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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2013 15:07:08 GMT -6
Okay this sounds strange but the side of my right jaw is sore- Never noticed it this morning when getting myself and the kids ready. I've just made myself some dinner (I never eat breakfast) and the back side of the bottom right hand side of my teeth are sore almost as if I've been clenching/grinding my teeth. I used the other side of my mouth to eat and now my right side is in pain. Has that happened to anyone else? The pain is reaching my right ear and slightly down my neck. That has happened to me before. A few months back, I awoke with the same issue, although mine was on my left side. It lasted for over a week and it bothered me enough to go see a doctor. They weren't sure and assumed that it was my teeth, but my teeth are fine. I have had regular check ups with my dentist. They gave me something for it, but it didn't help. It eventually went away on it's own.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2013 18:08:33 GMT -6
Me too. It always strikes me as odd because of when I notice it also. I generally have had neck problems that could affect my jaw, but I usually have neck pain first. The other day I had trouble opening my mouth around a big bite of a sandwich. Until that moment I didn't know, and even when I get in a massage chair I have (soon after) at home , I found that my spine and neck were all in line. I think sometimes my teeth hurt on one side because of sinus problems? I've had allergies and sinus problems most of my life (2 nose surgeries), so why do I notice the teeth pain just in the last few years? ********************************************************************************************************* Give yourself plenty of time and room to accept this phenomenon. I have "good" days, and days where I will totally deny that anything has happened/is happening to me . It's just so bizarre. I feel like we are "tipped off" to their presence in some very strange ways. I almost feel like someone/something else is paying attention, and wants us to become informed. I mean, I was hyper-alert at times, and had other true symptoms of PTSD at times, and have mild depression. Now I have some idea why . It does help me face some of my fears. The "abuse" I had as a child was emotional neglect. My parents tried to do the right things, but were never emotionally present for my sister, brother, and I. I was physically and emotionally available to "predators" at a young age . . . . oh, I just thought about the author Jim Maars. He was the first one I ever heard mention a type of portal that just opened up on his wall; I can't remember if he was awake or not, but he must have been because I think his wife saw it too? I have seen something similar start to swirl and kind of shoot out sparkles, in about a 6 inch area on my ceiling. I'm not paralyzed (that I know of) when this happens, but I do close my eyes. . . either open them and it's gone, or I fall asleep . On most things abnormal, I do tend to close my eyes and try to will it away. I have done this for as long as I can remember. Sometimes, ignoring "it" seems to work for me. Now I think that ignoring it is NOT the right thing to do. I hear a lot of noises. Scratchings, knocking, etc. You have some religious background, and I don't think it hurts to use it when you can. Like that prayer working from your grandma . If the noise I'm hearing goes away directly after I claim the protection of Jesus Christ over my life, no matter the cause of the noise, then why wouldn't I continue doing this? I agree with the idea that a lot of us seem to have a quality that in the past would either lean us towards being the village shaman, or get us burned at the stake . I want to say that 'spirits" are reaching out to us, there seems to be some difficulty, and "ET" knows about this in our lives and is trying to do something with it? I think that they are abducting a ton of more people than what are aware, and we become some sort of anomaly to them because we can sense their presence. Lets start from there. . . .
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Post by Innermind on Jun 15, 2013 1:29:00 GMT -6
Well this morning the pain has gone. I am barely awake (thank goodness for coffee). But last night I was scared again- what I hate the most is that feeling of 'something's going to happen'. Many times I've felt like this and sleep has been difficult to come by but then the next thing I know it's morning - when I'm not waking up at 1 or 5 in the morning. My cat generally sleeps on the end of my bed, but I've noticed that sometimes when I feel scared that something's going to happen she leaves the room and doesn't return (9 times out of 10) she'll be asleep on my bed when I wake up. jcurio I'm not religious per say and the bangs/knocks stuff moving doesn't happen everyday, it's like one week everything will happen at once and then all is quiet for a long while after. I have been told many times that I'm psychic and that I had spirits who were waiting to work for me but it's the fear that stops me. Too much fear in my life of all these anomalies. As for the portal - I don't think I've ever heard anyone speak about something like what I saw. You would have thought I'd have done some research about it but it has only occurred to me now. I know most abductees stories are very much the same - so I wonder what it was that I saw. I think the only reason I think it might have been ETS were the spindly arms - really long and appeared so fragile. I'm going to do some research on it this weekend and hopefully have some kind of answers.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2013 10:06:14 GMT -6
Innermind, I feel like I have read or heard about experiences similar to yours (the portal and spindley arms). Both Wishmythos and myself (and others) have talked about our initial reluctance to read up on this "visitation" subject, but now that I believe in myself more, I am most reassured that I am not alone. Religious. I'm confounded by that word. So many things can be followed religiously. In that terminology, I am not religiously attending church (right now) or reading my Bible. However, I pray all the time. First, for others as I see them struggle (asking for Heavenly help), and often for myself. At one time I can remember thinking that my new life as a working, single parent with 3 kids was not hard at all . At that time my children were 7 and 4 (twins) years old. This should speak volumes of my ability to "fantasize" (sarcasm) . I just have found that I do need help, it's not always something that can be provided by humans, and so I reach out to the unseen world around us. I think that "ET" does use technology. I had hoped that someone like our member Plutronus could come up with technology to help us. If you read through his posts, it is evident that he has also been "attacked", and is just as wary of them as the rest of us. It is apparent that we should come up with better technology, but they are ahead of us. It may always be so. However, in Earth's history there are times it appears that we were advanced to a certain degree (not necess. technology), and then the archaeology record shows a steady decline after that. Do humans get lazy? What would cause a perceivable change in obvious brain power, talent, or whatever? Since this can, and does happen to us, I believe "they" (ET) can be affected by the same processes. They are not "god(s)". They seem to have a lot of control over us, a less advanced specie, but that's all I give them. So, the issue, IMO, is our fear. Fear is supposed to be a good thing that serves to protect our bodies and our minds. In this case, dealing with something more powerful than ourselves, does the fear work for us? I am intrigued that people that talk about "real-time abductions" do things like never be alone. I don't know how to explain my intrigue, other than there seems to be different types of beings that are involved with our lives. I feel like much of my "involvement" is done in secret; like I have a whole 'nother life that I only get glimpses of. Could I have a multiple-type personality disorder? I don't think so, and have questioned this idea professionally. I think that our perception of time can be manipulated, and "they" do this. The concept of two days in their world (or dimension) is similar to 5 minutes of our day; something like that. Of course I don't know the ratio. But some are apt to call it "dreamtime", and that sounds about right, . I try (at times) to "play" with this idea, and whatever circumstances that allow it, I can't explain. Have you ever asked for more time, or for TIME to stop, because you knew you were going to be late getting somewhere, and it was imperative that you were on time? Or, asked for your minimal amount of gas in your tank to get you somewhere and back? Yeah, I consider this "playing", because being late, or running out of gas, is not something I want to trust someone else with. ! And mind you, when these things happen, in a good or bad way, I don't immediately think of the "control" ET seems to have on my life. But yet, I do think they have the technology to make this sort of thing happen, not just for me, but for anyone! And this is how I can perceive of a positive slant to their presence. It is akin to me seeing an ant carrying a grape towards his ant hill. I can see where he is taking the grape, I lift it off of him, and place it nearer his anthill. Number one, I have to be careful to not accidently hurt the ant by removing his load. That's my part. What does the ant do at this point. Does he see where I put his grape? Does he see me take it? Does he lose his balance from the sudden weight shift? Does another ant (nearer the anthill) pick up the grape and take it inside? You see what I mean, . On the very negative side, people have disappeared, or been found dead. There are reasons to believe that these are not natural occurrances. I believe that I am "immortal". When this body I have dies or whatever, my essence or soul goes on; that's what I mean by being "immortal". I don't think this is an uncommon belief, religion or no. A few years ago I would have hesitated to divulge my biggest fear. But it doesn't take a rocket-scientist to figure out that I don't want to experience physical pain. I don't want my children to either... Emotional pain isn't the best, but don't we feel like TIME can help with that? As for physical pain, TIME doesn't always seem to be a healer of that, . For some reason, I seem to have a high-tolerance for physical pain. Emotional pain; not so much, but I'm constantly working on it. And often times I find I am also gauging my emotional reaction on what I think may or may not be appropriate, to social standards; what a kicker! Anyway, I have spoken much to my kids in honesty, about this phenomenon and life in general, and they seem to be doing so much better emotionally than I ever have . I haven't done this work for them as they could have rejected anything I've said or done, by personality or by choice. I think the best we can do for ourselves and other humans is to express compassion. I can know in my heart that I have true compassion for my child, and yet angrily ground them for not coming inside when I said to; that sort of thing. I know that you know all this . There's just only so many ways that we can explain to others that yes, there may be a "monster" in your closet.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2013 10:21:43 GMT -6
Note: This past Monday, June 10, I saw a silver disk in the sky around 1:30 p.m. at my job. I had students and a co-worker around me, and I was very tempted to bring their attention to it. In fact, I started to say something, because one of the students paused near me and waited for me to continue what I was saying . I had sunglasses on that hide my eyes (thank goodness!). I had no "weird" feelings, and no aftereffects of any sort. I closed my eyes for one second, opened them again and it was gone. I looked at pictures on the internet and it looked like what could be considered a weather balloon. Oval shaped, no visible seams, shiny silver. More like a bubble than a saucer or "ship". I'm convinced it wasn't a weather balloon; if only how it appeared and disappeared . Again, no aftereffects, that I am aware of. And no pictures (sorry!). Was I less fearful because it was broad daylight and I was not alone? I had a feeling of "wonder" only. I went on with my day so easily. . .
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Post by Morgan Sierra on Jun 15, 2013 11:45:21 GMT -6
Hi Morgan, I must admit I have felt daft thinking something had happened to me. Purely because life as I knew it- well this doesn't happen. It's been great to speak about it instead of letting things 'bottle up'. I'm just reading a few books at the moment that are eye openers. It's nice to be part of a community that understands. As much as I love my friends and family, I know if I spoke to them about what I think has happened they would be booking me into the nearest mental hospital sharpish. Yet, if I mention the spirits and psychic things that have happened to me they would accept that. (Before the very vivid weird dream-I spoke to them about what I'd seen, felt and heard and they were interested and would listen. If I so much mention ETS- they would scoff). What has been your experience, if you don't mind me asking? Hi, innermind. My main abduction experience happened way back in 1988 when I was about 20 years old. It was a typical abduction with the bright light, paralysis and floating up in the air. I don't remember much about it but my best friend had the same experience the same night I had mine so I know it was real. There have been quite a few weird things happening since then as well. Some of my experiences can be found in these threads... theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/380/skywalkers-experiences-believetheedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/12/skywalkers-ufo-sightings...the rest are kind of scattered all over the forum. I have stuff spread out all over the place. I sometimes go by the name skywalker also but we're the same person.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2013 10:11:04 GMT -6
Welcome to TEOR Innermind. I'm glad you came here and you're able to talk about all of this. That is a great start. I know because it helped me also to let it all out among caring and understanding people. I sincerely hope you find the answers you seek. Cliff
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2013 11:55:19 GMT -6
Hi Morgan, I must admit I have felt daft thinking something had happened to me. Purely because life as I knew it- well this doesn't happen. It's been great to speak about it instead of letting things 'bottle up'. I'm just reading a few books at the moment that are eye openers. It's nice to be part of a community that understands. As much as I love my friends and family, I know if I spoke to them about what I think has happened they would be booking me into the nearest mental hospital sharpish. Yet, if I mention the spirits and psychic things that have happened to me they would accept that. (Before the very vivid weird dream-I spoke to them about what I'd seen, felt and heard and they were interested and would listen. If I so much mention ETS- they would scoff). What has been your experience, if you don't mind me asking? I'm curious to why you think your family and friends would scoff if you mention "ET". Could you not mention your thoughts on "ET", but yet tell them about your dream, and see how they would interpret it? I don't really have anyone (other than here) that I can talk to even about spirits and psychic things. If you have people open to that sort of conversation, maybe they will have some insight? (I do understand the basic idea that talking about and admitting one believes in "ET" is taking a risk. But some people have found that on casually opening up the subject, they know someone that has also had a weird (more than paranormal) experience. ) _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ I'm thinking a lot about you this weekend. I'm hoping that you will get on here and talk about the research you are doing, and tell me that it is helping with your fears . I already think you are a very brave lady to do that "haunting session" with friends at your work. I have blessed rooms or houses with friends, but no way would we try to contact anything.
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Post by Innermind on Jun 17, 2013 0:52:31 GMT -6
Hi everyone and thank you so much for telling me your stories. My family might be open to discussing psychic things but you mention ETS and they'll be calling the doctor. This weekend was really uneventful until last night. My children came home from their Dad's this weekend and we went to bed okay.
Then this morning my daughter came into my room - she had a high temperature and began to explain that she woke up in the early hours of the morning and I was sat on the end of her bed (she now says it wasn't me as she heard me downstairs- but this person looked like me). I was dressed in a black cloak and their were other taller people also dressed in cloaks and some had red glowing eyes and others had pure white eyes (no pupils were visible) she said they laughed and she hid in her bed and fell asleep. When she awoke again the figures were gone but she could still hear voices, she was very scared and this morning she's poorly.
My daughter isn't given to flights of fancy and she swore she wasn't dreaming, and the fact that she was so unsettled makes me frightened for her. I haven't questioned her too much as I don't want to put words into her mouth. What do I say/do?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2013 1:26:46 GMT -6
Wow that's scary... that poor girl! I've often had episodes like that of sleep paralysis where I hear voices while I'm paralyzed... often I can't understand what they are saying. One time I heard a male voice and a female voice arguing in a strange language... Your daughter may have suffered from sleep paralysis. It's a very scary phenomenon. If you want to settle her nerves you might give her that explanation... it may calm her frazzled nerves a bit.
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Post by Innermind on Jun 17, 2013 1:35:48 GMT -6
I've just explained to her that she was very poorly and that sometimes when you have a high temperature you can see things. But if it happens again I want to know about it. I don't know what else to do.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2013 6:28:03 GMT -6
I've just explained to her that she was very poorly and that sometimes when you have a high temperature you can see things. But if it happens again I want to know about it. I don't know what else to do. That sounds like a good answer, for now. I hope that she is reassured and is feeling better soon! (Poor child). You sound ok. I hope that you also get more of a "break" from any activity .
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Post by Innermind on Jun 18, 2013 4:55:13 GMT -6
I finally plucked up the courage to tell my mother what has been going on and she then told me strange things have happened to her for years. She told me something tried to drag her out of bed- she described it as looking like a monkey with a rhino's horn and she knew that if she let it take her she would 'be a goner' as she put it. She told me she couldn't wake up her partner when this happened - so she recited the Lord's prayer and it went away.
She then explained she often feels someone touching her- on her shoulder and back etc and then she told me I should move house. She never once laughed at me or called me crazy- I would love to move house bit it's just not financially possible at the moment. Also I've asked her to try and draw what she saw (she's a wonderful artist) and to write down all of what she can remember.
I feel great that I was able to speak to mum about it-but concerned that this 'whatever this is' is definitely connected with the family somehow.
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Post by skywalker on Jun 18, 2013 9:13:32 GMT -6
Weird experiences have a tendency to follow family lines from one generation to the next. Especially if the family has a history of psychic abilities. They seem to be attracted to that.
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Post by Innermind on Jun 18, 2013 9:18:00 GMT -6
Weird experiences have a tendency to follow family lines from one generation to the next. Especially if the family has a history of psychic abilities. They seem to be attracted to that. I take it that you and your family have gone through something similar? I'm glad I spoke to my mum about it, and I hope she will draw what she saw and hopefully write down other things that have happened to her that she can remember as it would be great to compare notes.
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Post by skywalker on Jun 18, 2013 9:31:05 GMT -6
My family has a history of psychic abilities on my dad's side that goes at least back to my great grandfather...probably further. I don't know if they have ever had any abduction experiences but I recently asked my dad about UFOs and aliens and was surprised to find out that he does believe in them. I never knew that until I asked. He's never said anything about the subject before.
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Post by Innermind on Jun 19, 2013 6:27:59 GMT -6
Well, another weird discovery this morning. My daughter showed me her belly button and it looks sore (no she hasn't had it pierced, she's only ten). She told me that it became like that after her 'illusions' as she calls it. I asked her why she hadn't said anything to me about it and she said she forgot. I've taken a picture and put some ointment on it, I am not freaking out - As it could be anything. I just wanted to mention it, as she has no idea how she did it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2013 7:06:26 GMT -6
Bummer. How long did she end up having the high fever?
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Post by Innermind on Jun 20, 2013 8:41:46 GMT -6
Bummer. How long did she end up having the high fever? It was roughly twenty four hours. She's much better now, and back at school.
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Post by skywalker on Jun 20, 2013 8:52:05 GMT -6
Hi everyone and thank you so much for telling me your stories. My family might be open to discussing psychic things but you mention ETS and they'll be calling the doctor. This weekend was really uneventful until last night. My children came home from their Dad's this weekend and we went to bed okay. Then this morning my daughter came into my room - she had a high temperature and began to explain that she woke up in the early hours of the morning and I was sat on the end of her bed (she now says it wasn't me as she heard me downstairs- but this person looked like me). I was dressed in a black cloak and their were other taller people also dressed in cloaks and some had red glowing eyes and others had pure white eyes (no pupils were visible) she said they laughed and she hid in her bed and fell asleep. When she awoke again the figures were gone but she could still hear voices, she was very scared and this morning she's poorly. My daughter isn't given to flights of fancy and she swore she wasn't dreaming, and the fact that she was so unsettled makes me frightened for her. I haven't questioned her too much as I don't want to put words into her mouth. What do I say/do? What makes her think she wasn't dreaming? A lucid dream can appear much more realistic than a normal dream. The fever might have also exaggerated the dream a little so that appeared even more unusual than it normally would have. I'm not saying that it was just a dream, it's just a possibility. Don't know how that would effect a belly button though.
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Post by Innermind on Jun 20, 2013 9:00:20 GMT -6
That's what I thought Skywalker. But she was adamant that it wasn't a dream, she began to get upset with me and she never does that. After she calmed down, she began to call it her illusion. As for they belly button - who knows but for now I'm just writing it up as one of those things. I think with everything that has happened I might be looking a bit too much into some stuff. So unless anything very strange happens (and I'm hoping it won't) I shall just take each day as it comes.
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Post by Innermind on Jun 20, 2013 9:06:47 GMT -6
Oh and she did mention that the woman she thought was me that was sat on the edge of her bed couldn't have been me, as she heard me tell off our cat whilst I was downstairs.
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Post by skywalker on Jun 20, 2013 9:34:47 GMT -6
That's what I thought Skywalker. But she was adamant that it wasn't a dream, she began to get upset with me and she never does that. After she calmed down, she began to call it her illusion. As for they belly button - who knows but for now I'm just writing it up as one of those things. I think with everything that has happened I might be looking a bit too much into some stuff. So unless anything very strange happens (and I'm hoping it won't) I shall just take each day as it comes. It's easy to get carried away with this stuff when you first realize it is happening. Some people get so paranoid they start seeing aliens everywhere...under their beds, in the backseat of their car, in the mailbox or the refrigerator... I was a really big skeptic about UFOs and psychic abilities and other weird stuff until it started happening to me on a regular basis...and even then I refused to believe it. It took me about 20 years before I finally allowed myself to accept that it was really happening. Now that I have accepted it I still have a tendency to be skeptical about things even though I know that a lot of it is true. That's just the way I automatically react to it. It probably keeps me from going totally nuts. You seem to be pretty well grounded about everything that is happening so I doubt that you will get too carried away. Just stay alert and keeping looking at the details and eventually you may see some patterns hidden behind everything else. Sooner or later we will start figuring this stuff out so that hopefully someday we will finally know what is really going on. Until then...like you said...we just have to take each day as it comes.
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Post by Innermind on Jun 20, 2013 12:46:01 GMT -6
That's what I thought Skywalker. But she was adamant that it wasn't a dream, she began to get upset with me and she never does that. After she calmed down, she began to call it her illusion. As for they belly button - who knows but for now I'm just writing it up as one of those things. I think with everything that has happened I might be looking a bit too much into some stuff. So unless anything very strange happens (and I'm hoping it won't) I shall just take each day as it comes. It's easy to get carried away with this stuff when you first realize it is happening. Some people get so paranoid they start seeing aliens everywhere...under their beds, in the backseat of their car, in the mailbox or the refrigerator... I was a really big skeptic about UFOs and psychic abilities and other weird stuff until it started happening to me on a regular basis...and even then I refused to believe it. It took me about 20 years before I finally allowed myself to accept that it was really happening. Now that I have accepted it I still have a tendency to be skeptical about things even though I know that a lot of it is true. That's just the way I automatically react to it. It probably keeps me from going totally nuts. You seem to be pretty well grounded about everything that is happening so I doubt that you will get too carried away. Just stay alert and keeping looking at the details and eventually you may see some patterns hidden behind everything else. Sooner or later we will start figuring this stuff out so that hopefully someday we will finally know what is really going on. Until then...like you said...we just have to take each day as it comes. Most definitely - and I like the way you're still sceptical about what's happening to you. I need to be more like that. Thank fully I have my diary that I can keep an eye on any patterns that may emerge. Thank you for listening to my rambles- it helps to keep me sane.
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Post by auntym on Jun 20, 2013 12:54:56 GMT -6
innermind... i love the your avatar... i love the muppets and ANIMAL is one of my favorites...
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Post by Innermind on Jun 20, 2013 13:04:18 GMT -6
innermind... i love the your avatar... i love the muppets and ANIMAL is one of my favorites... AuntyM you've made my day with that. I LOVE animal- he's been a fave of mine since I was a kid. Thank you
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Post by Innermind on Jun 30, 2013 4:00:01 GMT -6
Thanks to all you lovely lot, I made the decision to contact a local(ish)organisation that deals with abduction cases. The guy who responded has been very kind. I'll add the website if anyone is interested. I wish I knew how to post my pictures and such on here but I think once the guy has done the report they will be on the website. Thanks to the lovely people on here I no longer feel alone with these weird happenings and I hope to get to the bottom of it some day. bufognavigation.blogspot.co.ukBy the way the guy is interested to hear from people all over the world who have had encounters and he has a view reports already up on the website. It might be worth taking a look. If you do - please let me know what you guys think. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2013 0:49:10 GMT -6
I hope he's able to give you some answers Innermind.
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Post by sunbow on Jul 1, 2013 20:42:34 GMT -6
Welcome to TEOR Innermind.
I have been busy and not on here much recently, but I feel a connection to this group. Like others, it seemed to be in my family line and also to have been present in my childhood. I can't say I was abused that I can remember, but something always felt way wrong, so growing up was rough (I think many people have a version of this, but it was extreme). I also have always had a psychic nature, though in our society there are never presented words to deal with it or reason about it. I find the shamanic paradigm works well for me, though I am a reader and study everything I can find for answers, so I mix in whatever works.
One thing I have found, there is no running and hiding, these psychic elements in life are always present. The ETs (Many different species) and their various agendas have been manipulating humanity for ages. No person has the answers and indeed the answers, like life, may be to complex to summarize. The more people who come forward and discuss openly their experiences, the closer we will be to finding some of the many threads of ET motivation. The ET engagement of humanity - I believe - is one of the most important things for us to unravel. The other is the transformation of humanity from a barbaric waring destructive force to a civilized and loving society.
I have many opinions and like to philosophize, please question anything I say.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2013 17:21:02 GMT -6
As Charles Fort said "we are property".
Someday, maybe we will really know what this means. "Belonging to something or someone else" is kind of an odd idea. I don't have a way of comparing my life to a true life of "freedom". . . .I just would like to think that I am free
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