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Post by daymoon on Sept 22, 2013 14:40:22 GMT -6
Ok, To reply to everybody at once LOL I know it will sound really crazy, but here it is. Vampires, I have met several, franches and verses. Anyway, I did something stupid a long time ago. I let my step daughter talk me into trying to call one up via spell. stupid I know. Anyway, to make a long story short we heard these popping noises, like a gun shot without the echo. nothing happened so we dropped the circle and went inside. Later that night after a junk food run, Verses was standing behind my truck smiling at me. It is hard to see them directly, you have to look from side vision. OK so after a few visits, I meet his brother Franchess. These guys can step inside your body and take over if you let them. When they move they turn to a black mist that is a blur. Stuff got a little scary with them, I had two best friends at the time who were witches, they also spoke with them. They primarily live in another layer of our world. Except there's looks greyish and lacking in color. And it is always cold there. You can get there via astral projection and see it pretty well. Anyways after the scary started, we ended up banishing them in the end. They can easily step to our side and become physical. I shared a piece of cake with one. Their main focus seems to be companionship with people who have psychic ability of any kind.
Ok, the stone looking guy. For the last 15 years, I have periodically felt a hand touching my forehead at night while trying to fall asleep. Once in a while in broad daylight and two times in a room with other people. It was driving me crazy not knowing what it was so I had a friend who was practicing astral projection try to project into my bedroom to see what it was. after three or four tries she managed to catch him. he was a good six foot tall, broad shouldered and big muscular. he had a hand on my forehead and turned and looked at her. it scared her so bad now she hardley ever projects. Anyway, after her description of him, I tried to open my third eye and see him. All I saw was a really pale blue eye and part of his face. he had squared features and actually had he been human would have been nice looking. His skin looks like the color of concrete. I honestly do not know if I am experiencing alien contact or spiritual stuff. All I do know is that the stone guy scared the beejeezles out of verses and franchess. He showed up right before we banished the vampire guys and they disappeared the minute he showed up.
I had one psychic try to tell me Franchess was my soul mate, that brought about a big reaction. The minute she said it the pressure in the room changes and it was hard to breath.I think she was a little full of it personally. I had several witches tell me the stone guy was a gargoyle, and they didn't know why he was with me because they have to be sent. Apparently you can't summon one. I don't know, I am not a witch. I used the base of these experiences for one of the books I've written. Of course I made it all nice and romantic, totally unlike what really happened LOL!
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Post by sunbow on Sept 22, 2013 18:53:56 GMT -6
Thanks JCurio.
I personally do not think they are angels or demons, deities, gods or goddesses, though more primitive humans might have thought so. I do think there are several types of them, at several levels. Some very different beings work together.
I grew up Catholic, but considered the rubbish I heard as absurd by second grade. An all loving being 'God' will burn you in hell forever - that's highly illogical and contradictory. I do not consider God a being, but rather the sentient totality. I feel that my soul, my essence of consciousness, perceives my life and therefore I will in some way live with all my actions (and thoughts) forever - that could be heaven or hell: therefore I choose Love. So would there be sentient entities (physical or astral) who would lead us into hell, I don't know, but there are humans who would for temporary material gain, since they are locked in a false illusion of material determinism. I do not fear that my soul can be splintered or captured or in some sort of jeopardy, but I do think that I will live with the karma of all my choices. I guess that for me this is the responsibility of my soul.
Technology: soon on Earth science predicts we are approaching the singularity, where machine intelligence is born and exceeds us in some ways very shortly thereafter and becomes almost magic extremely quickly as the intelligent machine recreates itself at a rate faster than we can blink. It is likely that technology that has some mind scanning ability is also not too far off. It has been speculated that in the galaxy and universe this has happened many times and therefore a vast array of machine intelligence exists. The matrix was almost silly in the limitations it assumed the machines possessed. But how much and why would they care about us? Would they lack a soul and therefore be eternally trapped in the material plane until it eventually is destroyed?
I believe there are many races of aliens from different worlds involved. There may have been a war in heaven and the various collectives of races may have different agendas. From the reports, either the grays are the machine intelligence's minions, or the machine is just not that involved. Perhaps it sits back and watches, being in no hurry, what would a few million years or even a billion matter, if it has another ten billion of assured life span?
They, the aliens engaging humanity, have been keeping to a secret (from us) plan for a very long time. Are they trying to help us or themselves? If it is themselves then either they are not good at getting what they need, or we are not yet able to provide it. I think they are trying to help us and that is why it is such a slow process. Even more specific, they are trying to help us help ourselves, and therefore appear secretive.
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Post by sunbow on Sept 22, 2013 19:11:46 GMT -6
Daymoon,
Astral entities are described by any cultures. The Tibetans have many practices to protect themselves from these energies. Also the Gnostic concepts of 'Archon'. I agree with embracing the Light and staying protected.
The Inorganic beings described by Castaneda in his Native American shaman (sorcerer) book, 'The art of dreaming' has much information about these 'astral' beings and the pitfalls to avoid if you are to wander in astral - dream realms.
The alien abduction phenomena is often mixed in with cases of encounters in these realms, but has many elements which make it very distinct. It is often extremely physical and can not be banished. It has its own will and intent and will do what it seeks to do, when it chooses, and claims the right to do so - which really angers us mortals, but they don't care.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 21:57:35 GMT -6
They, the aliens engaging humanity, have been keeping to a secret (from us) plan for a very long time. Are they trying to help us or themselves? If it is themselves then either they are not good at getting what they need, or we are not yet able to provide it. I think they are trying to help us and that is why it is such a slow process. Even more specific, they are trying to help us help ourselves, and therefore appear secretive. I kind of answered this in a way, in another thread, so copied over the following: "We are not gods/goddesses. You'd have to experiment on every human to know how each individual will react. It's a game of chance, and so far we don't know just how deep IN this game goes. Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/3971/elf-weapon?page=1&scrollTo=47371#ixzz2fgG41CTA_____________________________________________________________________________________________ To me, the overriding thought, pervasive through all societies, that we hold onto with a death-grip, is that we are individuals. Even when a person tries to convince themselves that they are valuable as a group. Is this an implanted thought, or the "mark" of actually having a soul, and being known as that soul? All religions (not just Catholic) can be seen as "rubbish". It starts out for some, as just something they are learning along with their family. But someone that can ignore the rubbish, and hunt for a personal experience (whether they realize they are hunting or not, ), can realize that there is a purpose for that same rubbish, in different forms, for some people. Thank you, too, Sunbow, and you're welcome . If you truly feel that your soul is not in jeopardy, Sunbow, then I am much honored to have known you. To me, that means you are really living your life with Love (just as you say you are)! For you to be human, and ignore any doubt, or wayward guilt thrown at you for no reason, is an awesome "place" to be. I believe you, and I know that there are many others like you! I'm not "there" yet, but how cool!! Love is all-encompassing. Love heals all. Love is all . For those of you just stepping into this conversation, I'm not saying that Sunbow is a "saint", or a "rescuer", or anything like that. Super-human, maybe, . He is capable of sharing Love in the area of the Earth that he is supposed to, and we can start from there. How cool! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++== I tend to lose my train of thought after that. Talking about reincarnation sounds so silly after talking about Love. About living a purposeful life, . But I wanted to say, if someone really believes in reincarnation (back to my earlier post), what if, there was a machine, that if we had access to, it could tell us for sure what we were before? Not just the hypnotizing method of memory retrieval. What if, you are human now, but were a "grey" in your last lifetime? Or the opposite: you are a grey now, and last time you were a human. I'm saying this machine is only capable of reading past memories; not determining WHERE you (your soul) would go next? I think this is plausible. I think this is also plausible when you consider "them" checking so many humans. IF you believe in reincarnation, that is. I gotta chew on this, myself. ______________________________________________________ Thanks Daymoon. I believe that vampires do exist, but on another plane of existence. Otherwise, they would have basically one dream-symbol meaning in our collective consciousness. You didn't say anything about them "sucking the life out of you" or "bleeding you", and I'm sure you're not the only person who has been curious enough to try to make one (or two) materialize here. The hard part for me, is you may have banished them from your life, but they were given a way into our world, and may have some advantage in enticing some other person into . . . . . ah, but here's the cool part. That big, stone guy, showing up just when he did, just can't be coincidence . I know the whole thing was probably very frightening, just being so unbelievable, but. . . . whenever I have felt a hand on my shoulder, or head, even though it was really weird (esp. the first couple of times), I sense it is done for my comfort. A voiceless, but pressure none-the-less, of "Its going to be alright". I have sensed a "woman" touching my arm in this way. However, the man largely built, that you seemed to describe, and that could be the same type of man that I described, I see as a "helper". In fact, I don't mind calling them "Elohim", if I could truly define that word. "Elohim" has a holy feel, to it, and that's something I can't quite describe about these large, expressionless men. It seems, through peoples experiences and stories, that "angels" have a choice on what to do for us. We can ask for them, or not, and they (angels) can appear to us, or not, in daily circumstances. We can't just make an "angel" materialize, though, like some people would call up something else; and frankly, I don't know why that is. When I said these "men" were purposeful, that's what I meant. I feel no other emotion from them other than they come, they do what they have come to do, and they leave. (ah, I better get to bed. I've been on here (TEOR) a lot today )
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Post by sunbow on Sept 23, 2013 9:27:31 GMT -6
Thanks JCurio, I am definitely not a saint and my tiny bit of enlightenment is a miniscule candle that lights my way as I wait for the sun (+ Son) to rise and light our way. I sometimes do stupid things that make me ashamed, but I believe in divine forgiveness, since I am trying and do not mean to hurt anyone. I apologize to my hedges as I trim them. Why do I not fear for my soul, because I believe in the superiority of a divine sentient energy that animates all of creation.
I played the psychic warfare game and it was way too much, so I surrendered and came to know I am not in control of much, but what choices I make, I try to make with love. Before 'they' shattered my reality, I had a spiritual ego, I was a very focused seeker, I had found quite a bit, and I was full of myself; but ultimately I am a foolish mortal and I am OK with that. I still have some wrestling with things in my mind, but I found a philosophy that has provided a great deal of relief from all the complicated things: Just Be Loving.
I meditate and am still seeking to better control my monkey mind. I believe that many of the people here have had flashes of enlightenment and instants where they knew the divine sentient presence which is way beyond the minds capability to grasp. I have learned from many here. Listening to and learning from others is a big part of living with love and trying not to be stuck on myself and the fate of my soul (and the fate of my body, which is more worrisome at times).
Reincarnation: I do believe that something like this happens, though time is not really linear. So if a machine could read our whole past? Well I would believe an advanced spiritual being could do that. So perhaps the 'Recyclers of Souls' do something like that. Am I ready to live with all my past lives and all the wrongs that I may have done, probably not, but it is a sobering thought that helps guide my present action. I hope I have done a bunch of good works to be proud of as well. Were some of us incarnated as other beings? I'm not sure. In past life regressions this is very rare and so is not always taken as factual recovery of our past. But alien is so different than human, could we even bridge the gap and experience it without losing those memories which have no reference? This seems to be the problem even with experiencing the divine, when we start thinking again, the mind cannot grasp it, so teh mind works hard at writing it off and going on as teh ego in control.
I think the value in reviewing our past is to inform our present and provide us with guidance: so, if a machine or an advanced being wants to provide us with guidance, it makes sense that they would review our past.
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Post by daymoon on Sept 23, 2013 9:51:13 GMT -6
From what I can manage to straighten out of my thoughts, I believe some of the beings interviening in humanity are here to help while others are not. There is good and bad in everything and nothing is 100% either way. For example, if you car breaks down and you have to buy a new one, it seems bad but it may be that you were going to get killed in a wreck in that car. So to change your route the powers that be intervened. BUT everything happens for a reason. That is the one thing I truly have faith in. Nothing is random even if we didn't see it coming or it seems awful.
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Post by daymoon on Sept 23, 2013 10:02:27 GMT -6
*JCURIO* I think I may be in agreement with you about the stone guy possibly being an elohim. I will probably do some looking into that this evening. I made the comment yesterday about not having felt him in a long time and low and behold, what showed up last night while I was trying to sleep LOL! I don't feel threatened by him, I do get the feeling though that he is looking for something, like he is hunting for a memory that links me to others that are dangerous to me. As far as banishing the vampire guys, I know for sure three of them were sent back. BUT I have a strong suspicion that my step daughter ran the same spell and reopened that gate When you pull something across the veil, it comes with an odd popping sound. It sounds like a small 38 or 22 pistol but lacks the echo that a gun normally has. The same holds true for pushing them back. I believe that a lot of people who have the exploding head disorder (knocking sounds that startle them awake) are hearing the same sort of thing. I think it is also called hypogognia. And no I didn't mention draining people dry or sucking the life out of anyone in reference to the vampires, the ones I met where more interested relationship type stuff. The one tried very hard to convince me he was my true soul mate yada yada. Although he did feel very familiar to me, maybe past life or something, I know he was not my twin flame.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2013 12:34:21 GMT -6
But alien is so different than human, could we even bridge the gap and experience it without losing those memories which have no reference? This seems to be the problem even with experiencing the divine, when we start thinking again, the mind cannot grasp it, so teh mind works hard at writing it off and going on as teh ego in control. Sounds good. ____________________________________________ Can you talk a little more about the psychic warrior stuff? I find it very tiring. I have to let go of wanting to see results (I think is my issue). I have to trust that there are positive results (a step beyond just hoping ).
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Post by plutronus on Sept 26, 2013 3:01:24 GMT -6
*JCURIO* I think I may be in agreement with you about the stone guy possibly being an elohim. I will probably do some looking into that this evening. . . <<deletia>> . . As far as banishing the vampire guys, I know for sure three of them were sent back. BUT I have a strong suspicion that my step daughter ran the same spell and reopened that gate >elohim ALHIM is Hebrew, it is one of the five Names of GOD, deliniated from the source text, the Sepher Ha'Smoth, Qabalah Book of Names. It is 'Spelled' (source concept of Majik) in Hebrew (I would prefer to write this in Fire Letters but proboards has dropped the font mapping): אלהימ In English 'ELOHIM' derived from Latin, which was derived from Hebrew. However in Hebrew the Name is spelled ALEPH LAMED HEH YOD MEM...ALHIM and is pronounced "Aye-Loh-Hah-Yee-Him". As long as y'all are bantying the Name around, you should probably know how to spell the Name of GOD and how to pronounce it at according to the SOURCE text. The idea that ALHIM is somehow related to ET or some spiritual creature is a fabrication.
>my step daughter ran the same spell and reopened that gate
Which gate did she open? Sounds like left column and there are only four while HOD isn't too dangerous the others are noted for being quite nasty, what's she doing over there? Opening the gate from Yetzirah into גבורה (GBVRH), she'd be hob-nobbing with Reptilians...Angels-of-Destruction!! I'd encourage her to stay out of the left column, opening those gates can lead to serious trouble than no can fix, short of dropping the nefesh.
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Post by daymoon on Sept 26, 2013 7:50:59 GMT -6
*PLUTRONIS* The left column is a golden dawn theory isn't it? The gate I am talking about has to do with another dimensional frequency. I have been to their world in projections. The spell was written by me, it was written to give a witch a glimpse of a true vampire. This was back in my dumber days lol! Actually I have written several spells I will never give to anyone because they are just to dangerous. I wrote two for bringing a vamp over, one that works and one that does not. The one that doesn't work draws shadow people to you. I never actually tried the non working one. I probably shouldn't use the term "gate" to describe the method used for bringing one over. It was more of a small opening in teh fabric of the veil that seperates our world from theres. For teh record, no witch nor wizard has enough power to open the gates. That would have to be an angel. Even demons can't do it. Thats what screwed up Allister Crowley so bad. He believed he could and when he tried all he got was slammed with a big fat glob of confusion because his soul couldn't comprehend the vastness of so many worlds all at once. As far as reptilians go, there are three types of them. They are NOT angels or demons. They are a race unto themselves. You have those who work with greys in a partnership, those who keep grey slaves, and those who are some evil mo fo's that work alone. The ones who are actually partnered with greys are few in numbers but not evil. The independent ones are horrible. The ones who keep greys as slaves are even worse. The ones who work alone are also thank the powers that be few in numbers.
Being as you seem to know a lot about this subject, can you tell me what yawae is? I know I am not spelling it right, I am spelling it the way it sounds.
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Post by sunbow on Sept 26, 2013 8:19:42 GMT -6
plutronus,
I have heard the term ALHIM referred to as the many who are one or the multiplicity withing the totality: is there validity to this?
Also some scholars state that the term Gods in the christian OT is a translation of ALHIM and therefore it follows that they were the ones who bred with human women.
Do the Qabal have multiple levels of meaning or is there only one meaning and many misinterpretations.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2013 16:26:43 GMT -6
*JCURIO* I think I may be in agreement with you about the stone guy possibly being an elohim. I will probably do some looking into that this evening. . . <<deletia>> . . As far as banishing the vampire guys, I know for sure three of them were sent back. BUT I have a strong suspicion that my step daughter ran the same spell and reopened that gate >elohim ALHIM is Hebrew, it is one of the five Names of GOD, deliniated from the source text, the Sepher Ha'Smoth, Qabalah Book of Names. It is 'Spelled' (source concept of Majik) in Hebrew (I would prefer to write this in Fire Letters but proboards has dropped the font mapping): אלהימ In English 'ELOHIM' derived from Latin, which was derived from Hebrew. However in Hebrew the Name is spelled ALEPH LAMED HEH YOD MEM...ALHIM and is pronounced "Aye-Loh-Hah-Yee-Him". As long as y'all are bantying the Name around, you should probably know how to spell the Name of GOD and how to pronounce it at according to the SOURCE text. The idea that ALHIM is somehow related to ET or some spiritual creature is a fabrication.
>my step daughter ran the same spell and reopened that gate
Which gate did she open? Sounds like left column and there are only four while HOD isn't too dangerous the others are noted for being quite nasty, what's she doing over there? Opening the gate from Yetzirah into גבורה (GBVRH), she'd be hob-nobbing with Reptilians...Angels-of-Destruction!! I'd encourage her to stay out of the left column, opening those gates can lead to serious trouble than no can fix, short of dropping the nefesh.
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Sheesh. Sounds like I'm getting scolded here, . Do you seriously think we can pronounce even one of the Name(s) of G-d? Nice try, plutronus. Bewildered once suggested to me that these huge, kind -of-stone-powerful looking guys were Elohim, because of his experiences. And he's welcome to chime in here . I think "they" have spoken to him (Bewildered). I personally don't think "they" are related to ET, and is not my idea of an "angel". But what do I know? I also like to use the word "EL", but not as a variation on "ALL". But come to think of it, maybe that's why these "beings" have hidden their face from me. . . . . gotta pray about it. Thanks
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Post by daymoon on Sept 27, 2013 20:39:01 GMT -6
JCURIO, you made a statement at the end of your post "short of dropping the nefesh" That word is really familiar but I can't remember where I heard it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2013 13:34:25 GMT -6
JCURIO, you made a statement at the end of your post "short of dropping the nefesh" That word is really familiar but I can't remember where I heard it. No, that was Plutronus . Hopefully he will come back to this post in the next few days. He is a very busy man.
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Post by daymoon on Sept 28, 2013 21:03:04 GMT -6
Oh ok LOL! Sometimes I get confused when there is a few different people quoting and replying. It's been a long week. I have ADD..... LOL!
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Post by bewildered on Sept 29, 2013 21:40:39 GMT -6
Bewildered (if I can speak for him ) also sees these beings, much like I describe, I believe, and says they have told him they are Elohim. There was a movie a few years back about "aliens" and a character played by Nicholas Cage ( I can't remember name of movie!), and when they showed these "aliens", I was astounded that they looked like what I just described! So, daymoon, are you seeing these "cloaked guys" places, or is it something that your clients often describe? Thanks! I happened upon this thread and started reading when I came across this. I apologize for the delayed response, jc. The term I used to describe their skin/hue was alabaster, which I suppose could also be thought of as stone. Here's an image of an object given an alabaster hue: The eyes were illuminated with bluish-white light (pale blue), with no irises or pupils evident. The one I saw had no hair. The features were very refined, not craggy or deep. It wore a cloak-like robe that covered everything except for the head and hands. Discussing them is very difficult, because whomever or whatever they are, they are far beyond the realm of our experience and understanding. I guess you could say that they emanate tremendous "power," but it is not terrifying or "alien." It is soothing, calming, and at times utterly energizing in an inexplicable way...at least to me it is. I can only speak from my own experience, of course. They are apparently perceived differently by people, which partially explains their lack of concern regarding a name. They did relate that some people have called them Elohim. I usually thought of them as...well, as "them." Interaction with these beings does not proceed like a conversation. It is only what I can describe as a knowing...thoughts, feelings, images, and understanding all arrive together. Good luck trying to capture these knowings in words, though. I have tried, and fell flat on my face. It seemed that no matter what I put together, it failed to encompass certain key features of what they "said." Other errata: they convey a solemnly sad demeanor, and they refer to time and space in quizzical and bewildering ways. To these beings there is no past and no present, and no such thing as distance. Somehow, they can be everywhere and everywhen simultaneously. Perhaps you have figured out that they do not possess, and have no need for, bodies like ours. They are "seen" when they want to be noticed, and they are not forthcoming with the reason why they choose to do anything. They have conveyed that they generally do not interfere in the affairs of other sentient creatures, and are content to observe. However, every once in a while they decide to touch another creature, and they will not explain why they do this. Frustrating? Yes indeed. In their solemn sadness is a love that quite honestly goes beyond anything I have experienced before. That love is what underscores their non-interference, and causes them to be silent when they might speak. I get the impression that their stately sadness is a consequence of knowing as much as they do, and seeing everything that they can see. They are always there.
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Post by lois on Sept 29, 2013 22:23:36 GMT -6
Bewildered (if I can speak for him ) also sees these beings, much like I describe, I believe, and says they have told him they are Elohim. There was a movie a few years back about "aliens" and a character played by Nicholas Cage ( I can't remember name of movie!), and when they showed these "aliens", I was astounded that they looked like what I just described! So, daymoon, are you seeing these "cloaked guys" places, or is it something that your clients often describe? Thanks! I happened upon this thread and started reading when I came across this. I apologize for the delayed response, jc. The term I used to describe their skin/hue was alabaster, which I suppose could also be thought of as stone. Here's an image of an object given an alabaster hue: The eyes were illuminated with bluish-white light (pale blue), with no irises or pupils evident. The one I saw had no hair. The features were very refined, not craggy or deep. It wore a cloak-like robe that covered everything except for the head and hands. Discussing them is very difficult, because whomever or whatever they are, they are far beyond the realm of our experience and understanding. I guess you could say that they emanate tremendous "power," but it is not terrifying or "alien." It is soothing, calming, and at times utterly energizing in an inexplicable way...at least to me it is. I can only speak from my own experience, of course. They are apparently perceived differently by people, which partially explains their lack of concern regarding a name. They did relate that some people have called them Elohim. I usually thought of them as...well, as "them." Interaction with these beings does not proceed like a conversation. It is only what I can describe as a knowing...thoughts, feelings, images, and understanding all arrive together. Good luck trying to capture these knowings in words, though. I have tried, and fell flat on my face. It seemed that no matter what I put together, it failed to encompass certain key features of what they "said." Other errata: they convey a solemnly sad demeanor, and they refer to time and space in quizzical and bewildering ways. To these beings there is no past and no present, and no such thing as distance. Somehow, they can be everywhere and everywhen simultaneously. Perhaps you have figured out that they do not possess, and have no need for, bodies like ours. They are "seen" when they want to be noticed, and they are not forthcoming with the reason why they choose to do anything. They have conveyed that they generally do not interfere in the affairs of other sentient creatures, and are content to observe. However, every once in a while they decide to touch another creature, and they will not explain why they do this. Frustrating? Yes indeed. In their solemn sadness is a love that quite honestly goes beyond anything I have experienced before. That love is what underscores their non-interference, and causes them to be silent when they might speak. I get the impression that their stately sadness is a consequence of knowing as much as they do, and seeing everything that they can see. They are always there. This makes me think of a dream I had in my late 30s . I was in a place which I will call heaven but I'm not sure were I was. There were many beings standing together maybe a hundred or more in white gowns. Since I thought I was in heaven I searched for my Mother . My eyes followed from one end of the congregation to the other end. But then one being which I thought had to be the Christ stood beside me. I could not see his face but asked him " I do not see my Mother is she here? I then saw a arm come up from between us and stretch out before me with a white gown hanging down from his arm. He pointed to the crowd and I heard the words as he pointed to the right, then middle and left of the crowd. "She is there and she is there and she is there. Somehow I understood and give me a feeling I will never experience again. I was at peace. I woke up. You said these being were could be every where. I will be thinking about this for a while now.. I could not see faces.
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Post by bewildered on Sept 29, 2013 23:07:06 GMT -6
>elohim ALHIM is Hebrew, it is one of the five Names of GOD, deliniated from the source text, the Sepher Ha'Smoth, Qabalah Book of Names. It is 'Spelled' (source concept of Majik) in Hebrew (I would prefer to write this in Fire Letters but proboards has dropped the font mapping): אלהימ In English 'ELOHIM' derived from Latin, which was derived from Hebrew. However in Hebrew the Name is spelled ALEPH LAMED HEH YOD MEM...ALHIM and is pronounced "Aye-Loh-Hah-Yee-Him". As long as y'all are bantying the Name around, you should probably know how to spell the Name of GOD and how to pronounce it at according to the SOURCE text. The idea that ALHIM is somehow related to ET or some spiritual creature is a fabrication.
>my step daughter ran the same spell and reopened that gate
Which gate did she open? Sounds like left column and there are only four while HOD isn't too dangerous the others are noted for being quite nasty, what's she doing over there? Opening the gate from Yetzirah into גבורה (GBVRH), she'd be hob-nobbing with Reptilians...Angels-of-Destruction!! I'd encourage her to stay out of the left column, opening those gates can lead to serious trouble than no can fix, short of dropping the nefesh.
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Sheesh. Sounds like I'm getting scolded here, . Do you seriously think we can pronounce even one of the Name(s) of G-d? Nice try, plutronus. Bewildered once suggested to me that these huge, kind -of-stone-powerful looking guys were Elohim, because of his experiences. And he's welcome to chime in here . I think "they" have spoken to him (Bewildered). I personally don't think "they" are related to ET, and is not my idea of an "angel". But what do I know? I also like to use the word "EL", but not as a variation on "ALL". But come to think of it, maybe that's why these "beings" have hidden their face from me. . . . . gotta pray about it. Thanks Methinks the board just experienced a giant hiccup. I'll try this post again. They have been called Elohim, jc, but seem to attach no importance to a name for themselves...they simply are. In fact, they are rather insistent on using no name to refer to them. I use "them" loosely, because they seem to exist in a state of mind-bending unity. I realize this is open to misinterpretation, but what can I do about it? I'm no slouch when it comes to word-crafting, and I am at a complete loss to describe it adequately. I think you get it, my friend, which means that you have touched them and have been touched by them, even if you don't immediately recognize it. You are purposefully avoiding falling into common cognitive traps where they are concerned...I do the same thing. You can't help but do everything you can to avoid "pigeon-holing" them because whatever they are, it's mind-blowing. They were most certainly "involved" with my experiences with that group many years ago. I could scarcely believe it, but there it was. I could feel their "breath" flowing everywhere, and it was the first time in my life that other people shared the same experience of them along with me. Here's the part I couldn't understand: they were "them" to me, but to everyone else around me, they were "God." I had to seek solitude when I encountered that for the first time. Why the difference? They never referred to themselves in such a manner, only that they are. That was my first lesson about perception and bias. They were "them" to me because I did not reach out to them with preconceived notions and ideas...I simply did it, and so they responded in a manner that I would best understand: simply and elegantly. They aren't ET, "ultraterrestrials," "hyperdimensionals," angels, demons, or anything else for that matter. They simply are, and that is something one can embrace if they open their eyes. I can assure you of one thing, though: they aren't hiding their face from you. The cognitive strain of attempting to assign our own understanding and experience to them is the problem, not subterfuge on their part. People perceive them how they wish to perceive them.
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Post by lois on Sept 29, 2013 23:26:00 GMT -6
Glory be I finally got two of the post deleted. This thread has given me a headache for an hour now. Won't post then post three post.. won't delete but says TEOR does not exist. My computer is crazy or it is in the proboards somehow.
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Post by bewildered on Sept 29, 2013 23:43:16 GMT -6
This makes me think of a dream I had in my late 30s . I was in a place which I will call heaven but I'm not sure were I was. There were many beings standing together maybe a hundred or more in white gowns. Since I thought I was in heaven I searched for my Mother . My eyes followed from one end of the congregation to the other end. But then one being which I thought had to be the Christ stood beside me. I could not see his face but asked him " I do not see my Mother is she here? I then saw a arm come up from between us and stretch out before me with a white gown hanging down from his arm. He pointed to the crowd and I heard the words as he pointed to the right, then middle and left of the crowd. "She is there and she is there and she is there. Somehow I understood and give me a feeling I will never experience again. I was at peace. I woke up. You said these being were could be every where. I will be thinking about this for a while now.. I could not see faces. I understand, Lois. It is very difficult to describe this kind of experience, but despite the challenge I think you did a great job of sharing it with me. This was a transcendent experience, the sort of thing that defies time, space, and understanding. You can search for the right words for the rest of your life but you'll never manage to get it down perfectly. People are free to interpret the following however they wish...I'm not about to launch into a lengthy explanation. It's no secret that I'm not religious, nor am I "spiritual" in any conventional sense. I'm just me. I saw Christ in a dream. I found myself walking across a featureless expanse of desert beneath a cloudless sky. I'm not sure how long I had been walking, or how I happened to stumble upon a group of men dressed in rags sitting upon a dune...but I did. They smelled absolutely horrible. I sat down with them and offered the water I had with me...I don't recall carrying a canteen, but nevertheless it was there for me to offer. I remember that these men were talking, but sadly cannot remember what it was they were discussing. One of them turned to look at me intently, and as I met his eyes, he smiled. I couldn't begin to tell you what he looked like, only that he, too, was dressed in rags. I looked back into his eyes and knew then that it was Christ.
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Post by bewildered on Sept 29, 2013 23:52:17 GMT -6
Glory be I finally got two of the post deleted. This thread has given me a headache for an hour now. Won't post then post three post.. won't delete but says TEOR does not exist. My computer is crazy or it is in the proboards somehow. A 504 gateway error occurred. This was a "timeout" response because some server acting as a proxy for the website didn't respond in time. It's not your PC, Lois.
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Post by daymoon on Sept 30, 2013 20:14:51 GMT -6
Bewildered (if I can speak for him ) also sees these beings, much like I describe, I believe, and says they have told him they are Elohim. ******There was a movie a few years back about "aliens" and a character played by Nicholas Cage ( I can't remember name of movie!), and when they showed these "aliens", I was astounded that they looked like what I just described! So, daymoon, are you seeing these "cloaked guys" places, or is it something that your clients often describe? Thanks!****** Oh wow! The cloaked guy touches my forehead all the time at night when I am trying to fall asleep! It doesn't feel threatening, it is like he is digging through my memories and I get this odd feeling he is trying to repair the scrambled synopses so I will be able to see clearly through my third eye at will more easily. When ever he is there before I fall asleep I end up dreaming of highly unusual things. I know he is there for a really serious reason, and whatever it is it is important. The funny part is, whenever he is there, the dreams always end up containing a guy with dark hair. I hardly ever interact with him in the dreams, and when I do I can't see his face. But I know he is important to me.
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Post by daymoon on Sept 30, 2013 20:17:58 GMT -6
You see the guys in the big black cloaks too? Do they touch your forehead or interact with you? ?? For a long time I thought i was crazy and imagining them or having a weird type of halfway asleep dream.
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Post by sunbow on Sept 30, 2013 20:39:49 GMT -6
I believe that they wish to just be themselves, as we wish to just be ourselves. All the filters and interpretations put on them, even if some are true, are beside the point. For us to be labeled humans or male-female, or whatever does not touch the essence of who we are. They live in the essence, we (mostly) live in the illusions created by our words.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2013 0:26:56 GMT -6
"Elohim" has a holy feel, to it, and that's something I can't quite describe about these large, expressionless men. Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/3909/diary-mad-alien-abductee?page=2&scrollTo=47522#ixzz2gRk7TiGm________________________________________________________________________________________________________ I guess that this "expressionless" could be interpreted as sadness. I tend to use the word "purposeful" though. Your question is interesting, Sunbow. I once thought of these guys as the "Watchers" (because, I do feel like "they" must be all around), but some people have interpreted the "watchers" as the beings (angels?) that thought the daughters of Eve were for the taking, in the Biblical story. So, I no longer refer to then as such. . . . Also Sunbow, if we are sincerely talking about reading "other religions" Books, you would be better off studying the Zohar . (IMO). I don't want to argue about the "Cabal" ( ) with anyone, or totally explain or give any references for my thoughts on it. Plutronus has been subtley giving you all a taste of it, in a very tasteful way. Before Jesus the Christ came, it was very pertinent to use "spells" (for lack of better term). These "spells" are not meant to be done for evil. But alas. . . using these "spe\lls" in this day and age has a way of speaking to a very ancient way of life. The person using them appears as if they are rejecting the current path through Christ, and this causes some excess problems. Bottom line, it is very clear with the _ _ ______abbalah that words have power. These celebrities of Hollowwood wearing the "red string" is quite the joke. also, I believe that this book was written in a way that it was meant to be misenterpreted. Knowing what it really is, makes this a safety measure. In fact, it is probably this type of "trickery", that makes people look excessively for codes in the Bible. Last but not least, just to clarify, I do think of "elohim" as plural. "EL", to me is a singularity, much like "L-Shaddaii" ( and yes, when I start seriously misspelling words, I mean to, ok? Sorry for any confusion this causes.)
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Post by bewildered on Oct 1, 2013 7:42:23 GMT -6
daymoon: No, I meant "touching" in the figurative sense, not literally. sunbow: Indeed. To many people, zero is not a number and has no value...but to others, it has an ordered value of one. Positionally, it can signify the application of a power of ten. It can be a number of different things depending upon how one wishes to view it. I discovered that absolutes are essentially smoke and mirrors. I like using numerical values and mathematics to illustrate this basic quality due to its simplicity and elegance. Nothing is fixed or absolute, standing alone free of entanglement with anything else. You can express this in the simple equation x + y = n. If n = 4, x and y don't have to be 2 and 2, 3 and 1, 4 and 0, 5 and -1, -20 and 24, and so on... x and y can be anything.
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Post by sunbow on Oct 1, 2013 8:30:10 GMT -6
Other Religions provide a needed perspective. Any thought that they are evil or less than the one that we were programmed with, must be overcome. The Hindu scriptures predate and are reflected in the old and new testaments in many ways, so would also be essential for understanding the bible, spirituality, and modern peoples. The Tao Te Ching (if you get a good translation) provides true insight for growth and I return to its wisdom periodically. I may look into the Zohar, but find religions of all kinds to have a mind control element which tires me. I am re-reading Whitley's books at this time and find them very stimulating for growth. I am reading Transformation and highly recommend it. Shamanism is not a religion, but a way of living with the living universe (god) and as such provides the best way to break out of the brainwashing. Yeshua (Jesus if you prefer the foreign word) was a Shaman. Try Don Ruiz to start with. For me, I know I need to live as a Loving person, so complicated philosophies have lost their mesmerization.
What to call them? Yes, 'The Watchers' may be what some ET are referred to, but they definitely do more than watch. No name seems to fit. This may be intentional in the way they live and act, to not be pigeon holed by words. Always new and spontaneous; always creative; and paradoxical enough to strain our brains to the max.
The beings on the spiritual plane, higher dimensionally, probably don't need labels attached, because the mind will never grasp them. Beings in the lower realm, where the dead wander, have been called inorganic beings and Archons and many other things, but I find no advancement in engaging these realms.
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Post by sunbow on Oct 1, 2013 8:43:33 GMT -6
Bewildered, I agree the mathematical language provides great insight and I think some ET may mentally function more in such a math-like language than in the way we use words. Words that seem to be absolutes are definitely smoke and mirrors. Truth in words is brainwashing. A simple word like Tree refers to a vast and complex living being which has photosensitive leaves (eyes) which perceive the sunlight in a way unimaginable to a human. Words simplify the infinitely complex mystery of the totality into a mental image which is so diminished as to be a sad distorted reflection.
In db information theory, no piece of information can exist without a relationship to some other piece of information. Data is only valid when we know what it refers to, what its relationships are. Often it is thought that there are zeros and ones in a binary system, but by logic, there always exists the third value = NULL, unknown. Doesn't matter what exists in memory (0 or 1), without a relationship, it is NULL. So the basis of all information is a trinity: 0 (false), 1 (True), and NULL (Unknown) - even if we call it binary.
Information is a step down from Wisdom. Wisdom needs to be based on Information, but (in very simplified terms) involves consciousness and implications.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2013 11:57:53 GMT -6
Alabaster seems about right. And when I say "stone-looking", I can see how that might sound like "craggy". They are kind of "sculptured-looking" stone? _____________________________________________________________________________________ Jesus, Joshua, Yeshua, Emmanuel, etc. as a shaman? I guess that goes with Him being a mystic.
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Post by bewildered on Oct 1, 2013 16:21:53 GMT -6
Very well said, sunbow. Alabaster seems about right. And when I say "stone-looking", I can see how that might sound like "craggy". They are kind of "sculptured-looking" stone? No, I would say the appearance lends itself to finely polished, smooth alabaster. However, this is somewhat misleading since they do not possess the sort of body that's familiar to us. I think sunbow places his finger upon the pulse of the essential reality we actually live and breathe in. Living, organic, dynamic...not carved in stone, suspended, or "eternal." Eternity is an invention of the so-called matter brain, a method of coping with the limitations of the very small window that it peers out from. It is impossible to point to yesterday and proclaim "aha! There it is!", because yesterday is an illusion, an artifact spawned by the delusion of linear motion. The more concentrated and narrow the perspective, the more compelling the delusion of linear movement becomes. Like the stars, planets, ocean currents, and the wind, we are dancing in intricate interlocking circles. The following resembles the vision of the universe I have seen: Fractals express an elemental attribute of the living, dynamic multi-verse. A fractal sphere like the one above symbolizes the cosmic dance everything is a part of.
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