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Post by jcurio on Jun 8, 2019 13:24:56 GMT -6
If you’re not scared of dying, but hate the idea of “prolonged death or some sort of torture”, then you have come to the right place. Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/1418/who-simplistic-solutions-jc?page=107#ixzz5qHnaeO9R*********** I think possibly I could have been misunderstood in this statement..... Simply put, I think that the “fairy world” is a place where humans experience prolonged death or some sort of torture. It is an “enchantment”. To the extreme, I think of it as a “vampiric” type of existence, where the fae keep humans alive for random “energy” that they need. The human envolved is not quite dead; not quite alive. I KNOW WHY I think this. But too hard to put into words. (I have again had some horrible dreams lately).
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Post by jcurio on Jun 8, 2019 13:29:23 GMT -6
Note: I am not afraid of death. I’m not afraid of “having it all (my beliefs) wrong.”
Note: this is WHY some of my recent dreams are so terrifying. SOMEONE (sinister; in the dreams) is trying to change my mind. “They” are trying to make me think that it is all hopeless.
Try to laugh. ! This “tactic” (by now) is SO OBVIOUS
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Post by jojustjo on Jun 8, 2019 15:11:25 GMT -6
You are one woman baffling entertainment. The security thing really seems troubling...have you ever had a problem at airport securities? And if I'm not mistaken that's not the first 'odd' man you've noticed. Gee...you wearing a sign that says..'encounter here' or something???
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Post by jcurio on Jun 8, 2019 20:51:31 GMT -6
No! I’ve never had airport security trouble! In fact, at airports, it’s like I have EXTRA CLEARANCE! ((Haha! Like flying with ME on board is extra safe! Ha!- just thought of that one! 😂🙃🙃😇)). Last flight was to San Francisco and back; AND spent the day at their super secure airport (even coming home through Chicago that time/ and a passenger refusing to get off a plane in Chicago at the time- no problems!!).
The drone situation? Must be real (and I was the only one outside) 😉. Today there was a sheet of paper stuck to our community mailbox.
LOST DRONE? (Big print)
phone number (very tiny print)
🤪
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Post by jcurio on Jun 8, 2019 20:53:02 GMT -6
**** seriously..... at airports it’s almost like I get a smile, and a “wave through”... REALLY
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Post by jcurio on Jun 9, 2019 22:14:27 GMT -6
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Post by jcurio on Jun 9, 2019 22:28:48 GMT -6
Another “rehash” from 2012. My goodness, we made it through THIS GUY talking out of both sides of his mouth. I thought we could make it through ANYTHING! ******** I would be weary of people or organizations that show a lack of transparency and you see conflicting messages. Strong national security, national defense. Concerned about Iran accessing nukes. But openly accepts ETs are real, UFOs etc. Explanation: America leads the world in arms trade. Israel is our #1 customer. If you are concerned about Iran accessing nukes then why openly embrace ET's and UFOs? Of course, if the cat was out of the bag, then Iran (our feared enemy) would now be eyeing what the ET's have. Defense is one reason our government lies about Roswell and UFOs. So if you are researching alien abduction and gathering info not wanting to step on anyones toes then one has to question motive. Where is the info going. Is it being kept in a locked drawer? Passed along to spooks because it's your patriotic duty. Things like that. The same people laughing off any suspicions in this thread accept that something isn't right with MUFON where you may read about a UFO case but there is not much in the way in details about the individual reporting the UFO. Steve, of course also voiced his suspicions about MUFON's BoD. But lets not forget he is former MUFON and goes about things in a similar discreet fashion. Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/2044/thomas-reed-multi-generational-abductions?page=9#ixzz5qPs74aOU
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Post by jcurio on Jun 11, 2019 8:23:23 GMT -6
I’m sleeping really heavily these days. Hitting the snooze button up to 4 times; and this is very unusual for me.
Around the house, I turn a fan off, only to come home and find it turned on again (mainly a symptom that I am so tired that I don’t remember doing mundane things).
My dad is in the hospital again. Third time this year. So, there’s that stress.
Sharing a car with my mom when I should have bought my own by now. Stress there.
Our basement flooded again this Spring, and I worked hard to get water diverted and put dirt around the foundation. That has held until the “boys” in the family can get out here and do some work.
Have NOT planted any annual flowers yet (very unusual! But it rained so much recently....)
I’m just always tired. Hard to find any peace in that 😉
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Post by jojustjo on Jun 12, 2019 2:30:08 GMT -6
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Post by jcurio on Jun 15, 2019 10:38:08 GMT -6
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Post by jcurio on Jun 15, 2019 10:42:13 GMT -6
For me to change my thinking to my "quirks" are alien/human/technology related, instead of a "spiritual interface", well, this is going to take some time. Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=encounters&action=display&thread=1418#ixzz1ZvKQeYVkI don't think the two have to be totally separate. First off (I am climbing up on my very underused Christian soapbox, my sole credentials being my training from 0 to about 14.) If God made the heavens and the earth - in fact created light from the void (the big bang?) then the aliens are also children of god. They may interpret their own version of god very differently or may even have set aside the idea of an available on-line for prayers god...but they probably have one. Note to self: ask Steve to ask Han. We are becoming technologically advanced (compared to say 200 years ago). Picking up a small object and talking to someone in China or even across town would have been seen as magical. Now we carry them in our pockets and talk and text everywhere we go. Yet we are still seeking (collectively) for spiritual meaning in our lives IMO. Most of my clients do not attend church and yet 95% identify as having spiritual beliefs and even those people who don't, often have a story about being comforted after someone close to them died (and the client was struggling with the concept of them just being...gone.) So in my informal polling of people, seeking is still going on. Praying too. If I was going to venture across space and time, I would want to take along the equivilant of a St. Christopher's medal. I would want to believe that there might be help out there - at very least, help to die with a light heart, accepting the next (big) step. We believe that "our" God made the earth and everything and being on it. Yet we are disrespectful about our stewardship. "Go forth and multiply and conquer the earth." might have been a bad translation or even a human addition. But why then might we be surprised when more advanced folks (technologically anyway) treat us the same way? To be studied, maybe used, maybe altered to someone's else's purposes. OH oh! Now I'm on a bigger soapbox and one that I share with my husband. If the Annunukei custom designed humans (in an earlier time) to be useful and work in the gold and uranium mines then they also designed us to have lots of babies. To replace those sick or dead workers and speed up production. Only domestic animals and prey animals have a lot of offspring. Think cats, rats, rabbits...The rest of planet goes with a replacement for the current adult. In a herd or pod or group, not all females give birth every year. The mothers of previous years are still keeping their last one alive. So maybe go forth and multiply was a command that was in SOMEONE ELSE'S best interests. Maybe humans early on (especially the one's with visitor bloodlines) got smarter than what was intended as a captive workforce and we left the garden, never to return. Or maybe the folks who have researched this and made these conclusions (they aren't mine) were just off on a tangent. But it sure is an interesting one...
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Post by jcurio on Jun 15, 2019 10:43:29 GMT -6
(just ran into the above..... why? 😊)
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Post by jojustjo on Jun 15, 2019 23:38:41 GMT -6
Welllllll...I read (a few years back) after having a bit of a death experience and coming back with a message...I read encounters others have had and experiences with 'heaven' upon dying briefly. A couple of them mentioned seeing not just 'our' kind but what looked like 'grey's and other different beings. I really wouldn't expect anything less. God's universe..his 'children' ...only a great egotist would think he only created humans. We're supposed to be created in his image. Does that mean we look like him or we are alike to him in other respects? Maybe a variation of the 'good book' appears on all planets or something similar. Why would we be the only 'miracles'?? Who knows how many 'faces' the guy has...how many hats he wears. Omnipotent.... I read a joke the other day...sort of a yuk yuk....the first computer was an apple. One bite and everything crashed. Could God be an AI...super computer?? Vast across space and time...are we children of a Matrix'ish thing???
If you're willing to stretch your mind...everything is possible and anything. We have certain concepts we are raised with and maybe there is a reason for that. It's our 'program'. If I were going to create a race of people..or many..I'd provide them with rules of conduct ...spiritual awareness...consequences...
Ok now my brain is going to do a slow melt down over this for the duration of the day and night....'sigh'.....
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Post by jcurio on Jun 16, 2019 17:32:50 GMT -6
If I were going to create a race of people..or many..I'd provide them with rules of conduct ...spiritual awareness...consequences... Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/1418/who-simplistic-solutions-jc?page=108#ixzz5r3aWJrUg________________ (laughing some more) What did the Israelites do while they were waiting for Moses to come down from the mountain? (Started grumbling, of course. “What’s taking him so long”, maybe he just died up there and we are waiting for nothing”, what if there is no God”? etc. etc.) And then, they partied down! (This generation of humans is no different. Yup. We need some sort of guidelines or rules)
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Post by jcurio on Jun 16, 2019 19:22:24 GMT -6
A couple of them mentioned seeing not just 'our' kind but what looked like 'grey's and other different beings. I really wouldn't expect anything less. God's universe..his 'children' ...only a great egotist would think he only created humans. We're supposed to be created in his image. Does that mean we look like him or we are alike to him in other respects? Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/1418/who-simplistic-solutions-jc?page=108#ixzz5r40tPZs5_________________ Since a lot of “seraphim” and such, are sometimes described in the Bible as having anything from 4 heads, to six sets of arms, I don’t think we should be shocked by the different “appearances” of His people. I just don’t think God is going to look like a huge spider, or an alligator, or a shark, even when He was depicted as angry. The commonality that I find in reading about near death experiences, the good ones, is that there is so much love, a special “clarity”, that everything is beautiful.
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Post by jojustjo on Jun 16, 2019 23:33:24 GMT -6
That is the common denominator. Peace, beauty joy. I didn't have anything like that..just coming back with the 'there is SO much more'...over and over for days. Something imprinted and I treasure that.
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Post by jcurio on Jun 30, 2019 7:39:36 GMT -6
And you should hold onto that. 😊
I have beauty in my life, some peace, and quite a bit of joy. Despite weird, almost crippling circumstances.
I give Jesus Christ the credit for keeping me safe.
I read a book yesterday by Barbara Bartholic. Yes, I read it in one day, while doing laundry and yard work; every time I took a break 🙂. My mom made cinnamon rolls and read a book also. It was in the 90s here, so we took a lot of breaks.
Barbara Bartholic was (she died at age 71) a lay person who learned how to do hypnotic regression and retrieval of memories. She traveled with Jacques Vallee for around 7 years; around the time that “close encounters of the 3rd” came out as a movie.
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Post by jcurio on Jun 30, 2019 8:06:15 GMT -6
Her life cannot be summed up in a simple post. (The book is first person narrative with a coauthor).
She had alien experiences from age 4, and for a long time she thought that these experiences were harmless; even special.
At this stage of my life I tend to compare other peoples experiences with my own 😌.
Will I ever KNOW, what happened to me at age 4?
Of course she didn’t recognize these paranormal experiences at a young age as “alien”.
How things happened in her life, including meeting Vallee, seems like a bunch of guided coincidences, from day One. She can actually put phases of her life over and over in this category.
Was she guided by something “benign”? Was she “sent” to help people?
She is privy to a lot of information during a “ufo wave” of the late 70s and 80s. A particular “wave” started in Arkansas the very night that “close encounters” was shown for the first time at a movie theatre there..... a little known fact that people at the time connected.... to the movie.
Do you remember seeing the movie back then?
I do. whenever I saw it, and I didn’t think of it as “real”. It wasn’t even as if “ is this happening somewhere else to people?” Did I have no concept that there was more to the world outside of Missouri? Did I think that Wyoming (or wherever) was too far away ? By then I had travelled by car and train to far away places like California.
At the time of the opening of the movie, Barbara and Vallee were seeing a lot of “cattle mutes” through the states of Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Kansas.
Something that I have just become aware of since 2007.
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Post by jcurio on Jun 30, 2019 8:19:09 GMT -6
I want to point out 2 things that Barbara says.
1) There is no way to stop the abductions ( how many times have we heard that?).
2) Her impression is that the “aliens” have little to do with old people (I’ve heard that HERE on TEOR.)
These 2 particular statements, are something that I wish was addressed on TEOR more often. Instead of as an afterthought.
Of course our “regular posters” are not posting anything right now. I still don’t know why that is?
I really don’t know.
One person is going through a divorce, and I understand that. She is our youngest person that posts regularly.
The others of us, are over 50 years of age (as far as I know) 😊. We have a lot of “experience” on this phenomenon.
Barbara has to quit working with Vallee because of “personal attacks”.
Ufo phenomenon has a “history” of breaking up people. Did TEOR become another victim?
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Post by paulette on Jun 30, 2019 12:12:23 GMT -6
"I want to point out 2 things that Barbara says.
1) There is no way to stop the abductions ( how many times have we heard that?).
2) Her impression is that the “aliens” have little to do with old people (I’ve heard that HERE on TEOR.)
These 2 particular statements, are something that I wish was addressed on TEOR more often. Instead of as an afterthought."
I'll weigh in with my unproven by much of anything opinion. I don't heard much about an abduction being averted once it's underway. Anywhere. Like, the people involved say, "No don't take me..." Or if they do, that it counts for anything.
I think children are easy targets. They aren't sure about what is "wrong" about seeing a UFO or little men for that matter. If samples, fetuses, etc are required, old people are of relatively little use. There is probably a time sweet spot to follow an individual and do multiple pick ups.
I also think that a lot of older people are not out in the woods, up at 3 am smoking a cigarette in the back, or driving in the middle of the night. Some yes, but not many.
If I was running an alien catch and release program I'd scoop the Rolling Stones musicians and see what keeps them going. I saw a clip of Mick Jagger just now - he DOESN'T LOOK ANY DIFFERENT THAN HE DID 30 YEARS AGO. Sounds the same too.
I still would like "one more" contact. They didn't (if it happened as I remember) hurt me. When I told them they were scaring me to dead, they "put me under." I was left with intact (some anyway) memories to sort out.
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Post by skywalker on Jun 30, 2019 18:32:20 GMT -6
Looks like a skinny little kid to me. Probably a girl with pigtails. You can hear the screen door open and close. Kids have a tendency to walk and act silly. I’ve never seen this Dobby character but if it acts like that she could have been imitating the movie.
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Post by jojustjo on Jun 30, 2019 23:25:28 GMT -6
That hadn't even occurred to me..but looking again it seems to be very deliberate exaggerated movements. Or it was a visiting alien tasting champagne for the first time.
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Post by skywalker on Jul 1, 2019 6:01:38 GMT -6
Maybe she saw her shadow and started acting silly to see the shadow act silly.
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Post by jojustjo on Jul 1, 2019 11:00:25 GMT -6
as a kid...I'd do that
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Post by jcurio on Jul 2, 2019 9:52:11 GMT -6
I honestly don’t know if I’ll get to post this.... 🤪😂
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Post by jcurio on Jul 2, 2019 10:03:09 GMT -6
Seriously... we have phone service. Our internet SHOWS it is working fine, and I’ve talked to a service rep.
But, no tv, and I can’t get on gddgle. ?? ________—
Thank You for your answers, Paulette.
I’m not in that “sweet spot” anymore. So, that IS saying that it COULD BE something about “genetics” (or even disease- because of cow mutes).
And cows aren’t known to be psychic.
So, what else is going on here?
Why, would “the government” be interested in little old me?
I “get it” that Jo says I have some “sort of attractiveness”. Humans often find me invisible (which most of the time I like), but I don’t like feeling that I am, Er, a little weird. Yes, don’t mind me; most of the time I’m used to that.... I just don’t know how it relates to problems with the internet and the like...
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Post by jcurio on Jul 2, 2019 10:12:14 GMT -6
I will say, that my nights are quite peaceful around here. My dog (now deaf) tends to bark when I go outside (he seems to miss me) and barks incessantly at night if I am not here and working late (loneliness?). Otherwise, besides sleeping more, he bounds off the couch and up and down stairs. I can’t have him around the young nieces and nephews because he’s possessive of me.
I’ve had some more “issues” with police cars, but I think that is becoming more explainable.... just kinda weird, too; and I’m not quite ready to talk about that.... let’s say it might actually BE a good thing....
Just trying to appreciate this little bit of peace I got going...
🤗😇🤣😁
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Post by jcurio on Jul 3, 2019 5:37:47 GMT -6
I see people in real life NOW wearing t-shirts that say “blessed” on them. When I ask certain people “how are you doing”, they say “I’m blessed”. 😊
Do you feel blessed?
I can recall (easily) feeling cursed.
It was my friends here on TEOR that helped me get rid of those feelings. THESE, were my friends that hung in there with me when I was a recluse and significantly paranoid. I had my Bible to read, and scripture learning from my past, but no “relational” help from that area.
I felt I HAD to keep ANY studies of the “paranormal” to myself.... though I longed to understand what was happening to me. Except here..... anonymously 🤗.
WAS it all, just some “spiritual attack”? Would church friends just pray over me, for me, and expect me to “keep my head in the sand”?
I’m NOT saying that everything that has happened to me is what the “church” would call “demonic”. I’m saying that it is still a way that people lump these experiences all together. ...........................
Now, I don’t quite know HOW to express my current studies, with “topics” that you all are familiar with here.
But there IS quite a bit of the “paranormal” to be found ..... in studying Christian martyrs.
I don’t think that I’m going to “find” any mention of “aliens”, but who knows? People nowadays refer to “aliens” as some of the past of religious history.....
I’m still currently reading something on the past belief in “elves”. But some of the literature is as hard to read as say, scripture? 😉😇
As usual, during these “peaceful times” of my life, I remain encouraged that I am being led. Led (or lead 😌) down the road in the direction that I’m supposed to be going. I get little “signposts” that seem to continue to point my way..... and I can tell you about those.... even to my own ears these “signs” sound silly, coincidental.....
I don’t LOOK for “signs”. It’s just something that a person becomes aware of.
Yesterday I prayed over all my friends here (on TEOR). I still don’t know what happened to make some people quit posting, and because I still don’t know, doesn’t mean that I am curious about it, or have to know 🙂.
I just want “everything to be ok”. Whatever that means for individuals.
That may seem like a huge request 🤣. SO many things are wrong in this world.
But hey! That’s another reason to be going back and looking at history!
😃
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Post by jojustjo on Jul 3, 2019 10:36:45 GMT -6
We had some long time friends leave over freakin stupid political differences. I didn't see or know about it until a friend mentioned it...and I'm sad for the loss. I know I've been very blessed in my life...very....and very fortunate to know it. I don't always 'feel' blessed...especially when dealing with some entirely human difficulty or even a physical one which I have had lately. Then after I've whined and felt sorry for myself I make myself remember those blessings and things hurt a bit less. Every morning my daughter and I stop for coffee on the way to work ..one of the 'barista's' usually works mornings..a lady in her early 60's..and she cracks me up...outgoing and friendly but lately her open book life has taken a really dark turn. She took her car to be fixed (it's not insured..it was broken)..so the mechanic parks it under a Eucalyptus tree...(notorious for shedding branches in wind) and that's what the tree did. Shed a branch right through the middle of her driver side door..like a can opener..huge bulging hole...insert tree here. So..we're going to bill the county (their property) but who said you could park there? So then...she goes with a friend horseback riding and the mulish critter dumps her on her bottom end....truly I could have lived without seeing the bruise....THEN...she goes to inspect the car, now parked on some incline to be worked on...and it runs over her. Just her foot actually...still.... Then her son calls her and says he's found a door for her at the junk yard for only $don't recall...she was broke...he made some shady deal and the guy who owned the door came around to her threatening...wanting his money or .
So she asks if I have any sage. I tell her I think she's beyond sage-ing..that maybe an exorcist is a better option. No...she's not up for that...so I take her the sage because I do use it a few times a year...and I tell her...no joking..you have to be serious when you do this and ask for blessings..help...and by all means PRAY.. or things might get angrier with you. So I suppose there will be some story about how the sage ignited and burned off her fake nails next.
It IS important to stay as positive as you can because positive attracts and so does negative.
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Post by jcurio on Jul 4, 2019 11:19:49 GMT -6
Thanks for the story about the barista! I’m amazed at how “every day things” can go so bad! Over and over, and over.....
Man, I bruise and FALL so stupidly! I stood on a perfectly good table, sturdy, to change a smoke alarm battery, and getting down I wasn’t as careful as getting up, and managed to push the table out from under me with my feet! (A couch table- you know, the kind that sits behind a couch for looks??). I fell squarely on my behind, hit my elbow too, and learned my lesson! I couldnt cry (too embarrassed), started laughing, and was so bruised down the back of one thigh and one arm.... gosh, how did I not break something?? (Including the table and a wall?!) Anyway, this is the first I have told THIS truth.... I just kept simply saying “I fell”. 😄
Since my FACE is usually involved, I shrugged this one off, and I guess people let me,,,, but I looked pretty bad in shorts for 2 weeks 😂.
Sigh~ I’m not “blessed”. I’m ALWAYS REDEEMED ( some how; some way)
😉
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