some other visiting species 'human experiment'. There are some species that borrow humans for a brief time, even form long contacts over a lifetime on a number of relationship levels. While other species disturbingly - some circumstantial evidence shows one species called the 'Nordics' maybe taking their abductees (in the dozens or in the hundreds) on one way trips. (Noahs ark or cattle train?)
In the midst of all this are the pathetic 'little grays' (not to be confused in the least with the apparently formidable 'tall grays') who seem to be the accessories in all these crimes carrying out the tasks regardless which species they seem to be working for.
Steve
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