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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2012 21:13:21 GMT -6
Nah - I'm well aware of what's going on. so, to put it bluntly, what are people "afraid of"? I don't know how else to put it.
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Post by onlychild on May 7, 2012 7:03:22 GMT -6
so, to put it bluntly, what are people "afraid of"? I don't know how else to put it.
Fear is a reaction, not something thought through logically, so it differs from person to person. The common thread in all fear is "the unknown" and ET is about as "unknown" as you can get. The common reaction is fight or flight, and we can't fight this perceived threat, so we run. "Running" takes many forms, and the most common is denial in various forms. The beliefs that people create to hide from the topic that scares them are protected by illogical approaches that dismiss data which proves them wrong. Religion is the best example. You cannot have 200 approaches to a single topic and believe YOURS is the right version out of all approaches - you need proof - and people never collect proof. Not collecting proof is a method of protection, and they stay comfy and warm in their blanket of "proof" which does not exist. Death is another topic of fear that has given rise to multiple interpretations. The very fact that multiple interpretations exist shows we have no clue WHAT is going on - and we evidently don't want to know. My approach is, that unless there is a science connected to this topic that we don't know about - and "they" do - it's over. In the almost 63 years I have been on this planet, I have never once seen a ghost - and out of all the people in my life, there were two, if anyone SHOULD have "come back" it would have been them - and they never did. "What are people afraid of" in the ET subject? Everything they have heard that came from people who had experiences that scared them - and there is a possibility those experiences didn't even happen. I've had 55 years of experiences - and nothing about them was "scary" - weird a few times, yes - but never scary. Why is that? They like me more than you or whoever? No ... I just learned there wasn't anything to fear. So like the time I woke up floating in my kitchen, and got pushed down the hall and exited my apartment through the bathroom wall - it was just another day LOL.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2012 1:03:01 GMT -6
Sorry. . .I'm asking why are people (seemingly) afraid to talk about a "dooms day event".
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2012 10:39:50 GMT -6
Well..I can't answer for any one else, no one can..but it seems to me that if you look around at the news every day..there is enough disaster and doom somewhere in the world that no one wants to dwell on more of it. There is always some potential for doom and disaster..a meteor hurtling through space..solar flares causing chaos in communication..some nut pushing a button and detonating disaster. We live with it constantly. The object should be to lead productive and full filling daily lives..not dwell on endings..in my opinion. I'm not big on churches...but I do believe in God..and I believe in a grand design for each and all that is individual and personal. I read Onlychild's theory and I applaud the effort of research..but I don't agree with it... that's just me. Others may just not be interested in the topic beyond a read through. Or...doom just isn't popular in the forum today
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Post by onlychild on May 11, 2012 19:31:28 GMT -6
Sorry. . .I'm asking why are people (seemingly) afraid to talk about a "dooms day event". Dying in it - they have no control over it. They push it out of their mind any way they can.
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Post by onlychild on May 11, 2012 19:37:36 GMT -6
Well..I can't answer for any one else, no one can..but it seems to me that if you look around at the news every day..there is enough disaster and doom somewhere in the world that no one wants to dwell on more of it. There is always some potential for doom and disaster..a meteor hurtling through space..solar flares causing chaos in communication..some nut pushing a button and detonating disaster. We live with it constantly. The object should be to lead productive and full filling daily lives..not dwell on endings..in my opinion. I'm not big on churches...but I do believe in God..and I believe in a grand design for each and all that is individual and personal. I read Onlychild's theory and I applaud the effort of research..but I don't agree with it... that's just me. Others may just not be interested in the topic beyond a read through. Or...doom just isn't popular in the forum today I live in the same world and frankly it doesn't bother me - I have listened to this stuff for years. I only did what I did because it was presented to me over time. You are free to believe what you want - there will be a time when we find out if we have the right answer.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2012 21:14:19 GMT -6
There is always some potential for doom and disaster..a meteor hurtling through space..solar flares causing chaos in communication..some nut pushing a button and detonating disaster. We live with it constantly. The object should be to lead productive and full filling daily lives..not dwell on endings..in my opinion. Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=abductions&thread=2254&page=8#28240#ixzz1ucPBW996That's all good and well, but everything must come to an end. What is "doom" to some, may give someone else a sense of relief. A sense of change and a chance for life anew. I have no choice but to "dwell" on today. It's all I have. But most of us, with this age's conveniences, don't wait until tomorrow (waiting to see if it actually comes) to wash the clothes we will wear tomorrow. Onlychild is trying to convince me that E.T. showed up several years ago to help us. I don't doubt his idea of a "doom's day event". I honestly don't think other people always just "live for today". Whether I'm included in a plan to save some humans or not, I must believe that some humans, as part of today's job, are going over plans and preparing for a disaster. I'm happy to say, that where I work, children are encouraged to draw an escape plan, should their house catch on fire. I sure wasn't taught this as a child. Now, some humans may have had E.T. visit them and encourage them to "get ready". Some humans may have had dreams, or random thoughts. Some humans may have been shown places, or taught what they should do, as an "in case of" type exercises. I'm going back to the question of if I was E.T.: what would I do to help the humans? Some people warn, some people think, and some people DO. I think it is safe to put E.T. in this conjecture. And I'm not addressing the issue of what can E.T. do, and/or is authorized to do. I used the phrase "catch up" earlier. That was under supposing that E.T. only came (or increased activity) just before some event. Whereas, if E.T. has been collecting samples of earth "supplies", they could have been doing this for always. We can guesstimate when E.T. "arrived" in our time frame, and from that, maybe deduce when and why they left? Just like any speculation on this subject, the idea of E.T. helping humans is broad, IMO. This is where I can fit in Jokellys statement about "a grand design for each and all that is individual and personal. " You, onlychild, are addressing part of your grand design. It is my understanding that you were given the order to "warn" ( as was I) . It is an important part. Those that "do" may feel compelled to "do" things, but feel stuck because they can't visualize or don't know why they need to do certain things. When they try to "do" things without "warnings", they appear just as insane as someone who warns and no one listens. As an added bonus, with watching, someone who warns can learn to do what needs to be done, and those that get things done can learn to watch for warning signs. Somehow I think that E.T.'s help goes beyond this; teaching me how we should all live and work together. Please give me your thoughts on how you think they ARE helping, or are planning to help us?
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Post by onlychild on May 12, 2012 8:15:37 GMT -6
Onlychild is trying to convince me that E.T. showed up several years ago to help us. I don't doubt his idea of a "doom's day event". Let's clarify "doomsday" as wording has a habit of conjuring up images and ideas that tend to confuse people. This event is NORMAL in the overall picture. In our world it is no different than say - excess rain in the high country, that eventually causes different levels of flooding in the low lying areas. Emergency people who monitor the overall picture send messages to the inhabited areas, and we all know that SOME PEOPLE always want to stay behind. This is true for category 5 hurricane warnings as well, and most people "get it" while "thinking" keeps some people attached to their homes - they don't WANT to leave - they don't picture the REAL danger correctly in their minds and stay behind ... whatever. So this is a normal event, however, this picture has indications that it will also be a first time event - ie, never happened here before. The reason this will be a first time event, is because we have developed a world that is based on electrical dependence. All of our food, from farming to distribution, is dependent on electric to make it to us in the stores. Our vehicles are computerized, are communication devices are electrical, everything, somewhere in the loop, is dependent on electric to work. This event, as said, is normal for our area. The first impacts are a gravity wave and EMP. We have never had to worry about an EMP before as we have never had an electric society. We also have never had nuclear power plants before, and if the electric goes down I wonder what is going to happen to these HUNDREDS of reactors? So to potential for a real "doomsday" is there, and now we at least have a base picture as to why it's so "doomy". This does not include the cosmic ray incursion, or the dust cloud that will hit the sun and clog the atmosphere. Yes, it's a normal event, but we have ventured into areas we shouldn't have, and that's the story. I honestly don't think other people always just "live for today". Whether I'm included in a plan to save some humans or not, I must believe that some humans, as part of today's job, are going over plans and preparing for a disaster. I'm happy to say, that where I work, children are encouraged to draw an escape plan, should their house catch on fire. I sure wasn't taught this as a child.Where ya gonna go when the planet becomes a nuclear wasteland? Now, some humans may have had E.T. visit them and encourage them to "get ready". Some humans may have had dreams, or random thoughts. Some humans may have been shown places, or taught what they should do, as an "in case of" type exercises.
I'm going back to the question of if I was E.T.: what would I do to help the humans? Some people warn, some people think, and some people DO. I think it is safe to put E.T. in this conjecture. And I'm not addressing the issue of what can E.T. do, and/or is authorized to do.
The historical picture is not good ... and the base picture is dependent on knowing what's going on in advance, hence being mentally ready. The last time this event hit, as IS possible, the superwave blows through the oort cloud and dislodges comets, pushing them inward. It seems that's where the comet came from that hit north America, and based on archeological information, the people there didn't know about ET and the picture involved. The comet hit, the continent was toasted, the Clovis people died. Said comet was an added part of the picture, but the idea is ET is not going to get involved chasing people who are not mentally prepared, hence they run like scared rabbits when they show up. After looking at this picture for more years than I want to think about, the "caring" aspect is there (since they do come and want to get involved) but I would say that experience with many baby cultures like ours has taught them that if the targeted race is not mentally ready, and they have to deal with FEAR, they have arrived at the simple picture of not getting involved. We should know about this - we lost the information - we did NOTHING to try and preserve it - we let this NEW society grow - we screwed ourselves. I used the phrase "catch up" earlier. That was under supposing that E.T. only came (or increased activity) just before some event. Whereas, if E.T. has been collecting samples of earth "supplies", they could have been doing this for always. We can guesstimate when E.T. "arrived" in our time frame, and from that, maybe deduce when and why they left?As far as when they "left" the last time, guesstimates would float around 10,000ish BC, and we just went back to living our lives. It needs to be realized too, that based on a scant picture, the symbol involved was "upgraded" to a depiction that WE could NOT have ever known about, unless we were shown. To me, this seems to be advanced thinking / looking ahead down the road, because they "knew" we were going to screw this up? The mother goddess carvings, as a symbol for this / the sign of "life in the context of destruction" is iffy for people and I do understand this. However, the archetype is, and has been, the Orion nebula. We cannot see the nebula's details from here without a high powered telescope, but beginning about 9500 BC there are symbol references to the shape of the nebula. This new idea continues over time, and when the rewrite hit, this simple symbol had the triangular base closed and became the Egyptian Ankh, but still it was connected to the idea of "life". Later in time, the idea of the female and this symbol was connected to the goddess Tanit, and there doesn't seem to be anything else until the idea of a coming destruction and "intervention from above" hit the planet in the form of the Christian religion. From there the "cross" became the dominant version of the symbol, and 2000 years later here we all are scratching our heads. Just like any speculation on this subject, the idea of E.T. helping humans is broad, IMO. This is where I can fit in Jokellys statement about "a grand design for each and all that is individual and personal. "
You, onlychild, are addressing part of your grand design. It is my understanding that you were given the order to "warn" ( as was I) . It is an important part. Those that "do" may feel compelled to "do" things, but feel stuck because they can't visualize or don't know why they need to do certain things. When they try to "do" things without "warnings", they appear just as insane as someone who warns and no one listens. As an added bonus, with watching, someone who warns can learn to do what needs to be done, and those that get things done can learn to watch for warning signs.
The only difference between what I "DO" and what others "DO" is that I looked at the picture as presented to me years ago, which only incorporated 2000 years of our history, and said - NO - it isn't enough; this isn't going to work. "I" expanded the picture to the 40,000 year dating I have now because I knew a more thorough picture was needed. I had no idea where this looking was going to take me, but I know people - they want answers that cover the entire picture, so off I went trying to find these answers. I take full responsibility for the picture created, as this was NOT part of my experiences. I will say, that after having gone over this for YEARS - "I" am satisfied with it enough to present it as the complete lost picture. Now it's up to you - prove me wrong. Somehow I think that E.T.'s help goes beyond this; teaching me how we should all live and work together.Please give me your thoughts on how you think they ARE helping, or are planning to help us?
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2012 10:55:13 GMT -6
"Now it's up to you - prove me wrong" Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=. . _______________________________________________________________________________ No. . . . I agree with you. Without going into all my experiences, I was told we will not have electricity, and I was specifically visited by female "beings" that still carry the ankh. Coincidence with you? This probably won't matter to you, but when my eyes were first opened to a real, present, life-changing event in world proportions, I was given a book on the Rosicrucian's. Thus when the poster plutronus arrived on TEOR, I take heed. How many other people have come aboard here and suddenly start talking about being a Rosicrucian? Coincidence? It doesn't mean he is telling the truth, or even knows anything that is missing from MY picture, but I'm watching and waiting (for the time being). It seems to me that you are hinting that you think when the time comes, E.T. will show up and some people will simply get on their ships and leave. It sounds like you are saying that they came, and have steadily made their presence known, and increased activity, so that people will accept that this is what we are supposed to do in response to seeing their ships land. That in the past, in a situation where they could have done the same, they did not force or "take" any humans. I'm not seeing any other effort on your part to explain to me how E.T. is otherwise helping us. You are presenting the complete lost picture. What do you want me to do with this information? How are you planning to preserve this information so that it is not lost again?
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2012 11:07:55 GMT -6
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Post by onlychild on May 12, 2012 16:24:40 GMT -6
Without going into all my experiences, I was told we will not have electricity, and I was specifically visited by female "beings" that still carry the ankh. Coincidence with you?
The Ankh, after the rewrite began, was our original symbol with the triangular bottom closed. They couldn't erase it altogether, too many people held on to the idea and they couldn't erase the connection to "life" - but over time the meaning was lost. Isis, as the mother goddess, lost all of her symbolic weight too. This probably won't matter to you, but when my eyes were first opened to a real, present, life-changing event in world proportions, I was given a book on the Rosicrucian's. Thus when the poster plutronus arrived on TEOR, I take heed. How many other people have come aboard here and suddenly start talking about being a Rosicrucian? Coincidence? It doesn't mean he is telling the truth, or even knows anything that is missing from MY picture, but I'm watching and waiting (for the time being).
Nothing ever stood out to me in their doctrines, although it has been awhile since I've looked. It seems to me that you are hinting that you think when the time comes, E.T. will show up and some people will simply get on their ships and leave. It sounds like you are saying that they came, and have steadily made their presence known, and increased activity, so that people will accept that this is what we are supposed to do in response to seeing their ships land. That in the past, in a situation where they could have done the same, they did not force or "take" any humans. What is going to happen as well as when is not in my picture. I can guess why, but I'd rather just leave well enough alone. I'm not seeing any other effort on your part to explain to me how E.T. is otherwise helping us.
I don't think we are going to see any more than we already have seen. Some time back a couple of people on another forum and I joined in an "asking" event, where we set a date, told people, and however you thought you should "ask them to show up" you simply asked. They never showed up, and that was that. I think also there is a good percentage of the population that also is not wanted for whatever reason. Drug addicts, criminals and the like, along with the youth gangsta mentality and "I don't care" morons. As much as some people like to see "the good" here ... there is a ton of bad as well. You are presenting the complete lost picture. What do you want me to do with this information? How are you planning to preserve this information so that it is not lost again?
The base picture is simply that when "they" show up, it's because "something not very nice" is coming. Base on my experiences, the event is the superwave, although personally I won't rule out other possibilities. That's too easy to forget. Everything else is a picture I have put together and concerns the history behind the picture, and it's all on my drives. I have backups of backups. As far as your "doing", you and I should have a talk about what has gone on in your life, step by step. If you don't want to do it here shoot me a private message. We can take it from there
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2012 21:11:18 GMT -6
"Nothing ever stood out to me in their doctrines, although it has been awhile since I've looked" (quote from onlychild, above) That's my point exactly. Since reading the book I was given didn't give me any clues, I'm still looking for WHY or WHAT that was brought to my attention for. Since I read that book the only other reference I've had to Rosicrucian's was minimal in a Dan Brown movie; and I'm not looking at a Hollywood production for answers . The only thing that caught my attention about their doctrine is how they divide a year into "cycles". Nothing new, of course. ______________________________________________________________________ What do you want me to do with this information? How are you planning to preserve this information so that it is not lost again? (quote from me, jcurio) "As far as your "doing", you and I should have a talk about what has gone on in your life, step by step. If you don't want to do it here shoot me a private message. We can take it from there" (quote from onlychild) Whoa! You took me seriously, and I sure didn't expect this to become up front and personal . I'm very flattered that you think knowing my life story could possibly answer the question of "what should I do?" I realize that your response is totally correct. I asked you "what do YOU want me to do with this information", and since you don't know me. . . wow. Onlychild, I accidentally maneuvered myself into a quandry. I'm trying to get my own message out, with revealing as little of myself as possible. I've been "banking" on my "steadiness" of character, instead of my weird experiences, to get people to listen to me. In general, I know what I am supposed to do, and I've made no secret of it here on TEOR. I am an intercessor. I'll have to think about having our talk. Even in a PM. Again, I am very flattered. That someone would even have the intention . . . .
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2012 21:39:02 GMT -6
What is going to happen as well as when is not in my picture. I can guess why, but I'd rather just leave well enough alone. I don't think we are going to see any more than we already have seen. The base picture is simply that when "they" show up, it's because "something not very nice" is coming Thank You for your honesty.
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