Dr. John Mack MD

[CitizenK]

Vanity Fair Magazine article;

If you’re abducted by alien beings, are you physically absent?

This happens to be an important issue for the media-shy people gathered one afternoon last July on the porch of Anne Ramsey Cuvelier’s blue Victorian inn on Narragansett Bay, in Rhode Island, once called “the most elegantly finished house ever built in Newport.” Co-designed in 1869 by a cousin of Ralph Waldo Emerson’s, it has been in Cuvelier’s family since 1895, when her great-grandfather bought it as a summer getaway from his winter home blocks away, just as the Gilded Age cottages of the Vanderbilts and Astors began springing up across the island, redefining palatial extravagance. Still imposing with its butternut woodwork, ebony trimmings, and four-story paneled atrium frescoed in the Pompeian style, the harborside mansion turned B&B seemed a fittingly baroque setting for the group of reluctant guests Cuvelier describes as “not a club anyone wants to belong to.”

She had gathered them to compare experiences as, well, “experiencers,” a term they prefer to “abductees,” and to socialize free of stigma among peers. Cuvelier, an elegant and garrulous woman in her 70s, isn’t one of them. But she remembers as a teen in the 1940s hearing her father, Rear Admiral Donald James Ramsey, a World War II hero, muttering about strange flying craft that hovered and streaked off at unimaginable speed, and she’s been an avid ufologist ever since. “I want to get information out so these people don’t have to suffer,” she says. “Nobody believes you. You go through these frightening experiences, and then you go through the ridicule.”

So, for a week each summer for almost two decades, she’s been turning away paying guests at her family’s Sanford-Covell Villa Marina, on the cobblestoned waterfront in Newport, to host these intimate gatherings of seemingly ordinary folk with extraordinary stories, along with the occasional sympathetic medical professional and scientist and other brave or foolhardy souls not afraid to be labeled nuts for indulging a fascination with the mystery. I had been invited as a journalist with a special interest who has been talking to some of them for several years.

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Top, Betty and Barney Hill pose with John G. Fuller’s book The Interrupted Journey, which chronicles the 1961 abduction that the two say they experienced. Above, a plaque in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, commemorating the Hills’ experience as “the first widely-reported UFO abduction report in the United States.”

Perched on a wicker settee was Linda Cortile, a mythic figure in the canons of abduction literature, whom I’d come to know by her real name, Linda Napolitano. A stylish young grandmother in a green T-shirt, black shorts, and a charcoal baseball cap, she had agreed to meet me months before at Manhattan’s South Street Seaport to point at her 12th-floor window overlooking the Brooklyn Bridge, where, she says, one night in 1989 three small beings levitated her “like an angel” into a hovering craft in view of horrified witnesses, including, it was said, a mysterious world figure who might have been abducted with her. “If I was hallucinating,” she told me, “then the witnesses saw my hallucination. That sounds crazier than the whole abduction phenomenon.”

The short-haired Florida woman in white capris and a fuchsia flowered blouse was, like Cuvelier, not herself an abductee but the niece of two and the co-author of a book on the first widely publicized and most famous abduction case of all. Kathleen Marden, the director of abduction research for the Mutual UFO Network, or MUFON, one of the oldest and largest U.F.O.-investigating groups, was 13 in 1961, when her aunt and uncle Betty and Barney Hill returned from a trip through the White Mountains of New Hampshire with the stupefying tale of having been chased by a giant flying disc that hovered over the treetops. They said they had stopped for a look with binoculars, spotted humanoid figures in the craft and, overcome with terror, sped away with their car suddenly enveloped in buzzing vibrations. They reached home inexplicably hours late and afterward recovered memories of having been taken into the ship and subjected to frightening medical probes. Their car showed some peculiar markings, and Betty’s dress had been ripped, the zipper torn. She remembered that the aliens had fumbled with her zipper before disrobing her for a pregnancy test with a needle in her navel. I was surprised to hear from Marden (but confirmed it) that the garment is preserved at the University of New Hampshire, in Durham.

Also present was Barbara Lamb, a tanned and gold-coiffed psychotherapist and family counselor from Claremont, California, who studies crop circles, the enigmatic patterns left in fields, often in England, and practices regression therapy, treating personality disorders by taking people back to previous lives. She told me what she remembered happened to her about seven years earlier: “I was walking through my home and there was standing this reptilian being. It was three in the afternoon. I was alert and awake. I was startled somebody was there.” Ordinarily, Lamb said, she is repulsed by snakes and lizards, “but he was radiating such a nice feeling. I went right over and had my hand out. He was taller than I, this close to me”—she held her hands a foot apart—“with yellow reptile eyes. Then he was suddenly gone.” She said she had recalled more of the encounter when a colleague put her through hypnotic regression. “He said telepathically, ‘Ha, Barbara, good, good. Now you know that we are actually real. We do exist and have contacts with certain people.’”

Chatting with this group were two astrophysicists from a leading institution and the director of the Harvard-affiliated McLean Hospital Southeast. I was intrigued by these eminent outsiders, who may have been risking their careers.

But I was interested most of all in the dead man who remained an icon to many on the porch. John Edward Mack, a Pulitzer Prize–winning biographer and Harvard Medical School psychiatrist, spent years trying to fathom their stories and reached an astonishing conclusion: they were telling the truth. That is, they were not insane or deluded; in some unknown space/time dimension, something real had actually happened to them—not that Mack could explain just what or how. But weeks after attending the 2004 Newport gathering, days before his 75th birthday, he looked the wrong way down a London street and stepped in front of a drunk driver.

Aside from those of his circle and university colleagues, Mack is scarcely known today. But 20 years ago, when he burst onto the scene as the Harvard professor who believed in alien abduction, he was probably the most famous, or infamous, academic in America, “the most important scientist ever to dare to admit the truth about the abduction phenomenon,” in the words of Whitley Strieber, whose best-selling memoir, Communion, introduced millions of Americans to alien encounters.

To continue reading click here
www.vanityfair.com/culture/2013/05/americans-alien-abduction-science

[skywalker]

That is a good article...so far. I haven't finished reading it yet but it the first half is pretty good. It gives a lot of good information about Mack and his work on alien abduction. Can't believe that a magazine like Vanity Fair would actually take the subject seriously.

[CitizenK]

I know , me either. I guess they are doing it due to the movie coming out and his credentials are so great... anyway, I'm impressed, to say the least!

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;D

[lois]

May 16, 2013 23:02:01 GMT -6 skywalker said:

That is a good article...so far. I haven't finished reading it yet but it the first half is pretty good. It gives a lot of good information about Mack and his work on alien abduction. Can't believe that a magazine like Vanity Fair would actually take the subject seriously.

UFO topics keep spreading. That is way it was intended to happen.. When I seen Disney do a show on ufos a couple of months ago I thought to myself . "Wow! a lot more people who are not interested in the least with ufos may be watching it..

[paulette]

How I would love to gather with you all here on some porch and talk face to face about our experiences! Anyone coming to BC Canada anytime soon? I would happily gather (if it worked schedule wise with prior commitments). Talk all night if we wanted to! Walk and talk.

[skywalker]

That would be pretty cool, Paulette. Maybe we should all have a little get together one of these years. We could roast marshmallows and look for UFOs.

[CitizenK]

I'm not going to BC anytime soon, but my sister in law just moved back there! I would like to have a get together sometime too. I think it make for a lot of fun and interesting conversations. (and I likes me marsh mellows flam'in Sky lol)

[CitizenK]

Thanks for moving this to it's proper spot , Aunty M!

[auntym]

Experiencers - John Mack




Published on Aug 17, 2012

A documentary by Stephane Allix about Alien Abductions featuring research from John E. Mack Harvard Psychologist.

www.greystarpi.org



John Mack: Human Encounters with Aliens (excerpt) [/color]



John Mack: Human Encounters with Aliens (excerpt) -- A Thinking Allowed DVD w/ Je

Uploaded on Aug 28, 2010

NOTE: This is an excerpt from the two-part, 60-minute DVD.
www.thinkingallowed.com/2jmack...

Psychiatrist John Mack discusses clinical case histories involving memories of alien encounters. He suggests that these cases transcend dualistic categories, such as reality/fantasy, physical/mental, true/false. He argues that UFO abductions differ from past-life memories, near-death experiences and satanic ritual abuse because of the presence of corroborating physical evidence.

John Mack, M.D., professor of psychiatry at Harvard, received a Pulitzer Prize for his biography of T. E. Lawrence and is author of Abduction: Human Encounters with Aliens.

[auntym]

Dr. John E. Mack - Close Encounter UFO landing 2 Beings seen by 62 School Children

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May 17, 2013 9:06:17 GMT -6 paulette said:

How I would love to gather with you all here on some porch and talk face to face about our experiences! Anyone coming to BC Canada anytime soon? I would happily gather (if it worked schedule wise with prior commitments). Talk all night if we wanted to! Walk and talk.

That would actually be pretty cool to do, paulette. If that was to happen, there would be no doubt that there would be a sighting in the vicinity.

[auntym]

aeon.co/magazine/altered-states/wasnt-i-special-enough-to-be-abducted-by-aliens/

WASN'T I SPECIAL ENOUGH TO BE ABDUCTED BY ALIENS?

John Mack was a Harvard scientist who took extra-terrestrial abduction seriously. Is he the reason I like misfits?

by Alexa Clay
Published on 17 January 2014

My younger brother and I called him ‘the old lizard’ (on account of his reptilian resemblance — and to irk our mother, his partner at the time). To his enemies, he was a crackpot, fraud, and a cheat. And to his patients, and many of his friends, he was a source of support, an open listener, a sage and protector.


The late John E. Mack – a Harvard psychiatrist who put his professional reputation on the line. Photo © John E Mack Archives LLC. Courtesy of Mack family


Dr John E Mack was many things to many people. A Harvard-trained psychiatrist, tenured professor, and one of the founders of the Cambridge Hospital Department of Psychiatry (a teaching hospital affiliated with Harvard University), John held an impressive command and was respected in his field. After an early career spent working on issues of child development and identity formation, he won the Pulitzer Prize in 1977 for his psychoanalytic biography of Lawrence of Arabia, entitled A Prince of Our Disorder (1976). Then, in the late 1980s, John put his reputation on the line when he started investigating the phenomenon of alien abduction.

It all started innocently enough. He began holding sessions with patients or ‘experiencers’ (as they’re called) who believed they’d been abducted. He ran hypnotic regressions from our home, and he gradually came to furnish enough evidence for a book, Abduction: Human Encounters with Aliens (1994). This was followed in 1999 by Passport to the Cosmos: Human Transformation and Alien Encounters. His standard line with the outside world was (as given to the BBC): ‘I would never say, yes, there are aliens taking people. [But] I would say there is a compelling powerful phenomenon here that I can’t account for in any other way, that’s mysterious… I can’t know what it is but it seems to me that it invites a deeper, further inquiry.’

In the privacy of our home, where he was a regular presence, John was bolder in his claims. Aliens were real — it was just that their existence threatened the dominant logic of our worldview. John attributed society’s failure to account for the abduction experience as a cultural failing. Alien abductees weren’t deranged or mentally ill — we just didn’t have a way of interpreting and understanding what they’d been through. Rather than label these peoples’ experiences as a new disorder or syndrome, John argued that we had to probe into and change our perception of reality to account for this phenomena. The subtext: we had to allow for the existence of aliens.

For more than a decade, from the time I was eight until I was of legal age, I was witness to these debates and to the politics surrounding John’s ‘coming out’ in support of abduction phenomena. My mother, an anthropologist by training, was John’s primary research assistant. They bought a house together in Cambridge, Massachusetts and my brother and I visited them once a month and during school holidays. The rest of the time we lived with my father and stepmother in Arlington, Virginia.

Like many of his colleagues, I viewed John with a mixture of scepticism and intrigue. Part of my scepticism can be put down to the fact that he was dating my mom; but a good fraction of it owed to my sense of reality being overturned by the postulation of ‘greys’ — a particular manifestation of extraterrestrials, known for their large heads, huge almond eyes, and shortened, pretty much featureless bodies.

At eight, and still learning to distinguish between fantasy and reality, the imposition of adults who believed in aliens was confusing and anxiety-provoking, but adventurous and thrilling too. I was fairly sure that Santa Claus wasn't real. But I wouldn’t have bet my life on it. My stuffed animals and toys had only just lost that animistic quality — becoming mere playthings, instruments of the imagination, as opposed to real creatures with essences all their own. As for aliens, I couldn’t be sure. Flying on airplanes between my parents’ houses I'd sometimes be on the lookout for a hovering metallic orb.

It was 1992 when John entered our lives. Bill Clinton was president, and Kurt Cobain dominated the airwaves. It was the end of the Cold War stand-off, and the political scientist Francis Fukuyama had just published his book The End of History and the Last Man, where he wishfully predicted that human evolution had come to an end with the triumph of Western liberal democracy. Everything was smooth sailing. We no longer had the threat of communists, but we didn’t yet have the threat of terrorists. In need of a symbolic enemy, aliens personified an important ‘other’ — a dystopian warning to our Western culture’s all too eager triumphalism.

On television, the paranormal soon paraded around on shows such as Roswell and The X-Files, which explored extraterrestrial phenomena in the shadow of government cover-ups and conspiracy. Flip channels and you might have caught Arthur C Clarke’s equally other-worldly 26-part series Mysterious Universe . It’s no wonder that the 1990s saw a rush of alien appearances in the popular imagination. The impending millennium brought with it the arrival of a future that had always been distant. As the political scientist Jodi Dean, author of Aliens in America (1998), articulated at the time, the appearance of aliens corresponds to our ‘anxieties over technological development and our growing consciousness of ourselves as a planet and our fears for the future at the millennium’.

There is some truth here. When I asked my mom and John growing up what the aliens intended (subtext: ‘Do they come in peace or should I be really scared?’), they said that many experience’s felt that aliens communicated an environmental message about the urgency of saving the planet.

At the same time, many of the abductees that John interviewed attested to the technological superiority of the alien race. I was told stories about patients who experienced aliens that could pass through walls, were able to communicate with extrasensory perception (ESP) and mind-reading, and perform medical experiments on humans without invasive surgery. In this light, aliens provided an outlet for all our fears of technological domination. To have an experience of aliens was to realise that the human race might not represent the pinnacle of evolution, that we were perhaps inferior to extraterrestrial life.

In daylight, I was sceptical (the good little rationalist), but night-time brought with it a tide of magical thinking

But as a kid largely igannant of grander sociological forces, aliens were only one thing: scary. They had large black eyes and androgynous forms. And they were real — like ghosts and witches and monsters. In daylight, I was sceptical (the good little rationalist), but night-time brought with it a tide of magical thinking. I used to lie in bed and worry that maybe I would be abducted. I would even make supplicating promises of better behaviour in the hope of bartering with these outsiders — ‘I’ll be good, just leave me alone.’ In my secular progressive household, aliens offered a moral disciplining authority, an invisible spectator to police my actions.

After many years elapsed without any sign of extraterrestrial visitation, I began to feel ignored. My fears turned to pangs of dejection: ‘Wasn’t I special?’ ‘Shouldn’t I be a chosen ambassador for the human race?’ Or even: ‘If the aliens were really out to create a master race (as I overheard), didn’t they want my DNA?’

CONTINUE READING: aeon.co/magazine/altered-states/wasnt-i-special-enough-to-be-abducted-by-aliens/

[auntym]

www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/05/15/mack-life-and-maybe-film/TDDL66TMSHZTFOwmsoXT5K/story.html

Mack the life, and maybe a film

By Alex Beam
May 15, 2014

John Mack is back.

Dr. Mack, a decorated Harvard Medical School psychiatrist and winner of the Pulitzer Prize for his brilliant and controversial biography of T.E. Lawrence, suffered a silly and ignominious end: While visiting London in 2004, he stepped off a curb, checking for traffic over his left shoulder. A speeding driver struck him from the right, killing Mack more or less instantly.


Harvard professor Dr. John Mack died in 2004.


At the time he was at the apogee of his fame, or the absolute nadir of his self-abasement, depending on whom you talked to.

Mack had achieved notoriety by investigating “experiencers,” men and women who claimed they had been abducted by aliens traveling to earth on spaceships. “These people are not lying, and they are not crazy,” he declared. Mack wrote a best-selling book, “Abduction,” appeared on “Oprah,” and became the target of a secret Harvard Medical School investigation into his activities.

Now Hollywood filmmaker Denise David Williams wants to make a feature film about Mack, using materials that his family has so far kept hidden from view: an unpublished manuscript about the Harvard investigation; a full transcript of the secret inquiry; and Mack’s complete archive of interviews with purported abductees.

Williams spent over a year partnered with Robert Redford’s Wildwood Productions, but left, she says, “when the direction they wanted to go veered too far from [my] vision of the film.” Now she’s trying to raise $1 million by crowd-sourcing on the Internet, a long shot, but not an impossible task. The recent “Veronica Mars” movie siphoned up $5.7 million in 30 days.

Mack is hard to parse. I met him a few times and, like many psychiatrists, he had an almost hypnotic ability to bend you to his will. I never took much stock in his abductees’ tales. To me, the experiencers seemed like serial hallucinators, or people battling with mental illness. That’s pretty much what the world thought, too.

Mack thought otherwise, and he radiated an infectious curiosity about the world that was hard to resist. Harvard’s hysterical overreaction to his work made for great copy, and was a permanent blot on the university’s reputation. Mack quickly learned who his friends were, as colleagues trooped before Dr. Arnold Relman’s ad hoc committee to denigrate him.

CONTINUE READING: www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/05/15/mack-life-and-maybe-film/TDDL66TMSHZTFOwmsoXT5K/story.html

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Serial hallucinaters. Ouch. Well the damnable part of that is that it's something that does have to be among the things considered IF you're being honest with yourself. I know what my mind is telling me about the day my friend and I had our little experience. But do I know for any fact that my brain has the right of it and not some account it dreamed up to try and make sense of something I could never begin to fathom? I'm sure to some extent that it's done that. To protect itself. If we run into experiences it doesn't have reference for...terrifying things that are un-identifiable...I already know it would make some odd leaps to explain and define. Brains do that with molestation, rape, kidnappings and other events that are horrific. Since my friend never has come out of her 'memory loss' I can't even compare notes with her...how do I know exactly what happened? I can understand her not remembering the whole alien/pain/embarrassment thing...oh heck yes..but what I can't understand is the rest of the day forgotten. It was a stand out from any other day we went riding. We found a note in a cabin that spoke of the FBI being after someone (the inhabitants of the cabin I'd guess) and after the incident we were chased across a field by men in a black sedan hollering and yelling at us. She was sitting on my little firecracker of a horse and I was on her calm well behaved one. She was terrified of my horse. When I mentioned her riding him she laughed and said 'like I'd ever ride him'. So that in itself tells me her brain decided to erase the entire day as being too whacked out to accept. Hallucination? Ok I checked that out with my brain and it says uh uh. I had a burn on my neck and bruises and marks that I don't think an hallucination can explain. My memories when they hit are too surreal. I think I'd make up monsters I am familiar with...and not the sensations they provided me with. Don't think so.

[paulette]

The fact that the two of you were on each other's horse (and didn't remember how that happened) is strong anecdotal proof to me. I buy it.

[auntym]

John Mack Movie





John Mack Movie


Published on May 8, 2014

Go to JohnMackMovie.com to help raise development funds for the JOHN MACK movie!

The feature film JOHN MACK is based on the true-life story of the Harvard Psychiatry professor and Pulitzer prize-winning author, John Mack, whose world was shattered when his study of people who claimed to be abducted by aliens led him to a shocking conclusion -- they were not lying and they were not crazy. His assertion made worldwide headlines and resulted in an embarrassed Harvard launching a secret inquiry in an attempt to discredit him and strip him of his reputation and his tenure -- a first in the university's history.

We believe Dr. Mack's story is of great value to the world -- as entertainment and more.

Visit the campaign at:
JohnMackMovie.com

[auntym]

silverscreensaucers.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/john-mack-movie-will-shift-collective.html

29 May 2014

'John Mack' movie will "shift the collective perspective" on abduction phenomenon says producer

By Robbie Graham/ Silver Screen Saucers

I chatted recently with producer Denise David Williams about her ongoing efforts to bring to the big screen the extraordinary life and work of the late Dr John Mack. A Pulitzer-Prize-winning author and Harvard psychiatrist, Mack controversially devoted the later years of his life to the study of the abduction phenomenon and made great strides toward bringing the abduction debate out of the murk of the UFO subculture and into the light of popular engagement.

After attending USC Graduate School in Film, Denise David Williams began work in the film industry at LucasFilm as an assistant in pre-production on E.T. and Raiders of the Lost Ark, and went on to work as a Production Executive at several major companies including 20th Century Fox, AIP and IndieProd where she was responsible for acquiring and developing material for major motion pictures. She was Vice President of Kopelson Entertainment when the company produced Platoon – which won the Academy Award for Best Picture.

Now, Williams is working to raise funds for the development of a screenplay inspired by John Mack and his abduction research. If you’d like to contribute to this development, you can do so by making a donation at JohnMackMovie.com. Williams’ decision to raise initial funds at a grassroots level was made after 14-month partnership with prospective producer Robert Redford ended with the star demanding 100% creative control of the project – something Williams was unwilling to grant. “That is not an option,” she told Redford.



It was clear from our conversation that Williams has a bold vision for John Mack the movie, and it’s not a vision that conforms to genre expectations. “I don’t see this as a sci-fi project; I see this as a very authentic story along the lines of A Beautiful Mind meets The Insider, maybe structured along the lines of The Social Network... and that requires a writer who can write great characters and emotion and conflict.

This is film is unique, and it would take the “alien” dialogue to a whole new level... it would give the subject authenticity because of who John Mack was, because of his credentials, because of the sincerity of his work and because of the ridicule he endured. It really has the potential to strike-up a dialogue about the fact that we’re not alone in the universe in a way that is not intended to instil fear.”








CONTINUE READING: silverscreensaucers.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/john-mack-movie-will-shift-collective.html

[auntym]

inceptionradionetwork.com/denise-williams-l-a-marzulli/





Denise Williams & L.A. Marzulli

California MUFON Radio Gets an Exclusive on the Making of Alien Themed ‘John Mack’ Movie from Producer Denise D. Williams, part Deux.

Then on Wednesday, May 14th, 2014 at 11 pm EDT, the genial prolocutor and voice of California MUFON Radio, Lorien Fenton gets a behind the scenes look into the research for the movie of Dr. John Mack’s life from producer Denise Williams. Then later in the show, Lorien evaluates the compelling evidence of century old giants with elongated skulls with archeologist L.A. Marzulli.

DENISE D. WILLIAMS earned a B.A. in Theatre Arts from Hofstra University. Ms.Williams began her career as an actor’s agent in New York City. Shortly after, she moved to Los Angeles and attended the Graduate Peter Stark Producing Program at USC. Ms. Williams then began her production experience in the film industry at LucasFilm as an assistant in pre-production on E.T. and Raiders of the Lost Ark. Denise advanced to story analyst for Barry Krost at The Movie Company where she was responsible for developing television material for management clients and held production responsibilities on American Dreamer. Ms. Williams then worked as Director of Creative Affairs for Arkoff International Pictures where she acquired and developed feature material for both Samuel Z. Arkoff and Louis Arkoff and had extensive production responsibilities on the feature film Up the Creek. Denise was then hired by Daniel Melnick’s IndieProd Co. at 20th Century Fox as story editor where she worked with writers and directors including Robert Zemeckis, Buck Henry and Lawrence Kasdan and on feature films Making Love and Unfaithfully Yours. Among some of the other films produced by The IndieProd Co. were: All That Jazz, That’s Entertainment, Altered States, Roxanne, and First Family…

Tune in this Wednesday at 11 pm eastern to delve into the life of a credible Alien researcher, right here on the Inception Radio Network.

TO LISTEN TONIGHT AT 11:00 CLICK ON LINK:
inceptionradionetwork.com/denise-williams-l-a-marzulli/

[auntym]

Experiencers - John Mack

Published on Aug 17, 2012

A documentary by Stephane Allix about Alien Abductions featuring research from John E. Mack Harvard Psychologist.

www.greystarpi.org

[auntym]

Rare John Mack Television appearance on The Oprah Winfrey Show.

Published on Jul 28, 2014

John Mack, MD, was a professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and founding director of the program for Extraordinary Experience Research (PEER).

In this Rare Television footage, Dr Mack is joined by some of his patients to discuss Alien Abduction with Oprah Winfrey and her audience.

[jcurio]

Ok. I'm only 14 minutes in. And I have to take a break. They just POURED a ton of information IN that 14 minutes. (One reason why Opray got so popular I guess - getting right to the "heart of the matter"; all kinds of subjects). The "experienced" is calm and relaxed. Ready to talk about this (testimony for John Mack' s success at being a Dr.) in front of people. John Mack, however, appears to me as intense and stressed. Veins standing out on his neck? Not in a bad way. It's like " let's take this seriously".

Oprah is a mixture of (slightly) rolling eyes, playing that to the audience, but yet serious in her questioning.

Me, I'm suddenly sitting very stiffly. You'd think this wouldn't bother me by now....

The show plays a part of the guys hypnosis session. You hear the patient being (sounding) emotionally terrified. You hear John Macks soft voice on top of the patients, saying the word "terrified" a couple of times. Definitely NOT leading the patient.

[jcurio]

Having trouble sleeping tonight. ??

Came back to this thread and watched until the last 6 or so minutes ( when the debunking phd comes in). He started talking about false memories ... now I see that Aunty has posted a second episode of this show....

[auntym]

alien-ufo-sightings.com/2015/11/alien-nation-have-humans-been-abducted-by-extraterrestrials/

Alien Nation: Have Humans Been Abducted by Extraterrestrials?

A prestigious Harvard psychiatrist, John Edward Mack, thought so. His sudden death leaves behind many mysteries.

by Ralph Blumenthal / www.vanityfair.com/contributor/ralph-blumenthal

May 10, 2013




Above Image: Anne Ramsey Cuvelier’s Victorian mansion in Newport, Rhode Island, where, once a year, alien experiencers gather and exchange stories. Inset, John Edward Mack at Harvard University, where he earned his medical degree in 1955., Courtesy of Anne Ramsey Cuvelier (house), courtesy of JPL-Caltech/UCLA/NASA (cosmos), courtesy of the family of John E. Mack (Mack).


A prestigious Harvard psychiatrist, John Edward Mack, thought so. His sudden death leaves behind many mysteries.

if you’re abducted by alien beings, are you physically absent?

This happens to be an important issue for the media-shy people gathered one afternoon last July on the porch of Anne Ramsey Cuvelier’s blue Victorian inn on Narragansett Bay, in Rhode Island, once called “the most elegantly finished house ever built in Newport.” Co-designed in 1869 by a cousin of Ralph Waldo Emerson’s, it has been in Cuvelier’s family since 1895, when her great-grandfather bought it as a summer getaway from his winter home blocks away, just as the Gilded Age cottages of the Vanderbilts and Astors began springing up across the island, redefining palatial extravagance. Still imposing with its butternut woodwork, ebony trimmings, and four-story paneled atrium frescoed in the Pompeian style, the harborside mansion turned B&B seemed a fittingly baroque setting for the group of reluctant guests Cuvelier describes as “not a club anyone wants to belong to.”

She had gathered them to compare experiences as, well, “experiencers,” a term they prefer to “abductees,” and to socialize free of stigma among peers. Cuvelier, an elegant and garrulous woman in her 70s, isn’t one of them. But she remembers as a teen in the 1940s hearing her father, Rear Admiral Donald James Ramsey, a World War II hero, muttering about strange flying craft that hovered and streaked off at unimaginable speed, and she’s been an avid ufologist ever since. “I want to get information out so these people don’t have to suffer,” she says. “Nobody believes you. You go through these frightening experiences, and then you go through the ridicule.”

So, for a week each summer for almost two decades, she’s been turning away paying guests at her family’s Sanford-Covell Villa Marina, on the cobblestoned waterfront in Newport, to host these intimate gatherings of seemingly ordinary folk with extraordinary stories, along with the occasional sympathetic medical professional and scientist and other brave or foolhardy souls not afraid to be labeled nuts for indulging a fascination with the mystery. I had been invited as a journalist with a special interest who has been talking to some of them for several years.

Perched on a wicker settee was Linda Cortile, a mythic figure in the canons of abduction literature, whom I’d come to know by her real name, Linda Napolitano. A stylish young grandmother in a green T-shirt, black shorts, and a charcoal baseball cap, she had agreed to meet me months before at Manhattan’s South Street Seaport to point at her 12th-floor window overlooking the Brooklyn Bridge, where, she says, one night in 1989 three small beings levitated her “like an angel” into a hovering craft in view of horrified witnesses, including, it was said, a mysterious world figure who might have been abducted with her. “If I was hallucinating,” she told me, “then the witnesses saw my hallucination. That sounds crazier than the whole abduction phenomenon.”

The short-haired Florida woman in white capris and a fuchsia flowered blouse was, like Cuvelier, not herself an abductee but the niece of two and the co-author of a book on the first widely publicized and most famous abduction case of all. Kathleen Marden, the director of abduction research for the Mutual UFO Network, or MUFON, one of the oldest and largest U.F.O.-investigating groups, was 13 in 1961, when her aunt and uncle Betty and Barney Hill returned from a trip through the White Mountains of New Hampshire with the stupefying tale of having been chased by a giant flying disc that hovered over the treetops. They said they had stopped for a look with binoculars, spotted humanoid figures in the craft and, overcome with terror, sped away with their car suddenly enveloped in buzzing vibrations. They reached home inexplicably hours late and afterward recovered memories of having been taken into the ship and subjected to frightening medical probes. Their car showed some peculiar markings, and Betty’s dress had been ripped, the zipper torn. She remembered that the aliens had fumbled with her zipper before disrobing her for a pregnancy test with a needle in her navel. I was surprised to hear from Marden (but confirmed it) that the garment is preserved at the University of New Hampshire, in Durham.

Also present was Barbara Lamb, a tanned and gold-coiffed psychotherapist and family counselor from Claremont, California, who studies crop circles, the enigmatic patterns left in fields, often in England, and practices regression therapy, treating personality disorders by taking people back to previous lives. She told me what she remembered happened to her about seven years earlier: “I was walking through my home and there was standing this reptilian being. It was three in the afternoon. I was alert and awake. I was startled somebody was there.” Ordinarily, Lamb said, she is repulsed by snakes and lizards, “but he was radiating such a nice feeling. I went right over and had my hand out. He was taller than I, this close to me”—she held her hands a foot apart—“with yellow reptile eyes. Then he was suddenly gone.” She said she had recalled more of the encounter when a colleague put her through hypnotic regression. “He said telepathically, ‘Ha, Barbara, good, good. Now you know that we are actually real. We do exist and have contacts with certain people.’”

Chatting with this group were two astrophysicists from a leading institution and the director of the Harvard-affiliated McLean Hospital Southeast. I was intrigued by these eminent outsiders, who may have been risking their careers.

But I was interested most of all in the dead man who remained an icon to many on the porch. John Edward Mack, a Pulitzer Prize–winning biographer and Harvard Medical School psychiatrist, spent years trying to fathom their stories and reached an astonishing conclusion: they were telling the truth. That is, they were not insane or deluded; in some unknown space/time dimension, something real had actually happened to them—not that Mack could explain just what or how. But weeks after attending the 2004 Newport gathering, days before his 75th birthday, he looked the wrong way down a London street and stepped in front of a drunk driver.

Aside from those of his circle and university colleagues, Mack is scarcely known today. But 20 years ago, when he burst onto the scene as the Harvard professor who believed in alien abduction, he was probably the most famous, or infamous, academic in America, “the most important scientist ever to dare to admit the truth about the abduction phenomenon,” in the words of Whitley Strieber, whose best-selling memoir, Communion, introduced millions of Americans to alien encounters.

Tall, impulsive, and magnetic to women and men, Mack was everywhere, or so it seemed—on OprahandNova; on the best-seller lists; in The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, and Time; at his Laurance S. Rockefeller–supported Program for Extraordinary Experience Research; in scholarly journals, documentaries, poems, theater pieces, and Roz Chast cartoons. And then suddenly he was under investigation at Harvard, the target of a grueling inquisition. “I didn’t think people would believe me,” Mack had confided to his longtime assistant, Leslie Hansen, who was in Newport last July. “But I didn’t think they’d get so mad.” In the end he achieved a measure of vindication, but his freakish demise denied him a final reckoning in an unpublished manuscript he saw as his cri de coeur against scientific materialism and “ontological fascism.”

CONTINUE READING: www.vanityfair.com/culture/2013/05/americans-alien-abduction-science

MORE INFO: makemagicproductions.com/

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Auntym posted this Oprah video in 2011, 2014, and again in January of this year. I think it is an important piece of the ET puzzle. I just noticed that Patty Donahue recently posted it again on Facebook.....

It is such a shame that Mack was killed by a drunk driver in 2004!


In this Rare Television footage, Dr Mack is joined by some of his patients to discuss Alien Abduction with Oprah Winfrey and her audience.

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I didn’t think people would believe me,” Mack had confided to his longtime assistant, Leslie Hansen, who was in Newport last July. “But I didn’t think they’d get so mad.” In the end he achieved a measure of vindication, but his freakish demise denied him a final reckoning in an unpublished manuscript he saw as his cri de coeur against scientific materialism and “ontological fascism.”

Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/89/dr-john-mack-md?page=3#ixzz4ybfuTTFb

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www.ufoinsight.com/the-john-mack-alien-abduction-files-a-case-study/

The John Mack Alien Abduction Files – A Case Study

First Published: March 10, 2019 Written by: Marcus Lowth


John Mack UFO


John Mack, M.D., a Pulitzer Prize-winning author and one-time professor at Harvard University, is not only still regarded as one of the leading figures in alien abduction research almost two decades after his death in 2004 but is perhaps one of the first “academics” to publicly embrace, investigate, and report on his findings of such a bizarre and controversial subject.

Indeed, not only did he receive a biased response to his findings, but many people in academic circles would look to actively distance themselves from him, with some publicly asking for a review of his clinical care credentials. To say the reaction was hostile and unnecessary would be an understatement. With that in mind, while we will examine some of the critical responses to his work, we should perhaps keep a pinch of salt ready, although this time for the skeptical assertions rather than the bizarre.

Incidentally, the review into Mack’s credentials went ahead, performed by the Dean of Harvard. The conclusion was that Dr. Mack had “academic freedom to study what he wishes and to share his opinions without impediment!”

We have examined one of Mack’s cases before when, along with the fantastic and persistent work of fellow UFO researcher, Cynthia Hind, the UFO landing incident at Ariel School in Zimbabwe received a thorough investigation and exposure to the rest of the world. Had it not been for their efforts, that particular incident, one of the most credible on record, would very likely have been dismissed and forgotten.

While Mack researched many incidents, it was his work with alien abductees that contain some of his most extensive studies. Using hypnotic regression techniques, all of which are accepted methods of practice, he would reveal some intriguing information concerning the alien abduction phenomena.

CONTINUE READING: www.ufoinsight.com/the-john-mack-alien-abduction-files-a-case-study/

[jcurio]

Note to self: I’m on the abduction experience of “Paul” (and I have to go to work ).

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Jan 19, 2014 11:41:43 GMT -6 auntym said:

aeon.co/magazine/altered-states/wasnt-i-special-enough-to-be-abducted-by-aliens/

WASN'T I SPECIAL ENOUGH TO BE ABDUCTED BY ALIENS?

John Mack was a Harvard scientist who took extra-terrestrial abduction seriously. Is he the reason I like misfits?

by Alexa Clay
Published on 17 January 2014

My younger brother and I called him ‘the old lizard’ (on account of his reptilian resemblance — and to irk our mother, his partner at the time). To his enemies, he was a crackpot, fraud, and a cheat. And to his patients, and many of his friends, he was a source of support, an open listener, a sage and protector.


The late John E. Mack – a Harvard psychiatrist who put his professional reputation on the line. Photo © John E Mack Archives LLC. Courtesy of Mack family


Dr John E Mack was many things to many people. A Harvard-trained psychiatrist, tenured professor, and one of the founders of the Cambridge Hospital Department of Psychiatry (a teaching hospital affiliated with Harvard University), John held an impressive command and was respected in his field. After an early career spent working on issues of child development and identity formation, he won the Pulitzer Prize in 1977 for his psychoanalytic biography of Lawrence of Arabia, entitled A Prince of Our Disorder (1976). Then, in the late 1980s, John put his reputation on the line when he started investigating the phenomenon of alien abduction.

It all started innocently enough. He began holding sessions with patients or ‘experiencers’ (as they’re called) who believed they’d been abducted. He ran hypnotic regressions from our home, and he gradually came to furnish enough evidence for a book, Abduction: Human Encounters with Aliens (1994). This was followed in 1999 by Passport to the Cosmos: Human Transformation and Alien Encounters. His standard line with the outside world was (as given to the BBC): ‘I would never say, yes, there are aliens taking people. [But] I would say there is a compelling powerful phenomenon here that I can’t account for in any other way, that’s mysterious… I can’t know what it is but it seems to me that it invites a deeper, further inquiry.’

In the privacy of our home, where he was a regular presence, John was bolder in his claims. Aliens were real — it was just that their existence threatened the dominant logic of our worldview. John attributed society’s failure to account for the abduction experience as a cultural failing. Alien abductees weren’t deranged or mentally ill — we just didn’t have a way of interpreting and understanding what they’d been through. Rather than label these peoples’ experiences as a new disorder or syndrome, John argued that we had to probe into and change our perception of reality to account for this phenomena. The subtext: we had to allow for the existence of aliens.

For more than a decade, from the time I was eight until I was of legal age, I was witness to these debates and to the politics surrounding John’s ‘coming out’ in support of abduction phenomena. My mother, an anthropologist by training, was John’s primary research assistant. They bought a house together in Cambridge, Massachusetts and my brother and I visited them once a month and during school holidays. The rest of the time we lived with my father and stepmother in Arlington, Virginia.

Like many of his colleagues, I viewed John with a mixture of scepticism and intrigue. Part of my scepticism can be put down to the fact that he was dating my mom; but a good fraction of it owed to my sense of reality being overturned by the postulation of ‘greys’ — a particular manifestation of extraterrestrials, known for their large heads, huge almond eyes, and shortened, pretty much featureless bodies.

At eight, and still learning to distinguish between fantasy and reality, the imposition of adults who believed in aliens was confusing and anxiety-provoking, but adventurous and thrilling too. I was fairly sure that Santa Claus wasn't real. But I wouldn’t have bet my life on it. My stuffed animals and toys had only just lost that animistic quality — becoming mere playthings, instruments of the imagination, as opposed to real creatures with essences all their own. As for aliens, I couldn’t be sure. Flying on airplanes between my parents’ houses I'd sometimes be on the lookout for a hovering metallic orb.

It was 1992 when John entered our lives. Bill Clinton was president, and Kurt Cobain dominated the airwaves. It was the end of the Cold War stand-off, and the political scientist Francis Fukuyama had just published his book The End of History and the Last Man, where he wishfully predicted that human evolution had come to an end with the triumph of Western liberal democracy. Everything was smooth sailing. We no longer had the threat of communists, but we didn’t yet have the threat of terrorists. In need of a symbolic enemy, aliens personified an important ‘other’ — a dystopian warning to our Western culture’s all too eager triumphalism.

On television, the paranormal soon paraded around on shows such as Roswell and The X-Files, which explored extraterrestrial phenomena in the shadow of government cover-ups and conspiracy. Flip channels and you might have caught Arthur C Clarke’s equally other-worldly 26-part series Mysterious Universe . It’s no wonder that the 1990s saw a rush of alien appearances in the popular imagination. The impending millennium brought with it the arrival of a future that had always been distant. As the political scientist Jodi Dean, author of Aliens in America (1998), articulated at the time, the appearance of aliens corresponds to our ‘anxieties over technological development and our growing consciousness of ourselves as a planet and our fears for the future at the millennium’.

There is some truth here. When I asked my mom and John growing up what the aliens intended (subtext: ‘Do they come in peace or should I be really scared?’), they said that many experience’s felt that aliens communicated an environmental message about the urgency of saving the planet.

At the same time, many of the abductees that John interviewed attested to the technological superiority of the alien race. I was told stories about patients who experienced aliens that could pass through walls, were able to communicate with extrasensory perception (ESP) and mind-reading, and perform medical experiments on humans without invasive surgery. In this light, aliens provided an outlet for all our fears of technological domination. To have an experience of aliens was to realise that the human race might not represent the pinnacle of evolution, that we were perhaps inferior to extraterrestrial life.

In daylight, I was sceptical (the good little rationalist), but night-time brought with it a tide of magical thinking

But as a kid largely igannant of grander sociological forces, aliens were only one thing: scary. They had large black eyes and androgynous forms. And they were real — like ghosts and witches and monsters. In daylight, I was sceptical (the good little rationalist), but night-time brought with it a tide of magical thinking. I used to lie in bed and worry that maybe I would be abducted. I would even make supplicating promises of better behaviour in the hope of bartering with these outsiders — ‘I’ll be good, just leave me alone.’ In my secular progressive household, aliens offered a moral disciplining authority, an invisible spectator to police my actions.

After many years elapsed without any sign of extraterrestrial visitation, I began to feel ignored. My fears turned to pangs of dejection: ‘Wasn’t I special?’ ‘Shouldn’t I be a chosen ambassador for the human race?’ Or even: ‘If the aliens were really out to create a master race (as I overheard), didn’t they want my DNA?’

CONTINUE READING: aeon.co/magazine/altered-states/wasnt-i-special-enough-to-be-abducted-by-aliens/

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Please DO read further in the above article, as it goes into more detail about what interested Dr. Mack; both before and after he was “sidetracked” by the topic of alien abduction experience.

Yes, I DO think that ultimately he was “sidetracked”. Wether this was/is a good thing..... remains to be seen.

When Mack first became involved in the “alien thing”, he was studying suicides (did I know this? I just heard about this part of his life. Again?).

When he died, he was studying about “love”, and was developing a manuscript...