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Post by lois on Mar 3, 2012 23:42:10 GMT -6
I'm been saying 30s .. they went to Arkansas in 1928 or 1929, he was born. Gee, this must of happen way back in time. Were grays here then? He could of still been in a crib at two or three.
It holds truth to me as they say generations are involved, sometimes. Save one child and about kill another. What kind of thinking is that?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2012 0:32:34 GMT -6
Steve, I got to thinking about that story you told again... It reminds me of the poem "The Elf King" by Goethe... It's a poem about a boy and his father riding on a horse on a journey. My German teacher said they were probably traveling to see a doctor because the boy was very ill. While on the horseback the boy started telling his father about the elf king lurking off in the fog. The father assured the boy that it was only the fog. The boy then heard the elf king speaking to him and telling him he loved him and wanted him to watch his daughters dance, and his daughters would rock him and kiss him and sing him to sleep... The boy told his father all of this and the father told him don't worry, it's just the wind... Suddenly the boy became agitated and told his father the elf king was going to take him away and he was going to do it by force! Something in the boy's voice frightened the father and he nudged the horse into a full gallop, panic-stricken he held the child tightly to his chest. The child died in his arms. I just remembered this poem... we read it in German class a long time ago...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2012 17:04:15 GMT -6
Greetings,
It's has been awhile since my last visit and I would like to add that we have Spiritual guides and Cosmic guides assisting us through our earthly journeys and it is the cosmic guides that usually perform any healing and they take us out of harms way if it isn't quite our time to exit this experience. That doesn't mean that we can do whatever we want and test fate or play with invited dangers into our life; freewill comes into play and those guides step aside and allow your chosen experience to happen.
It's not nice to fool with Mother Nature... or testing Fate.
Greetings Derek
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Post by skywalker on Mar 5, 2012 21:44:45 GMT -6
Nice to see you again, Derek.
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Post by Steve on Mar 6, 2012 2:28:29 GMT -6
Welcome back Derek. Thank you for sharing some perspectives. Thank you too anna for the Elf poem. It is poignant here, except in the entity case the person loved has not died compared to the poem's ending. People just report Sky. It is we that seem to determine what is good or bad by a generally accepted value system later. I just record them and have been giving some other view points to those wanting my opinion and possible insights. This is how I was able to learn about this event. Those surrounding this event other than the person who benefited from it themselves labeled it a miracle if compared by our current medical science. It is the safer improbable explanation to say they were angels, than to say that extraterrestrials got past hospital security, treated one of their patients in their care with out authorization.... in this litigious infested culture? Would patients want to go to a hospital that claimed one of their patients was cured of cancer by little gray men with big almond shaped black eyes wearing white skin diving suits? Someone would lock the hospital staff in a ward. Conservative religious leaders would go more ape. Individually we each seem to be alright with considering the notion, but in a group or mob mentality..... If it says anything about what the person who experienced it themselves thinks.....(glad someone remembers them in all this)....they are courageously cutting to the chase...seeking their truth ...and are now being regressed thinking these persons that healed them where ET's illustrates what is acceptable culturally/socially. They know what the saw and experienced. they saw what happened, they experienced the cure literally overnight. It does not diminish anyone's belief in God, (nor mine) any more than many will accept that God can work through the skills of MDs too. Seems God can use physicians we will just say from other medical residencies.... This healing to me seems to a specific agenda. The medical records I have requested copies of sure will show the diagnosis before and after. A hard medical fact. The person who was healed seems to be very much a VIP not by their own admission, but simply from what they have described. Just last year this same person had another significant encounter ....an encounter with multiple witnesses taken too. Read two of the transcripts of two of them about the same event. The person 'healed' it seems may have been done so for some important yet undisclosed serious reason and purpose. Judging by the multiple craft that appeared in that 2011 encounter, the description read more like a parade to allow a meeting between this experiencer and an entity. Steve
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Post by Steve on May 25, 2012 17:49:48 GMT -6
Looked high and low in vain here for the radio program announcements....searched radio programs, radio shows...no luck... So screw it, posting here instead.... Another radio show tomorrow... The Exploring Unexplained Phenomena radio program ("E.U.P."). (Scroll down to listen live or later) Celebrating 27 + years ! Saturday, May 26th, 2012. Producer: Matt. Opening segment: ** "In the dark with Rosemary." Rosemary Ellen Guiley, Paranormal Events and Activities Update. www.visionaryliving.com/ . ** "Pet Talk" with Donna from the Capital Humane Society. Dogs and cats for adoption. www.capitalhumanesociety.org/index.html . Main Guest: Steve Reichmuth. Senior Investigator for Alien Abductions, associated with Epic Voyagers. Program topic: A case examination of a couple's alien abduction in the Sierra Nevada's, almost 3 years ago to this date (May 26th, 2009). Website: epicvoyagers.com/Home_Page.html . Hello Folks, Please join me for an interesting conversation with repeat guest Steve Reichmuth, who has appeared along with Margot Malone on two previous programs. Mr. Reichmuth joins us to talk about his investigator role in a UFO-entity abduction of a couple that took place in the Sierra Nevada Mountain range of Northern California almost 3 years ago to the date of our radio program conversation. Steve Reichmuth has e-mailed me to describe this case. Here are his words: "It involves a couple in the Sierra Nevada's in May 2009. Abducted on two consecutive nights from their campsite. Interviews, drawings by the witnesses under hypnosis, artists conceptual drawings, The hypnosis sessions were transcribed. It was investigated by my collegues and I, a certified clinical hypnotheripist, and a practicing local physician, all three of us interested in and investigating the abduction mystery." In describing his investigation of the Sierra Nevada abduction, Steve said to me: "I think you would find it amazing, and would be able to describe what and how such a investigation was done. What we look for, indicators, personal observations I noted. How some witnesses descriptions of the entities change from their description in the initial raw recording, vs. their later descriptions as a coping mechanism, they being to humanize the beings they reportedly encounter. Not confabulation, but the mind coping to a new reality. "Some researchers I wonder if they have mis-interpreted this. Reports of so many varied 'alien species 'descriptions, yet what maybe dozens of different kinds of aliens may perhaps in reality just a half dozen or less. This could be simply because researchers perhaps fail to notice, depending where along the client's mental process - when they ask for a description of the entities. The 'being' is first described often as a 'thing', then a 'being', then a 'strange small man', then even as a strange man that looks like a child. To psychologically cope, the client tries to humanize because that is their only natural reference. So I wonder about some proclamations out there of 64 different species visiting us?" Steve Reichmuth then added this: "The abduction occurred on May 26, and May 27 (on two consecutive nights) in 2009 in the high sierras Nevada mountains in California. I have much to discuss, including a new case becoming known that occurred in Kentucky in 2011 involving 5 persons abducted together. One of these same experiencers when they were 5 years old was healed they claim in the hospital where she was within weeks of dying of leukemia. She was completely healed literally over night. It was documented medically and appeared in the local newspaper, but the parents said by 'angels', the witness..now an adult knows and describes the experience in some detail, and as much as we all believe in angels, these visitors were different." (all quoted material from Steve Reichmuth to me via e-mail). I hope you'll enjoy this conversation on the "EUP" radio program ! You can let a family member, friend or colleague know that this program will also be available free of of charge on our archive and podcast site usually by the next day (Sunday) at 12 noon Central Time.
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Post by skywalker on May 25, 2012 19:43:36 GMT -6
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Post by skywalker on May 26, 2012 11:21:45 GMT -6
Darn it! I think I missed the show again. I thought it came on at 12 central time but it looks like it started at 10 and ended at 12. Rats. That's what I get for not paying attention.
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Post by Steve on May 26, 2012 22:47:18 GMT -6
Darn it! I think I missed the show again. I thought it came on at 12 central time but it looks like it started at 10 and ended at 12. Rats. That's what I get for not paying attention. Will be online on same station as previous shows tomorrow. Scott invited me back...third show we have done...I maybe becoming a regular perhaps? Steve
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Post by skywalker on May 27, 2012 16:29:25 GMT -6
That would be cool. Maybe one of these days you could do a show like you were thinking about doing before, where you and several other abductees could all be on at once and have a little group discussion. That might be interesting.
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Post by Steve on May 29, 2012 7:59:48 GMT -6
That would be cool. Maybe one of these days you could do a show like you were thinking about doing before, where you and several other abductees could all be on at once and have a little group discussion. That might be interesting. I have been invited back......it was spontaneously requested on the air by Scott Colborn, the shows host. So in the future....what you suggest Tom is a definite possibility. I am very open to it. Scott wanted to hear more about the 5 'taken' in Kentucky last year in April 2011. Steve
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Post by skywalker on Jun 2, 2012 21:20:14 GMT -6
Steve, I'm finally getting to listen to the radio show that you were on and I just heard the story you told about the man who was riding the bus in Texas. He said that everybody was looking out one side of the bus at a UFO and then all of a sudden everybody was sitting down in their seats and refusing to talk about what had happened.
I remembered reading a similar story on the NUFORC site a long time ago so I took a look and found this report that occurred in 1965.
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Occurred : 12/10/1965 21:00 (Entered as : 12/10/1965 21:00) Reported: 10/28/2003 8:47:11 PM 20:47 Posted: 10/31/2003 Location: San Marcos, TX Shape: Light Duration:1 minute What happened on that buss in 1965, in Texas
Bus of Gary Job Corps trainees going to Houston for Christmas Hollidays; We were all excited about the "V" formation of Bright Lights comeing over the north horizon toward us, I was concerned about everyone shifting the weight of the bus, because we were all on the left side of the Bus looking out the window. We watched the lights go over the bus very high and fast, and as I looked around the bus, sudenly I realized that everyone was sitting in their seats, like nothing happened; I asked people if they saw that, but they just sat there with a blank look on their face, and would not talk for the rest of the trip to Houston.
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Is this the same story that you were referring to?
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Post by skywalker on Jun 2, 2012 21:29:08 GMT -6
I also found this one which sounds like the same event but has a slightly different date.
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Occurred : 12/22/1965 09:00 (Entered as : 12/22/1965 09:00 p) Reported: 6/16/2004 10:44:50 PM 22:44 Posted: 6/18/2004 Location: Houston (west of), TX Shape: Formation Duration:3 minutes 45 of us were on the Bus, standing to see the objects, then flash, and everyone was in their seats again
15 bright lights flying in v formation from north to south, and flew over the bus, which was going east, I saw them first and told the other boys from the Job Corps, and we were excited and standing in the isle to see them clearly, but when the objects were over us, there was a bright light, and I looked around, and all the boys were calmly sitting in their seats again, all in an instant; how is that possible? then none of the boys would talk about what happened.
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Post by skywalker on Jun 2, 2012 22:14:44 GMT -6
I agree with your idea of abductees changing the descriptions of the aliens as a coping mechanism too. They try to humanize them so their memories aren't as threatening and traumatic for them. It makes perfect sense. What this means is that an investigator may not get an accurate description of the entities depending upon what stage of the coping process they are in. The closer it is to the time the actual abduction occurred the more accurate it will be...maybe. Actually now that I think about it that may not be entirely true because it may take a while for the memories to break through. If it is too close to the event the memories may be blocked completely or perhaps hidden under an image that is not quite as threatening. I guess it would depend on how well the person is able to cope with what happened to them. I would assume that this would only apply to conscious memories though. Would memories obtained under hypnosis be more accurate or would those memories change due to the coping process as well?
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Post by Steve on Jun 3, 2012 8:12:20 GMT -6
Thanks Sky,
I noticed this in a number of cases. The San Marcos experiences with all the passengers on the bus in San Marcos is the one. I did not know a report had been filed. Thanks.
The so called experts that go around the UFO symposium circuit that proclaim there are 65 different kinds of aliens running around could be possible, but, how are they so sure?....They cant be. These aliens don't present their passports and 'country of origin' do they? Think about it. Oh, we forgot their second cousins too. LOL. 'Over- concluding' again. An unfortunate all to common affliction among UFO speakers. Just stick to what one knows, and admit when we do not know. Why not 57 kinds of aliens? Like in Heinz catsup.
I think the way to evaluate is to be with the experiencer as many times during the process, record everything in audio and transcribe. Note how the appearance of these beings may or may not change. Is there a mental projection perhaps being implanted? Does the alien perhaps look like your mother or father for instance?
How do we process in our minds anything we completely and totally have never seen before? It is likely the same mental process what ever it maybe. We will naturally search our memory for comparisons to help identify or relate best we can. I remember the first time JPL scientists saw the first real good images of the Moon 'Io'. Amusingly they said it looks like a pizza, not really of course, but that is sometimes how our minds work.
Under hypnosis questions to an experiencer can be made more precise. Sometimes the certified hypnotherapist will remove gradually blocks of the beings (or anything else) appearance. Often the therapist will ask them to remove more and more gradually to the degree of their comfort level - like removing layers of bricks from a wall. They can be asked to describe as an observer, not as a participant in a objective detached way what they maybe seeing. The therapist will suggest to them they only describe it in that way. So the potential to help the expriencer focus without leading them by a therapist can potentially be more accurate in my opinion. Hypnosis is all really about focusing anyway.
The therapist can disconnect some natural impulses related to what they may see. This to help the experiencers therapeutically. The memories can be made more clear, but also with a helpful hypnotic suggestion - certain frightening memories can be rendered benign so the experiencer can live with them cope at a level right for them. This will not change what they describe, or diminish the significance to them, but the fear can be removed so they can go on with their lives.
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Post by Steve on Mar 25, 2013 8:39:31 GMT -6
Looks like now the book 'Aliens Answer' will be officially released on June 1, 2013 as planned. Prompting you again because now we have a definate time date. It will be a unprecedented, delightful, and an amazingly illuminating book. Some parts recorded even humorous . I expect Mary and I will be out promoting the book shortly after. A few small but important things left to do in the publishing process remaining.
Warm regards & respect,
Best,
Steve
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Post by lois on Mar 25, 2013 13:45:58 GMT -6
Looks like now the book 'Aliens Answer' will be officially released on June 1, 2013 as planned. Prompting you again because now we have a definate time date. It will be a unprecedented, delightful, and an amazingly illuminating book. Some parts recorded even humorous . I expect Mary and I will be out promoting the book shortly after. A few small but important things left to do in the publishing process remaining. Warm regards & respect, Best, Steve Steve that is wonderful. And it also is wonderful to have you on. I'm sure everyone here feels the same way. Thank you for posting about the book. My birthday is the 3rd of June. I know what I want this year.. ;D Can't wait to see the book cover.. hugs .. Lois
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Post by plutronus on Mar 25, 2013 14:54:34 GMT -6
Looks like now the book 'Aliens Answer' will be officially released on June 1, 2013 as planned. Prompting you again because now we have a definate time date. It will be a unprecedented, delightful, and an amazingly illuminating book. Some parts recorded even humorous . I expect Mary and I will be out promoting the book shortly after. A few small but important things left to do in the publishing process remaining. Warm regards & respect, Best, Steve Steve,
Successfully writing and publishing a book is an enormous task. Congratulation to you, your supporters and family.
And welcome back you've been missed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2013 23:15:07 GMT -6
Can't wait to see the book cover.. hugs .. Lois I'm sure the cover art will be done by Steve since he's such a talented artist...
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Post by Steve on Mar 26, 2013 21:17:03 GMT -6
Thanks everyone. I am having the book cover done for me & Mary this time by a professional book cover artist Mary reports. So it is in the process now, so in a way...I am curious how the book cover will look at this point too! LOL. We have outlined for the cover artist what we wish for each of the two book covers.
There seems to be a lot of unusual CE-4 activity reported lately around Kentucky. One therapist who has consulted me in the past related in a email just this morning after working with a family of experiencers...(multi-generational), the therapist had some creepy events shortly after the following night.
The therapist writes "When I woke up the next morning after visiting this family, There were photos on my phone of me sleeping and various random shots of my bedroom that I did not take. "
I hope first the therapist contacts the local police. Whatever the case who or what took photos of this person while they were asleep....sounds like someone or something doesn't want them pursuing this case.
It sounds almost like a prank the entities Stan Romanek was dealing with. This therapist has three excitable edgy dogs living there. Yet the photos of the therapist shows the individual asleep in their bed. They obviously didn't take them. Who or what did? Why? They know how cell phones work, and can somehow get past the dogs who or whatever maybe doing this. The therapist thinks it is a significant case. Creepy eh?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2013 21:27:31 GMT -6
OMG Steve... that's scary! I hope she/he will be OK...
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Post by skywalker on Mar 26, 2013 21:40:44 GMT -6
Thanks everyone. I am having the book cover done for me & Mary this time by a professional book cover artist Mary reports. So it is in the process now, so in a way...I am curious how the book cover will look at this point too! LOL. We have outlined for the cover artist what we wish for each of the two book covers. There seems to be a lot of unusual CE-4 activity reported lately around Kentucky. One therapist who has consulted me in the past related in a email just this morning after working with a family of experiencers...(multi-generational), the therapist had some creepy events shortly after the following night. The therapist writes "When I woke up the next morning after visiting this family, There were photos on my phone of me sleeping and various random shots of my bedroom that I did not take. " I hope first the therapist contacts the local police. Whatever the case who or what took photos of this person while they were asleep....sounds like someone or something doesn't want them pursuing this case. It sounds almost like a prank the entities Stan Romanek was dealing with. This therapist has three excitable edgy dogs living there. Yet the photos of the therapist shows the individual asleep in their bed. They obviously didn't take them. Who or what did? Why? They know how cell phones work, and can somehow get past the dogs who or whatever maybe doing this. The therapist thinks it is a significant case. Creepy eh? Steve Could be the Feds trying to scare her away.
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Post by CitizenK on Mar 26, 2013 23:03:27 GMT -6
Amazing story...much more to ponder now indeed! Funny you'd mention Heinz 57 for the number, do you remember me telling you about going to a certain 3 lettered words website and typing in aliens only to be led to a door/vault that after entering had a title called 57 known species??? ;D I bookmarked the list cause I couldn't memorize all of them and was too tired (it was very late) to write them all down, but I do remember a few...5 or 6 types of greys including whites, 5 reptillian types, ant, preying mantis, bigfoot, vampire, 3 human types, and that's it. probably because those are the common ones is why I remember them AND that I thought bigfoot and vampires was preposterous! Now I think the vampire thing is probably their way of adding mothman type sightings to the mix...and well, we all know there are some bigfoot stories out there reported to have had ufo's sighted in the same time frame...but i still don't think bigfoot is alien I think he's terrestrial. (did you hear about the new DNA research on 3 different independent samples? It showed human mitochondrial DNA and paternal 13-15,000 yr extinct Lemur! 300lb 8ft tall extinct lemur to be exact. )
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Post by Steve on Mar 31, 2013 23:55:44 GMT -6
There seems to be a lot of unusual CE-4 activity reported lately around Kentucky. One therapist who has consulted me in the past related in a email just this morning after working with a family of experiencers...(multi-generational), the therapist had some creepy events shortly after the following night. The therapist writes "When I woke up the next morning after visiting this family, There were photos on my phone of me sleeping and various random shots of my bedroom that I did not take. " I hope first the therapist contacts the local police. Whatever the case who or what took photos of this person while they were asleep....sounds like someone or something doesn't want them pursuing this case. It sounds almost like a prank the entities Stan Romanek was dealing with. This therapist has three excitable edgy dogs living there. Yet the photos of the therapist shows the individual asleep in their bed. They obviously didn't take them. Who or what did? Why? They know how cell phones work, and can somehow get past the dogs who or whatever maybe doing this. The therapist thinks it is a significant case. Creepy eh? Steve Stepping back and reflecting on all the known facts. One possibility I didn't know till yesterday is the therapist's daughter may have been staying at home that evening. There are three edgy dogs living there too. How could someone take random pictures about the house as well as photos of the therapist asleep with three nervous protective dogs around too? It would have to be someone the dogs were familiar with. It is possible the random pictures as well as photos of the therapist may have been taken by the daughter sleep walking. (a series of random pictures in the series). If the daughter was not home that evening, then this theory is tossed. Can people take cell phone pictures around the house while sleep walking? Sure! Steve .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2013 0:05:38 GMT -6
Can people take cell phone pictures around the house while sleep walking? Sure! Steve . If I can make a pot of coffee while sleepwalking... yep. If I can have a full conversation with someone while sleepwalking (sometimes in German)... yep. This is possible... although a sleepwalker with MY sleepwalking capabilities is EXTREMELY rare... it is indeed very possible. Steve- is her daughter a known sleepwalker?
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Post by Steve on Apr 1, 2013 0:10:25 GMT -6
Checking out now if her daughter was present that night, and if she was... then your question Lorelei. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2013 0:20:31 GMT -6
Checking out now if her daughter was present that night, and if she was... then your question Lorelei. Steve Tanks Steve. ;D (and yes... the misspelling was intentional... )
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Post by Steve on Apr 1, 2013 0:28:01 GMT -6
I know you well enough still to know your fussy about spelling, and your sense of humor is well intact. thx tanks...thanks... (tanks... Brooklyn?)
Steve
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Post by skywalker on Apr 1, 2013 11:38:26 GMT -6
Sleepwalking is a definite possibility. Either that or the daughter did it as a practical joke. Maybe she was drunk? Lots of possibilities when other people are involved. I found some weird pictures on one of my cameras once that looked like we were being invaded by a giant nose. Turns out my friend's two year old son had gotten hold of my camera somehow. Apparently he was trying to take some pictures but was pointing it the wrong way. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2013 12:40:44 GMT -6
Well if the daughter WAS in the house... and if she's used to taking lots of pictures on her cell phone it's entirely possible she did it.
Sleepwalkers often do things in their sleep which they normally do when they are awake... it's like your subconscious mind is programmed by your conscious mind.
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