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Post by ufo4peace on Jun 22, 2012 0:53:52 GMT -6
Just the other day my father and I had a blowout on the highway. Several complete strangers pulled over to see if we were OK. I'm pretty sure they didn't expect us to give them any money for doing so... but I have a feeling you would not have stopped if you had seen a young woman and her elderly father stranded on the side of the road because you don't care about anyone but yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2012 1:14:03 GMT -6
That's right. You can't respond intelligently to my post in any way, so you post a picture of something that has absolutely nothing to do with anything I said... You poor thing. You're simply not smart enough to debate with me like an intelligent adult without resorting to pictures and immature sexually condescending insults... ...how sad...
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Post by ufo4peace on Jun 22, 2012 1:22:16 GMT -6
Most abductees are too afraid to show their faces in public. Steve respects the privacy of those he works with. Is that so hard to believe? Sounds a lot like MUFON. I guess being a former MUFON makes you innocent? mmmm...just by looking at his mug shot I wouldn't trust the guy. That's just me though. Like I said if we are going to claim to be helping abductees where are the testominials? Give me a web site, give me something.
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Post by ufo4peace on Jun 22, 2012 1:34:34 GMT -6
That's right. You can't respond intelligently to my post in any way, so you post a picture of something that has absolutely nothing to do with anything I said... You poor thing. You're simply not smart enough to debate with me like an intelligent adult without resorting to pictures and immature sexually condescending insults... ...how sad... So let me get this straight. MUFON = bad/conspiracy. Former MUFON member who is nice and has lots of stories to tell = good guy. Abductees are too afraid to show their faces yet many abductees have thanks to the likes of Bud Hopkins and John Mack. MUFON Forum - Abduction StoriesThree pages of real people talking about their experiences.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2012 1:36:47 GMT -6
I see. So now you apparently are claiming to possess the superhuman ability of being able to accurately judge a man by his physical appearance... Once again your narrow-minded attitude is showing through... I think he looks distinguished and kind in this photo personally... ~shrug~
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2012 1:41:25 GMT -6
That's right. You can't respond intelligently to my post in any way, so you post a picture of something that has absolutely nothing to do with anything I said... You poor thing. You're simply not smart enough to debate with me like an intelligent adult without resorting to pictures and immature sexually condescending insults... ...how sad... So let me get this straight. MUFON = bad/conspiracy. Former MUFON member who is nice and has lots of stories to tell = good guy. Abductees are too afraid to show their faces yet many abductees have thanks to the likes of Bud Hopkins and John Mack. MUFON Forum - Abduction StoriesThree pages of real people talking about their experiences. Good for them. They are braver than most. Steve left MUFON because he didn't like what they were doing. If you knew him- you would know that. But you don't- do you? No, you would rather personally attack a man whom you know absolutely nothing about and make false accusations against him because you're jealous. Me, I don't personally have anything against MUFON. I just know that a lot of my friends here on the forum have issues with them. I believe the things my friends have told me although I have never had any personal dealings with the organization... ~shrug~ So tell me UFO4peace- what does YOUR face look like? Why don't you show us so we can judge you by your physical appearance too?
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Post by ufo4peace on Jun 22, 2012 1:56:46 GMT -6
Check it out: Scotland’s biggest UFO incident to hit the big screen"Garry Wood and Colin Wright, who claim they were abducted while driving to the village of Tarbrax." Real people with real names, real faces. If you are such a big shot UFO investigator that likes to point fingers then give me something more than John Doe tales. Transparency is important. You just can't trust somebody who claims this or that.
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Post by ufo4peace on Jun 22, 2012 2:20:55 GMT -6
Good for them. They are braver than most. Steve left MUFON because he didn't like what they were doing. If you knew him- you would know that. But you don't- do you? No, you would rather personally attack a man whom you know absolutely nothing about and make false accusations against him because you're jealous. Me, I don't personally have anything against MUFON. I just know that a lot of my friends here on the forum have issues with them. I believe the things my friends have told me although I have never had any personal dealings with the organization... ~shrug~ So tell me UFO4peace- what does YOUR face look like? Why don't you show us so we can judge you by your physical appearance too? Actually I have nothing against Steve. Just saying he looks suspect. I'm a person that believes in complete transparencey. If I had a alien/UFO store I would have a resource center for abductees. If an abductee wanted to stay anonymous I would tell them to keep to themselves. If they wanted help I would point to a hypnotherapist or a shrink who's willing to work with people who think they are being abducted. If a person demanded action and wanted the government to do something about it or at least to acknowledge the phenomenon then I would urge them to go public. Don't report it to MUFON, try the local media. Seek out a UFO investigator willing to run with your story. I'm sure there are a lot out there. Keeping people anonymous and salivating over the details just looks like info gathering. Who really knows where the info is going? It's kind of like MUFON. As far as me. I'm not boasting to be a big shot investigator or the savior of abductees.
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Post by ufo4peace on Jun 22, 2012 4:34:37 GMT -6
I didn't see Lorelei's video either but I know she wouldn't mean to offend anyone. I know Lorelei is regarded by me and everyone here as well as a brilliant sweety too. So I'm back to multi-generational abductions. Mary and I had a very interesting session with Han this afternoon. Some very revealing stuff. Last week a new entity appeared with Han. The first female entity. She has a name. She appeared again with Han and the two talked with Mary. I don't know where this is all coming from, but whether you are from this home planet, or from light years away, whether human kin or Zeta kin - it seems being female is a universal concept. There was discussions of underground base locations on Earth, where some UFO crash debris might be hidden, and even some remote viewing into the heads of the Mufon board of Directors as well. ;D So you want paranormal? - we got paranormal. Steve meh... I'm starting to get the impression this board is 100% baloney. What a waste of my time.
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Post by ufo4peace on Jun 22, 2012 5:00:20 GMT -6
Thanks guys, for the kind words and understanding. Really am liking it here, more and more. the main reason I don't post the encounter in main forum posts, is to avoid a google search and possible nutcases...lol. There really is no safe haven for abductees on the internet when it comes to serious research and serious minded people. Even though people here may mean well I don't think you've escaped some of your concerns. Try reading the various long winded topics, the way the information is presented ALL IN CAPS, you'll see what I mean. That's just the nature of these types of forums. It draws a certain type of person.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2012 10:36:03 GMT -6
It really IS a waste of your time to be here. REALLY. And every time we try giving you the benefit of the doubt you end up attacking someone. Either someone's stance on an issue or in this case an actual person. Slander comes to mind in this case. Putting aside what I personally think of Steve and trying to see your point from any angle..I come up with nothing more than your own sour vindictive personality. NOW...leave off with the insults and innuendos or I'll escort you to the door myself. You are a chemical spill that just won't clean up...comes back and back and the moment someone tries to befriend you or accept your venom...you leap and grab more. Warning..stop it now. Have a great day tho
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Post by auntym on Jun 22, 2012 10:43:57 GMT -6
you're walking a very thin line ufo4p ...
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Post by god on Jun 22, 2012 11:52:15 GMT -6
It's not the pigs fault becoming fat, but of the owner that feeds him
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2012 12:44:46 GMT -6
Consider changing your name to Confucius ;D
Naturally it's not the pigs fault he becomes fat..but then neither does the pig have the brain to stay away from the rendering pot...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2012 16:06:30 GMT -6
Actually I have nothing against Steve. Just saying he looks suspect. Again- we are returning to the belief that you are able to accurately judge a person by his physical appearance. What about Stephen Hawking? Do you judge the capabilities of his mind and soul based on the appearance of his paralyzed body? I'm a person that believes in complete transparencey. If I had a alien/UFO store I would have a resource center for abductees. What do you think this forum is, the one you hate so much? Why do you think we don't delete anything here? If an abductee wanted to stay anonymous I would tell them to keep to themselves. If they wanted help I would point to a hypnotherapist or a shrink who's willing to work with people who think they are being abducted. Steve works closely with Mary who is a certified hypnotherapist and a former psychiatric nurse. He does the same thing you suggest he should do- but you don't understand that because you're leaping to conclusions again while knowing absolutely nothing about what you are talking about. If a person demanded action and wanted the government to do something about it or at least to acknowledge the phenomenon then I would urge them to go public. Don't report it to MUFON, try the local media. Seek out a UFO investigator willing to run with your story. I'm sure there are a lot out there. Steve has been on several radio programs with the actual experiencers/abductees he has worked with and he has also presented the information of various cases he as worked on on radio programs as well. He also shares a lot of his cases on the forum with us. Have you ever even listened to some of the programs he has been on? I think saying something on a radio program or a forum is considered "going public", isn't it? Keeping people anonymous and salivating over the details just looks like info gathering. Who really knows where the info is going? It's kind of like MUFON. He shares the info in his research, with his two business associates (an MD and a psychiatric nurse/hypnotherapist)and he shares cases with us here as well. All the time. As far as me. I'm not boasting to be a big shot investigator or the savior of abductees. But you are accusing someone else of being that way when he is not. Honestly... You get all upset over something that isn't true and you are saying a man should be doing things which is is already doing... lol... You live in your own little world my dear. All of your reality exists only in that pretty little head of yours.
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Post by casper on Jun 22, 2012 19:00:54 GMT -6
Good post, lorelie. Ufo4peace whines and complains too much. If he doesn't like it here why is he here? He should go somewhere else and stop bugging people.
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Post by ufo4peace on Jun 22, 2012 22:40:46 GMT -6
What about Stephen Hawking? Do you judge the capabilities of his mind and soul based on the appearance of his paralyzed body? Stephen Hawking looks like an academia type. Not really creepy or unhinged. What do you think this forum is, the one you hate so much? Why do you think we don't delete anything here? People here remind me of desperate abused people who need affection. Very submissive. Maybe that's from abductions. ~makes whipcracking sound~ Steve works closely with Mary who is a certified hypnotherapist and a former psychiatric nurse. He does the same thing you suggest he should do- but you don't understand that because you're leaping to conclusions again while knowing absolutely nothing about what you are talking about. It just a self serving way to get info from people seeking help. On the topic of hypnotherapy: "There are no set criteria on who can become a hypnotherapist. As an alternative medical practice the field of hypnotherapy is open to anyone who is interested..." Read more: Qualifications Needed to Become a Hypnotherapist | eHow.com www.ehow.com/way_5751523_qualifications-needed-become-hypnotherapist.html#ixzz1yaQsOeJpAn abductee should see a mental health professional at first. Then you can try hypnotherapy or an abduction support group. If your abuction was UFO related you may consider reporting it to a UFO organization or someone in UFOlogy. If a person does not wish to go public then it is best if you keep it to yourself. Steve has been on several radio programs with the actual experiencers/abductees he has worked with and he has also presented the information of various cases he as worked on on radio programs as well. He also shares a lot of his cases on the forum with us. Have you ever even listened to some of the programs he has been on? I think saying something on a radio program or a forum is considered "going public", isn't it? . People really don't tune in to those internet radio programs. It's small potatoe type stuff. I'm looking at Steve's Investigations page and there is only one very long thread. Half arsed, unorganized type stuff. He shares the info in his research, with his two business associates (an MD and a psychiatric nurse/hypnotherapist)and he shares cases with us here as well. All the time. I'll share my research. CASE#completely made up In some made up date John Doe (pseudonym) was abducted while going to the store in a elliptical, no make that a ugh..disc-shaped craft by Nordics, no make that the greys. I can't disclose the witness idenity because they don't like the attention. By the way, my sister er., make that uncle is a former registered nerse and qualified hypnotheropist. She/he got a degree online from a for profit school. (medical billing/accounting/graphic design). I'm only here because I want to help the poor abductees. I feel sorry for them/feel their pain. Check out my internet radio show. I bought a cheap headset microphone at Radio Shack and it's streaming online. I may be getting literally millions of listeners instead of none. Oh yeah, you should also trust me because I'm a friendly person you've met online and very sympathetic, also a all around good guy. UFO volunteer investigator UFO4peace has personally investigated over 300 UFO cases. After being run out of a major UFO organization he claims conspiracy and blogs on a Paranormal/UFO forum very few people have heard of.
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Post by ufo4peace on Jun 23, 2012 1:04:01 GMT -6
I personally dont care if he's the F.B.I.,the C.I.A., S.A.C., D.O.D., S.D., P.D., or any other I, A, C, or D, he's Steve,, he's a good dude,, and I like him,,and T.R.U.S.T him ! I hope he comes back soon ! He is missed here . If witness harassment cases are any indication I don't think that's such a good idea. I remember him going on about an investigation where the witness had to frequently move afterward. Why would anyone open themself up to a government who seems intent on keeping this secret? Not a good idea. Sure, there are a lot of nice people out there and I'm sure in their minds with the American flag waving above their heads they mean well but if our questionable foreign policy is any indication the results may not turn out in your favor.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2012 1:07:43 GMT -6
This forum wasn't started as a place for anyone to 'trash' anyone else. Nothing gives anyone the right to tear down other members, besmirch their names or malign them in anyway. Don't care who it is. You've been given much more leniency than ANY of the moderators wanted you to have. Sky has gone to bat for you over and over..possibly seeing something in you that absolutely escapes the rest of us. Steve's a valued member of the forum and a friend to many here. At this point...you'll leave this forum or I will.
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Post by ufo4peace on Jun 23, 2012 1:13:23 GMT -6
It really IS a waste of your time to be here. REALLY. And every time we try giving you the benefit of the doubt you end up attacking someone. Either someone's stance on an issue or in this case an actual person. Slander comes to mind in this case. Putting aside what I personally think of Steve and trying to see your point from any angle..I come up with nothing more than your own sour vindictive personality. NOW...leave off with the insults and innuendos or I'll escort you to the door myself. You are a chemical spill that just won't clean up...comes back and back and the moment someone tries to befriend you or accept your venom...you leap and grab more. Warning..stop it now. Have a great day tho Pointing fingers at me or MUFON doesn't make up for the lack of real results. Proof is in the pudding. What people are actually being helped? Names, faces....
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Post by ufo4peace on Jun 23, 2012 1:33:53 GMT -6
This forum wasn't started as a place for anyone to 'trash' anyone else. Nothing gives anyone the right to tear down other members, besmirch their names or malign them in anyway. Don't care who it is. You've been given much more leniency than ANY of the moderators wanted you to have. Sky has gone to bat for you over and over..possibly seeing something in you that absolutely escapes the rest of us. Steve's a valued member of the forum and a friend to many here. At this point...you'll leave this forum or I will. First off he named me as a bad apple along with JJ Flash, has an axe to grind with MUFON. The guy already has a list of people he does not like. It's just power play nonsesne. All I'm asking for is results. Who are the actual abductees being helped, where's a web site, testimonials? The Steve's Investigations part of this forum only contains one very long thread. Of course, I'll be banned. Here comes Peter Pan again with his flute. He's the bad guy = trouble, I'm the good guy. Here'a another John Doe case I'm working one.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2012 2:10:24 GMT -6
Stephen Hawking looks like an academia type. Not really creepy or unhinged. And how would he look if he didn't have people grooming him? An abductee should see a mental health professional at first. Then you can try hypnotherapy or an abduction support group. If your abuction was UFO related you may consider reporting it to a UFO organization or someone in UFOlogy. If a person does not wish to go public then it is best if you keep it to yourself. As I said before... the woman Steve works closely with IS a mental health professional. She is an RN specializing in psychiatric nursing. She is not some random person who has walked in off the street my dear. They don't just hand out RN degrees to anyone... lol... You're right. Any idiot can get a college degree online... that's why they allow these stupid RNs to work in hospitals to help people who are very sick- because these nurses with degrees in medicine don't know what they're doing... yea... that's exactly right... lol... So... if a Registered Nurse specializing in psychiatry is not a mental health professional- who is? I suppose you think someone has to have an MD after her name in order to be taken seriously... like say... oh... maybe John Mack for example... lol... People really don't tune in to those internet radio programs. It's small potatoe type stuff. Could have fooled me. On Pal-Talk there are several rooms dedicated to paranormal type radio programs and lots and lots of people frequent them to get information about this phenomenon. I'll share my research. CASE#completely made up I didn't even read it because I know it's probably a bunch of baloney like everything else you post on here. ~yawn~ You're just jealous. Plain and simple. Nobody here likes you. You have insulted virtually every one of us here in one way or another when we went out of our way to try to be nice to you. It's time for you to go UFO4peace. If you don't leave, I will leave along with Jo. Morgan will not be able to talk me out of it this time. If he'd rather have a forum with just him and you- so be it. It depends on what he wants this place to become. I'm sure he remembers the tarot card reading I did for him when he first opened up this forum. I'm sure he remembers me telling him this forum would fade away into the background because of bickering among the members. It's up to you Morgan. It's your choice. It's your forum.
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Post by ufo4peace on Jun 23, 2012 2:21:07 GMT -6
I'll tell you what. I'll bow out of this forum since it's fantasy prone people who like following the Pied Piper. I'm more into the real UFO cases and real UFO/CE3/Abduction witnesses with a name and a face. Not so much John Doe abduction stories or the stories people like to tell using a screen name on a paranormal forum.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2012 2:25:11 GMT -6
First off he named me as a bad apple along with JJ Flash... Well... ~giggle~ That's because you ARE... lolz... and... so is JJ... so... what's the problem with him stating that? I say you are a bad apple too... and so does Jo... and so does Cliff... and so does Aunty... anyone else want to get in on this? Raise your hands if you think UFO4peace is a bad apple! lolz... don't be shy now... The guy already has a list of people he does not like. So do I. And you're on it. Again- what's your point? You don't like him because he doesn't like you? Hmm. Well that makes sense I suppose... ;D It's just power play nonsesne. Translation: "Mommy Mommy! Little Stevie doesn't like me and I don't like him because he doesn't like me! That means he's using his power to be mean to me! Mommy mommy! I think his face looks funny! That means everyone else should agree with me!!" All I'm asking for is results. Who are the actual abductees being helped, where's a web site, testimonials? The Steve's Investigations part of this forum only contains one very long thread. So- any serious researcher of anything needs to have a web site, huh? Wrong. There are thousands of serious researchers who do not have websites. That's what books are for. That's what scholarly magazines are for... I know about these things because I used to work in a place called a "Library"... have you ever heard of it? In these libraries, they have these things called "Periodicals" which are called that because... well... they are updated periodically... and they have all kinds of words in them... words which mean all kinds of different things when put together in differing orders... you should investigate this sometime my dear. While you're there, you should also investigate a magical book known as a "dictionary". In this magical book you can look up the real definition of words you don't understand- words like "cult" for example... Any idiot can put up a website after all- using your own logic. Just like you and your own little forum- a forum where nobody posts. Did you ever stop to think about why nobody wants to visit your forum? Maybe because... oh I don't know... you're a horrible cruel and selfish person who only listens to himself, his ideas and his own opinions and nothing else? Of course, I'll be banned. Here comes Peter Pan again with his flute. He's the bad guy = trouble, I'm the good guy. Here'a another John Doe case I'm working one. a good guy doesn't go around spewing slander against people he doesn't like. Good guys don't go around saying hate speech against Jews is perfectly acceptable. Good guys don't go around sexually harassing women. A good guy you are not. Once again- you are no Steve Reichmuth and you never will be my dear. If you ever find yourself lying awake at night and wondering why- the answer is simple. Because you are you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2012 2:27:04 GMT -6
What about Stephen Hawking? Do you judge the capabilities of his mind and soul based on the appearance of his paralyzed body? Stephen Hawking looks like an academia type. Not really creepy or unhinged. People here remind me of desperate abused people who need affection. Very submissive. Maybe that's from abductions. ~makes whipcracking sound~ It just a self serving way to get info from people seeking help. On the topic of hypnotherapy: . . . I'll share my research. CASE#completely made up In some made up date John Doe (pseudonym) was abducted while going to the store in a elliptical, no make that a ugh..disc-shaped craft by Nordics, no make that the greys. I can't disclose the witness idenity because they don't like the attention. By the way, my sister er., make that uncle is a former registered nerse and qualified hypnotheropist. She/he got a degree online from a for profit school. (medical billing/accounting/graphic design). I'm only here because I want to help the poor abductees. I feel sorry for them/feel their pain. Check out my internet radio show. I bought a cheap headset microphone at Radio Shack and it's streaming online. I may be getting literally millions of listeners instead of none. Oh yeah, you should also trust me because I'm a friendly person you've met online and very sympathetic, also a all around good guy. UFO volunteer investigator UFO4peace has personally investigated over 300 UFO cases. After being run out of a major UFO organization he claims conspiracy and blogs on a Paranormal/UFO forum very few people have heard of. Is this You? And what is your real name? Please. Morgan Sierra knows my real name and my home address. I trust him not to give that information out; its just not necessary . Dr. John Mack started out his hypnotherapy on a controversial subject. Past Life regression. Through this research he became aware of more abductees. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2012 2:28:12 GMT -6
I'll tell you what. I'll bow out of this forum since it's fantasy prone people who like following the Pied Piper. I'm more into the real UFO cases and real UFO/CE3/Abduction witnesses with a name and a face. Not so much John Doe abduction stories or the stories people like to tell using a screen name on a paranormal forum. You're just jealous because we aren't rallying behind you and your broken rusted flute which you don't know how to play... lolz... Don't let the metaphorical door hit you on the butt on your way out... have fun with your friends over on the MUFON forum.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2012 2:30:47 GMT -6
JC, if that really is a photograph of him I am not surprised. He looks like he's gritting his teeth and snarling... it seems to fit him...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2012 2:45:13 GMT -6
Raise your hands if you think UFO4peace is a bad apple! lolz... don't be shy now... ____________________________________________________ All eight hands are raised ;D . I'm so anonymous on here that I could actually be an alien!Or engaged to a member of the CIA (LOL) Bad apple has a reason for going bad. . . it doesn't just show up on a tree already spoiled. . . SO I prefer to call you, ufo4peace, a "pot-stirrer". For a minute there, I thought you were FOR hypnotherapy. Then you "changed your tune" and sounded like you thought they were quacks. I mentioned this before, that you seem to argue both sides: always going the opposite of whoever you have talked with at the moment. This particular thread (multi-gen.) did have someone transparent on it. What was his name? Thank You for the picture of Steve Reichmuth. He has the kindest eyes! ;D
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Post by ufo4peace on Jun 23, 2012 5:30:56 GMT -6
Raise your hands if you think UFO4peace is a bad apple! lolz... don't be shy now... ____________________________________________________ All eight hands are raised ;D . I'm so anonymous on here that I could actually be an alien!Or engaged to a member of the CIA (LOL) Bad apple has a reason for going bad. . . it doesn't just show up on a tree already spoiled. . . SO I prefer to call you, ufo4peace, a "pot-stirrer". For a minute there, I thought you were FOR hypnotherapy. Then you "changed your tune" and sounded like you thought they were quacks. I mentioned this before, that you seem to argue both sides: always going the opposite of whoever you have talked with at the moment. This particular thread (multi-gen.) did have someone transparent on it. What was his name? Thank You for the picture of Steve Reichmuth. He has the kindest eyes! ;D The photo is not me. I still have a full head of hair. It's too illustrate the type of people you see in Ufology who boast about their FI credentials. As for hypnotherapy, I'm in favor of it but I also think it's a bit on the iffy side. The problem with Steve is he is getting info from abductees yet it's all very discreet. Is defensive about the USAF. Has strong patriotic/national defense feelings. I would be weary of people or organizations that show a lack of transparency and you see conflicting messages. Strong national security, national defense. Concerned about Iran accessing nukes. But openly accepts ETs are real, UFOs etc. Explanation: America leads the world in arms trade. Israel is our #1 customer. If you are concerned about Iran accessing nukes then why openly embrace ET's and UFOs? Of course, if the cat was out of the bag, then Iran (our feared enemy) would now be eyeing what the ET's have. Defense is one reason our government lies about Roswell and UFOs. So if you are researching alien abduction and gathering info not wanting to step on anyones toes then one has to question motive. Where is the info going. Is it being kept in a locked drawer? Passed along to spooks because it's your patriotic duty. Things like that. The same people laughing off any suspicions in this thread accept that something isn't right with MUFON where you may read about a UFO case but there is not much in the way in details about the individual reporting the UFO. Steve, of course also voiced his suspicions about MUFON's BoD. But lets not forget he is former MUFON and goes about things in a similar discreet fashion.
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Post by Morgan Sierra on Jun 23, 2012 6:58:40 GMT -6
Goodbye ufo4peace!
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