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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2013 15:01:37 GMT -6
However unromantic..that makes sense to me Sky
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Post by skywalker on Jun 20, 2013 19:48:05 GMT -6
It kind of sucks but it does make sense. I never did think it was an alien but I was hoping that it was a skeleton of a "little person" or what people would call a fairy or leprechaun or something. It appears to be just a mummified aborted fetus though. Bummer.
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Post by sunbow on Jul 28, 2013 18:24:03 GMT -6
I just looked at Fetus images and Ata would have to have been very severely mutated to fit the bill. I am not saying it is not, rather I am saying that it does not look anything close. He is extremely thin and lanky. Also he looks like he is standing up straight. Perhaps the mummification people forced changes during the process, but I am not convinced. I also see the evidence saying it is nothing important and let us forget about it and stop studying it because it is not worth it to be just like the Roswell weather balloon. If it is a human fetus and the scientists believed that, they would want to study it more as an amazing thing to be learned from, not forget about it. Something just does not seem right to me.
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Post by auntym on Jul 29, 2013 10:47:31 GMT -6
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Post by skywalker on Jul 29, 2013 11:13:19 GMT -6
I just looked at Fetus images and Ata would have to have been very severely mutated to fit the bill. I am not saying it is not, rather I am saying that it does not look anything close. He is extremely thin and lanky. Also he looks like he is standing up straight. Perhaps the mummification people forced changes during the process, but I am not convinced. I also see the evidence saying it is nothing important and let us forget about it and stop studying it because it is not worth it to be just like the Roswell weather balloon. If it is a human fetus and the scientists believed that, they would want to study it more as an amazing thing to be learned from, not forget about it. Something just does not seem right to me. It wasn't mummified intentionally. After it died it was wrapped in a cloth and buried in a shallow hole in the ground. It was just the dryness of the region that caused it to be preserved instead of decomposing like it normally would have. The head is deformed slightly and that was supposedly caused during the abortion procedure. I believe the way people generally perform abortions in that region is to reach in with a wire hook and pull the baby out by the skull. If I remember correctly I think they are estimating that the fetus would have been about 15 weeks and the two bottom ribs are not formed by then which would explain the different rib count. Several scientists and doctors have looked at it and came to the conclusion that it was just a normal human fetus and therefor nothing to get excited about. Other people still aren't sure. The best thing to do would be to continue to study it until it can be determined conclusively one way or another.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2013 11:35:44 GMT -6
thanks AuntyM for the ATS article!
And I agree with Sunbow. Look how long they have already been studying this, to just "drop it"?
Yep, they need to find a second one, at least.
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Post by auntym on Aug 13, 2013 12:01:21 GMT -6
www.phantomsandmonsters.com/2013/08/humanoid-body-discovered-in-iran.htmlANOTHER ONE FOUNDMonday, August 12, 2013 Humanoid Body Discovered in Iran Butch Witkowski, Director of the UFO Research Center of Pennsylvania, forwarded the following email and images that he received 8/11/2013: We received these photos from a gentleman in the Republic of Iran this morning at 0512 hrs. Photos attached and email below. He stated in some following emails he is in process of having an MRI and Xrays taken. I'll keep you advised. ----- Dear Sir/Madam I am an Iranian person, Who found strange dead creature . This creature is looklike human, the whole of hight is 7Cm . It has very big eyes, yellow skin and bigger head than it`s body . The pheenomenal is that the body doesn`t frozen in ccold situation and has not bad smell in warm weather, and not Rotted yet . It`s muscles still look stong with short hairs and tooth are looklikes wild animals . If you are intrested in, i will send more photos of the above mentioned . Youre prompt reply is highly appreciated . Regards Hamid G. NOTE: At the present time, I'm not going to make comparisons of this being with the 'Atacama Specimen', the 'Metepec Creature' or the 'Kyshtym Alien.' When I receive follow-up information on this artifact, I will update the post. Lon ANOTHER PICTURE & CONTINUE READING: www.phantomsandmonsters.com/2013/08/humanoid-body-discovered-in-iran.html
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2013 12:36:13 GMT -6
Continue reading. the website that posted this goes on to express their doubts.
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Post by auntym on Aug 13, 2013 12:58:04 GMT -6
Continue reading. the website that posted this goes on to express their doubts. many people doubt it...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2013 13:31:32 GMT -6
Just looks like a sad little fetus to me
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2013 21:36:18 GMT -6
I know, I know, auntym. I was so disappointed when someone said this guy from Iran has some stuff he has been wanting to sell for years. . .
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Post by auntym on Nov 24, 2013 11:49:10 GMT -6
arteinsky.blogspot.co.il/2013/11/humanoid-body-discovered-in-iran-first.htmlNovember 23, 2013 Another Small Humanoid Body Discovered In Iran (the first time public) Butch Witkowski, Director of the UFO Research Center of Pennsylvania, forwarded the following email and images that he received 8/11/2013: We received these photos from a gentleman in the Republic of Iran this morning at 0512 hrs. Photos attached and email below. He stated in some following emails he is in process of having an MRI and Xrays taken. I’ll keep you advised. Dear Sir/Madam I am an Iranian person, Who found strange dead creature . This creature is looklike human, the whole of hight is 7Cm . It has very big eyes, yellow skin and bigger head than it`s body . The pheenomenal is that the body doesn`t frozen in ccold situation and has not bad smell in warm weather, and not Rotted yet . It`s muscles still look stong with short hairs and tooth are looklikes wild animals . If you are intrested in, i will send more photos of the above mentioned . Youre prompt reply is highly appreciated . Regards Hamid G. Published on Aug 17, 2013 One of the world's most baffling skeletons has been found again! This time in the country of Iran. No doubt Dr Steven Greer will have a great interest in this one as well. Strange indeed! www.gofundme.com/oceanxteamgrenzwissenschaft-aktuell.blog... 4.bp.blogspot.com/-lDTSj0HctnI/UoUgCKJ9V5I/AAAAAAAA4qQ/7WqQfauyHUA/s640/IMG_1085.JPGarteinsky.blogspot.co.il/2013/11/humanoid-body-discovered-in-iran-first.html
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Post by satansrini on Jun 20, 2014 11:47:22 GMT -6
Anyone interested and with the time.. and if you haven't watched it.. do so
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Post by satansrini on Jun 20, 2014 12:09:27 GMT -6
wow.. these guys are chanting Sanskrit hymns to meditate and whats what the sanskrit song?!! didn't expect this!!
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Post by satansrini on Jun 20, 2014 12:47:13 GMT -6
At about 55 mins into the docu.. Steven Greer along with his 2 other team mates are diagnosed with a rare.. but SAME kind of cancer at the SAME TIME!! heck of a coincidence.. I can understand poison and stuff.. how can the induce cancer? Wonder if there are any carcinogenic substances that can be mixed in your food or something.. 3 people .. friends.. all with cancer at the same time?!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2014 21:34:35 GMT -6
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Post by skywalker on Jun 20, 2014 21:35:54 GMT -6
At about 55 mins into the docu.. Steven Greer along with his 2 other team mates are diagnosed with a rare.. but SAME kind of cancer at the SAME TIME!! heck of a coincidence.. I can understand poison and stuff.. how can the induce cancer? Wonder if there are any carcinogenic substances that can be mixed in your food or something.. 3 people .. friends.. all with cancer at the same time?!!!!!!!!! I haven't watched the documentary yet but I have been wanting to. I'll do it as soon as I get the chance. As for inducing cancer in people, yes it is possible to do and it has been done before. I remember reading about an incident where a man developed colon cancer and it was later discovered that a large piece of radioactive uranium had been hidden inside the seat of his car. He had been sitting on it every day while he was driving and had no idea it was there. I also know that starting back in the late 1940s the US government started doing radiation experiments on unsuspecting people to see how much radioactivity a person could tolerate before they would get sick or die. They were injecting people with uranium and plutonium, mixing radioactive substances with food and feeding it to children, giving pregnant women radioactive drinks to see how it would effect their unborn babies and all sorts of other bad stuff like that...all in the name of "science." Back then radioactivity wasn't understood very well so they claimed they were doing it as research to better understand the effects of it. Naturally none of the people knew that they were being used as Guinea pigs and a lot of them did get sick or develop cancer as a result of the experiments. Some of them did die from it too. These types of experiments weren't just being done by the US either. Other countries were doing similar things to their own people. With all of the information they gained from those types of experiments it would be very easy to cause cancer or illness in a person without them ever even suspecting that anything was wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2014 21:48:08 GMT -6
yep.
And it helped them fine tune a murder weapon. Enough studies were done to determine amount, length of time before illness/death, etc.
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Post by auntym on Nov 18, 2014 13:03:39 GMT -6
wafflesatnoon.com/ata-the-6-inch-alien-real-or-hoax/ Ata the “6-Inch Alien” – Real or Hoax?Posted on November 17, 2014 by wafflesatnoon in Hoaxes & Rumors Comprehensive overview of credible information on Ata, the 6-inch humanoid skeleton found in Atacama, Chile. Includes our observations and questions.The Atacama HumanoidIn 2003, in the remote desert Atacama region of Chile, small mummified remains of what appeared to be a tiny human-like creature were found. In April of 2013, a documentary film was released which unveiled deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) testing results of those remains. To some people, these results provided more questions than answers. And the biggest question of all is if the remains were even real. The film entitled “Sirius” is promoted by Dr. Steven M. Greer, M.D., who is a self-proclaimed authority on unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and extraterrestrial intelligence. Though the film’s scope encompasses more than just the remains known as “Ata,” this diminutive creature’s role in the film has garnered the most attention. Critics have panned the film as recycled UFO fodder and accused Greer of peddling theories with no evidence. In the segments relating to Ata, however, Greer brings in some reputable scientists which lend some authority to the assertions regarding the remains. The official “Sirius” website can be found at siriusdisclosure.com. There the documentary can be viewed for $4.99 and/or the DVD can be purchased for $9.99.
DNA ResultsIn the film we learn that Garry Nolan of Stanford University’s School of Medicine performed DNA tests on the remains. He stated, “I can say with absolute certainty that it is not a monkey. It is human – closer to human than chimpanzees. It lived to the age of six to eight. Obviously, it was breathing, it was eating, it was metabolizing. It calls into question how big the thing might have been when it was born.” Nolan said he can state “with extremely high confidence that the mother was an indigenous Indian from the Chilean area. The other thing that immediately fell out of the analysis is that it’s male. It probably died in the last century, if I were to make a guess.” Results of the DNA testing were covered by NBC News www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/teensy-alien-looking-skeleton-chile-poses-medical-mystery-f6C9700442 and the Discovery channel. news.discovery.com/human/alien-looking-skeleton-poses-medical-mystery-130430.htm?AID=11732244&PID=6157264&SID=1m7e1pkq0d8xw&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.discovery.com%2Fhuman%2Falien-looking-skeleton-poses-medical-mystery-130430.htm&ecid=AFF-7975437&pa=affcj&PCID=2470763 CONTINUE READING: wafflesatnoon.com/ata-the-6-inch-alien-real-or-hoax/
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Post by auntym on Nov 18, 2014 13:30:22 GMT -6
i still say atacama is alien...
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Post by auntym on May 22, 2015 11:18:17 GMT -6
www.ancient-code.com/the-atacama-desert-extraterrestrial-what-science-says/The Atacama desert extraterrestrial: What science saysby Ivan Petricevic May 21, 2015 In 2003, in the Atacama desert near an abandoned town called La Noria in Chile, Oscar Muñoz found the remains of what is considered to be the most bizarre humanoid on Earth. The tiny body measures only 15 centimeters and has a number of unique features that have since, puzzled the scientific community. Muñoz sold the strange creäture to a bar owner who purchased it for 50$. It is believed to be very old, but the rigorous dating showed that had lived and died somewhere within the last hundred years. The most striking feature of Ata is, other than the size, the skull. It looks pretty human, but the long and disproportionate features has influenced ufologists and other researchers who have proposed, since its discovery, numbers theories suggesting that this creature is of extraterrestrial origin. Scientists rushed with theories trying to give rational explanations for the mysterious creäture. The first theory assumed that due to its size, Ata was a premature human fetus. Some anthropologists said it could also be the body of a young man suffering from an extreme case of progeria. Another theory is that Ata had a severe case of dwarfism. These issues were set aside after an extensive analysis was carried out by leading scientists from Stanford University. After six months of study of the skeletal remains, they concluded that the Atacama Humanoid remains a profound mystery. But researchers wanted to find out more about this mysterious creäture. In order to test whether this creäture was of human origin, genetic analysis were conducted. Taking DNA samples from the ribs, researchers found put that Ata was “human” after all. According to researchers, mitochondrial DNA revealed that his mother was originally from South America. However, they found none of the genetic markers that indicate dwarfism, progeria, or oxycephaly. In other words, they found no answer to the extremely small size and elongated skull. Regardless of sex, race or size, humans have twelve pairs of ribs while Ata had only ten. Researchers have not found any human skeleton with only ten ribs. The skull vault is proportionally higher than that of normal humans. His bones are well-developed and even has fully developed teeth in the jaw, which eliminates the possibility that Ata is a deformed human fetus. Researchers that conducted testing unanimously agreed that they could not give definitive answers to the questions posed by this small humanoid being. Adding to the mystery, or better said trying to explaining it,the locals say they have seen strange lights in the sky, UFOs and creatures that fit the description of little Ata. Unconfirmed reports speak of similar humanoids which remain alive and are studied in undisclosed locations. Even though researchers were able to show a human connection to Ata, that does not rule out the possibility that he is an alien. There is also a discrepancy between the genetic material and appearance. The smallest human being ever recorded and confirmed is Chandra Bahadur Dangi having 54.64 centimeters high, which is still three times higher than Ata. So many scientific details, yet so little information. Was Ata truly an otherworldly visitor? Is the mysterious shape of the skull evidence of extraterrestrial origin? Mainstream scientists are opposed to the idea of extraterrestrial life, especially existing on Earth, but maybe one day, we will truly understand what creatures like Ata really are, their origin, purpose and meaning. Perhaps, after all, we are not alone on Earth and in the universe.
MORE: www.ancient-code.com/the-atacama-desert-extraterrestrial-what-science-says/
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Post by auntym on Apr 14, 2018 12:54:33 GMT -6
devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/15649/hes-doing-it-for-america/ He’s doing it for Americaby Billy Cox / devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/author/cox/Posted on April 13, 2018 Still recovering from how the mainstream media went bounding off last week for that bogus Buzz Aldrin-lie detector-space aliens nothin’burger. Yeah, they all went for it. The very same crowd that glommed onto last month’s exemplary reporting from defense-industry journalist Tyler Rogoway. Rogoway’s stuff went viral for using FOIA to acquire recorded exchanges among airline pilots, air traffic control, and the FAA as they tried to make sense of UFOs injecting themselves into crowded commercial corridors. But the corporate newsies, at least in terms of numbers, made no distinction between FAA data and the Aldrin hoax. And I’m too bummed out to rehash the Buzz particulars here. What’s most disappointing is, just when I was hoping the MSM might’ve turned the corner on discernment and proportion, this week’s snipe hunt comes on the heels of last week’s equally sensationalized non-news headlines about the deformed remnants of a miscarriage discharged into a Chilean desert a couple of hundred years ago. Wonder how many expectations were dashed by the announcement: Nope, sorry folks, buzzkill, the unfortunate little specimen isn’t a space alien after all – just one of those curiosities that happens in vitro from time to time. Why would anyone promote a space alien/hybrid fetus hypothesis in the first place? Well, not just anybody would. But Steven Greer, the Disclosure Project/“Ambassador to the Universe” guru, isn’t just anybody. In 2013, he featured the little dead bugger in a conspiracy documentary called “Sirius.” De Void took a peek at it back when the six-inch cadaver’s origins were still a mystery. Had this recent reality check – published in the journal “Genome Research” by genetic scientists at two California institutions – arrived without Greer banging the drum for ET DNA for the past five years, how many people would’ve paid attention? Look, De Void is about to take a week’s worth of vacation, so I don’t feel like putting much thought into this blog today (obviously). And if there’s anything you want to sound off on between now and when I get back, let ‘er rip, OK, just don’t expect your posts to instantly pop up, on account of the ongoing spam avalanche that now requires me to approve each and every comment, which sucks. But I’m signing off with this latest disappointment for one reason: the media’s not-a-space-alien-baby-after-all lovefest has resuscitated the otherwise neglected and irrelevant Steven Greer. This week, his email teasers for coverage have been incessant. And you know what? Here’s the surprise: I’m finally beginning to come around. I’m beginning to think the man is onto some true clarity. Clarity doesn’t come cheap. That’s why he’s forced to charge up to $6,000 for “Ambassador to the Universe” training seminars. And after watching his visionary video-link rebuttal of the “Genome Research” magazine article, I can only pray there’s not a Jack Ruby at the corner of the frame hoping to nip it in the bud. According to Greer, the desiccated corpse, nicknamed Ata, for the Atacama Desert, where it was discovered, is “probably a PLF – a programmed life form” from Out There, the same place The Truth Is. But you’re dead wrong if you think this controversy is about a stinkin’ mini-corpse. Greer says “the future of the human race … is at stake here.” And he’s rightfully demanding to know who – who specifically, at the NY Times, the BBC, CNN, etc. – got co-opted to parrot the “outrageously wild, implausible conclusions” drawn by authors of the “Genome Research” piece. Here’s the good news. Greer’s links show me how to obtain the unfettered truth. For $19.95, I can buy the DVD explainer “Unacknowledged: An Expose of the World’s Greatest Secret,” plus I get the accompanying book thrown in for free. For free. Or for $14.99, I can get a streaming version of “Unacknowledged: The Campaign That Ends Illegal UFO and Free Energy Secrecy.” Or for $155, I can buy an entire DVD catalogue of Greer’s clarity, “The Untold History of Disclosure.” But yo, wait up, I haven’t even gotten to the good part yet: Instead of shrinking from the “kleptocracy of the petro-fascists” who control the world, Greer is doubling down. On May 12, in Tempe, Arizona, the truth-teller the Deep State fears most will be getting revenge with a four-hour presentation that’s so long, it can barely be contained with mere words. It’s called, verbatim, “The Atacama Coverup: How Global Disclosure is being hijacked by the Intelligence Community AND Close-Encounters of the 5th Kind: The Ultimate Civil Disobedience Action.” Just $85 a ticket. Can’t make it in person? You’re covered. Just $35 for the webinar. I know what you’re thinking: I’m only one person – what can one person possibly do to fight back? Here’s how: Demand an investigation into academic misconduct. Greer is dispensing phone and email contacts to Stanford University’s Office of General Counsel. Stanford researchers were among those who studied Ata. Also: Bombard the Cold Harbor Genome Laboratory Press with email complaints, too. Greer has that contact info as well. Let them know you’re onto their shenanigans and you won’t let them get away with it. If the media doesn’t cover Greer’s presentation in Tempe, we’ll know they’ve been silenced by the petro-fascists. devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/15649/hes-doing-it-for-america/
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Post by auntym on Apr 17, 2018 13:55:32 GMT -6
cosmosmagazine.com/biology/atacama-skeleton-research-prompts-anger-and-ethics-concerns 18 April 2018 Atacama skeleton research prompts anger and ethics concernsThe handling of strange 15-centimetre human remains was motivated more by publicity than science, Chilean researchers suggest. Andrew Masterson reports.by Andrew Masterson / news editor of Cosmos. / cosmosmagazine.com/contributors/andrew-mastersonThe 15-centimetre Atacama skeleton: tragic in life, controversial in death. BHATTACHARYA S ET AL. 2018 A recent paper identifying a much talked-about 15-centimetre skeleton as human has come under fire from other researchers, who allege the treatment of the remains was unethical and an example of “scientific colonialism”. The paper, published in the journal Genome Research and covered by many outlets around the world, including Cosmos, presented the results of genome analysis of the “Atacama skeleton”, a bizarre-looking miniature humanoid originally discovered in 2003 in Chile’s Atacama Desert. The discovery caused a sensation, and led to many suggestions among the general public to explain its tiny, dome-headed appearance. Some theories went as far as to claim the remains were evidence of an extraterrestrial being. In their paper, researchers led by Gary Nolan of Stanford University in the US built on previous work identifying the skeleton as human through DNA analysis. The latest work establishes that the remains are those of a preterm Chilean girl, born with several genetic mutations. Following the publication of the research, several Chilean scientists raised objections about the way the work was carried out, and the way in which Nolan and his colleagues obtained the Atacama skeleton. In an article in the Chilean magazine Etilmercurio, researchers led by Nicolás Montalva, president of the Sociedad Chilena de Antropología Biológica, accused Nolan’s team of ignoring Chilean laws governing the handling of human remains and pandering to populism. “Presumably, they were thinking of the colossal media response to the case, literally making an Alien show out of this apparently tragic story,” Montalva and his colleagues assert. They move on to place Nolan’s study in the broader ethical field of bioanthropology – areas of research that use human remains as their basic information source. They acknowledge the benefits and insights that come from the study of the dead, but add the caveat: “ethical and legal protocols when working with human remains are as important as the research itself, and need to be followed strictly”. In response to the Chilean criticisms, both the journal and the authors have added formal statements to the original paper. Defending its policies for reviewing work involving human remains, Genome Research editor Hillary Sussman said the journal maintained the highest standards of ethics and responsible peer review. The Atacama skeleton, she added, technically fell outside the publication’s own guidelines. “Current human subjects research policies do not typically cover the study of specimens of uncertain biological origins, such as the Atacama skeleton,” she wrote. “The DNA sample from the Atacama skeleton did not qualify as human subjects research as defined by the [US] Federal Office of Human Research Protections. Thus, neither specific approval nor exemption was required for the study reported in the paper.” Montalva and colleagues rejected the editorial claim outright, saying that it was simply not credible that the journal did not acknowledge the Atacama skeleton as human. “That leads us to believe they were either taking the claims of extraterrestrial origin seriously, or more likely, were motivated by potential media attention,” they wrote. Two of the original authors – Nolan and Atul Butte – added a note to the study, effectively echoing the Chilean scientists’ concerns. “We have clearly stated previously that this skeleton should be repatriated and accorded proper respect as human remains, and echo recent demands for its repatriation,” they state. cosmosmagazine.com/biology/atacama-skeleton-research-prompts-anger-and-ethics-concerns
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Post by auntym on Jul 31, 2018 14:08:11 GMT -6
The Atacama Cover-UpPublished on Jul 31, 2018 The Atacama Cover-UpIn this lecture Dr. Steven Greer goes into detail about the cover-up and distortion of the research on the Atacama Humanoid. He includes the indisputable research done on the Being via xrays and CT scans. Additionally, he shares comments by two prominent geneticists who were outraged at the academic corruption shown in the report published in Genome Research. Further, Dr. Greer shares an interesting “coincidence” of Garry Nolan receiving a multimillion dollar grant from the Department of Defense weeks after accepting to do unbiased research on the Atacama Humanoid. He also shares the “interesting” credentials of those who are part of TTSA – To The Stars Academy and posits what their relationship might be to the Intelligence Community. You will want to hear these details from him in this presentation and make up your own mind. The presentation was on May 12 , 2018 in Phoenix AZ. Find out more at www.SiriusDisclosure.com
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