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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2012 6:58:59 GMT -6
You don't have to prove anything to him Cliff. There is no need to do so. He is not worth the effort. He doesn't like anyone who respects this country and its national defense because he's an anarchist. He is also a coward for not showing us his real face- and yet he expects us here to show him our faces. I had a feeling it wasn't him- because he's a coward. Only a coward would talk down to women the way he does. Only a coward would attack someone whom he does not know. He is less than a man and he feels the need to prove his masculinity by being a bully. UFO4peace- I thought you were leaving? lol... Once again- you have lied to us! What a shocker! And yet you go around calling other people around here liars when you do it all the time.... hmmmmmmm... lolz... ;D ;D ;D ;D Keep your promise this time. Go away. You claim you hate it here. Leave. Go. Get out. Bye bye. Adios. If Jo leaves, I leave. For good this time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2012 7:00:20 GMT -6
Thank you Morgan.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2012 10:06:37 GMT -6
Done..and hopefully just something to put behind us. That guy had every chance to get along and just couldn't manage it. I'm sorry he couldn't fit but there comes an end to all patience eventually. Thank you Sky for eliminating a problem.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2012 13:26:38 GMT -6
As for Lorelei's tarot card reading, forums seem to constantly succumb to our base nature . I am so glad that an effort is made to correct this, here! ;D ;D
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Post by Steve on Jun 23, 2012 13:59:52 GMT -6
WTF! What is going on here?.....ROFL. That picture is supposed to be me? Not! Consider who posted it, and is about as accurate with his other posts as well....U4P is consistent if nothing else is. Why the personal attacks?...I have never attacked you. ROFL again.
U4P is a wanna be. 300 cases you say you have done?...where?....reading Dick Tracy comics?
There is so much here to catch up on, and shaking my head grinning. Thanks all my good friends here for defending me. I would be here more, but working on an abduction case in Washington state now. Some curcumstantial evidence of time shifts too. Witness stuck bad in traffic several times they claim arriving at work on time when they should 45 minutes late.
History Channel called me too about a cattle mutilation case I investigated that predates the lady snippy 1967 case by three years, more importantly....has a witness that saw the Ets, cattle, and UFO at same time, making a direct connection. Guess after talking about it, someone outside of mufon finally noticed.
I love you guys.
U4P bubb, maybe you should consider a rabies shot. Maybe consider taking a bath once in a while too while your at it. Get laid orsomething! ;D
Talk more when I read and figure this all out. Fasten your seat belts, its going to be a bumpy night... ;D
Holly cow!
Most important, forgive me for my absense, I missed you all dearly. Except U4P of course....lol who ever he was.
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Post by auntym on Jun 23, 2012 15:22:55 GMT -6
Goodbye ufo4peace! ;D ..... HALLELUJAH.... ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2012 20:18:21 GMT -6
There is so much here to catch up on, and shaking my head grinning. Thanks all my good friends here for defending me. No problem Steve. We love ya! ~hugz~ I would be here more, but working on an abduction case in Washington state now. Some circumstantial evidence of time shifts too. Witness stuck bad in traffic several times they claim arriving at work on time when they should 45 minutes late. Woah... you're investigating a case outside of California? Hmmmm... well it'll be a nice change of scenery methinks... I am looking forward to reading about this new case! History Channel called me too about a cattle mutilation case I investigated that predates the lady snippy 1967 case by three years, more importantly....has a witness that saw the Ets, cattle, and UFO at same time, making a direct connection. Guess after talking about it, someone outside of mufon finally noticed. I agree. Holy Cow!! Are you gonna be on TV now? ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Steve on Jun 25, 2012 18:49:00 GMT -6
There is so much here to catch up on, and shaking my head grinning. Thanks all my good friends here for defending me. No problem Steve. We love ya! ~hugz~ Woah... you're investigating a case outside of California? Hmmmm... well it'll be a nice change of scenery methinks... I am looking forward to reading about this new case! History Channel called me too about a cattle mutilation case I investigated that predates the lady snippy 1967 case by three years, more importantly....has a witness that saw the Ets, cattle, and UFO at same time, making a direct connection. Guess after talking about it, someone outside of mufon finally noticed. I agree. Holy Cow!! Are you gonna be on TV now? ;D ;D ;D Saw the Casebook post about me and the missing cases. They mention us in this forum as being loony bins....lol. They also mention this really hot babe up in Alaska as a moderator here...giggles, that would be our wonderful Lorelei. That's nice. The news in the Case book post is very very old stuff, they are just learning this? I am happy Dave MacDonald is in charge. Mufon may even start doing case analysis! My God! So perhaps things are going in a good direction. It would close a huge 'open loop'. Maybe now Mufon will not be still stuck in 1969? Many people formerly in Mufon have claimed missing cases, I am humbly just one among many claiming this. Just somehow someone stumbling onto that old post. Sounds like U4P. Shrug, so what. Mufon deep down I think is a good organization, just some of the past and present old fart big egos need to be scrapped. Don't organize and over plan, and create layers of bureaucracy, simplify....find out instead what the UFO phenomenon is doing instead. What a concept. If I seem critical of mufon at times, is because we all are really seeking the same thing, and think some fixes should be suggested. Many have told me how amazed they are I did not criticize Mufon more after what a few guarding their castles did to me. If I did, I would become like them. Got more important things to do. And no, I will NOT be on television. That is not me at all. I have been on television twice, you can only answer in 10 second sound bits usually, and you feel a little afterward like you walked in front of your homes picture window naked ans all your neighbors saw you. No thank you. I have been working on the book, and being there for my wife at her Dads loss, a very great university professor and engineer. So if I seem busy, I am as always....just not in my usual pattern. I seem to attract more attention when I disappear....no one except our good friends here seemed to read my posts before that.... Love you guys. U4P gone? Wonder who he was really...... Steve
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2012 20:29:54 GMT -6
What do you mean casebook? On the MUFON forum? lolz... so someone thinks I'm a "hot babe"? They've obviously never seen pictures of me... lolz... ;D I'm not a moderator anymore though. I closed my moderator account because I realized I couldn't be impartial with certain individuals like... you know who...
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Post by skywalker on Jun 25, 2012 20:43:47 GMT -6
You know who isn't here anymore...and you are welcome to have your moderator position back any time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2012 20:49:53 GMT -6
You know who isn't here anymore...and you are welcome to have your moderator position back any time. Nahh... I think you guys have got it covered. I'm too hot-headed.
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Post by skywalker on Jun 25, 2012 20:58:05 GMT -6
Hot-headed? Hello? Have you ever met auntym and Jo and me? We're as hot headed as you can get. Spotless is the only one who has any patience.
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Post by lois on Jun 25, 2012 22:20:45 GMT -6
I have lots of patiences See I knew he would be back as I said he loves us here. Steve.. The show would seem exciting to be on TV. but the money it cost to air one commercial is unbelievable.. I guess one would not be given ample time for answering any questions.. Larry King even runs them through like goats to me. A good read would be nice.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2012 10:11:55 GMT -6
I'm sorry for your loss Steve (your's and your wife's)..and I'm sorry you had to come back to that. Sheesh Sky I thought I showed amazzzzzzzzzzing patience with U P..oops U4P...choking a bit. Take the mod back Lorelei in case I explode and need a vacation ;D It's not like this forum actually needs moderators anyway...we just prod Sky with pitchforks Auntie does have hostile moments too and Sky has been known to turn purple..it's a very human thing I hear Yep..Spotless is the only true soul of patience..or he sleeps a lot or he has some kind of beverage we all need to partake of ;D Seriously...P left because no matter what we tried..he didn't get it..he couldn't NOT insult others on his way. We all tried..and he had many a fair shot at being worth skin and Sky's agonized over it a time or two. He'll find a way to sneak back they always do.
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Post by spotless38 on Jun 26, 2012 10:22:01 GMT -6
Hot-headed? Hello? Have you ever met auntym and Jo and me? We're as hot headed as you can get. Spotless is the only one who has any patience. LOL . You don't know me that well . I am a Libra and when my scale tilts LOOK OUT ! I lke to fish and they say give a fish enough line . Then hook him . ;D Thats what I was going to do the day Morgan asked Woodstock to give him the big boot . Thanks Sky for the complement spotless
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Post by paulette on Jun 26, 2012 10:57:20 GMT -6
Amazing. I missed this whole thing. I personally have never wanted to go to a gathering that was, say, providing a talk on growing squash, and then stand up and interrupt and question what the speaker actually knows what he's/she's talking about and if there even are squash....I mean, if you don't like squash and talking about squash nicely, why attend? OK so my metaphor breaks down in that one can produce a squash (although someone else might disappear it or deny it or make the meeting so unpleasant that people go home.)
Which (now I remember one of my points) is the PROBLEM with physical evidence in UFO cases. Sometimes there IS some. Some photos that are not photoshopped (especially early one when there was no means of sophisicated image manipulation). People have had their hands on material that they assessed as unearthly (the Rosewell "weather balloon" flexible metal with strange symbols on it.) Witnesses have passed lie detector tests. But because this hard evidence often disappears, we are left with shaky cell phone recordings, witnesses who may or may not have had an experience or embelished on what happened. So when UFO4peace yells "show me the evidence" we mostly cannot.
Why do people want to raise a little hell? Well because no one is listening to them elsewhere. There MUST be forums that are based on the premise of debunking UFO stories. Oh wait...that was UFOmania. Well there must be others. Although when one thinks about it, it is somewhat eerie to put a lot of life energy into something you don't believe it. Like, a society of people who hate cats as pets, or, vegans who spend all their time talking about people who eat meat. I don't know where or if these groups exist either. I do think that whatever one is DRAWN TO has some significance to a person. One is not neutral (indifferent). So people who steal stuff want the stuff or the power it brings. (when they don't feel it afterwards they steal some more). I personally wonder what happened to a person who is desperately trying to prove that something didn't happen, can't happen, and CERTAINLY couldn't happen to THEM. Hmmm...as a therapist when people say something like, "But I don't want to talk about that" I know that they certainly DO want to. Talk about that.
Having a brush with the unknown and unacknowledged can have lifestime effects. Most of us here would agree to that. Somewhere along the line, I'm guessing that UFO4peace got a glimpse of something outside his box.
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Post by auntym on Jun 26, 2012 11:31:53 GMT -6
Hot-headed? Hello? Have you ever met auntym and Jo and me? We're as hot headed as you can get. Spotless is the only one who has any patience. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2012 13:17:23 GMT -6
Wellllllll I AM a Leo and a redhead..so a skosh of temper might come with the package on occasion ;D I'm usually more inclined to fight with razor tongue than razor blade but I'll own up to a temper. I think Sky and Auntie and I could make you look tame Lorelei LOL and I'd say Spotless could get in his licks too were he irked enough. So..you may as well come home to roost
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2012 16:05:37 GMT -6
~hugz Jo~ Alright. You guys have convinced me. I'll re-open up my MOD account I guess... ~shrug~ I just got off the phone with dad's dietitian. She says he's not eating enough (I've been telling him this for weeks and trying to force him to drink protein powder dissolved in milk). Malnutrition is one of the biggest problems of people on dialysis... and dad says he "doesn't care" and that it "is not worth it" so whatever... I've been a little depressed lately... but I'll get over it I suppose. I just weighed myself. It seems I've lost 20 lbs. I want to say stress induced lack of appetite... which is not a bad thing considering I could stand to lose a few more pounds... although the nausea I've been having has been annoying... of course the shot of whiskey I just had to calm myself down did not help any with that problem... that was a smart thing to do eh? Canadian whiskey on a nauseated empty stomach... Paulette... I don't think he disbelieves in the UFO phenomenon. He just decided he didn't want to believe any of us here for some reason... I think he only wants to listen to the cases which he would like to believe in. He has this idea in his mind of what this phenomenon is all about- and if anyone disagrees with him or tells him they had a different experience he won't listen to it- rather he just plugs up his ears and says, "lalalala!" Back to housework I suppose...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2012 16:12:25 GMT -6
Actually...he struck me as someone very much on the fence who wanted someone to be able to convince him. Can't do it. We operate on our own brand of faith..not on evidence. We have to stretch to believe in the random evidence there is and he couldn't make that stretch and he got mad when the rest of us could. I'd say he does believe...but he needs the proof that he's right in his belief. It's just not there yet. I KNOW what happened to me..I just don't KNOW what actually happened Maybe I'm just very good at lying to myself Lorelei I'm so sorry to hear about your dad declining..and the way he's feeling but I do understand it. My husband informed me today that he figures he's had 4 heart attacks in the last two weeks..that it's taken 4-5 nitro to stop the chest pain. It has a two fold effect on me. I want to beat him over the head for being an idiot and it makes me furious...and it makes me wonder if aliens have stolen his brain...because no one with a brain would do that to themselves when they have V.A. medical. Only this can I say Lorelei..you can suggest..wheedle and prompt but like me, we can't force another to do anything they don't want to do. I know it's hard..but hang in there and just plaster some silly smile on your face and go with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2012 18:40:26 GMT -6
Great post, Paulette! ;D And I'm so glad you're feeling better! I want to caution both you and Jo not to "overdo" now that you're feeling better . All that stuff you did the other day, Paulette, looks to me like you need to spend another day in bed! ;D Whenever I go gangbusters in one day that's what happens to me anyway . The next day I'm "resting" . Sorry about your father-in law, Steve. I want to ask questions like, was it sudden, was he in pain, and it really doesn't matter. He's gone. I pray that G_d will soon send some sort of blessings your way to help close that yawning gap. I said "help". Lorelei, whether you're moderator or not, don't ever quit posting, my friend ;D. I'm glad for the decision you've made. . And try to get your dad to drink ensure, or even pedialyte. Pedialyte of course disguises as water . One thing about depression, as you know, there's sometimes something about it that fights getting well. Heck, even slimfast has some nutrients. Your dad should have the desire to get better if he feels better. Its just hard getting to that point. Last but not least. Whoever that guy was, he was unsuccessful, here ;D . This forum is still intact and sounds better than ever
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Post by Steve on Jun 27, 2012 10:04:54 GMT -6
What do you mean casebook? On the MUFON forum? lolz... so someone thinks I'm a "hot babe"? They've obviously never seen pictures of me... lolz... ;D I'm not a moderator anymore though. I closed my moderator account because I realized I couldn't be impartial with certain individuals like... you know who... So glad your back as moderator. Been there and done that, and it is not easy, and prefer in my station here be be axactly where I am, but your station as moderator is different from mine in the past. You are a good moderator here hon. As are all our moderators here. A good moderator does not restrict the flow, mere channels the water into the fields where the crops will grow best. Your are also astute to see when some one is deliberately trying to poison that water. You were and are impartial. You are confusing impartiality with early insight able to see a possible coming storm. U4P has failed again, and we stand resolute and faithful to our original thoughts and principles in this forum, tolerance, compassion, intelligence, and understanding. Churchill said... In war - resolution, in defeat - defiance, in Victory, magnanimity, in Peace - good will. Steve
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Post by jarmen71 on Jun 27, 2012 19:30:08 GMT -6
Not to break the flow of conversation, however, I come from multi-generational abductions. My grandmother, my mother, me and now my children.
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Post by Morgan Sierra on Jun 27, 2012 19:35:30 GMT -6
Welcome Jarmen. You aren't breaking the flow of anything here. We were just cleaning up a little mess that we had to deal with. (one of the few that we have ever had here.) Hopefully now we can get this thread back on topic. We would love to hear your stories.
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Post by jarmen71 on Jul 14, 2012 19:58:09 GMT -6
Thank you ;D Once I find my journal, I will be able to share more. Thank goodness I had the right mind to keep one since my memory fails me now.
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Post by sunbow on Jul 19, 2012 18:31:58 GMT -6
When my dad's mother was a little girl around 1900 in Italy, she ran away into the mountains. She sat at a well and was approached by the most magnificent and splendid wold, who sat with her and kept her company. After she sat with the wonderful creature, she decided to return to the town. yes she was in big trouble (nothing new in her life), but also everyone was extremely worried. (the town was a stone mountain village with less than 200 people). After hearing this story, I bought her a wolf calendar: she was horrified at the ugly beasts. She made me take it out of her house. I asked about the wolf at the well. Oh No, she told me. It was much taller and stately. It didn't look like any of these??? It was a wonderful and wise??? She was also the one with psychic 'gypsy' ideas and stories. Wish I had talked more about such stuff with the others of that generation, but the topic was not obvious.
I have four brothers. Two of them have had consciously remembered clear sightings and possible missing time involved.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2012 23:07:56 GMT -6
I wish you had listened more too Sunbow
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Post by randy on Jul 25, 2012 12:26:11 GMT -6
I and my sister were abducted and we have good memories of these events as to when and where. We are unique in that the abductions did not involve a UFO that flew away but involved rather a stationary base that we can go to and stand on top of. My sisters kids know that they have been involved with aliens as well. My sisters grand kids are small yet but the oldest boy at times talks about stars. planets and does some really strange things like walking over to the wall of an old mansion they were touring and opening up a hidden panel in the wall. he seemed to be talking to someone then laughed and opened up the wall panel. My kids treat aliens as part of life no big deal. My grandkids are mostly too young to be talking yet. I would guess by now thousands of humans have been abducted by the greys in the Novato base. Why these folk have not talked about it is odd but maybe the greys are better at covering up. I set my mind initially that I would remember from the start. This self suggestion from the start may have made remembering easier for me
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Post by skywalker on Jan 22, 2014 21:12:39 GMT -6
Jcurio wanted to post the Thomas Reed link here because she said it was back up. www.tomreed.info/I honestly didn't even know that it had gone down. I also forgot that this was the thread where ufo4peace threw his temper tantrum. I was reading through some of the old posts here and was amazed that we went through all of this nonsense. Ahh...the good ol' days.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2014 1:51:25 GMT -6
I set my mind initially that I would remember from the start. This self suggestion from the start may have made remembering easier for me I did the same. At a very young age. Why I was so adamant to remember things, has quit working for me, because I don't remember why it was so important to remember. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ The Tom Reed site may have been 'back up" for awhile. I remember being concerned that it "just disappeared" for a period of time, directly after he told his story on TEOR. After he told his story on TEOR to some extent, I believe he deleted it himself. I'm not going to speculate (here ) why Mr. Reed was so open here, and then appears to "shut down" for awhile. He did say that he hoped to become more public about his case, and seemed to promise that more interviews were coming (other than Mufin). What is important to me, is that the man's story has not changed, from his past. What is scary to me, is him and his family have obviously continued to have "contact" with these enitities, and recent memories are harder to come by and retain. Yes, this scares me a lot. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ www.tomreed.info/I really don't care if Tom Reed is making some sort of "profit financially" from any of this. To make some profit, to help yourself and others, over something so prominent in your life, can be a good thing. As long as you don't change your "story", etc. I had a nice conversation with him here on TEOR, even if it was disturbing. our brief connection involved the weeping willow tree, and a detail of my "abdutions" that I had never shared with anyone. That detail is very relevant to my recall of events. From childhood, whenever I was shown things (which I thought were dreams), I had someone with me, walking with me, but that "person" was always just out of my field of vision. Even when I turned my body 180 degrees, whomever was with me, turned the same. At the time, I knew "whomever" was there, their presence was actually a comfort with what I was being shown. I got the hint that my focus was NOT to be on the person with me, but on what they were showing me. The hard part (now) for me, is that whomever was showing these things to a child (me). I understand it, but I sure don't like it much.
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