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Post by patsbox7 on Apr 13, 2016 5:01:42 GMT -6
Obviously my dogs provide major relief and joy. Don't get me wrong, my kids are my everything, but my dogs whole universe revolves around my wife and I. If they could speak, they would make it very clear my wife and I are their everything, and they don't have to say a word. They express their overwhelming love for us with a simple gaze, a wagging tail, and curling up trying desperately to become one when it's bed or nap time. It is unconditional love if they are nurtured, and not abused, and unlike children, will always depend on us for everything. If an all loving God exists, certainly dogs provide a glimpse of the pure exotic magnetism that no human should go without we call love.
Personally, I think, it's the way we should all view each other. Yet avoid for the most part. As humans have decided to reserve such intimacy for only close family and friends.
Did something go wrong? I think horribly. If I have to force myself to even view a stranger with 1/100th of the care I have for my own family, let alone pets, we had to have taken a very wrong turn as a whole.
Hopefully the light will prevail as the night sky sure does paint a bleak picture of how insignificant we may be, as each star is less than a grain of sand on earth in the grand scheme of things.
My internal struggle of our place in the universe does offer the possibility that although we may be nothing to the incomprehensibly large observable universe, just maybe consciousness in fact was the purpose here. As the question of whether a tree falls with no observer to hear it, does it make a sound? Well would this universe even exist without an observer? Quantum physics proves that our strange reality does in fact change when observed, which gives me slight hope that maybe we are destined to live on as pure consciousness and the void of dreamless sleep is nothing but an illusion to create doubt that it's lights out and nothing more.
During my encounter, I asked about that. The concept that was injected emphasized that here we revolve around our perceived reality and the void, when this chapter is over the void is revealed to be the infinity that the waiting room religions call heaven uses to create a lucid reality that is whatever you want. After we get bored in the so called ultimate reality, it's on to another classroom to evolve and advance ourselves. It's a nice thought, but I struggle with the conflicts and possibility that this may in fact simply be a meaningless infinity. Lights out, game over, and the universe forgets you as quickly as the ant you didn't even notice you ran over parking tonight.
No clue where all that came from, but it sure is hard being a thinker sometimes. One of my college professors claimed that facing mortality was in his opinion vital to living a meaningful life. I couldn't disagree more as it causes me to circle endlessly, desperately trying to get any kind of comfort only to find confusion and deep frustration that I will continue to end up where I stared at with a shred of hope mixed with a side of doubt and emotions I can hardly endure. All of this, our loved ones, music, favorite influential people, music, art, scientific achievements will return to dust in the end. That is fact. What if that was just that? A flash of awareness in a void of nothingness. Very possible, and my biggest fear.
My question to anyone who cares to dive in, is what are your views on mortality? If you have come to a conclusion of some sort, are you so sure that you can honestly claim to be fearless of death? For any athiests that may be lurking, and care to speak up, so you simply ignore your fate, are you afraid, or does it motivate you to make the best of this nano second of time we have relative to the time that has already passed?
Believers, are you truly convinced? Or are you honestly just hopefully optimistic.
Most importantly, has anyone here conqured the fear of death to the point where you would bet everything that a half loaded revolver, spun, and trigger pulled your heart rate, anxiety and flight instinct would not measurably change?
No need to answer these very personal and hypothetical questions. I don't want to start a religious and if philosophical debate here.
Please feel free to add your thoughts, as I know I'm not the only one who dives in the deep end where few dare to venture on this type of forum.
For the most part, I simply distract myself with the positive as best as I can. However, with recent events, I have decided to take another look, and I wish I could say I found something concrete, but have not as I need proof of evidence. I envy faith driven people, and maybe you don't need proof, but I do.
So, for me personally, it's a violent spiral that I compare to revolving around a rotating accretion disk, and see everyone reacting one way or another whether they are open or closed about it. Until gravity takes its course on me, and I pass into the event horizon of death, all I see is nothingness. My imagination and occasional influences are nothing but an illusion until I cross that threashold. My hopes are all the light that we have been deprived of, along with all familiar and higher consciousness is awaiting as well, but alas, it's pitch black covered by a veil that confronts me personally with a very real possibility of pure and simple nothingness.
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Post by patsbox7 on Apr 13, 2016 3:07:36 GMT -6
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Post by patsbox7 on Apr 13, 2016 2:59:47 GMT -6
We don't have those problems where I live. I wouldn't be so sure. You may have a higher chance of hitting the lottery than dealing with a similar problem, but I never in a million years imagined something like this could happen where I live either. I moved from an area where I was hundreds of times more likely to encounter such a scenario, only to discover this slow moving city that is surrounded by rural outskirts housed dangerous freaks as well. 1% is roughly the population ratio of these guys, and remember, they would like nothing more than to have you believe they aren't stocking your heard. Odds are slim but I wouldn't discount the possibility that one has they're sights set on a place where everyone feels safe and secure enough to go about business, not even noticing them blending in with whatever your typical demographic of people are. Don't be afraid, but don't for a second underestimate their ability to blend like a chameleon until they find a mark. Btw, I wasn't even a chosen mark. A series of freak occurrences got me in this mess. Hindsight is 20/20, I was in the wrong place at the wrong time, duped and now fear one has a vendetta against me since they were out witted, and lost a big hand. All I can do is hope to god that I'm more trouble than it's worth to them, and continue to have eyes in the back of my head until I'm 100% certain the threat is gone. One thing I failed to mention is even though during the face to face encounters, I showed no fear. I was pissing myself on the inside, but could clearly see the frustration I caused him by not giving him the satisfaction of fearing his tactics that obviously work on all of his other victims. This is either going to bore him to seek out someone who will openly fear him, or motivate him to up the stakes in order to elicit the response he thirsts for out of me. Let's hope it's option one.
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Post by patsbox7 on Apr 12, 2016 9:26:58 GMT -6
Lol I could take that sooo many ways. Thing is, if ur talking guns, if I'm pulling a gun on someone I'm 100% ready to take lethal shots. And in my state, you better be able to prove without a doubt he was a lethal threat, or there is clear evidence they had intent to harm. IE Affirmative Defense law in my state clearly says you have to prove you used appropriate force for the situation. Meaning dude kicks my door down at 3a, has no weapon, I shoot and kill him, I am looking at prison time. I know you're kidding half and all, however - "Self Defense The law gives everyone the right to defend themselves with a reasonable response. Self-defense is an affirmative defense to a charged violent crime. This means if someone is charged with murder, or assault, they can use self-defense as a legal excuse for the conduct if they can prove it in a court of law. Source - See more at: criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/may-i-shoot-an-intruder.html#sthash.tzl1fsCT.dpuf So nice knowing my local Leo's refused to charge the guy with extortion, which he was clearly attempting, yet recently they locked a man up for shooting a man attempting to steal his car right out of his driveway. Since when are criminals more protected than the victims? Since they figured out criminals have no resources to drain, and tax paying victims have money for lawyers, bail, phone time when locked up, and money to pay fines in order to keep their licenses. They cut the cold blooded killer some slack, and only hit him with six months, plus probation = fees, a hefty fine and private lawyer retainers, which I would bet throw kick backs to someone on the "other side". My friend who is an ex-prosecutor, husband to a local judge, and defense attorney admitted it's a rigged nasty game that nobody can beat. It's a matter of how bad you're railroaded. Guilty until proven innocent, and you should avoid any charge at all costs. Having first hand experience in it, for a very minor charge that stemmed from a false allegation literally ruined me in every way possible for a solid three years. Mind you this was with resources, a private lawyer, and no evidence against me at all. My choice was take a deal for a minor charge that would ruin me for three years, which wasn't disclosed, or risk a trial, and if convicted face a major charge that would ruin me for a decade and guarantee me a year in prison. Luckily, there are people who will fight for you, but they can only do so much without risking their careers. I was advised that if this upstanding extortion plotting scum kicks my door down, make sure he's dead so there isn't another version of events, and be sure he had a weapon, even if that means planting one. Insane to say the least, and I wish I didn't have to stress about this very real possibility. I'll take a week of abductions, including the memories with eyeball extraction to be able to ensure that this would just go away. Scared, and angry is an under statement, and victims of freak occurrences like mine shouldn't have to go through this. The Greys are welcome compared to this threat. At least they generally don't pose a lethal threat usually, and lack of compassion is a byproduct of viewing is like lab rats as opposed to just plain evil. Greys, if you're reading this, get rid of this monster for good and you have my permission to run me through the program for two weeks. Amazing how I saw an amazing display the other night and couldn't care less as I'm dealing with a much nastier species that is not human yet appears as one. I just have this awful nagging gut feeling that this isn't over, and he will wait until I think it is to strike when my guard is down. Let me tell you, looking over your shoulder daily, being armed and ready, and listening for the slightest irregular sound is not fun. I truly feel for those living in real war zones as this small taste is bitter and terrifying. My loving dogs provide much needed relief though, and still bring a smile to my face every day. It's so ironic too because everything else in my life couldn't be better other than this potential threat. God help me, I really need some closure to this...
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Post by patsbox7 on Apr 12, 2016 8:14:39 GMT -6
Well I had enough at this point, and texted the perp from my office VOIP line. I informed him I was a lawyer representing me and my family, and he needed to return the vehicle or he and the car would be reported as it didn't belong to me, but the company I worked for, and they had found out. I also added the cameras and LoJack would be activated within 24hrs of the car want left in any public place of his choice. I called him, pretending to be frantic, scared for me and my family's well being, and distanced myself from the police. I also informed him I couldn't talk anymore as my company was tracking our conversation. Now, knowing this guy was a meth head, I bet my bottom dollar he was losing his mind with paranoia at this point, which I later confirmed he was. A week goes by, and I had pretty much given up. Insurance calls for two weeks before they pay out. Well the Sunday, about a week and a half after the initial ordeal, a random call comes through. Says his name is bob, and interviews me about what happened. He says he has my car, and will drop it off the next day. Next day I get a text of the location, it's there low and behold, and for the most part in decent shape. Crazy, I know. Fast forward about month down the road. I get a knock on the door around 3p. Open the door not thinking anything of it, and turns out to be car thief. "Where's my FU***NG money" Jes** Chri**... "What money???!!! " " Don't FU** WITH ME, ILL COME AFTE... " Act like I see my neighbor, of course nobody was home at the time, get him to look away... SLAM FOOT HITS FORCE HIM OUT LOCK " I'm getting my shotgun and calling 911" I yell trying my best not to quiver in my tone. Duck down, call 911, answer dispatches interrogation... He appears to be gone, cop shows up, describe him, and he says he's going to check the area. 20-30min pass, I gather the guts to go on the porch and hear him taunting me. Whistling, yelling, whatever, call 911 again to report he's back. This time they sent a chopper less than 200-300ft above my neighborhood within five minutes. Not sure if they got him or what. But my point here is, flight is always your best option. Always involve the authorities immediately as they can do more than just you can, and use your wits. I ran into a guy that was contacting for a friend that knew the perp. Turned out the scare tactic with the rigged car had him SO scared he thoughts holograms and live satellite-based drones were constantly after him. Now this was a tweaker, but point is, most criminals aren't very smart. If they were, they would be rich because they are good at it. Use every bit of leverage you can. In my case, it was my intelligence, and getting him to underestimate me. Never get scared to contact the police, and just use your gut. If something doesn't seem right, it probably isn't. Really sucks knowing this guy knows where I live, but that whole time when he had my car, he thought I was afraid to call the cops. When he showed at my door, I made it VERY clear I wasn't, and will call immediately. I'm HOPING that scared him to another target. It's a shame I have to carry a 9mm on me now, as I just don't feel safe. Word is, this is a bad dude with nothing to lose. Someone with nothing to lose, and no empathy is a scary thing, and they're out there. Stick close to shore as it's not the sharks you have to worry about, it's the bottom feeders that get you should you venture to the wrong spot. I trusted the wrong guy and can say, it's an ugly scary spot down there. The psychopath is typical in the deep end. I'm conclusion be safe guys, odds are, this or anything like it won't happen to you, but if it does, I've given my advice and feel free to reach out for support.
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Post by patsbox7 on Apr 12, 2016 7:36:38 GMT -6
What to do should you find yourself involved with one? Well first is to confirm it. NPD, or Narcissistic Personality Disorder, has many of the same traits, but can go away should the individual choose. So be sure you are in fact dealing with one. Secondly, you should distance yourself, A LOT. The idea here is to not be an easy target so they will move on to the next. If you didn't do so early on, and find yourself being exploited, extorted, abused etc. contact the authorities immediately. Personally, one of these yahoos found out where I lived after they stole my vehicle. I basically made it as difficult as I could for them to collect their perceived reward. The police are swamped and under staffed/ budgeted in my city, and due to a Russian mob car theft ring, all they can do for a stolen car is put it on the hotlist and hope it turns up. In my twisted story, the lead gangster (not affiliated with the mob, just your run of the mill bad guy) contacted me by phone. First thing I did was let him know he was in control. He informed me that he had my address, and if I contact law enforcement, they will come after my family, and me. (This is all true and happened three months ago btw) Of course, NEVER fall for that trap. Many if not most of these guys have been hemmed up in the system at some point. They don't like it. They are surrounded by their own kind and many become victims themselves. Anyways, I lied and said I wouldn't contact the cops, and would await further instruction. I acted terrified which gave him even more of a power high. This happened on a Wed. he said he would call back Friday. Friday evening he did. He asked if the car was insured, which I confirmed, and asked what my deductible was. I told him, and he said he would return the car for that amount. At this point I had done all my part on reporting and updating the police and insurance on the whole situation. My big concern at this point was getting my wife's spare key, my mail key, and house keys which were all on the ring he got ahold of.
Friday evening rolls around and I walk down the road from my house to the agreed meeting spot. Sure enough my car rolls by, but I knew it wasn't going to be this simple. With extortion, it doesn't just end and go away. If they find a victim, they will leech until they're dry. He calls, directs me here... Calls again, directs me there... Goes on for an hour.
Meanwhile, no police show up as promised as they were either busy with emergencies or just didn't care.
Fifth place he tells me to meet him, low and behold, the guy who stole my car is face to face with me. The car of course is nowhere to be seen. He asks for the money, and here's where I flip the script. I show him $100 bill, and day I want my other keys as a sign of good faith. Tries to pull the old, okay give me the $$and I'll grab it, nah nah nah. Need those and here's $100 for your meth habit buddy. (VERY obviously major tweakers) Well, he runs off, grabs my keys, we make the exchange, and of course he calls and gives me an excuse about how he thought it was a setup (which it was SUPPOSED to be, thanks guys) and took off out of fear.
Well I call "My City's" finest first thing Sat. morn. The lady informs me she's sending a unit to speak with me because something isn't right in the system. Deputy shows up, has me run my story again, and he informs me he pulled my STOLEN REPORTED car over at 7a, and let it go because they dropped my name and said they were borrowing it.
UNREAL
Not only had the original responding officer not taken a report, I had been on the phone with these guys over ten times about this and it never even made it on the hot sheet.
I asked the officer's advice on what to do as they have my address. He said he wouldn't be too concerned with the threats of violence, but to change my locks as they most likely copied my house key, and wouldn't put it past them to burglerize me.
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Post by patsbox7 on Apr 12, 2016 6:16:26 GMT -6
Disclaimer : I am not a psychologist, psychiatrist, or hold any formal degree. Due to having kids young, I did not finish up. However, I did take a liking to it, especially abnormal psychology. Here is a brief writeup about one of those disorders considered abnormal. Mods, go ahead and move this if the topic is a stretch They are, however, an unexplained phenomenon... Here are some red flags when dealing with someone with possible "Antisocial Personality Disorder", as they are now classified. No, this doesn't mean shy quet people, this is someone who completely lacks all empathy for their fellow human being, and views them as nothing more than a consumable throw away item. - Extreme charm and charisma, to the point where it's hypnotic. Although completely superficial, they will mirror your hopes, dreams and ideals to develop extreme rapport, that is strictly to reel you into their plot. - Constantly eliciting sympathy - Highly manipulative, and will commonly persuade you by making you think an idea they want you to have was yours. (This is manipulation 101, and VERY powerful.) Luckily only the highly intelligent ones have this trick mastered. - Tend to pick victims that are submissive, and trusting. If you feel one of your friends may be prey, feel free to consult me on strategies to rid them. These people aren't usually the mass murderers and serial killers you hear about on TV, and the movies. They typically will be feeding off victims financially and ESPECIALLY emotionally. They love nothing more than to have someone fall madly in love with them, only to destroy them by cold sholdering, brutally breaking up with them if they have no more to gain, and will surround themselves with anybody who will shower them with admiration. Remember, they sincerely believe they are above everyone in every way, and some genuinely believe they are not human. If you've ever listened to Lil Wayne, he either is a typical psychopath, or is portraying one to sell albums. Back to the tells, - Pathological liers, and will frequently contradict themselves. This depends on intelligence level as well, as smart ones keep note of every lie they have going with each individual. - Projects a tough yet innocent persona. This is very attractive to many women. Think black leather jacket with boyish charm and innocents. - Will not accept responsibility, and will always twist the blame. If there is one thing you remember from this list, this should be it. - They love to drop hints of their true nature. After they feel they have duped their victim, they may say things such as, "The devil always appears as the savior." or, "aliens are said to inhabit chosen ones.". Of course it will be in glib tonality, but they really mean it. - When speaking and writing will use "I" and "Me" 80-90% more than people without this disorder. - Loves to hurt feelings by embarrassing, and humilating people in private and public. - Feels little to no emotion, but revolves around rage when they do become emotional, even that is short lived though. - Body language will always express superiority. If you are psychologically savvy, the main thing to remember is they will not appear congruent. Something will just seem off, and that right there my friends should tell you to RUN not walk away from that individual. In conclusion, even seasoned PhD Psychiatrists will admit to being duped by these cunning sick individuals. Many have IQs surpassing the 120-130s, which is a recipe for disaster. Suspect a loved one may be one? The only treatment so far that has yielded any sort of results is practicing empathy, and although you will not be able to change their grandiose attitude and sense of superiority, it is possible to help them practice empathy, and view others as more than something to exploit, be it artificial and against their nature.
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Post by patsbox7 on Apr 12, 2016 5:46:15 GMT -6
Thank you guys so much for the positive feedback.
JC, my dad grew up in LA, and is good friends with Cliff de Young. Not a household name by any means, but is on a first name basis with Reese Witherspoon, and was in her recent movie, Wild.
You brought up his biggest point when we told him her dream was to be on TV, was ensure SHE wants to. He was so encouraging and made it very clear it really isn't a pie in the sky, pipe dream. Just like with any other sport or trade, some people have natural talent that makes it easier for them to succeed, but the key is a humble attitude, hard work and moving from the bottom to the top just like anything else.
His advice is my motto, which is the ones that make it don't look at it as though they're born the best and entitled to success, rather they will outwork their competition to become the best. So true.
As far as keeping an eye out, having been in sales most of my adult life, I have unfortunately dealt with my fair share of real deal psychopaths, and can spot a wolf in sheeps clothing from a mile away. Two circumstances where I won't hesitate to kill is obviously if my family or my life is in immediate danger.
My schooling background is in psychology and law, and am a boarder line psychological profiler. I'm also 6ft 1"@ 220lbs, with a concealed weapons permit, which exudes an aura that literally has sociopaths and psychopaths avoid me at all cost.
Anyone that has experience in firearms knows the idea is to deescalate at all costs, always avoid confrontation, and only use a firearm as an absolute last resort. So I don't advertise that as, nobody better mess with me. However, just knowing I have it should sh** really hit the fan, and knowing how I react in life threatening situations, as I have been in two, definitely turns the volume down in situations where most would panic. People sense that in me, and appreciate it for the most part. I'm not a Veteran, however did have to get treatment for PTSD from one of those incidents. ( I highly recommend EMDR, even for other highly emotional events anyone may have been through our are going through. Cutting edge, and very effective treatment. ).
I am now happily the guy who let's the upset jerk cut me off, without even a slight grrrrr, ignores the threatening glare and flex from the roid head, walk away without feeling like a coward when physically confronted, slowly and without your back turned mind you and know I would be one of the guys you hear about in the news who kept his cool during a major event, and helped the panicked majority to safety. Butttt I digress as usual...
This in fact inspired me to write a little essay on "How to spot a psychopath / psychopathology 101" Post coming right up as I feel my little Internet family should be prepared on how to spot, deal, and avoid these guys.
Will keep you posted on my daughter's progress though. " Team Challenge Cup 2016" is in our city this year, and she was chosen for a post show routine. I'll be sure to post that, and also her skill level soon. Her dedicated mother / my amazing wife takes her twice a day minimum for one to three hour ice time sessions, and she is AMAZING. Obviously, I am very proud of her, but I think you guys would be proud of me and how humble she is about her talents and skills. I heard a self made billionaire answer what his biggest turn off in people is. His answer? EGO
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Post by patsbox7 on Apr 11, 2016 18:06:40 GMT -6
My daughter, as you guys may remember is a big time ice skater. She was noticed by a loca Riddell skate rep, and was just approached to do a photo shoot to be their poster child. Well, one thing lead to another and now she is being approached to audition for small roles, and commercials. You may see my little girl on TV here very soon. Just had to post this because I'm EXTATIC.
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Post by patsbox7 on Apr 5, 2016 23:38:04 GMT -6
Lol My generation just gets that stuff. Most anyways... A second language if you will.
I will say that i haven't ever found something that wasn't supposed to be there yet. When I had that idea, there was no contact of any kind going on. Annnnd there isn't any now, so I'm just going to keep it that way.
One of yall made a comment along the lines of bumping into something you weren't really supposed to, and backing away, seemed to work. I really don't feel like being a spider that wonders into an arachnid phobic house , ehh bad one How about the mouse that wonders into the lab, yeah that works. Hopefully the scientists just tagged and moved onto the unfortunate ones on the table, because I'm definitely not on the table anymore.
If I am, I have no memory, knowledge or evidence of such.
Geez, I'll quit now. Gnight guys
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Post by patsbox7 on Apr 5, 2016 4:57:09 GMT -6
Nothing anymore. I had my chapter in life dealing with whatever or whoever noticed I noticed them.
That chapter has concluded for the time being, and I go about my business while they go about theirs. If there will be more added down the road, I will let you all know. But for now, things have subsided back to normal, and I am happily enjoying the human experience without any paranormal interventions for the time being.
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Post by patsbox7 on Apr 5, 2016 4:03:41 GMT -6
Always look forward to your posts Swamp Keep em coming!
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Post by patsbox7 on Mar 28, 2016 23:26:09 GMT -6
Just like those genetically modified honey bees, that were supposed to be more docile and produce more honey? What happened with those "Africinized Honey Bees? Oh yeah, they are now called killer bees, and uhh yeah, kill people.
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Post by patsbox7 on Mar 28, 2016 23:19:53 GMT -6
I use these apps to identify possible UFOs. If it ain't showing up on your star chat via your GPS location, you've got a "potential" as I have come to call them.
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Post by patsbox7 on Mar 3, 2016 1:41:52 GMT -6
JK, Some of us are new to this, some have dealt with it for longer than I've been alive. Anyone who has more expierence with something, even as strange as this, will be wiser than the one who just went through it. A good example is how I instantly fell for their manipulation, and many of you warned me to take a second look. If I gave you credit as such, take it sincerely, because I'm a straight shooter. The truly enlightened people in my eyes would respond exactly as you would, and that just confirms my opinion that you are a highly intelligent, and logical person who has thoroughly analyzed what you have observed thus far. That, my friend, is an expert. Most experts realize they don't have all the answers, and are very quick to point that out. You my friend, may be a bit too sharp for your own good...
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Post by patsbox7 on Mar 3, 2016 1:33:31 GMT -6
Chickens pull the feathers out of one that might have been healthy (or maybe they knew something) but eventually that identified "strange chicken" dies one feather at a time. Humans are just nudged to the edge of the herd. "
- Exactly why I express everything on my mind here, and with one friend who is interested in the topic. You would NEVER think I was involved with, or engaged in the subject of UFOs. When it comes to the crowd you speak of, I generally either control it or just sit back and view it as entertainment. Just my personality type. I would definitely be accused of Icke of being a Lizard person if I was a public figure. Just a typical type A, aggressive person... When it comes to the idea of being nudged out of the herd, I am generally the one doing the nudging, and surround myself with betas who follow my lead. Sounds cruel, but if I'm doing so, it's for a good reason, as that person has a very serious personality disorder and needs to be removed from the pack. My position in work requires I command respect, and assert authority. I find compassion for people that have been harmed by insensitive and cruel people because of shyness, insecurities, or personality disorders that are not destructive. I have always taken them under my wing, and genuinely befriended them. I was the popular guy in school, who got the girls but still had time, and was not ashamed to be friends with the underdog...
It's a cold word out there, and unfortunately I have just developed defenses so that I am highly attractive socially. Probably sounds arrogent, and yeah, I am a bit, but you know what? I don't apologize for it, I just work on growing genuine humility, and I'm getting better at it.
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Post by patsbox7 on Mar 1, 2016 4:56:48 GMT -6
It's weird to re read this after the shock and awe factor has worn off. When it all started I was so excited and emotional about it all, they could have told me anything and I would have ran with it. I'm glad things are transpiring the way they are, because I am able to look at the situation from a much more neutral perspective. My personal facts and conclusions are -We are being visited by either extra terrestrial or hyperdimensional beings -They are far more technologically advanced than we are -There are over one million people who have had similar expierences to mine on this planet -Everyone who is truthful about expierencing what us fellow abductees have, really don't have any answers. It seems as though they personalize each encounter to suit the specific person they are interacting with, in order to push just the right buttons -They are invested in this planet somehow, and have an agenda of some sort -There are multiple species here, and just like when we invented the microscope and realized that there is a whole micro world interacting with us, in both positive and negative ways, I believe the same is happening on a larger level as well. We have just not advanced enough, as of yet, to pinpoint who or what is interacting with us at this higher level, and which ones are positive and which are negative. As they are much more advanced than us, the negative ones will most likely appear to be our allies
I sincerely believe things happen for a reason, and personally believe I was destined to be part of whatever this is since my first encounter as a child. The pieces of the puzzle just click together to well to be coincidence, from me stumbling on this forum, to starting the thread asking abductees questions, to having my own personal encounters. I am just glad it hasn't been as blunt and terrifying as most of the other expierences I have read are, or the memories have been blocked. I would prefer to keep it this way, and have subscribed to the neutral approach of balancing my life out much more.
I read a very good metaphor about that technique. Someone asked a guru how can they keep their life positive all the time. His response was perfect, life is like a pendulum. It sways back and forth, and the idea is to ride out the positive and when it sways negative, remember it will soon sway back, and just gravitate to the neutral to bring it the other way sooner. He did hint that you can tilt it, to where you have a mainly positive life expierence, but you will never be able to just stick it to one side for good. I like that concept, and ever since I have taken that approach, things have been much smoother. Some people have their pendulum tilted towards the negative, some have it way too far positive, and the ones who have it mastered realize that of you keep it centered, life will flow much better. Mine was definitely tilted to the negative, and just adjusting it neutral has really made things better. I am a pessimist by nature, but it's an ever evolving story for all of us, and I've said it before and I'll say it again, the day you have it all figured out is the day your life is over.
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Post by patsbox7 on Mar 1, 2016 3:38:31 GMT -6
Most recent expierence 02-27-16 Aprox 11-12a, and 2-3a
Out on the porch smoking before bed, and I heard the familiar whining of what I believe to be a UFO. Very high pitched and pretty much inaudible unless you are listening for it specifically. This sound had become regular in my life since this all started. I scan the sky to look for possible suspects... Nothing Well, as I exhaled a drag, I looked straight up, and sure enough, there is a probable UFO right above my head. Gaze at it for about five minutes, and observe it do the typical wobble which I assume to be the craft expierencing gravitational or magnetic turbulence. It does the usual slow movements, but this time I notice something different. A black speck in the dazzling bright light appears, and seems to look right at me. It's as if it turned on a zoom lens of some sort, or camera to take a better look. I got cold, so went back in, and retired for the night. I always try and communicate when I see one, but other than that one instance, never get a reply.
After I fall asleep, I enter into a hypnogogic state. It was lucid dream, and I thought I was awake, but was not. I remember being very hungry, and kept trying to go to the pantry to get something to eat, but after I reach the pantry would snap right back to my bed. A feeling of absolute terror then overtook me. I remember trying to scream, and wake anyone up in the house to make whatever it was go away. My flight sense was triggered at a full blown ten. I have never fealt this kind of fear either awake or in my dreams. Unable to awaken anyone, I then take on an out of body perspective, and observe two small Grays at my front windows, and a tall one with a black cape like suite, and some sort of headset in my bedroom window. Details get fuzzy from here, but I remember them painting a very warm and friendly memory of the ordeal. They were all literally smiling genuinely, and at one point I remember falling through a tunnel of them, all smiling and giving me high fives....
I fully wake up at 3a on the nose, was finally able to make it to the pantry to eat a snack, and went back on the porch to see if the thing was still there.
Same exact spot but lower, to the point where I could almost make out the disc shape and window lights.
Sigh... Weird weird weird stuff. If the light I saw was a star, it would have moved with the rest of the stars and planets, not stayed put for hours and hours. Logic tries to kick in, and make excuses, but it's far beyond the point of denying it. That all stopped when one flew right to to me in an Albertson's parking lot, in front of my family, and a crowd of stumped shoppers. I really don't know what I was thinking not to record that, because if I did it would have been AMAZING footage. My wife was just so fed up with all of it, I glanced at it , she said something along the lines of, looks like they're finally here to take you away, and we went about our evening. It really seems like they are about to just come out in the open here. It's getting ridiculous.
Hope everyone out there is doing well. I'm just doing my best to focus on life and not let this stuff consume me like it has in the past. JK, like you said, they love giving us contradicting info, and guess work, so I'm done guessing and until the facts come out, it's business as usual I guess...
Which appears to be work I enjoy by day, family by night, and some occasional supernatural expierences here and there.
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Post by patsbox7 on Feb 22, 2016 0:00:36 GMT -6
I vote all of our "rights" have been trampled, and we are brainwashed into thinking we live in a "democratic" state. Back in my early 20s, I was railroaded by the criminal injustice system, and my life was in shambles over some false allegations. My choices were, plead guilty to a charge I wasn't guilty of in exchange for a lesser sentence, or take my chances going to trial, and face major jail/ prison time. My paid lawyer advised me to take the deal, which I did, which spit me into a revenue generating machine which was a revolving door, with impossible hoops to jump through that sets you up for guaranteed failure, which in turn ruined me financially, emotionally, and mentally for four long years. I despise our system, and anyone who has personally gone through it, or has family that has, knows what a nasty, slimy, unforgiving and terrible system it really is. I now have a lawyer on speed dial who is an ex-prosecutor, married to a judge for any incident that may arise. My advice is remember your fifth amendment, and USE it. I was niave enough to think that the police were logical and unbiased people, and had to learn the hard way they are trained to be deceptive, and their only job is to create court cases, and generate revenue. I am just as mad as you sky, and like you, don't fear them one bit, but despise what they have done to our country. The founding Fathers are rolling in their graves right now at the travesty our once free and beautiful country has become!
Oh, and PS, I am a white, upper middle class person who could afford a paid lawyer, I can't imagine what the outcome would've been had I been a minority race living in poverty with no resources to fight the beast. It is truly an unfair, DISGUSTING game, and it is always a lose lose should you find yourself sucked into it. They find it amusing to see how far they can bring you down, and view you as less of a human than the Grays do. I would take a nasty abduction from those jerks than a round in criminal court any day.
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Post by patsbox7 on Feb 19, 2016 15:03:56 GMT -6
That's exactly what it was. Simply trying to make me feel special and chosen to make me a better subject. They have been fired. Used various techniques found on the web to rid them. These drone things seem to be different though. Not the same demenor. I will say though, it was a great tactic, they had me going for a while there... Well as they say, fool me once shame on you, they won't be fooling me twice though, as they have been gone for a while now. I have taken three steps back to take two forward on this one, thoroughly analyzed what went down, and can guarantee that they were service to self entites, very manipulative, and most likely just looking for another test subject that would comply with their agenda. So the typical Grays seem to be away now, but as for these drone things, yeah they are here, not really doing anything so back to my little worldy life for now. Until the veil is lifted here, it's anyone's guess as to what's really going on here. Every website and forum online has it's own hypothesis as to who is who, and why they are here, they all contradict each other, and although there are similarities that seem to hold true, it's mostly just opinions and misinformation IMO when someone claims to have the answers. So alas, it's back to square one, where my answer is, I have no freakin clue.
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Post by patsbox7 on Feb 19, 2016 15:01:16 GMT -6
I'm tempted to send him like five bucks just for the story. Talk about a fifty pound fish, this takes the cake for sure.
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Post by patsbox7 on Feb 15, 2016 22:34:45 GMT -6
Further more I use those encryption apps and methods to protect my customers private info. Not to plot anything, or get away with illegal activities.
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Post by patsbox7 on Feb 15, 2016 22:32:51 GMT -6
I my line of work, I have to store VERY sensitive customer info on all of my devices. SS#s, CCs etc. You would be surprised what someone can dig out of your hard drive. Every bought anything online? A savvy enough hacker can grab all the information from any of those transactions, even if you think it was all deleted and gone. You would be shocked what someone with the right skillset, and wrong motives can and will dig up from your hard drive, phone, tablet, you name it. So I would think twice before you jump to the conclusion that grandma's famous meatloaf recipe is all they would be able to access.
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Post by patsbox7 on Feb 13, 2016 23:56:50 GMT -6
Anything that they care about is encrypted. All data that was "hacked" would've been run of the mill crap they couldn't care less about. These people aren't idiots, and when it comes to sensitive data, are well ahead of the curve when it comes to protection. I highly suggest anyone on here do the same for any sensitive data that y'all may have. For computers, simply Google, "How to encrypt " X" OS hardrive, IE Windows 7etc." Smartphones, Google for Windows or iPhone, I have no first hand knowledge on those. For Android, tap "settings", " security ", and " Encrypt phone". This will make your phone completely unhakable. The experts here will agree, as there is simply no way to decode anything that is encrypted. Only the person who has encrypted the device or data holds the key, as each individual encryption is a foreign code only accessible to whom and whoever holds the key, which will be your password. Now, for communication via phone calls and text messages, the best app, Android again I don't use Windows or iPhone, is Signal- play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.thoughtcrime.securesmsWhen the Patriot Act was passed, any and all calls and text messages are subject to interception, and recording. This very app is used by our very own politicians for text messages and calls that are confidential. You're welcome.
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Post by patsbox7 on Feb 13, 2016 18:53:23 GMT -6
Centuries ago? Would've been exactly one century last year that General Relativity was theorized... :S Did I get trapped in one of those dang time loops again. God, those pesky black holes. And I swear, if was the Berenstein bears, I don't care WHAT they say, it WAS NOT the BerenSTAIN bears. Wtf is going on here??!!
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Post by patsbox7 on Feb 13, 2016 17:00:53 GMT -6
My dad had a very "minor" stroke last year, if you can call such a thing minor. Turned out yes, it was in fact a stroke, but the good news was he just needed a minor adjustment in his medication regimine to ensure no more future episodes. Let's hope this turns out to be the same deal. It is scary to say the least when things that this happen. It really puts things into prospective, as in how fragile life is, and how fast the flame can be snuffed out. Let's hope there is a waiting room out there where we will all meet again before we decide to go on to the next adventure, or life as we call it here on our planet. When I had that communication expierence, obviously you don't get a chance like that every day, but I went straight for the big questions. I ask, well projected rather, what happens when we die? Is it just a dreamless sleep? The answer I received obviously wasn't a voice in my head, but an epiphany. Basically, it was implied that the "void" IE- dreamless sleep revolves around consciousness and is important in some way while we are here. When we leave, we return to a higher level of consciousness, that we originated from, where the void is revealed for what it is, which we won't know until we pass. We then get to briefly mingle with our fellow soals, that we knew and loved on earth, yes including our beloved pets, and then create a reality much like a lucid dream for a while, before being sent to another spiritual testing zone, IE life where we grow further, and the cycle continues. This is the best translation I can create in words, but as you all know, the ones who have had communication anyways, these things don't enter your thoughts in words, but concepts rather.
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Post by patsbox7 on Feb 13, 2016 15:51:54 GMT -6
Lois, Even though I don't know you personally, I totally feel like you guys are a forum family, and have really taken a liking to you guys. But I digress. I have a different view on "god" and spirituality than most. I believe in the law of attraction, so am projecting positive outcomes out to the universe for you. Please hang in there! Good things can and do happen. I was carjacked last week and gunpoint, and they not only found the guy and charged him with everything under the sun, but also recovered my vehicle with NO damage. So not trying to bring my personal issues into this thread, but wanted to point out that things can turn around for the better VERY quick.
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Post by patsbox7 on Feb 13, 2016 13:07:29 GMT -6
Just now seeing this. Please hang in there. Positive thoughts going your way.
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Post by patsbox7 on Feb 13, 2016 13:02:46 GMT -6
Back in the day, yeah I'm only 31, but I was 18 and had it all figured out. I was looking for a job and was hired on as a secrete shopper. I was sent $800.00 via postal money order. This check looked totally legit, and I was instructed to cash it at my bank, and keep $250.00 and send the remaining via Western Union to somebody overseas. Luckily I didn't fall for it, and decided to wait to see if it cleared first. I was smart enough to know that it takes at least three days, and up to two weeks for the actual check to clear. Well it didn't, cash was returned, and all parties involved were reported to the police. Nasty people out there, be careful.
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Post by patsbox7 on Feb 11, 2016 21:06:44 GMT -6
Please include swift and acct# so I can send funds immediately! I am assuming he was Nigerian? They always get suckered into these messes! Oh. Wait, he wants is via Western Union huh? Dang, don't have one near my base.
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