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Post by plutronus on Oct 3, 2012 22:54:45 GMT -6
Hey All,
Anyone aside from myself happen to notice the number of current 'Guests' that are visiting the TEOR?
Active Users In The Past 24 Hours online: 4 Staff Members, 15 Members, 459 Guests
Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi#ixzz28Iox44vL
Which threads do you suppose that they are reading? That's a lot of folks poking around, while hiding who they are. Any bets a lot of them are ET subjects bloggers, TV show producers, and US KGB?
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Post by plutronus on Oct 3, 2012 22:46:44 GMT -6
SkyWalker says: 'Anybody who is gullible enough to actually wear a tin-foil hat is not the type of person whom the government would need any extra help in controlling. ' [/size][/quote] Hello Sky,
I in essence agree, however, its a tricky position to take, 'cause I'm one of those people. :-) I just awakened one day knowing that I needed to shield my head, (no one told me about it), so I fashioned a metal-foil head covering...a hat. It helped a bit to reduce the pressure I was feeling inside my head. Later I began to use anti-static charcoal bags which I fashioned into 'Beetle-Bailey' style Army private's hats. I have photos. When I saw 'Signs' (Bruce Willis) and saw the actors wearing those pointed metal-foil hats, I laughed out-loud, in fact I was the only one in the audience laughing. It just....well...it just really hit home. Heh heh.
As for the MIT'ers, they were first year electrical engineering students which means that they were engineering newbies. I suspect they barely knew how to switch-on the gear...could barely use that $250k Dollar Agilent. And incidentally, a 'network analyzer' is the wrong tool to use for an RF study of this type. While making their pointless assertions, they forgot to reveal their test setup configurations, the RF plumbing, RF signal budgets, antenna type, antenna positioning, levels, transmitter dBw....all the stuff that's important to know to verify what they claimed.
Plus, who says the metal-foil shielding is for EMF? Did they just PRESUME that point and then test for it? Where did they get the idea that ET Mind-Control is high-frequency RF based?
Anyone with a brain knows that RF can't be used at any distance, it spreads, much worse than a flashlight beam and y'all know how much light there is at a hundred feet or so, let alone have enough power for something as a complex as Mind-Control function suggests. And who says RF can be used to control the Mind? In anycase the HIGH POWER transmitter would have to be across the street or next-door to impart enough energy to affect the neurology of a brain let alone control it and it would disrupt everything electronic in the beam path inside the power-range envelope, so it wouldn't be too stealthy either.
Back to 'Tin-foil' or more specifically Aluminum-Foil (tin-foil is a better electrical conductor, but hasn't been publicly available for nearly 60 years since the advent of Aluminum-foil), its obvious to any engineer that metal-foil would likely not provide any significant signal attenuation, if there was a powerful enough signal present to warrant attenuation. And its not amplification either, as there is nothing active, so if the LOW-POWER signal is being increased, its due to the shape of the foil, its acting like a concentrator lens, or similar to the EMF flux concentration of a parabolic-reflector. Of all the folks I've seen, including myself, that have worn shielding hats, not one has been a fez shape, so the MIT students missed on that point also. Its just random stuff. And then to put a nice creamy topping on it, there's no ground-plane, irregardless of geometry, 'fez' or otherwise.
In summary, its just techno-babble. Its a college joke, hah hah hah, and it is funny too. Those katz are pulling folks legs. :-)
Mind-Control if it exists isn't EMF based too many physics problems, however, I'd look in the direction of (Cleve Backster's definition of) psionics.
plutronusps, I wrote those guys the first time I learned of their assertions, (~2007?) and never received a reply to any of my points.
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Post by plutronus on Oct 3, 2012 8:16:34 GMT -6
[/color] [/quote] Hi AuntyM,
Thanks for taking the time to track down some videos on this subject. :-)
Lots of folks on the 'Net are saying that the whole video is a hoaxed re-enactment, all using actors. That may be, but the spectra-grams used in the doc are authentic spectra-graphs of dolphin and whale song as best I could see. I at one time dated a gal (very cute). She was a dolphin research scientist affiliated with Sea-World. Heh heh, I'd take her out on on weekends. We'd go to her place after a movie, have a nice quaint little dinner, have some vino, get comfy, she'd get really excited, yanking out her FFT spectra-graphs on her PC, yakking about it for hours, heh heh. Yep. She was an interesting gal. :-)
Ad rem, if that video is a fake, they got me good...because I think it was excellent. I really enjoyed that documentary. Of course it does seem to be a re-enactment. Plus, there were a couple things about the camera phone video that seems a bit odd, frankly. I watched the 3 hr documentary twice, and both times I was unable to pin-point the appx date of when the two kids cell-corded the Mermaid on the beach. If it was the Washington event (I remember when that happened, it was in the national news), well, I think that would have been too early for cell-corder technology. The cell-corder video was fairly long too, 45 seconds? A minute? Fast flash (Nand) memory had been invented, but wasn't in common usage by OEMs yet. And who allowed kids to use cell-phones back in that period? Remember? $0.45/minute, no free time. Also, the video looks like its a recording of a CRT based interlaced TV screen. I could see the interlace & retrace blanking intervals, anyone else notice that? And the brother running the camera, he knew exactly where to zoom point the camera. Seems too controllable. Cell-phone cameras today don't work that well, at least none of mine ever have. Has to be a re-enactment, which means, we have no idea what was actually used to video the Mermaid beaching, plus lots of other things may have been changed? Names?
I'm gonna see if I can track down the show producers and then locate the scientists that the (I suspect) re-enactment actors portrayed. For one thing, I could be persuaded to do a bit of investigation in this area. There may be a linkage between discs (frequently reported entering/exiting oceans), Mermaids and US Nvy. Just another aspect of ET science to squeeze any turnip for a little more info. And then, since I've always considered myself to be a primate behavioral anthropologist, which has been my Nr 1 interest in science since I was a kid, well, this is right up my alley.
Soo...if its a fake, they got me right between the eyes!!! And I loved it!
Here's the video of the Mermaid. The visual quality is really nasty compared to what was presented on TV (& my 52in HD LED TV).
If it was real, that poor thing (unless of course, Mermaids have the personality traits of Apache Indians).
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Post by plutronus on Oct 1, 2012 13:32:10 GMT -6
Its been many years that I've watched anything on TV that so glued my attention as this Discovery Channel documentary presented by the Smithsonian Institute. It was a story, told by five authentic, mostly gvmnt scientists. Three were employees of the US NOAA (National Oceanographics and Atmospherics Administration), one affiliated with the African guv and one with the Australian gvmnt. A few other scientists sprinkled in for good-measure also collaborated.
Scientific discovery journeys typically begin, with mundane investigation, however, this one from the very outset began with a bang and ended with an even larger surprise, one that strips away innocence about things hidden. All along the journey were fascinating and curious surprises, as had happened from the very beginning. And unlike many scientific studies, this one was rooted in events so large that it made the public headlines, on numerous occasions, too large for PTB to control, to suppress, and the efforts of the scientists doing their study of the events, also made the headlines, but not for the reasons of the documentary. Theirs was concern for the large animal safety in the oceans. Ultimately, their discoveries took them down the path of mythology, until they came to the most unprosaic of conclusions...they had found not one, but multiple quality scientific evidence for the existence of Mermaids. Not one scientist alone, but multiple gvmnt paid scientists, on three continents.
The NOAA scientists and the other scientists collaborators had:
- multiple recorded Mermaid vocalization spectra-grams, language, 'bloop' over dozens of years
- they had found large portions of decaying strange white body flesh consistent with Human flesh that had been scavenged by a shark after something had injured or killed the strange mammal. The recovered body parts anatomically revealed:
- a body geometry consistent with a fast swimmer,
- an aquatically adapted mammal that had walked upright in its distant evolutionary past,
- strangely shaped head that very closely resembled early Human,
- large eye (socket) orbits, consistent with low light aquatically adapted mammals,
- a sonic melon on the forehead bone plates, consistent with those found in mammals for echo location functionality,
- five finger-like bones on each side in the recovered fleshy diamond-shaped tail-flipper, a structure not found in manatees, yet outwardly similar in appearance,
- hinged rib-cage and spine, consistent with deep diving mammals,
- large spleen, consistent with deep diving mammals,
- corpse DNA sample, the testing laboratory presumed had been contaminated as sample revealed Human DNA,
- an ancient (believed to be oldest Human cave drawings) of diamond shaped tail-flippered aquatically adapted Humans, consistent with the recovered tail-flipper the scientists found,
- photographs of Mermaids crawling out of deep-sea fishing nets, with webbed hands, similar in appearance to the webbed hand in scientists possession,
- anonymized on camera interview of gvrnmnt whistle-blower, revealed the US Nvy both knew about the Mermaids, but were also suppressing information about their existence, while their high-power ultrasound experiments were killing them,
- cellphone video of an injured Mermaid, taken by adolescent eyewitnesses. They found the Mermaid laying on a Washington beach adjacent to a beached pilot whale. The whale, one of those injured that died, believed caused by US Navy high-power Ultra-Sound testing in the open oceans. Was reported widely in the press, to have caused mass whale and dolphin beachings, all exhibiting ear blood damage, world over. The Nvy had indoctrinated the kids into 'believing' (convinced them to shut-up) that they had seen a sea-lion. They had both made drawings and a video recording that they did not share with the Nvy interrogators/indoctrinators. After all, they knew what they saw and videotaped no matter the coercion used to convince them otherwise.
That videotape is incredible to see. Believe me, its worth watching the entire documentary to view it.
Documentary was excellent. If you should have opportunity to watch it, I recommend doing so. It is excellent.
But the US Gvmnt, took their evidence, so what else is new?
In my neck-of-the-woods, documentary was aired on Discovery-Channel Sept 30, 2012 6 - 8 pm
Principal NOAA investigator: Dr. bob McCormick
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Post by plutronus on Oct 1, 2012 4:15:38 GMT -6
From: www.aaas-science.org 09-27-2012 Congress is cutting the Science budget... Dear Colleague, Unless policymakers in Congress can agree to a deficit reduction program by year's end, the federal government will automatically enact 8.9 percent budget cuts for all discretionary spending beginning January 3, 2013. These cuts, commonly referred to as "sequestration," were built into last summer's negotiations to raise the debt ceiling. As funding for almost all scientific agencies is classified as discretionary, the consequences of these cuts for the science and engineering community would be catastrophic. Sequestration's potential impact is laid out in detail in a new report from AAAS's Federal R&D Budget Analysis Program. Report: www.aaas.org/spp/rd/fy2013/SeqBrief.shtml This report lays out how sequestration will affect each science funding agency and what these cuts will mean for current and future research initiatives. I urge you to review this alarming analysis as soon as possible. In order to avoid these devastating cuts to U.S. research and development budgets, the President and the Congress must work in partnership to reach a consensus plan to reduce the deficit. Historically, funding for research and development has enjoyed bipartisan support, and I urge you now to contact your representatives and remind them of just how important strong support for science and engineering research is to the future health of our citizens, our community, and our economy. Our policymakers must all work together to find a resolution that will help move our nation forward without doing great damage to the U.S. science and engineering enterprise. For a list of contact information of Congressional leaders click here: www.contactingthecongress.org/Now, more than ever, we need you to raise your voice and join us in standing up for science and engineering. Together we can make a difference. Sincerely, Alan I. Leshner Signature Alan I. Leshner, CEO American Association for the Advancement of Science
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Post by plutronus on Sept 30, 2012 22:09:29 GMT -6
I wouldn't believe Icky if he stood on bibles.
In March 1991 he held a press conference to announce that he was a "Son of the Godhead" – a phrase he said later the media had misunderstood – and the following month told the BBC's Terry Wogan show that the world would soon be devastated by tidal waves and earthquakes. He said the show changed his life, turning him from a respected household name into someone who was laughed at whenever he appeared in public.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke
I do believe in shape shifters..I think the American Indian history of this is very interesting but lizards drinking blood? I'll watch that on V.. Hi,
I had not heard that story before, but I've heard others which were just as stinky. The one that really irritates me (and many others no doubt) is Icky's obsessive berating of the Masonic Order and his clueless merging of the Vatican's 'Illuminati Order', hah hah. "Illuminati" is an Italian word, not Hebrew or Egyptian. The two groups were enemies. The Illuminati, using the authority and power of the Vatican hunted and killed Masons, eventually killing the Knights Templars too. How's that for cooperation? The Devil promotin' Vatican which was the Christian religious authority for centuries. They were the authority who suppressed science and Mysticism, for centuries, not the Masons. Masons have always been at the forefront of science and medical advancements, activities that help Humans. Heck, its the Masons who created the conditions for freedom in the US and now that they are no longer in power, the US is falling apart. There's no integrity in gvmnt now. They lie to us about everything, they hide everything. They suppress the news, they suppress the war (unlike Vietnam). And the FDA? It pulls any new medicine that cures anything. For instance the cures for the common cold. Why ruin a perfectly profitable candy 'medicine' market ($2.9 billion Dollars) with a cold cure? Zicam being one. It worked. It worked for me. Its been pulled. We've become the United States of Corporate America... its about BMWs, Mercedes Benz, yachts, big homes on the beach....Dollars. Its only about us when it involves our wallets. In the US you are only as free as the size of your bank account. Yep.
>I do believe in shape shifters.
Me too, in fact, I've seen that process with my very own consciousness.
Anyone here see a Human shape-shift into a Reptilian? Anyone see any Reptilians? Lizards? The yellow eyes in the morning? Blink your eyes in a dark room upon first awakening, see the after-glow of the yellow eyes? How does all that work? Where do these monsters actually reside? Jacques Vallee refers to ET presence as the "Demon Haunted World"...
Humans are awakening, at least that's what all the Mystics have been saying these past 50 years or so. That Mother Earth is UpShifting. But along with awakening comes learning and those awakening from the slumber of darkness of the flesh, are being presented with new challenges. Yep, its the learning curve for the New-Age, the predicted Golden-Age.
As for drinking blood? Reptilians are noted meat eaters, --four Reptilians will eat a whole cow in one feeding. When eating Humans, they each eat four or five depending on their size. But they are not blood drinkers per se, as their bodies are not well suited for drinking. Their faces appear similar to the structure of that of a tyrannosaurus rex, a very toothy grin.. Then there's the Old Testament stories written in Sinatic Hebrew about the AnGeLs-of-Destruction over-flying early Human homes. About the Hebrews and how they learned to placate the Devils visitation along the ley-lines and the resultant eating of their children. Something which became through time known as the "Passover".
And the question was, 'how does Shape-Shifting work?'
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Post by plutronus on Sept 30, 2012 3:51:25 GMT -6
The question is whether or not that theory is correct. I've always thought that the oceans just slowly dried up and disappeared as Mars slowly lost it's atmosphere over millions of years. Since Mars is smaller than the Earth its crust would have solidified sooner and put a stop to the volcanic activity that was releasing gasses into the atmosphere. Without the volcanic replenishment the atmosphere would have gradually drifted away which would have allowed temperatures to become more extreme which would have gradually evaporated the oceans away. It makes sense to me anyway. I had never heard the idea about the giant lightning bolt. Is there any other evidence to support that or is it just a theory? I'll have to take a closer look at that giant Martian scar that you mentioned. Hi SkyWalker,
>Is there any other evidence to support that or is it just a theory?
I'm not an expert in this, I did read numerous scientists postings about the subject as I mentioned previously, --the discussion went back and forth quite a bit. However, if one looks at (clicks) the Valles Marineris link I provided in my previous post, the high resolution photograph there of the Mars ejecta channel, eg 'scar', its the same image that the JPL planetary scientists noticed which appears to be consistent with ejecta caused by intense lightening strikes on Earth. The ejecta channel is illustrated by the way the crust was 'channelized', is up-lifted along the length of the channel rim on both sides. It is this, that was the 'evidence' that the planetary scientists were yakking about. Also, you may notice that directly in the middle, there is apparently a blast crater. Some of the scientists believe, that is the point where the smaller planet exploded, while some argued that it was the initiation of the discharge exchange. In any case, many believed that the smaller planet breakup was caused by an inter-planetary lightening exchange.
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Post by plutronus on Sept 30, 2012 3:09:08 GMT -6
educate-yourself.org/cn/laurencegardnershapeshifter.shtmlDo you want to read about a man who says he watched Laurence Gardner shift into reptile form and drink various human blood. If not DO NOT READ THIS.
On the other hand, this is a wild tale. A lot of sci-fi flirts with the concept of shape shifters. What do you think??? Dear Paulette,
Thanks for asking..
Shape-shifting is not sci-fi. Sci-Fi is truncated from science-fiction. There is nothing science-fiction-esq about paranormal. As for Reptilians, its horror based, not science.
>by David Icke
I've come to learn that I can't believe anything that babbler says and that he'll malign anyone or anything to keep the Reptilian frenzy going just to sell books.
However, my nr 1 disdain for Icky, is his reliance of evidence-by-sentence-association that he uses for his assertion 'proofs', and the 2nd reason, he forgets where he finds his good data. Its simple, give credit where credit is due, don't plagiarize it for one's own. That really pi.sses me off.
I know someone who was "Icky's" room-mate for a time, and she has some fairly unpleasant things about him. Is there anything positive about this babbler?
Anyone know how Reptilian Shape-Shifting works?
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Post by plutronus on Sept 29, 2012 3:13:19 GMT -6
Yeah, we like to look at things from every possible angle. That way we don't miss anything. Harp,
Welcome to the board.
Sky & JoKelly...yep y'all said it well!
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Post by plutronus on Sept 29, 2012 2:04:17 GMT -6
Interesting. What I'm struck by now is that the astronomers who thought they saw canals and imagined (some of them) a dying race of Martians - well the Rover pictures clearly show conglomerate - a SEDIMENTARY (deposited in this case by water) rock formation of water rounded pebbles. Water ran on the surface of Mars, and an life forms no doubt gathered around the water as it oh so slowly disappeared. To be continued on a planet near you. (or yours) Hi Paulette,
Actually there is some controversy regarding just how Mars lost its oceans.
For many years I was a member of several private (by invitation) Jet Propulsion Laboratory e-mail reflector 'lists', which were hosted by folks (principal investigators...scientists). The 'Canals-of-Mars' list was a scientific techno-social forum list whose members, mainly scientists, discussed the technical challenges as well being a spring-board for creative ideas and the wishful planning to create instrumented probes for the study of Mars, "if only could extract some of the cash being pi.ss.ed-away on those ISS/Space-Shuttle funding hogs" they oft privately complained.
The members of the 'Canals-of-Mars' list, included planetary scientists, roboticists (Dr. Donna Shirley...the "Curiosity" is one of her rovers for instance) exo-archaeologists, exo-seismologists (Dr. Lysan at the Cern), exo-biologists, etc, discussed their theories, vantages and attempting to drum-up supporters of their working theories regarding their various Mars interests. These were truly fun crowd and very well informed.
One of the popular theories that was frequently discussed by the list scientists involved the Mars scar that spans appx 1/4 of the back-side of Mars. It is generally believed that during the period that Mars surface contained liquid oceans that another planet transited closely to Mars. So close that the two planets, being of different polarities, result of their separation within the solar-proton-flux of the solar-wind 'plasma' ('liquid electricity') streaming from the Sun, that it caused a very massive continuous 'lightening bolt' electric discharge exchange between the two planets. The Martian planetary surface discharge was so intense that it is believed to have created the huge ~2200 km/1300mi long (roughly 1/4 dia) (ejecta) channel known as the "Valles Marineris" (click to see photo).
The other planet was thought to have exploded, creating some of the mass (chunks), if not all?, of the asteroid belt. It is theorized that this violent inter-planetary electric exchange both super-heated, vaporizing into a column which vented into space vast quantities of Martian ocean water. Also the action of the discharge, Martian crust ejecta, blasted huge country size globules of water into space. It is believed that one of these globules was RADAR topographically detected by the classified US Military, a solar-system frontier-sensor space-vehicle, Clementine. The Clementine was temporarily declassified to reveal the finding of a significant scientific discovery. The frozen water globule was found within a huge cavern on one of the poles of the Earth's Moon. It is believed that the huge frozen globule originated on Mars.
In other words, if the electric discharge theory is correct, the Mars ocean did not slowly disappear, but rather was violently blasted into space in the span of minutes.
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Post by plutronus on Sept 28, 2012 13:38:29 GMT -6
[/color] Abductions by ‘Type 1’ aliens or ‘greys’ are becoming increasingly pervy, according to an eye witness. No longer satisfied with the data garnered from a simple anal probe, many are thought to be dabbling in increasingly bizarre fetishism. . . <<deletia>> . . CONTINUE READING: www.newsbiscuit.com/2012/09/27/alien-abductions-getting-pervier/[/size][/quote]Hah hah hah...that is efin great!! Hah hah hah...Oh AuntyM...
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Post by plutronus on Sept 28, 2012 1:44:35 GMT -6
I noticed that they cut to the ISS Command Center right as the plane went beyond the mountains. Perhaps they just lost sight of it with their cameras?
It was kind of hard to make out some of the "UFOs" although that one that went across the screen from left to right was pretty hard to miss. It seemed to come across level and then started to rise up towards the end. I think that would rule out a weather balloon or other stationary object. It definitely seemed to be something that was flying under its own power.
What are some other possibilities? Military drones perhaps? Were they using drones to shadow the plane and film the flight? That might need to be looked into, but if it was a drone that was flying across the screen why would the announcer say "Oh, my...?"
I'm taking a closer look at the people in the control room to see what their reactions are or if any of their behavior is unusual, which I assume it would be if an unidentified bogey suddenly started shadowing the shuttle. Nothing anybody did really grabbed my attention but then again maybe UFO sightings are common with NASA employees. Sky,
Aside from watching Mission Control people for 'signs' of suspicious behavior, I completely agree with your sentiments. While in my estimation everything seems to have prosaic explanations.
In my view, its just another classic UFO case of blurry splotches in video being deemed as Unidentified Flying Objects, because, well, that's what they are. Not alien mecha, not bugs, not balloons, not Venus, maybe birds? Maybe military chase-planes, or other military aircraft (at the moment, it was in an Airforce base air-traffic area) and unlike all the commercial airport air-traffic along the Endeavour flight route being grounded, Airforce base traffic was essentially business as usual.
And, I watched that segment 'live' on NASA-TV in HD on my 52" HD TV. That black thing moving across the screen? appeared to be a bird flying along, which was the impression I received at the time and frankly I did not hear the announcer say, "Oh my God" just prior to their switching from the Endeavor feed to the ISS MC feed. As for the supposition that the NASA commentator was yakking on LIVE FEED, that seems to be a presumption by claimants. Virtually everything in TV that is broadcast live is delayed to enable near-real-time editing (snip snip) of unexpected, unpleasant, or undesired scenes/audio from live source feeds, and NASA-TV is especially sensitive in regards to public PR. They candy-coat everything boys and girls.
All of the NASA-TV feeds were imaged by cameras aboard NASA-TV chase planes, there were no other feeds.
Also, most folks don't realize, that the when the Endeavor slipped behind the mountain range, they were beginning the over-flight route over the main sections of the classified areas of the PMTC, Pt Magu Naval Base, and a very short distance away as jets-fly, the main sections of Edwards Airforce Base. All no camera zones. So, there was no video over that area. As for NASA-TV 'suddenly' and without announcement, switching to the ISS Mission Control Room?, anyone who watches NASA-TV regularly, knows from experience that there is nothing unusual in that behavior. NASA-TV directors frequently switch back and forth between the mission control rooms for the programs/projects they monitor and televise, one example being the 'Curiousity' Rover program and another, is NASA's Wide-Area-GPS-Seismic program, etc. In this, the editor of the YouTube video is simply making an uniformed assumption in reasoning.
My Gf & I watch TW@N nearly daily. And frequently, I stay up all night doing certain types of engineering work (my own company) as there are no interruptions, and when I do, I tune NASA-TV for company...no commercials and everything is pure science related. My point being, there was nothing unusual that I saw, including those U.F.Objects. I too look for stuff, remember, I've seen alien mecha, up close, so I'm looking too, but frankly I did not see anything that warranted making comment about, aside from them not over-flying the Rocketdyne and the area Rockwell facilities and all the folks who worked on the Space Shuttle there! As for the awkward 'silence, because of no script", hah hah hah hah hah, I don't mean to be rude, but that just hits my funny-bone, hah hah.
Frankly, I would not waste any further time on this matter, because, even if there is something to it, which there very likely isn't in my opinion, what useful information could be gained?
1) event happened in a military air-traffic zone, 2) military won't release RADAR data, or any other data, 3) personnel in all of the attendant aircraft, are either NASA.gov employees, or US Airforce pilots, so there will be no forthcoming information from them either 4) no one on the ground, and there were lots of folks watching the Shuttle & carrier transport aircraft take off, seemed to notice anything unusual, including my friends who were there on the Sierra Hwy watching the takeoff, 5) the only information available, apparently, is more bad video of 'something'.
I can see why folks would think its interesting and worthy to persue even though I disagree about it.
Cheers,
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Post by plutronus on Sept 27, 2012 16:10:06 GMT -6
Well, if the sun does indeed have a companion star it is probably Alpha Centauri because that's the closest star to our sun, isn't it?
Hmmm... interesting... Hi LoreLei,
Thanks.
Well actually, I don't know. There are other possibilities that are not too obvious to those outside of the astrophysics arena. Perhaps we could inquire of our resident TEOR astronomer, Touched for his opinion on this matter?
I posted the sequence of URLs I was reading pertaining to the "Binary Star Theory" as it was an interesting web-thread that I followed while I was researching Swami Yogananda life history for a post that I'm planning for the TEOR, regarding one of my Mystical phenomenon experiences that I would enjoy sharing with ya'll. It was really kewl.
I found it interesting that the idea of Nibiru that's in 2012 ~ 2017 vogue originates from the same source material from which the "Binary Star Theory" was derived. The Rig Vedas of the Upanishads, which was written in one of the Divine languages, "Sanskrit". It is believed that Sanskrit was one of the Dragon languages 'spoken' in Sumeria. In any case, that is where the origin trail ends or...begins?
Scientists historically (past 300 years) do not generally believe the Rig Veda 'myths', as the only information in the Rig Vedas story which could be verified was that of the astronomical assertions that were made, including those stories of the binary-star/Nibiru story revealed in the Rig Vedas. That is until recently, as its been reported, that in all of the exo-solar systems (eg, other solar-systems outside of our solar-system, which are also relatively new discovery...within past 20 years), that in all of those systems, which host an 'Earth' sized planet, each of those systems also have planets that transit a binary star. While the number of solar-systems thusly found is small, meaning the evidence is statistically very small, it is non-zero evidence that Earth's Sun/solar-system, very likely also has a binary star relationship. And this is consistent with the Rig Veda factoid that asserts that Earth's Solar-System has a binary 'twin' which is co-transited by a 'shared' planet that is not normally present with-in the helio-centric boundary of our solar-system. The planet, which orbits TWO STARS which are greatly separated, namely 'our' Sun RA, and one another, the planet expends most of its existence traveling the vast black reaches of empty space between the two Suns, but when it passes through those the solar-systems, it likely reeks much magnetic and gravitic havoc. Gravity is the only physical force that alters reality, aside from Mind.
In physics, a molecule exists as result of sharing nucleus between atoms. In other words, (mainly) electrons (think of them as being tiny 'planets'), circum-navigate multiple nucleus (tiny 'stars') of adjacent atoms which forms the molecular 'bond'. That is exactly the description of the 'Binary Star Theory', on a solar-system size metric. An old Masonic dictum proprium, "As above, so below."
Couple these information with the fact that one of the most conscious people (a Perfect-Tree) on the planet (Yogananda's mentor, his literally his "Guru") read the Rig Vedas and derived His own postulation which has become known as the 'Binary Star Theory'. This is interesting and warrants, in my opinion worthy attention.
As I said earlier, I was reading about Yogananda when I learned of his Mentor Swami Sri Sriyukteswar Giri. I was doing this as I'm generally poor in remembering names and places, and I couldn't remember Yogananda's name or the place where I experienced a Mystical phenomenon.
Probably more of answer than you desired?
plutronus p.s. I am not Budhist adherent, nor of Eastern 'Vedisim', or a follower of Yogananada
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Post by plutronus on Sept 26, 2012 21:51:10 GMT -6
Hi,
All excerpts are quoted from enclosed URLs, please visit those, for the full text....
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Post by plutronus on Sept 25, 2012 11:22:01 GMT -6
No president can 'fix' the nation. There IS a government behind the government we know and love and
they make sure a president is elected who can be the proper puppet.
Disclosure is a joke...
voting for the fool of your choice..is a joke
...our political structure as it stands is a joke.
The wealthiest of the wealthy are in charge and we don't get a vote.
If the economy lags too badly...of course there will be another war
...there's always some country out there just waiting to be 'stirred' up by some dumb movie or if not that
...the right 'infiltrators' ratcheting up the youth.
And nope..things don't change...there are just degrees of political machinations and
should someone great come along and sneak in while their backs are turned..well..they'll punch his ticket before he can actually make a stand.
No conspiracy theories..this is the way it has been since the cold war..
democracy is the first big illusion. JoKelly,
Excellent. You have quantified my suspicions precisely.
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Post by plutronus on Sept 23, 2012 22:57:25 GMT -6
Yep...its juicy alright, a bit like a diaper.... :-)
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Post by plutronus on Sept 23, 2012 22:09:07 GMT -6
REPTILIAN ALIEN ABDUCTION w/ EXPERT JOE MONTALDO [/color] Uploaded by ArcturianStar on Sep 13, 2011 A MUST LISTEN TO FOR EVERYONE ! The most fascinating, juicy, hardcore insider information on the subject of alien abduction at the hands of the REPTILIAN EXTRATERRESTRIALS. A 1 1/2 hour audio archive with one of the worl'd top researchers on this subject, Joe Montaldo. This archive contains information rarely shared with the general public & Joe goes where most researchers are afraid to go. Joe is international director for I.C.A.R. the International Community for Alien Research visit I.C.A.R. at www.icar1.com& visit COSMICYOU at www.cosmicyou.us[/quote] Hi,
Hah hah...Montaldo may be some kind of an expert, but he's not about Reptilians.
I listened for about two minutes. Maybe he's a DIO? (DisInfo Officer).
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Post by plutronus on Sept 21, 2012 18:38:27 GMT -6
Hi All,
The Space Shuttle Endeavor is going to land at LAX International in about ten minutes (12:01 pm, Sept 21, 2012), here in Los Angeles (when I began writing this, its now evening, as I finishing this, so the time-line is a bit disjointed, ok?). Its been flying (mounted on top of the OVP1 B747 carrier aircraft) all over California. Yesterday they landed (Thursday) in Palmdale, a good friend of mine who lives out there, drove over and watched it land. The Endeavor went home for a night. They landed at Edward's AFB to (NASA Dryden Center) to refuel, and it spent the night. That's the facility where Rockwell constructed the orbiter. They took off at 8am, flew down along the coast to San Diego, flew back up the coast over-flying Malibu, Santa Monica, El Segundo, Westlake, Thousand Oaks, turned around flying back over the Los Angeles National Forest, out over North Hollywood, Burbank, Pasadena (over flew the Jet Propulsion Labs and CalTech), down to Anaheim, over flying Disneyland and then returned back towards LA. It is now over flying the Hawthorne, Inglewood area, giving everyone a good view of national engineering prowess.
Its a magnificent beautiful bird. The Space Shuttle is believed to be the most complex machine made by Humans, its truly an amazing machine.
Unfortunately, they did not over fly my neighborhood, even though much of those machines were engineered and-or manufactured by Rockwell facilities located within five minutes of where my Gf and I live. My Gf worked on the Space Shuttle Main Engines in Quality at Rockwell facility for over 20 yrs. The director of the American Space Station lives across the street from us, he was one of the main scientists who developed the Space-Shuttle systems. Everyone here in our area is miffed about this NASA over-sight. Not to mention, that in Hawthorne area of Los Angeles, the city has CUT DOWN over 400 of people's trees, so that they can transport the Space Shuttle to Exposition Science and Technology Park through the streets, rather than take down the traffic signals as the wings are 78 feet across, while the streets are 56 feet wide. They may have had no choice? To soothe the folks angers, the city has promised (we know how good their promises are), to plant four trees for every tree they cut down. Of course it will take another 20 ~ 30 years for those trees to grow back, that is if if the city actually keeps their promise. The Space Shuttle will be put on permanent display (250 years) in Exposition Park mounted on an Main-Engine Tank and two mock SRBs in the vertical position, as though the shuttle is being launched. Right now, the Space Shuttle is parked inside the United Airlines maintenance hanger at LA International Airport. Later, I'll post a few photos I took of the shuttle on my big-screen TV (some of the best shots available), as the event was covered live on NBC-Ch 4, they televised live without commercial interruptions since 7:30 am until the transfer ceremony at LAX was completed after landing here in LA California. It was a big deal here, hundreds of thousands of people came out to see the Space Shuttle. Los Angelinos have a tear in our eyes over this, one of our beloved Space Shuttles have come home.
I had opportunity to do contract work on the space-shuttle, via six different programs. Myself and my two business partners, we designed and constructed an in-flight, real-time Space-Shuttle Main Engine turbo-pump performance monitoring system. I designed the telemetry data-decommutator subsystem (using a modified Perkin-Elmer 3250 supercomputer and a CSPI Array Processor to do the heavy number crunching). My partners and I also wrote the BIOC device drivers and the operational mission monitor analysis software for the Rockwell SSME facility analysis system. The mission telemetry was down-linked from the National Space Transportation Laboratory Mission Flight Data Microwave Network which was piped to all of the Orbitor prime contractors who participated in the Space Shuttle program.
In January, 1986, my business-partner and I had been working around the clock at the Rockwell facility integrating the SSME telemetry system. It was complicated work, Lance was writing the BIOC, I was doing the electronics and integration and Bob was doing the math. We were attempting to have the system operational in time for the STS-51L Space-Shuttle launch planned in a few weeks time. I hadn't been home at all for nearly a week, I was catching cat-naps at the facility and I had finally fallen into deep sleep behind the racks. I was lying on the floor, one of the Rockwell engineers had kindly placed a moon blanket over me. I was lying on my face on the metal criss-cross false-floor on which the supercomputer was located and through which all the inter-rack cables and power-cords were routed, the stuff under the floor. All of it interconnecting to the six or eight racks of components of my system.
So, I'm snoozing back there, slobbering all over myself and I'm awakened to my partner, 'hey, wake up, wake-up, we got visitors...the astronauts are here!' So I get up, a bit groggy, I run my fingers through my hair, tuck my shirt into my waistband and I step out from behind the rack, and there, with several Rocketdyne senior-managers, are three NASA astronauts, Mike Smith, Dick Scobee, and Judy Resnick (very cute). So the Rocketdyne guys introduce Lance & I, we the subcontractors fabricating the SSME Turbo-pump analysis system, that the astronauts had flown down from Kennedy to see. We chatted awhile, but I started noticing that they were all glancing at me, at my face, and after few moments, Judy Resnick leaned over and whispered to me, (I was trying avoid her as I had not showered in over a week), she is leaning forward, and I'm leaning back, and then a grin she grabbed me on the shoulder to stop my motion, and she said, "Maybe you should go into the bathroom and freshen up?!" I thought, 'Oh my God! My fly is open!", I was so embarrassed...I went to the bathroom, <whew>, 'thank God, its not my fly!', but my face looked as though I had been sleeping on a waffle-iron, heh heh. I washed my face with cold water and things started looking more normal, but I did it quickly, as I didn't want to miss any time of the visit. When I came out, Mike Smith and Dick Scobee were chatting with my partner Lance about stuff, and I ended up having a one on one with Judy Resnick. She was a very smart gal, a Ph.D. type, she had worked for Xerox prior to joining the Astronaut Corp. She was interested in the technical details of our software, how the system worked. When they left, Judy gave to me her NASA Space Shuttle ball-park cap she was wearing. It has a silver stitched NASA emblem along with a Space-Shuttle on the front panel. I wore it almost until it was threads. I still have it, its one of my treasures. I have had many folks over the years offer me money for it, as only astronauts have these ball-park hats. Very few non-astronauts have them.
Sometime earlier than when we were working the NSTL SSME telemetry contract period, we had been working on a Rockwell DEW contract. I saw vision. I saw a large white boat in a black glass sea. I saw a white glove hand, reach up and pulled back on the throttle, of what looked like the throttle handle on my Dad's 32ft PlayMate II SeaRay cabin cruiser. Just as the throttle was being pulled, I saw what looked like a vertical stabilizer on a DC 7 airplane, it was all white too. I saw it explode into flames, and then I awakened from the dream. A year passed, I forgot about the vision.
On Jan 28th, 1986, I was at home, I awakened with a start, I knew what the dream meant...it was the space-shuttle!! I jumped up, flipped on the TV, and there, the Space Shuttle Challenger had just cleared the launch tower, with Judy Resnick, Mike Smith, Dick Scobie, Ronald McNair, Ellison Onizuka, Christa McAuliffe, Gregory Jarvis, the seven astronauts were arcing toward the blackness of space, "Challenger, you are go with throttle up", "Roger Houston, go with throttle up", at 73 seconds, the Challenger blew up.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-51L
It was a mind blower, for everyone in our company and for my two business partners, myself, and all the Rockwell/Rocketdyne people we worked with. For us, my partners and I, we had met those astronauts, ate lunch with them, while we worked within Rockwell/NASA family of contractors, day in day out for nearly three years on various contracts.
It was a mind-blower for me.
Instant loss of innocence, it was like losing members of our family, along with with a deep sense of National loss. Personally, I've never allowed myself to feel, to become so attached to something like that again, because it hurt so much. Watching the Endeavor Space Shuttle come to Los Angeles, brought back all those memories, for both my Gf and I. It was a big deal for us.
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Post by plutronus on Sept 18, 2012 9:19:16 GMT -6
I don't know about spiritual guide, but more like a warning . Many abductee's tell of watching a screen with earth disasters scenes for decades now. Sounds like a warning to me. If they cared nothing they would not show such things to us. A very early book I read a woman was shown just the opposite. A park with families in it. Some were having a picnic. Everything about it she stated in the book was so peaceful in this place. It resembled earth. It had green grass and trees. Blue skies. She said there was no sound about it. It could of been the Andresses Affair. Not spelled right here. I have not seen this book reissued ever? I guess one could order it. I enjoyed it very much this book. It was written like no other, as far as an abductee's experiences are told. If you have not read it .. read it. To her the aliens were not at all like some describe them. I think there must be different species watching us. It is about the only conclusion one could draw .. if they have read enough and all were true of course. Hi Lois,
I agree with some of your point, I too think its a warning, but I'm not sure that they care for us, beyond some level of mutual need. As for aliens guiding us, I believe that they are guiding us all right, for their benefit, as apparently they have been, seemingly, for at least several centuries. I think they allow us to do what ever we choose, provided that we don't interfere with their usage production. Or perhaps as some here suggest that there are different species with multiple, yet similar usage agendas, but with different interests, and perhaps there is competition between the various species, all for our resources whether that includes Humans directly or just something our world provides? Perhaps that could explain why they warn us, as they don't really can not harm us, due to different alien specie usage interests one of which might involve unharmed Humans?, or perhaps there is an oversight agency which has emplaced a general non-violence embargo?, but they feel that they must warn us to stop screwing up THEIR SUPPLY SOURCE, or there could be unseen sanctions imposed!!
Re; folks becoming more Spiritually aware as result of contact, I believe that such an occurrence is an accidental artifact of contact with a more dominate (read 'powerful') psi-field. Couple that with the likelyhood that their neurology is vastly different from that of our evolutionary neurology...our brains are constructed vastly different in comparison with theirs, while the psychic field is strong or perhaps its just very different, something like a nine-fingered hand being forcibly shoved into a five-fingered glove, (eg our brains), it just doesn't fit, and there is warpage as result. Everything is energized, but nothing is in sync while everyone, including them, realize weird cognitive distortions about in what we are all thinking about one and another.
The close proximity to them forcibly blasts open our psychic neuro-pathways (it causes open nerve-channels, which results in the nerve-current 'shhhhhhh' sound folks hear post-contact) into higher energetic (via the unbalanced Khundalini) conscious realms, because of their field dominance, elevating some folks normal awareness level, and in that sense, ET have 'awakened' a few folks, but I suspect its not intentionally directed, nor would it be for our benefit. The blasting never elevates enough to sufficiently awaken one to the full portent of the alien usage agenda for Humans/Earth. And then, the action of the blasting of the Human neurology frequently does so in a fully unbalanced and psychically unhealthy manner, as evidenced in some folks post contact behavior...the normal Humans who become the nuts. I believe that something similar to that happened to my poor Mother and it nearly happened to me too, but I had the loving aid of several very functional Mystics who rebalanced my psychic channels.
Lois, I think its a warning, 'shape up, or we're gonna shake the milk, breakup the culture...disrupt Earth's civilization' right back into the dark ages once again. Yep, and I suspect that's one of the reasons the military is so quiet, they got lots of data, and most of it points to a very unpleasant conclusion.
<arghhh>
But I pray, the remainder of the book author's notion, as well as those ideas of some of the others, are more accurate than mine, frankly. Who rationally wouldn't desire a more enlightened space-brother taking an active positive interest in helping us to resolve our Earthian problems in an non-intrusive noble manner?
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Sept 18, 2012 8:49:43 GMT -6
Post by plutronus on Sept 18, 2012 8:49:43 GMT -6
Ugh (to plutronus' answer to my question .
Please, tell me they are not "aware" in both places. . . Hi,
When one engages in telepathy with something, isn't one aware in both minds?
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Post by plutronus on Sept 18, 2012 8:44:04 GMT -6
Warp Drive May Be More Feasible Than Thought, Scientists Sayby Clara Moskowitz, SPACE.com Assistant Managing Editor Date: 17 September 2012 A ring-shaped warp drive device could transport a football-shape starship (center) to effective speeds faster than light. The concept was first proposed by Mexican physicist Miguel Alcubierre.CREDIT: Harold White HOUSTON — A warp drive to achieve faster-than-light travel — a concept popularized in television's Star Trek — may not be as unrealistic as once thought, scientists say. A warp drive would manipulate space-time itself to move a starship, taking advantage of a loophole in the laws of physics that prevent anything from moving faster than light. A concept for a real-life warp drive was suggested in 1994 by Mexican physicist Miguel Alcubierre; however, subsequent calculations found that such a device would require prohibitive amounts of energy. Now physicists say that adjustments can be made to the proposed warp drive that would enable it to run on significantly less energy, potentially bringing the idea back from the realm of science fiction into science. . . <<<deletia>>> . . www.space.com/17628-warp-drive-possible-interstellar-spaceflight.html Hi SwampRat,
The Alcubierre spacetime warp drive metric is: ds2 = −dt2 + (dx − vs(t)f(rs)dt)2 + dy2 + dz2
I've always been interested in Dr. Alcubierre's theory out of all of the great-distance-travel solution theories out there. Back when I was in the mix of NASA things, the Alcubierre theory was the only theory that seemed to have any merit that might be able to eventually be hammered into shape to 'work' while it seemingly fits the observational data too. ET are getting here somehow? And anyone who actually sees one of their craft exit, describes that something happens to physicality around the craft, while it commutes a 'psychic' quality in the experience also.
Another physicist (via a lecture at an SSE conference I attended in 2002) , whose name I don't recall, suggested that 'gravity' is consciousness of the mass, eg, the larger the mass, the larger the 'one cell brain' and commensurately the larger the consciousness 'field' exhibited. The 'current' of consciousness (appears in dreams as 'flowing-water') is psi according to secret Mystical school curriculum. And all of this is consistent with Qabalah dictum (proprium), "Where is God Not?", in other words, 'God' is the subtle force that exists everywhere, like gravity, and in theory, could be descriptions of the same thing. Gravity is the only physical force that is known to warp 'reality', an example being the metric distortion around the Schwarzchild radius...space-time, while Mystics are able to psychically warp physicality via the training of their minds. Its an interesting correllation.
Select additional Alcubierre info...
Miguel Alcubierre theory abstract on my SETV website: www.setv.org/refs.html#Alcubierre
Miguel Alcubierre on WikiPedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Alcubierre
Dr. Miguel Alcubierre's paper, should anyone be interested to actually read it
The warp drive: hyper-fast travel within general relativity Alcubierre, Miguel, 1994 lanl.arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/0009013.pdf
Proponents of the Alcubierre Proposal Conformal Gravity and the Alcubierre Warp Drive Metric Gabriele U. Varieschi, Zily Burstein lanl.arxiv.org/pdf/1208.3706.pdf
A `warp drive' with more reasonable total energy requirements (a counter argument to the 'unphysical nature of "Warp Drive"' by Pfenning & Ford listed below) Chris Van Den Broeck lanl.arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/9905084.pdf
Detailed study of null and time-like geodesics in the Alcubierre Warp spacetime Thomas Müller, Daniel Weiskopf lanl.arxiv.org/pdf/1107.5650.pdf
Warp drives, wavefronts and superluminality Eric Baird lanl.arxiv.org/html/physics/9904019
On the (im)possibility of warp bubbles Chris Van Den Broeck lanl.arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/9906050.pdf
Schwarzschild black holes can wear scalar wigs Juan Barranco, Argelia Bernal, Juan Carlos Degollado, Alberto Diez-Tejedor, Miguel Megevand, Miguel Alcubierre, Darío Núñez, Olivier Sarbach lanl.arxiv.org/pdf/1207.2153.pdf
Analysis of ``Gauge Modes'' in Linearized Relativity Richard A. Matzner, Mijan Huq, Alonso Botero, Dae Il Choi, Ullar Kask, Juan Lara, Steven Liebling, David Neilsen, Premana Premadi, Deirdre Shoemaker lanl.arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/9607031.pdf
Stability study of a model for the Klein-Gordon equation in Kerr spacetime Horst Reinhard Beyer, Miguel Alcubierre, Miguel Megevand, Juan Carlos Degollado lanl.arxiv.org/pdf/1206.5187.pdf
A Conformal Hyperbolic Formulation of the Einstein Equations Miguel Alcubierre, Bernd Brugmann, Mark Miller, Wai-Mo Suen lanl.arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/9903030.pdf
Induced scalarization in boson stars and scalar gravitational radiation Milton Ruiz, Juan Carlos Degollado, Miguel Alcubierre, Dario Nunez, Marcelo Salgado lanl.arxiv.org/pdf/1207.6142.pdf
Pseudo Euclidean-Signature Harmonic Oscillator, Quantum Field Theory and Vanishing Cosmological Constant Matej Pavsic lanl.arxiv.org/pdf/hep-th/9812123.pdf
Test-beds and applications for apparent horizon finders in numerical relativity M. Alcubierre, S. Brandt, B. Bruegmann, C. Gundlach, J. Masso, E. Seidel, P. Walker lanl.arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/9809004.pdf
Militants of the Alcubierre theory The unphysical nature of "Warp Drive" Michael J. Pfenning, L.H. Ford lanl.arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/9702026.pdf
Speed Limits in General Relativity Robert J Low lanl.arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/9812067.pdf
Quantum Inequality Restrictions on Negative Energy Densities in Curved Spacetimes Michael John Pfenning, L. H. Ford (Dept. of Physics and Astronomy, Tufts University) lanl.arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/9805037.pdf
Quantum effects in the Alcubierre warp drive spacetime William A. Hiscock (Montana State University) lanl.arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/9707024.pdf
A Superluminal Subway: The Krasnikov Tube Allen E. Everett, Thomas A. Roman lanl.arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/9702049.pdf
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Post by plutronus on Sept 15, 2012 10:18:41 GMT -6
"The SSE is an authentic scientific frontier phenomenology community, most everyone is an academic. At the conferences, one sees about 50% quantum physicists and the remainder, heh heh, are psychics...psi-intuitives (for JoKelly). Its a fascinating admixture of smart interesting folks. I suspect that ya'll would candy to the SSE conferences/journals...great resource too." Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=ufos&thread=2704&page=3#33463#ixzz25z4RY71r____________________________________________________ Yes, I would ;D. We're glad you're here, Plutronus . Thanks recently for difference between ET, EBE, etc. and who seems to show up on the astral plane. Makes sense to me. But what do you mean by orbs bi-locate? I have a guess, now that I just wrote that ( ) , but want to hear it from you. Thanks! JCurio,
>orbs bi-locate
Bi-location is a more sophisticated form of Astral-Projection. Secret Brotherhood Mystical Schools teach projection. Its easy to recognize when ya see it, one intuitively knows that something psychic has transpired.
Photo-Orbs and Luminous-Orbs both bi-locate, although photo-orbs have been summarily discounted as being simply air-born dust particles photographed out-of-focus. A clever ruse which Photo-Orbs mimic. I have conducted sufficient tests which demonstrate to me that additional study is required, as there does seem to be unexplained and curious phenomenon present, while the prosaic explanation remains consistent with other similar and known exhibitions of ET intelligence mimicry for stealth strategy. They hide from our sensory perception by using all manners of tricks and illusionary mind contrivances, such as Rutledge's "pseudo-stars", which employs isoluminosity, the perception that different objects displaying the same brightness seem indistinguishable from each other. Mimicry, is the primary reason seasoned ET investigators refer to ET as being the 'tricksters'. ET understand Human cognition very well. Oops but I wander, ad rem, back to the point...
In 1990, ET investigators affiliated with the Russian Institute for Advanced Studies, in a report, were the first to use the phrase 'bi-locate' in conjunction with luminous-orb analysis used to describe the ET mecha psionic exhibition of their usage of Human-like astral-projection. The luminous-orbs psychically appear to 'appear' and 'disappear'.
I prefer to use the 'bi-locate' phrase in lieu of 'projection' to avoid confusion, as most who know of the term 'projection' typically do not understand its depth of function or that there is more than just simply being out-of-control, out-of-body in the lower-realms of Yetzirah during lucid-dreaming. The phrase "Bi-Location" also gives a small glimpse of the function in the phrase itself.
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Post by plutronus on Sept 15, 2012 4:13:47 GMT -6
www.ghosttheory.com/2012/09/13/another-curiosity-ufo-sigtingAnother Curiosity UFO SightingSubmitted by Henry Paterson September 13, 2012 What qualifies as a UFO seen on another planet? Humans have been sending cameras to other planets for roughly forty years now. Some people believe that some of those cameras have given us new evidence of the unexplained. Bringing that series up to date is the Mars Rover, Curiosity. For a robot it would seem to be getting more attention than a Kardashian some days. Of course it takes a UFO to get us to notice it. Not the first unexplained image to come from Curio’s cameras, here is the newest. Until next week. ....Curiosity is on Mars, where pretty much everything we did not put there is unidentified. As to this object being an alien visitor? Or possibly a Martian craft? Mars Curiosity Buzzed By UFO? 2012 HD [/color] Published on Sep 12, 2012 by StephenHannardADGUK Strange object caught by Mars Curiosity, does this confirm that an extraterrestrial presence is indeed observing NASA's exploration of Mars, or is it a martian creature of some kind? Raw image data here: alien-disclosure-group-tv.ning.com/profiles/blogs/curiosity-buzzed-by-... Many thanks to Luis Renato Dueñes Torrelles for spotting this little gem. [/quote] Most folks don't typically realize the degree of news censorship, twisting of the facts, out-right lying, that is taking place in American Television. Most Americans are unaware for instance that there are multiple space-stations in orbit around Earth, with only the space-station that the American Powers-That-Be, desire Americans to know about is publicized. For instance, Robert Bigelow has two space-stations in orbit that he constructed. Having developed his own launch vehicles well before the current crop of Gvmnt approved launch vehicles. Bigelow's launch vehicles were low-launch cost, reusable vertical takeoff, from anyplace, such as an airport, as well as vertical landing, such as at an airport or someone's backyard. With the cost of The Space-Shuttle, Robert Bigelow was unable to get launch wavers, because, he believed (very smart guy), that his strategy would embarrass NASA and their heavy iron tax-payer hardware approach. Mr. Bigelow says that 'NASA' stands for, "No Access to Space for Americans". In any case, Mr. Bigelow was unable to acquire from NASA and-or US Gvmnt launch permissions. Same thing happened with SpaceEx, they had to construct their launch facility in the middle of the Pacific Ocean to do their testing. Mr. Bigelow was forced to take his space-stations to China, having paid them to launch his stations into orbit for him. Not a peep about that in the American TV press, although AW&ST magazine did include a one sentence announcement (which I read) of the achievement in 2008. They really pushed the limits of what they were allowed to say, undoubtedly. AW&ST are noted for doing so, it was they that cracked open the canister of lies that NASA/Gvmnt pumped out about the Columbia re-entry disaster. Did you all know that the astronauts knew that there was a problem with the wing (there were e-mails about the situation between astronauts and their family members on the ground)? Why wasn't the 75,000 NASA taxpayer salaried engineers alerted to the problem? Giving the engineering community the chance to save those American Hero's lives from the firey re-entry death they died? I heard that it was because the gvmnt did not want to distract the public from the Iraqi Invasion Plan.
Little or no gvmnt integrity remains since the Masons (quietly) exited power.
Mars is another similar situation, we hear next to nothing in the press about other country's space exploration, TPTB desire the tax-payers to stay focused on terrorism, war, low-frequencies, angry, instead of things that move Humanity forward, things such as the Japanese Martian probes, or Russian, or Chinese, or the French, etc. It would be good for America to get into positive competition.
Then there are those objects being 'sighted', we all know that the gvmnt lies about that stuff, but on Mars, it could be any number of things, including camera artifacts, digital data transmission artifacts, as well as other country's robotic probes (that US News was verboten to tell us about) coming into view exploring the planet, and as well as keeping track of what NASA's Curiosity probe is doing there and-or other natural unknown phenomenon, including alien mecha.
I would not be at all surprised to learn that the US Military also has frontier sensors operating around Mars. We know that the military has frontier sensors, just remember the Clementine, it was RADAR topo-mapping every square foot of the Moon's surface, when it discovered that huge ocean sized chunk of frozen Martian water.
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Post by plutronus on Sept 15, 2012 3:24:32 GMT -6
How tall was your friend Plutronus? Hi, I don't know the precise number, however, I'm 6ft - 1, while Warren as I recall is considerably taller than me, maybe 6 inches or more? All I know is he has many tall friends and when I drop over to his place, I'm typically the shorty in the crowd, I've come home with crick in my neck from all the up gawkin! plutronus[/size]
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Post by plutronus on Sept 14, 2012 5:36:49 GMT -6
I admit the UFO topic hasn't been investigated anywhere near as much as it should be, or if it has been those investigations and the results of them have been kept away from the public. There have been some serious people who have looked into it though and they have come up with some interesting results, which makes me wonder why nobody else is looking into it. Why would anybody waste their time studying ants and flowers and the mating habits of the blue-butted fruit fly when there is a real mystery that could totally revolutionize scientific thinking staring them right in the face? Is it peer pressure that causes them to stay away? Pressure from the government? What else could it be? I don't understand why more people aren't interested in these types of unexplained phenomenon, whether it be UFOs or ghosts or whatever. The Marfa Lights is a good example of a real unexplained phenomenon that actually exists and can be proven to exist by anybody who goes out there and looks at the darned things yet there isn't a scientist in sight who has the slightest bit of curiosity about them. The starchild skull is another example. The scientific tests that have been done on that skull and the unusual results that have so far been found should have every scientist on the planet crawling all over that skull but instead they seem to be more interested in staring at the blue butt of a flying bug. That makes no sense to me at all. Whatever it is that is keeping the scientists away from the UFO topic isn't going to be changed by an exhibit in a museum though. The negative reputation UFOs have gotten over the past fifty years is too ingrained throughout society. Everybody seems to think it is a joke. At least this guy is taking it seriously. I have to applaud him for that at. What really annoys me about all of this is the way these so-called serious researchers look down on us "amateurs" and criticize the work that we are doing when the only reason we are doing it is because they refuse to. <<< Why would anybody waste their time studying ants and flowers and the mating habits of the blue-butted fruit fly when there is a real mystery that could totally revolutionize scientific thinking staring them right in the face? Is it peer pressure that causes them to stay away? >>>Good question. Why study ants instead of ET? Interest. Left hemi's aren't interested to think about right hemi ideas. ET subject isn't interesting to the left hemi's and statistically there are more left hemi's than right hemi's being born. This is an element in the abduction control-loop "tuning".
<<< What really annoys me about all of this is the way these so-called serious researchers look down on us "amateurs" >>>
The criticism is at times by caused by those amateurs who play at doing science, while nothing is more grating to a person who suffered 6 to 12 years of academic school torture to become an authentic investigator, than to have a non-schooler, or a low-schooler (high-school & maybe an associate degree and or even a BS degreer) doing 'research'. While often its found in UFOology, that many of the ET believers/knowers who transform into investigators, its learned, who have not finished high-school, who are doing UFO 'research'.
<<< ....and criticize the work that we are doing when the only reason we are doing it is because they refuse to. >>>
Nature of the beast. Until the curve is oriented in our favor, we must ignore the naysayers and focus on what we must do, while doing the best that we can.
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Post by plutronus on Sept 14, 2012 4:43:23 GMT -6
Actually I'm not talking about 'hybrids' or 'walk-ins', both are something I have a problem with believing..sort of like star-seeds I think they are something people would like to be, as most of us would like to be something more in our lives than we are..more exotic than just ole humans who have to work for a living. Being an alien cross or a walk-in..sure beats being someone's chauffeur to little league Charles has it right. I was suggesting an area to explore the different races and accounts from others of them. I see no reason why that couldn't include the hybrids and walk ins if it's something others would like to investigate too.. Allegedly..there are some 60 races that visit here..I was thinking of sort of a listing of them and those who have encountered them. I'd like to encourage Spotless to post in this section too because he has some past life alien memories I would love to hear about. What were these 'aliens' like. Maybe 'alien species' category Sky? or something along those lines. Adding to Jarmen and Lorelei..I've been way overly sensitive too lately. Must be some planets kicking up a trine or something JoKelly, Re; Walkins <<< Actually I'm not talking about 'hybrids' or 'walk-ins', both are something I have a problem with believing... >>> I have a good friend who is functionally very psychic. He was born that way. After school, it was his dream to become a military pilot, but was too tall to qualify, so instead he earned his private wings. He joined the Navy to stay out of the ground war in Vietnam, but while in the Navy, it was determined that he had a propensity for seeing patterns with unique ability to solve complex scheduling problems, and was cross MO'd to cryptography. (this is an interesting story in of itself). After being transferred to crypto he attended forty-eight months of crypto-schooling and testing before being assigned crypto tasks. After retiring from the military, he went back to school to become an attorney, but did not complete training, instead, dropped out having met (yep) a babe, who demanded much attention, and so, here is a Navy cryptographer, a private pilot, 1/2 trained as an attorney. He got a job as a paralegal for an aircraft law firm in Santa Barbara California. The point in all of this, is to establish that Warren is a sound person, well rounded, and very smart. One day, his beloved wife of twenty-five years in the course of 12 hours, their lives changed. They crawled in for the evening and in the morn, she awakened strange. She moved out of the bedroom, into a guest room in their large home. After about a week, she quit her job of 15 years, dyed her hair from black to bright orange, threw out all of her 'normal' clothing, began wearing blue-jeans and tank-tops to go partying. She would not talk to Warren, and just before she moved out, permanently, they had a talk, she informed him that his wife was no longer around, and that she had taken over her body. His was gone. This is a form of murder, only the life of the nefesh (body) is not terminated. This is a walk-in. Re; "Hybrids", I suspect, that like you JoKelly, I am not at all certain that I believe this notion, however, it may be the ONLY strategy that can enable true interspeciel understanding between advanced neurological specie. kalem-tah nit-ot-ohk Eagle Cmdr, Ashtar Cmd sirius b
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Post by plutronus on Sept 13, 2012 3:59:53 GMT -6
“But I feel strongly that the (UFO) story has not been covered properly, and that not a lot of true science or analytical thought has gone into it.” SkyWalker commented:
There has been plenty of "true science" and "analytical thought" put into the UFO phenomenon. This guy just doesn't know it because he obviously hasn't been studying the subject for years and years like many people in the ufological community have. All he has ever heard about are the hoaxes and the silly "little green men" stories that the news media sarcastically reports. It makes me wonder just how qualified he is to be putting on an exhibit about UFOs if he knows so little about the subject. That doesn't mean he shoeldn't do it though. Any time anybody takes this subject seriously it is definitely a good thing. <<< Quote src: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=literature&thread=2735&page=1#ixzz26KpqZ4VF
And when it comes to UFOs, like most reasonably intelligent people, the retired Navy commander [Palmer] would prefer an independent inquiry to a laughably outdated government fact sheet.
“Well it is a little risky, because we’ve got something of a reputation to uphold,” says Palmer, whose remarkable Museum in Las Vegas routinely displays loaner material from the Smithsonian. “But I feel strongly that the (UFO) story has not been covered properly, and that not a lot of true science or analytical thought has gone into it.” >>>
SkyWalker,
Things may not be as they appear. Palmer is apparently a fairly smart guy, probably knows know more about the subject than he can openly admit, as most are forced to quiet who are in the general public view.
However, I also tend to agree with Palmer's statement. Unfortunately, and truth be known, there has been virtually little science applied to known non-UFO (meaning while object origin is unknown, it is known by its behavior to be not-from-around-here...ie, Earth made) objects. This state is a genuine problem. In today's science thinking ET subjects aren't just laughable, but are non-existent in science thought. Take the study of any subject, ants for instance. How much would Humanity know about ET subjects, if ET objects had been studied as often and by as many researchers who have studied ants? I can almost name **ALL** of the scientists who have studied ET on one hand. How many hands would be required to count the researchers throughout history who have studied, ants, or daffodils or automobile exhaust emissions, or the diversity of snowflakes by comparison? Viewed in this context, how does Palmer's statement appear? Taken in the vantage of how science really works, UFOology, by comparison, statistically, is an unstudied subject but which has a small dedicated contrail of sighters and believers.
I wish that things were different, and as I've mentioned elsewhere, the hemispheric issue is a significant one, with this being one of its many effects. The left hemis are the scientist types.
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Post by plutronus on Sept 12, 2012 19:46:21 GMT -6
Thanks for posting that Plutronus. I didn't think of posting it myself either even though I've known how to do that since I was 7...
On an apple/mac computer it's the same key command but it's "command" z... it means "undo".
Control C is copy, control p is print, control v is paste etc... I didn't know that about Macs...thanks.
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Post by plutronus on Sept 12, 2012 18:14:32 GMT -6
Sky Portal Appears Over Arctic Facility 2012 HD Published on Sep 10, 2012 by DrHumanAlien Strange event reported this week about a possible portal or wormhole, appearing over an Arctic Facility. Phenomena was witnessed by multiple people, who seem unshaken by the event, as they claim this kind of thing happens all the time in that region. Some claim its a natural event, while others have stated they believe it to be a military weapon of some kind, possibly HAARP related. Phenomena lasted about an hour before disappearing. This is the only information I was sent by a subscriber, if you have any info then please private message me and I will add it to the description, include links if you can. Thanks. ADG Facebook: www.facebook.com/pages/Alien-Disclosure-Group/189249627773146Follow ADG on Twitter: twitter.com/ADG_UK
As usual, AuntyM has again whetted our whistles.
Anyone know where the photo was taken? By whom? Or when?
The photo looks a bit like a lenticular or 'pancake' inversion with the thermal up-well shafts being visible, if so, these are a known natural thermal meteorological structure, taught in college meteorology curriculum.
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Post by plutronus on Sept 12, 2012 1:17:34 GMT -6
ANOTHER EMAIL THE GUN SLINGER[/color] An old prospector shuffled into the town of El Indio, Texas leading a tired old mule. The old man headed straight for the only saloon in town, to clear his parched throat. He walked up to the saloon and tied his old mule to the hitch rail. As he stood there, brushing some of the dust from his face and clothes, a young gunslinger stepped out of the saloon with a gun in one hand and a bottle of whiskey in the other. The young gunslinger looked at the old man and laughed, saying, "Hey old man, can you dance?" The old man looked up at the gunslinger and said, "No son, I don't dance... never really wanted to." A crowd had gathered as the gunslinger grinned and said, "Well, you old fool, you're gonna dance now!" and started shooting at the old man's feet. The old prospector, not wanting to get a toe blown off, started hopping around like a flea on a hot skillet. Everybody standing around was laughing. When his last bullet had been fired, the young gunslinger, still laughing, holstered his gun and turned around to go back into the saloon. The old man turned to his pack mule, pulled out a double-barreled 12 gauge shotgun and cocked both hammers. The loud clicks carried clearly through the desert air. The crowd stopped laughing immediately. The young gunslinger heard the sounds too, and he turned around very slowly. The silence was deafening. The crowd watched as the young gunman stared at the old timer and the large gaping holes of those twin 12gauge barrels. The barrels of the shotgun never wavered in the old man's hands, as he quietly said; "Son, have you ever kissed a mule's *bleep*?" The gunslinger swallowed hard and said, "No sir... but...but I've always wanted to." There are a few lessons for all of us here: *Don't be arrogant. *Don't waste ammunition. *Whiskey makes you think you're smarter than you are. *Always make sure you know who is in control. *And finally, don't screw around with old folks; they didn't get old by being stupid. I just love a story with a happy ending [/quote] Hah hah hah! Thanks....
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