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Post by paulette on Nov 16, 2011 21:29:43 GMT -6
I looked up both alchemical and runic symbols. No match. In looking at it, it seems like there "should be" /intuitively a cross bar joining the two lines at the bottom to make a second triangle. Its also weird that it is done with uneven pressure.
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Post by skywalker on Nov 16, 2011 23:15:55 GMT -6
That's one of the little doodles that I draw sometimes when I get bored. I have no idea why, or where I originally saw it at. I draw it exactly like that too, but that doesn't mean it has anything to do with anything abduction related. It could just be a coincidence.
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Post by Steve on Nov 16, 2011 23:21:37 GMT -6
When I first saw it, it looked like some kind of carpenters mark, but a new mark on an old door? No. The wood in the door reportedly is cherry. I am a dunce when it comes to some symbols, so your search Paulette encourages me. The height of the mark on the door is interesting to me. Roughly 4.5 feet. About the height of a child or a.... It looks like the mark was done by someone right handed? If I would guess, it was done in three strokes. First the harsh center line downward, gouging, then lightening up gaging the hardness or softness of the wood. The center line marking what is rendered around it next. Then the lower left corner up diagonally, then the horizontal across the top right to left, then either a continuous slashing down stroke from the upper left down to the lower right, or a separate single third stroke for the last line. ( ?). Notice how the lower right stroke digs again as Paulette points out (uneven) and curves downward slightly - making me think who ever marked it was right handed. The horizontal mark across the top if it started right to left, shows the person has a weak back hand..... Gads...the Holmes is coming out in me again.... pardon. Steve
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Post by Steve on Nov 16, 2011 23:39:42 GMT -6
Sky, I know another experiencer who makes similar doodles. Has done so all her life. Almost compulsively. I showed the mark to her first, But she does not think it is the same in her opinion.
Steve
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2011 23:47:55 GMT -6
It looks similar to the automatic writing I did for awhile too... not sure what it means but that symbol appeared more often than the others and it didn't have the line crossing down the middle...
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Post by lois on Nov 16, 2011 23:59:42 GMT -6
Can one tell what kind of tool made this mark on the door? Could it of been burned on? I don't recall anything like this.. Looks like a branded cattle mark to me.. What about a star system? Until I seen the bottom I thought of a hour glass. What ever it is it appears to be sort of sloppy made. As a child drew it. I think an alien race would of done much better. Who sleeps in this bedroom if I may ask? A child or an adult? I have no answers but lots of questions.
Take the top line off and it resembles a shining star.. My photographer memory does not relate to it. I remember anything I see usually. It resembles this mark in voyager beside the two earthing drawings. My memory is going way to fast for me..
I will think about more.
Is there no clues about it at all ? Like what happen about the time it appeared?
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Post by lois on Nov 17, 2011 0:11:57 GMT -6
I feel maybe there is an opening in the middle as the line goes through it. Had to add that one.. Any marks like this in ancient times?
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Post by Steve on Nov 17, 2011 3:20:42 GMT -6
Can one tell what kind of tool made this mark on the door? Could it of been burned on? Not burned in. Method unknown. Appears a rock or some kind of tool may have been used. If with fingernails - they were not any fingernails we know. An adult. The person was abducted. The person was led past that door, guided out of their house, followed a little man out into the nearby adjacent field where there were several small gray beings. Then this person was lifted up on a beam of light into a silver craft. They remember later only waking up in the morning back in the same room. It seemed strange to this person it did not occur to them to check for their tracks in this same field - but when they did remember - it had already been plowed.
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Post by paulette on Nov 17, 2011 9:15:31 GMT -6
OK Sherlock, I'll play the bumbling Dr. Watson. Let's say the person was abducted and as often is the case, asked for some proof or even saw something they desperately wanted to remember. They are returned via the field but wait, the adult manages to pick up a small rock and gouge a symbol in the door of the bedroom. The figure is below adult eye level but maybe the person was kneeling for some reason (ah maybe the person found something on the floor in their house, scooped it up by the door and made the symbol. It is not neat or precise - much like if someone was half awake. I would look for the object that made the mark in the house.
I would also assume that few people would willing gouge a cherry wood door if awake - they'd find a pencil and paper. I wonder if a pen or broken pencil could have done that damage?
I looked at the Voyager symbols and didn't see anything like this either. But why shoud it be s "our" symbol? Precisely I would think it is "their" symbol that someone tried hard to retain.
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Post by paulette on Nov 17, 2011 9:40:33 GMT -6
I think I've got it! See my posting about the 1680 coin! I've seen this mark and it is, if I am remembering correctly, a symbol used in watermarks (paper embossing) in the middle ages to indicate to the reader that the person who published the piece was of the bloodline of the Grail - or of David or of alien genetic combination. It's all in Gardener's book but I don't know where that book is right now or I'd look it up.
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Post by Steve on Nov 17, 2011 14:00:32 GMT -6
Well Paulette, Watson was never bumbling (or was supposed to be), and neither are you. Of course the height of the mark is only suggestive. Why would someone mark on a cherry wood door? Someone with little regard for property or the person living there perhaps. An alien might, but why leave evidence, goes against their whole program. A human source much more likely.
I remember the Voyager symbols by memory, and I think it was a helpful suggestion by Lois, but agree it is not the same symbol.
I may have found the answer last night for the meaning of the symbol. I have been mulling over it since late last night, and probably need to tell the client first.
Steve
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Post by lois on Nov 17, 2011 16:06:09 GMT -6
I sure hope whatever you have come up with help these people .. Has this been a recent event in their lives?
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Post by auntym on Nov 17, 2011 16:13:16 GMT -6
i have to ask.... are there very young children in the house who could have gotten ahold of something sharp and decided to display their creative juices by marking on the door?
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Post by Steve on Nov 17, 2011 19:13:22 GMT -6
i have to ask.... are there very young children in the house who could have gotten ahold of something sharp and decided to display their creative juices by marking on the door? No children. The home (I think rented) has been occupied by this person for approximately 18 months. The home has been lived in for many years before this. Importantly, it cannot be established if the marks have been present all a long, and only recently noticed, or are fairly new marks placed after the witness had moved in. One possible meaning I found for the symbol might suggest the symbol and the experience might be separate and are not connected. Inconsequential. Also I am having moral qualms - not sure if I even wish to tell the witness the possible meaning of the symbol I have discovered. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2011 19:43:46 GMT -6
Oooo the suspense is KILLING me!! I'm not going to beg you to tell us what it means though. I'm just going to sit here and bite my finger and wait.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2011 21:58:14 GMT -6
Steve, in the "symbols" you found, could this mark on the door actually be incomplete? I keep picturing (in my minds eye) that the hard line through the middle should extend farther up....and then possibly a curved line at the top of the extended hard line, like a "backwards p". And then (possibly) there are more lines through the middle hard line, like a person draws an asterisk by hand?
I don't know why I'm picturing this with the drawing the way it is.....my books are still packed up from moving.
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Post by lois on Nov 17, 2011 22:08:00 GMT -6
I have search through about 700 symbols today.. ;D ;D
Among these were all ancient symbols. Native American.. Latin . Roman Egyptian .. I must of looked at 100 meaning Protection. Friendship.. curses . .. my astigmatism has burned my eyeball out.. ;D
Only one even resembles the above if at all, it was a x with a long vertical line like the above. showing a tale like as it reach so far down below the x . at the top of the vertical line was a small backward c attached.
It was the earliest sign of the Christian Cross..
Nothing not nothing came close at all
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Post by auntym on Nov 17, 2011 22:45:01 GMT -6
i doodle something like this, but mine looks like a star.... i think this one (on the door) resembles a spider..... one of those creepy florida spiders.... i can't wait till you reveal the meaning too.... ;D
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Post by lois on Nov 18, 2011 0:47:40 GMT -6
auntym . I thought of spider yesterday myself when I first seen it..The first sign of the cross by early Christians was exactly like the above, but the top line closing the x was not in it.. otherwise it is identical.
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Post by lois on Nov 18, 2011 1:09:55 GMT -6
Alpha. the beginning..
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Post by Steve on Nov 18, 2011 1:27:22 GMT -6
You mean this?
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Post by lois on Nov 18, 2011 1:37:25 GMT -6
That's it Steve ..but the chi rho can be closed at the top. I tried just now to paste a photo and meaning to it.. but the stupid google search came up. There was one with the top close on it on google search.. Said it meant Alpha .. Abraham, the Beginning. When I went back those pictures come up random, so I could not fine the closed top one again..
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Post by lois on Nov 18, 2011 1:43:19 GMT -6
You still don't know if what is on the door is this early cross. I'm going to find the other one tomorrow. I searched all day and it is going on 2 am.. good nite.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2011 8:03:30 GMT -6
"You mean this? " (see steve's pic) I guess I did . I picture it more "crudely drawn". Funny how lois and I seemed to be considering "this" at the same time last night.....maybe. Putting something like this on a door, IMO, is akin to asking for "protection". Especially where it was put. Whatever the symbol turns out to be..... I do want to know, steve. Lois, I love how you keep at it, ;D
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Post by lois on Nov 18, 2011 11:44:19 GMT -6
All doodles are going to match something somewhere in History by accident.. To me this symbol should be considered.. as one never knows. This interest me so much as Aliens do not leave signs usually. Maybe in the fields in UK, but this was very personal
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Post by lois on Nov 18, 2011 13:28:31 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2011 11:00:20 GMT -6
"All doodles are going to match something somewhere in History by accident.. To me this symbol should be considered.. as one never knows. This interest me so much as Aliens do not leave signs usually" (lois, above) I agree. It sounds though, as steve put it, that this symbol is "ominous". And not a human fingernail? He also said this "symbol" may have been on the door before the person moved in. I imagine that steve is doing more research .
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Post by lois on Nov 19, 2011 16:12:34 GMT -6
I was not Switzerland but Norway.. I can't find the thread anywhere. Here is the video.. My point is are aliens making ancient signs to us? My last post above .
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Post by Steve on Nov 19, 2011 17:27:28 GMT -6
I was not Switzerland but Norway.. I can't find the thread anywhere. Here is the video.. My point is are aliens making ancient signs to us? My last post above . Giving Lois a hug. Don't hurt your eyes. Thanks for your help. please feel free to research. The person with this symbol wishes me to ask what Han thinks. I explained the circumstances about Han, and wishes me to ask. I don't quite understand the connection between a mark on a bedroom door and a failed Russian missile test (one of many it seems lately - fortunately things seem to be working better now for the Russians - failed ICBM tests not withstanding). Aliens deliberately leaving behind evidence? Anything could be so, but I think based on countless past reported experiences it is not their style to leave such evidence behind for us to find. They have a good record (but not perfect) of 'zero residual traces' remaining. Steve A very beautiful Russian launch under similar lighting conditions were the missile's guidance systems are working nominally and not spiraling out of control. Some UFO 'experts' say otherwise, problem is these experts are annoyingly experts in little else. Too self mesmerized to see beyond the obvious. I have always others surrounding me for the necessary reality checks. No alien signs here unfortunately.
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Post by paulette on Nov 19, 2011 19:55:57 GMT -6
This was beautifully horrible. Were there people aboard?
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